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Re: Looking for the full email exchange...
« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2008, 10:08:53 AM »
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Pardon the stupid question, but the notes page for Podcast #51 appears to have only one message from the email exchange between you and Neal Adams.  Is the full exchange posted somewhere?  Can't seem to find a link to it.

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I can't find it either.
I remember seeing it ages ago though.
Anyone got a link for a lazy git ?
Time for another look before I decide I've gone bananas.
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« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2008, 10:27:11 AM »
http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php?m=200712

Dr. Novella has them on his blog at the above link.
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« Reply #77 on: January 22, 2008, 04:49:45 AM »
I do support a possibility of a growing earth. Only, I have some alternate ideas/theory’s.

On the side of Neal, his video looked nice, although I would like to see this model with more detail like this one http://www.scotese.com/pacifanim.htm .

The Earth and Moon are filled with hydrogen. – Why do I find this hard to believe with only a little bit of science background and common sense? Is hydrogen not less dense than any other element? Would it not constantly vent to the surface?  In hindsight lets drill into the earth and have our unlimited supply of fuel..

Now, on how this growing Earth could in fact work…
Pholt said you need “1200 cubic miles of matter annually” to support the expansion process. How about 1200 cubic miles of volume? We all know volume is different from mass. So how do we get this volume? Heat.   To be more specific, the mass the Earth collects as it orbits the Sun and travels though the universe.  Not, 1200mi^3, but enough to increase pressure on the earth’s core thus heating it up and expanding.   Can anyone back this up?

Now this raises some new questions???
What triggered a rapid new spread 200mil years ago?
At what rate does material heat up and expand due to pressure?
What amount of mass is needed to create this much pressure?

Subduction – Neal says “there is no subduction” Why not?
I find myself looking at the Age of the Ocean map http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/image/crustageposter.gif
Where does that fracture go into Sumatra? Why does it seem that the Aleutian Islands are growing over the pacific?
From my point of view, this could either be subduction or it is volcanic activity covering up old sea floor as in Iceland.

Pangea – 245m.y. ago. This bring me to this page http://www.nationalatlas.gov/articles/geology/legend/ages/quaternary.html
Why does it imply the most of the rocks on west coast Mexico, and some of the east coast only date back 1.8 million years? Why are these areas included in the Pangea diagrams http://www.columbia.edu/~vjd1/pangea_245.gif ?

Oh, and again on the animation of Pangea in http://www.scotese.com/pacifanim.htm showing the pacific plate. Does this not look ugly? And what caused the breakup of the super continent?

That is all for now… When I think of more Ill let you know. Also, Check out my Google Earth File http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=EarthNature&Number=1095750

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« Reply #78 on: January 22, 2008, 04:52:26 AM »
oh goodness... where to begin...
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« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2008, 07:41:44 AM »
It's CO2. WE have put CO2 in the air and now that is heating up the earth. Because of this increase in temperature the earth is expanding. because the earth expands it collects more space dust on its trip through the galaxy and this dust makes the earth heavier. The growing earth.
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Re: Podcast #51
« Reply #80 on: July 26, 2011, 02:12:42 PM »
Neal's comments are a perfect illustration of the old saw that "Those who refuse to do the math are doomed to talk nonsense."
 
If you can't do the math, at least trust the scientific consensus of those who do.

On the other hand if this type of BS gets people interested in actually learning about the real science which refutes Neal, it is all good.  At least he's not postulating an infinite pile of turtles holding up the earth! ... or the even more absurd idea of a divine, jealous, genocidal, nasty, heavenly dictator calling the shots and demanding of us to kill abortion doctors and/or other infidels.  :)

Basically, he seems to advocate that cartoon physics rules the universe.  :)

I'm going through all the SGU podcasts on iTunes and am listening to #51 now.  Very interesting stuff.  Steven is doing a great job of keeping it all reality based.
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