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Re: Bill Nye & Activeion
« Reply #135 on: May 09, 2010, 03:57:34 AM »
Up until now I would have said yes, it does have a smell.  Usually associated with a problem.

But now, I am going to have to go check.  Damn skeptics, they get you questioning EVERYTHING!

Do they?
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« Reply #136 on: May 09, 2010, 04:01:45 AM »
OK maybe that's just me.
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« Reply #137 on: May 09, 2010, 06:24:19 AM »
Does ozone have a distinct smell? Because I remember someone telling me that many electronics give off ozone, which accounts for that distinctive smell. I never checked if it is true or not. Anyone know?

Ever  notice that odor you get sometimes right before a thunderstorm.  That's ozone.
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« Reply #138 on: May 09, 2010, 12:40:20 PM »
Ive heard excess ozone is a health hazard which is why ozone air purifiers arnt the best...?
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Re: Bill Nye & Activeion
« Reply #139 on: May 09, 2010, 02:28:55 PM »
Ive heard excess ozone is a health hazard which is why ozone air purifiers arnt the best...?

it certainly is.

bad for asthma sufferers and may even help form atherosclerosis
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« Reply #140 on: May 09, 2010, 03:12:58 PM »
Ive heard excess ozone is a health hazard which is why ozone air purifiers arnt the best...?

thunderstorms and asthma.
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Re: Bill Nye & Activeion
« Reply #141 on: May 10, 2010, 01:44:51 AM »
Ozone: yet another chemical of dual nature. It keeps us alive but can kill us just as easily.

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« Reply #142 on: May 10, 2010, 08:47:41 AM »
OK, at least it is not all marketing hype, and I should retract my criticism of Bill Nye, he apparently has looked into it. Here is a random scientific paper about nanobubbles used for cleaning: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp805143c

Interesting. Although it remains to be seen if this product actually generates nanobubbles.
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Re: Bill Nye & Activeion
« Reply #143 on: May 12, 2010, 03:58:23 PM »
I noticed Bill posted up his test but hasn't yet answered questions about:

1) why didn't he use a control group of the water before he ran it through the interocitor.

2) whether or not he used tap water or distilled water

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« Reply #144 on: September 06, 2010, 04:00:01 PM »
So has there been any more tests or more information coming out about this product...I still dont know if its bullshit
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« Reply #145 on: September 06, 2010, 10:19:23 PM »
Research is needed.   But it's hard to imagine Bill selling out science for a bit of cash.
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« Reply #146 on: September 06, 2010, 11:42:12 PM »
Does ozone have a distinct smell? Because I remember someone telling me that many electronics give off ozone, which accounts for that distinctive smell. I never checked if it is true or not. Anyone know?

I was told that that acrid smell given off by slot car tracks is ozone being created by the engines. I've smelt the same thing near high voltage devices like small lightning generators at science shows.

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Ozone may be formed from O2 by electrical discharges and by action of high energy electromagnetic radiation. Certain electrical equipment generate significant levels of ozone. This is especially true of devices using high voltages, such as ionic air purifiers, laser printers, photocopiers, tasers and arc welders. Electric motors using brushes can generate ozone from repeated sparking inside the unit.

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Re: Bill Nye & Activeion
« Reply #147 on: September 07, 2010, 08:24:58 AM »
Research is needed.   But it's hard to imagine Bill selling out science for a bit of cash.

True. But then it's not hard to believe even smart people can be fooled by somethings. For example, his own test of the device seemed to lack a control. Who did he think he was going to convince?
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Re: Bill Nye & Activeion
« Reply #148 on: September 07, 2010, 09:08:34 AM »
Research is needed.   But it's hard to imagine Bill selling out science for a bit of cash.

True. But then it's not hard to believe even smart people can be fooled by somethings. For example, his own test of the device seemed to lack a control. Who did he think he was going to convince?

Anyone who believes in:
homeopathy
acupuncture
"healing touch"
faith healers
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psychic surgeons
ghosts
poltergeists
the idea that UFO == visitors from another planet

or anything else that relies upon "evidence" that's shoddy and "testing" that lacks any kind of a control. In other words, his target demographic is frigging HUGE!

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Re: Bill Nye & Activeion
« Reply #149 on: September 07, 2010, 09:52:16 AM »
Does ozone have a distinct smell? Because I remember someone telling me that many electronics give off ozone, which accounts for that distinctive smell. I never checked if it is true or not. Anyone know?

Ever  notice that odor you get sometimes right before a thunderstorm.  That's ozone.

I have always heard that but I get that same smell when I am spraying the hose.
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