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Offline Evan

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SGU 5x5 #47
« on: November 26, 2008, 10:13:10 PM »
Podcast #47  -  Remote Viewing

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Re: SGU 5x5 #47
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2008, 08:11:43 PM »
Regarding the first email: that bowing to the so-called "consensus" of scientists regarding anthropogenic global warming amounts to the Argument from Authority fallacy. Steve's defense seems to be that is the Authority is  sufficiently numerous and/or authoritative, then fallacy becomes fact. I have several problems with this position, and not because I deny that global warming exists, but I take issue with how it is portrayed to the public.
For instance, there are quite a few scientists who take issue with the most recent report of the IPCC (which excludes the famous "hockey stick" global temperature graph featured so prominently in Al Gore's movie), thus this "consensus" is neither as unanimous as the public is led to believe. Also there is the Ad Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc fallacy (the famous ice core samples show that CO2 increased AFTER global temperatures did, not before). Add this to the now-discredited "hockey stick" graph supposedly showing a dramatic spike in temperatures in recent years -- belatedly withdrawn by the IPCC -- and the fact that past IPCC predictions of actual temperatures have been consistently wrong (on the high end, of course) and you can see that the Authority is not so authoritative, either.
But more important is the fundamental principle of skepticism, which on the GW issue in particular the ever-querulous Perry is all the more missed. It is sad that even a group of so-called skeptics treat the received wisdom of global warming as axiomatic and anyone who questions it as idiots. Or to quote Jay: "So the consensus here is this guy's a jerk."

Jack Moore
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some links you may find innaresting:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthcomment/charlesclover/3341068/Global-warming-may-%27stop%27%2C-scientists-predict.html

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Evans-CO2DoesNotCauseGW.pdf

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/01/checking_the_ipcc_global_tempe_1.html
Objectivity is sacrificed in the service of higher goals.
-- C. Sagan, "The Demon-Haunted World"

 

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