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Re: LCHF and healthy eating
« Reply #390 on: November 16, 2016, 12:42:47 PM »
They all sem to have been on J Moore's broadcast of the Metabolic Therapeutic lectures.  Some are a bit scholastic for my listening, but interesting.  Cancer, epilepy and diabetes.  And some serious scientific disagreement in the Q & A's.
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« Reply #391 on: November 16, 2016, 02:00:35 PM »
Somehow this interview with Mark Sisson escaped me.  It's a great explanation of how to build aerobic fitness (and how not to); a shortcut to his book "Primal Endurance".  Its a great book for those ageing athletes like myself to stave off sarcopenia and osteoporosis as well as maintaining strength and and fitness. 

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2016/06/06/podcast-207-primal-endurance-how-to-become-a-fat-burning-beast/

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« Reply #392 on: November 22, 2016, 07:05:38 PM »
A case study of advanced T2D being reversed (and subsequent withdrawal of medications). With such a large portion of the population being diabetic or pre-diabetic, these studies should be taken more seriously. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1523335/
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Re: LCHF and healthy eating
« Reply #393 on: December 02, 2016, 06:05:24 PM »
http://people.com/bodies/kristina-guice-weight-loss/

Not just an anecdote, I've known this young lady since she was born. She and my daughters have been friends their entire lives.
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« Reply #394 on: December 02, 2016, 06:14:24 PM »
http://people.com/bodies/kristina-guice-weight-loss/

Not just an anecdote, I've known this young lady since she was born. She and my daughters have been friends their entire lives.

How exactly does that not make this an anecdote?
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« Reply #395 on: December 02, 2016, 06:41:06 PM »
http://people.com/bodies/kristina-guice-weight-loss/

Not just an anecdote, I've known this young lady since she was born. She and my daughters have been friends their entire lives.

How exactly does that not make this an anecdote?

"Not just an anecdote" means it is an anecdote, but there is something else about it. In this case the something else is I have a personal connection to this young lady.
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« Reply #396 on: December 02, 2016, 06:55:48 PM »
I'll just drop this here. As you may recall BMJ published a peer-reviewed article detailing the failure of the dietary guidelines to be drafted without using the best science available, or even following their own standards, and revealed conflicts of interest among some of those working on the guidelines.

The CSPI found a fairly minor mistake in the paper and demanded the BMJ retract the paper. The author and the BMJ issued a correction for the error, but the push for a retraction continued.

The BMJ asked two independent experts to look at the case and make a determination.

The result is no retraction. Vindication. (There are links in the footnotes of this article if you want to follow the story from the beginning).

http://www.bmj.com/company/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/the-bmj-US-dietary-correction.pdf
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« Reply #397 on: December 02, 2016, 07:00:54 PM »
Very cool, ta.  Bloody vegans.
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« Reply #398 on: December 06, 2016, 02:50:00 PM »
I recently re-read the epilogue of "Catching Fire".  Wrangham really hits the recent cause of surging obesity on the head.  One short chapter captures it well.  Evolutionary clues tells the story.
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« Reply #399 on: December 08, 2016, 03:46:30 PM »
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db267.htm


Life expectancy is indeed declining.
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« Reply #400 on: December 08, 2016, 05:14:09 PM »
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db267.htm


Life expectancy is indeed declining.


We can't conclude that "life expectancy is declining" from data showing a decline for a single year, and a tiny, 0.1 year, decline at that.  Additionally, the decline seems to be entirely among those under age 65, suggesting that the decline that year was not due to an increase in chronic lifestyle diseases.  Indeed, if you look at the webpage, you'll see that an increase in cardiovascular deaths was more than offset (by a factor of 2) by a decline in cancer deaths.
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« Reply #401 on: December 08, 2016, 05:45:37 PM »
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db267.htm


Life expectancy is indeed declining.


We can't conclude that "life expectancy is declining" from data showing a decline for a single year, and a tiny, 0.1 year, decline at that.
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Additionally, the decline seems to be entirely among those under age 65, suggesting that the decline that year was not due to an increase in chronic lifestyle diseases.

That doesn't follow. If chronic-lifestyle diseases includes obesity, then it's not unusual that it would claim more victims under 65. Especially considering that the leading cause of death is heart disease and that is the major risk factor for obesity.

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Indeed, if you look at the webpage, you'll see that an increase in cardiovascular deaths was more than offset (by a factor of 2) by a decline in cancer deaths.

Which points more to obesity as a culprit.
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Re: LCHF and healthy eating
« Reply #402 on: December 08, 2016, 06:00:20 PM »
Global temperatures can do down for a year. That does not fit prove climate change models.
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« Reply #403 on: December 08, 2016, 09:44:09 PM »
We should ask an actuary.
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« Reply #404 on: December 14, 2016, 06:16:09 PM »
Hey, if any of you skeptics happen to have a LCHF fanatic dieter on your holiday shopping list, might I suggest:

"The Case Against Sugar" by Gary Taubes

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