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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #330 on: March 15, 2016, 07:39:29 AM »
Has anyone considered adding a Cara Santa Maria emoji ?

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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #331 on: March 30, 2016, 07:07:43 PM »
When viewing my posts liked by others, I'd like to be able to list them by number of likes.
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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #332 on: April 10, 2016, 02:39:50 PM »
Has anyone considered adding a Cara Santa Maria emoji ?

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Good point. We'll have to commission Henning for the project.

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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #333 on: February 04, 2017, 07:54:27 PM »
Is there an add on or plug in for the forums that can handle tabular data better.  Normally I wouldn't be assed, but this is a board to promote sciency stuff.  We need our tables maaaaaan.

I like how ISF does it (not sure if you can see this post)

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11702650&postcount=938

Here are three Mods from the SM site.  I have no idea how they look tho.  I can't see any of the screenshots.   >:(

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3642
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=204
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=40   -THIS ONE IS SORTABLE, AND ACCEPTS CSV DATA!

This one looks very promising:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=298647.0

This looks powerful, but clunky, like your mom   >:D :

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=379283.0


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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #334 on: February 04, 2017, 10:37:48 PM »
Do any of them appear to be maintained?  Meaning, they've been updated sometime within the last 6 months?
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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #335 on: February 05, 2017, 12:27:07 AM »
OH GWAD I DOEN KAER! Bettter tables!
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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #336 on: February 05, 2017, 08:57:02 AM »
The only one that seems maintained is the last, which adds CSS-style style tags to some BBC code elements.  I'm not sure how many people are going to be able to use it.  Also, it doesn't seem to be compatible with the latest point release.

PANTS!: What are you trying to accomplish? If you could offer a couple of examples it might help us evaluate the issue.
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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #337 on: February 05, 2017, 10:39:44 AM »
The only one that seems maintained is the last, which adds CSS-style style tags to some BBC code elements.  I'm not sure how many people are going to be able to use it.  Also, it doesn't seem to be compatible with the latest point release.

PANTS!: What are you trying to accomplish? If you could offer a couple of examples it might help us evaluate the issue.

CAVEAT: Sp far, this is just me talking here - but I think HighPockets has similar frustrations.  I can not say how he, or anyone else, would detail the exact issue however.  So y'all speak up!   :laugh:

There are two main problems I have with presenting tabular data right now.


  • It has limited formatting options (no borders, no formatting at the table level, Spacing issues, etc) which makes the data confusing
  • There are some hacks to work around, but they are very time intensive, error prone, confusing to implement, and still only marginally improve visual presentation of tabular data.
  • In general the edit options for tables is unworkable beyond 5 columns or 5 rows.  It gets way too cluttered and confusing and hard to track.

I really want a better way to visually present the data, a better way to post / edit the data, and maybe the ability to sort the data - if possible.  I mean, ideally, an excel (or similar spreadsheet) plug in would be the bee knees but I know that's a huge ask.  But if we could show graphs based off data.....  OK That's probably another topic.

I like the way ISF present their tables.  If you can, go to the link I supplied, as the data is sortable, but if you can't here are some images. Notice the second is sorted by player.





As far as the editor goes - on the IDF it is not the best option, but it is pipe delimited within the table tag, cutting down significantly on the tag clutter, and making editing the post at least possible, albeit still difficult.

That said, I am not wedded to the ISF solution - at all.  I am wide open on this, so long as the solution moves us towards meeting the two criteria laid out above. 

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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #338 on: February 05, 2017, 02:06:38 PM »
That looks interesting. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a similar plugin for SMF.  To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of SMF; but it has the benefit of being free whereas a VBulletin license runs about $300.
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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #339 on: February 06, 2017, 02:18:13 AM »
And changing forum architecture is not at all a trivial process.

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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #340 on: February 06, 2017, 11:35:57 AM »
And changing forum architecture is not at all a trivial process.

Indeed.  This is why we all live in anticipation of SMF 2.1 (now in its second beta), which promises to deliver responsive design using CSS3, a much-improved WYSIWYG editor, search that works, PMs using AJAX, and much more.  Unfortunately, changes to the theming engine will break all of our themes and many add-ins.  It will not be a normal point upgrade.
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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #341 on: February 06, 2017, 02:00:37 PM »
Yeah, everything Pants! said. Just a little more ability for formatting would go a long way. Now after doing the forumvision for a while now, I've managed to get the steps down to a reasonable number of cutting, pasting, converting, text editing, copying  and pasting again.
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Re: Forum (sguforums.com) Change suggestions
« Reply #342 on: February 06, 2017, 02:09:52 PM »
I like the looks of Table from CSV; unfortunately, it has not been updated in 10 years and is not compatible with SMF 2.x.  The only one there that seems to be regularly maintained is BBCode with Style, which will not make tables simpler to construct but would give more flexibility in formatting them.
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