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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2010, 11:31:12 PM »
Bob loves Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.  I live about a mile from the Reese's factory.  I'd be happy to hook him up.  (I don't work for Hershey. But I'll do it out of hometown pride.) 

I thought the best part of this week's episode was the cult discussion.  I know the Rogues have discussed cults before, but this time seemed particularly pithy. 


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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2010, 11:39:34 PM »
I was an editor in 1986 in Richmond Va. and had close to 100 people called over the course of a week. Hardly a single person had seen Halley's Comet, nor even tried. Granted, we were in a semi-urban locale and it took pretty high-powered telescopes to see but still ... depressing. The headline I still remember writing: "Cometose."
One bonus, though, was speaking to a lady who'd seen the 1910 comet.
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2010, 12:49:45 AM »
Audible sponsors a lot of podcasts.  If audible ever went out of business, it probably wouldn't be the end of podcasting, but it definitely would be kind of uncool.

Someone with initiative should start brokering ad spots on podcasts. 

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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2010, 02:20:25 AM »
"I was an editor in 1986 in Richmond Va. and had close to 100 people called over the course of a week. Hardly a single person had seen Halley's Comet, nor even tried. Granted, we were in a semi-urban locale and it took pretty high-powered telescopes to see but still ... depressing. The headline I still remember writing: "Cometose."
One bonus, though, was speaking to a lady who'd seen the 1910 comet".

Sounds as though there are advantages to living in the Southern Hemisphere.  Also, most of the year Andromeda Galaxy is not visible in the Southern Hemisphere (or at least not at 32 degrees south, except for a few weeks).  I saw it this year for the first time.
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2010, 02:47:34 AM »
The distinction between a cult and a religion is a false and misleading one, IMHO.
Steve concentrates on tactics employed by a cult to propagate itself and implies, i think, that more mainstream religions compare favourably as a result.
I think this is untrue. Religions all indoctrinate children, all religions do, many overtly.  They all have leaders, of varying degrees of remoteness and charisma.  They all 'love bomb' the needy and the vulnerable.  They frequently have sacred texts that are interpreted by those higher up the pecking order.  They are frequently secretive, and have shielded objectives and knowledge.  This is a purpose of theology.  They thrive where ignorance holds sway.  They are frequently, systematically, difficult to leave.
So I find it difficult to agree with Steve on the notion that some religious groups operate as cults, and others not.  It is a spectrum, and magical thinking needs certain easily recognisable techniques to propagate itself.
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2010, 02:56:27 AM »
The distinction between a cult and a religion is...

...size!


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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2010, 04:39:53 AM »
As a spectacle, Halley's comet was a non-starter in the UK at least, but TV coverage of the Giotto probe was good.

For the amazing comet sight of a lifetime at this latitude, I don't think Hale-Bopp will be bettered.
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2010, 05:40:47 AM »
mwilley, sounds like you're saying any culture itself is a cult.
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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2010, 07:01:42 AM »
I like George Hrab's answer to what is the difference between a cult and a religion - "size and real estate".
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2010, 07:11:43 AM »
mwilley, sounds like you're saying any culture itself is a cult.
Well it shouldn't sound like that.  Any systematic attempt to make people believe or act in some way that circumvents their own free choices and their own enquiry will require some form of cult like behaviour.
I didn't mention culture.
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2010, 07:13:04 AM »
I like George Hrab's answer to what is the difference between a cult and a religion - "size and real estate".
:D Perfect.
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2010, 01:13:51 PM »
As a spectacle, Halley's comet was a non-starter in the UK at least, but TV coverage of the Giotto probe was good.

For the amazing comet sight of a lifetime at this latitude, I don't think Hale-Bopp will be bettered.

There was a night where you could see HB and a lunar eclipse in the same sky in North America.  That was good fun.

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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2010, 01:28:22 PM »
As a spectacle, Halley's comet was a non-starter in the UK at least, but TV coverage of the Giotto probe was good.

For the amazing comet sight of a lifetime at this latitude, I don't think Hale-Bopp will be bettered.

There was a night where you could see HB and a lunar eclipse in the same sky in North America.  That was good fun.


Still remember standing by the side of the road near my school (Although I was probably driving home from work, and seeing HB over a hay field near pretty heavy light pollution. That thing was crazy great!
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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2010, 02:31:46 PM »
WTN is definitely Michael Savage, the meanest and nastiest guy to ever have a call-in radio show.  I don't understand why he takes calls, because he doesn't seem to want to talk to anybody that calls in.  If you agree with what he says, he's mean.  If you don't agree, he's slightly less mean.

EDIT: Er, I got that backwards.  If you don't agree, he's mean.  If you do agree, he's slightly less mean.

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Re: Episode #253
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2010, 02:37:12 PM »
WTN is definitely Michael Savage, the meanest and nastiest guy to ever have a call-in radio show.  I don't understand why he takes calls, because he doesn't seem to want to talk to anybody that calls in.  If you agree with what he says, he's mean.  If you don't agree, he's slightly less mean.

i've listened to him a few times but he's not on up here anymore. you are right. i just suspend disbelief and pretend he's some sleazy graphic novel character. it's a schtick and he does it really well(?).
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