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Re: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast 162: Geocentrism, Take 2
« Reply #780 on: July 11, 2017, 12:46:57 AM »
Hey Stuart, I have a memory of hearing about this and maybe it was you or maybe you know where to look
 After reading a person rail against NASA for owning patents and about data held by NASA.
 I seem to remember you mentioning something about this, though mostly on the data that are retrieved.
 Something like there's a month delay, but otherwise all data retrieved from missions are uploaded and open to the public, right?

 
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« Reply #781 on: July 11, 2017, 12:48:51 AM »
Hey Stuart, I have a memory of hearing about this and maybe it was you or maybe you know where to look
 After reading a person rail against NASA for owning patents and about data held by NASA.
 I seem to remember you mentioning something about this, though mostly on the data that are retrieved.
 Something like there's a month delay, but otherwise all data retrieved from missions are uploaded and open to the public, right?
Wow, someone looks at this thread ....

Most contracts for missions with NASA require public release after a 6-month proprietary period, though missions will often negotiate something closer to 1 year near the beginning of the mission.  Additionally, a new requirement for ANY planetary science grant (the "little" people grants, like to me) require a Data Management Plan which requires public release of all significant data produced from the grant.

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Re: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast 162: Geocentrism, Take 2
« Reply #782 on: July 11, 2017, 12:57:25 AM »
Hey Stuart, I have a memory of hearing about this and maybe it was you or maybe you know where to look
 After reading a person rail against NASA for owning patents and about data held by NASA.
 I seem to remember you mentioning something about this, though mostly on the data that are retrieved.
 Something like there's a month delay, but otherwise all data retrieved from missions are uploaded and open to the public, right?
Wow, someone looks at this thread ....

Most contracts for missions with NASA require public release after a 6-month proprietary period, though missions will often negotiate something closer to 1 year near the beginning of the mission.  Additionally, a new requirement for ANY planetary science grant (the "little" people grants, like to me) require a Data Management Plan which requires public release of all significant data produced from the grant.
I always check it out, but well most of my astronomy knowledge comes from the podcast so I don't even know enough to ask questions.

 I can see a woo woo pouncing on the significant data statement, but so in large part most all data is released to the public then after a certain time period.
 For instance, with the Curiosity rover I know there's archives of raw data on NASA's site. But is that full data or selected samples? And would I be able to view it on the web?
 And if it'd be easier to direct me to the episode, that's great. I know you covered some of this but I can't find the episode.

 On the nature of patents, I sort of agree with the fellow on the idea that as a publicly funded institution patents shouldn't belong to NASA but...

 Eh, if you want I can link to the post. I'm a bit out of it these days and may not be explaining it clearly.
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Re: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast 162: Geocentrism, Take 2
« Reply #783 on: July 11, 2017, 12:59:23 AM »
All planetary science data:  https://pds.nasa.gov  All of it.

Other disciplines have their own archives, I don't know what they are because I don't use that data.

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Re: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast 162: Geocentrism, Take 2
« Reply #784 on: July 11, 2017, 01:11:57 AM »
All planetary science data:  https://pds.nasa.gov  All of it.

Other disciplines have their own archives, I don't know what they are because I don't use that data.
Damn. Wow.
 Sorry, I feel I should and probably do know that site existed but just bringing it up made me feel funny things.

 Is there a resource that would help me understand the NASA patent issue this guy have? Might just be a crazy governmnet is evil type, but I found myself interested.

 And please don't think I'm JAQing off.
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Re: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast 162: Geocentrism, Take 2
« Reply #785 on: July 11, 2017, 01:29:55 AM »
All planetary science data:  https://pds.nasa.gov  All of it.

Other disciplines have their own archives, I don't know what they are because I don't use that data.
Damn. Wow.
 Sorry, I feel I should and probably do know that site existed but just bringing it up made me feel funny things.

 Is there a resource that would help me understand the NASA patent issue this guy have? Might just be a crazy governmnet is evil type, but I found myself interested.

 And please don't think I'm JAQing off.
On patents, I don't know.  I know one of the conspiracies promoted chiefly by Hoagland and Bara is that NASA is part of the DOD but in reality that only relates to any patents NASA may develop that they think may have military applications.  Otherwise, I would assume that NASA is like any other "company" where if a worker develops a patent, they can patent it in their name but the "comapny" gets the lion's share of all royalties.  As my dad says, "any patentable idea I may come up with, I'm going to hold until I retire."

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Re: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast 162: Geocentrism, Take 2
« Reply #786 on: July 11, 2017, 01:56:08 AM »
All planetary science data:  https://pds.nasa.gov  All of it.

Other disciplines have their own archives, I don't know what they are because I don't use that data.
Damn. Wow.
 Sorry, I feel I should and probably do know that site existed but just bringing it up made me feel funny things.

 Is there a resource that would help me understand the NASA patent issue this guy have? Might just be a crazy governmnet is evil type, but I found myself interested.

 And please don't think I'm JAQing off.
On patents, I don't know.  I know one of the conspiracies promoted chiefly by Hoagland and Bara is that NASA is part of the DOD but in reality that only relates to any patents NASA may develop that they think may have military applications.  Otherwise, I would assume that NASA is like any other "company" where if a worker develops a patent, they can patent it in their name but the "comapny" gets the lion's share of all royalties.  As my dad says, "any patentable idea I may come up with, I'm going to hold until I retire."
This person seems to have a huge hard right stance against the evils of government and socialism. Think the site is the best answer to give.
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