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Offline Beleth

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Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« on: October 21, 2011, 05:41:18 PM »
In honor of the end of the world today, I'm announcing a few tweaks to how things are going to be handled here.
These changes will become effective November 1, 2011.


1) The Global Warming child forum will change from being lightly moderated to being fully moderated.  It will remain members-only, but the tone there will be expected to match the tone of every other fully moderated board such as General or Skep/Sci.  What this means is that the level of bickering and spillover in GW now will simply not be acceptable after November 1.

1a) Politics and Explicit will remain lightly moderated.  There are no current plans to change these boards.


2) The way we are going to handle warnings is going to change.  Right now, a member has to get three warnings in fairly rapid succession before the forum software automatically puts them in Muted (suspended) or Moderated (all posts have to be reviewed by a mod before they show up) mode.  We are going to augment this significantly so that anyone who gets three warnings over a longer period will get suspended for a week.  The fourth warning will result in being placed in the "Needs Approval To Post" membergroup, which means that every post will have to be approved by a mod and that you won't have access to Global Warming, Politics, Personal, or Explicit, until we feel like removing you from that restriction.  The fifth warning will result in a ban.

The warning count will start retroactively as of September 1, 2011.  It will count up to a maximum of two warnings from September 1 to today, and count up to a maximum of two more warnings from today until October 31.  (In other words, you won't get retroactively suspended or banned.)  If you are trying to figure out how many more warnings you can get before something bad happens, stop; work instead on not getting any more warnings at all.
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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 06:54:02 PM »
What constitutes a warning?
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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 06:57:13 PM »
Getting a PM from a faceless account telling you that you have received a warning.
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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 07:21:21 PM »
I promise to do my best to make the new system work. :angel:
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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 08:28:08 PM »
Not to imply that I'm not entirely fine with these changes, but why?

Give Beleth a place to stand and he'd move the world.  But usually he'd need a damned good reason to go get his lever out of the trunk.

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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 09:21:14 PM »
This was an agreement between all the mods.  It took us several weeks to piece this together.

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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 09:29:08 PM »
Not to imply that I'm not entirely fine with these changes, but why?

Give Beleth a place to stand and he'd move the world.  But usually he'd need a damned good reason to go get his lever out of the trunk.

A fair enough question, and flattery on the side - how could I not answer this?   ;)

We've been getting a lot of constructive member criticisms about the nature of GW, so I looked into it.  The criticisms were valid.  In the almost two years GW has existed, it has drifted off course and turned even more ghetto-ey than I envisioned.  What's worse, it has started to drag the rest of the board down with it.  And it's a systemic problem, not tied down to any one member.  So I discussed what to do with the other mods, and we decided that these steps would be appropriate course corrections.

And as always, they're not set in stone.  If they are counterproductive or become unwieldy, we'll rescind them and try something else.
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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 10:52:33 PM »
Thanks Beleth, this sounds great!

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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 09:53:12 AM »
I don't go to the GW threads anyway.
It's just a bunch of childish bickering that I want no part of.

Easy solution - just stay out.
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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2011, 09:59:54 AM »
I don't go to the GW threads anyway.
It's just a bunch of childish bickering that I want no part of.

Easy solution - just stay out.

That is how I think a lot of members feel about it. It would be nice to see some stats before the policy and after the policy on how many different people post in the GW ghetto. Right now it feels like it is maybe the same 5 or 6 people constantly going at each other.

I like the change idea, I don't want to have to avoid any part of this board simply because of tone.

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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2011, 05:15:09 PM »
I don't go to the GW threads anyway.
It's just a bunch of childish bickering that I want no part of.

Easy solution - just stay out.

Except if you want to discuss global warming.

And of course Beleth indicated there was spillover into other forums, so staying away wouldn't work perfectly anyway.

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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2011, 05:48:16 PM »
I don't go to the GW threads anyway.
It's just a bunch of childish bickering that I want no part of.

Easy solution - just stay out.

Except if you want to discuss global warming.

And of course Beleth indicated there was spillover into other forums, so staying away wouldn't work perfectly anyway.

Since FX and Will Nitschke seem to have left (1.5 weeks or so ago), the bickering has died down to zero.

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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2011, 05:49:20 PM »
I don't go to the GW threads anyway.
It's just a bunch of childish bickering that I want no part of.

Easy solution - just stay out.

Except if you want to discuss global warming.

And of course Beleth indicated there was spillover into other forums, so staying away wouldn't work perfectly anyway.

Since FX and Will Nitschke seem to have left (1.5 weeks or so ago), the bickering has died down to zero.

What? Where did they go, or why did they leave?
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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2011, 06:22:15 PM »
What? Where did they go, or why did they leave?

Strange.  They both have logged in in the last 24 hours, but neither has posted since the 13th.

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Re: Moderation Tweaks - October 21, 2011
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2011, 06:28:23 PM »
What? Where did they go, or why did they leave?

Strange.  They both have logged in in the last 24 hours, but neither has posted since the 13th.

I asked a question in a new thread in gw ghetto the other day fully expected they would be the first to answer and they never entered the thread. I thought it was strange.
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