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Offline Redamare

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« on: December 20, 2016, 12:26:32 AM »
Just watched todayIfoundout's video on YouTube about why Americans don't tend to use the bidet.

I think something must be missing from their perception of why we don't use them, because I now realize that he only indirectly addressed my own doubts about the bidet. I was honestly surprised to hear that bidets are supposed to be so effective. Don't get me wrong, I have also long thought it was crazy that Americans have been cleaning our butts with dry paper, but I find it hard to imagine a bidet actually cleaning much of anything even as well as that method. It seems like it would just leave everything wet without removing more than a few clumps of poop. I would almost think you need soap and a washcloth to do a really proper job, but it sounds like these things are working well enough in the countries that use them.

So, without soap or any sort of scrubbing, how does a bidet actually clean one's bum?
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Re: Bidets
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2016, 03:48:18 AM »
I just wanted to make a comment that I would not mind having one myself but they are just so expensive, like the cost of a pretty nice used car in some cases.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2016, 04:23:07 AM »
I use one, paper sucks!

If you got some shit on your hand would you just wipe it off with a thin square of tissue paper or would you wash your hands? why treat your ass any different?

I feel cleaner, I dont purchase expensive TP and I dont believe my water bill has gone up enough to matter, perhaps a dollar or two, it does not use that much water. I have a cheaper seat only model but i'm ready for an upgrade, The one I have now needs to warm up so i have to run the hot water in the sink while I am doing my business until its warm enough to use but its wasteful (still cheaper than TP) sometimes in the morning i dont bother and let the cold water wake me up.  Im ready for a self heating model with a blow dryer and all the other bells and whistles.

you can get the cheaper ones for less than $100 https://www.bidetsplus.com/bio-bidet-elite-3.html

how does it clean your bum? water pressure, it has a perfect spray for doing this, you can adjust the pressure to your liking.

edit: actually this is the one I have, the other one is cold water only, no thanks https://www.bidetsplus.com/bio-bidet-bb-270-duo.html

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Re: Bidets
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2016, 04:25:33 AM »
Is a bidet the same as a bum hose?
I fucking hate using a bum hose. My ass is wet after and when the floor is wet when you walk in to a bathroom, you KNOW its ass water.

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2016, 04:29:35 AM »
Is a bidet the same as a bum hose?
I fucking hate using a bum hose. My ass is wet after and when the floor is wet when you walk in to a bathroom, you KNOW its ass water.

they make towels for this, I keep them next to the unit, much like using the shower, the new ones have blow dryers
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2016, 04:34:07 AM »
I looked up " bum Hose" and no I dont think its the same thing, that looks like the dish washer sprayer we have in some kitchens. I would expect something like that to make a mess.
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Re: Bidets
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2016, 05:26:15 AM »
Is a bidet the same as a bum hose?
I fucking hate using a bum hose. My ass is wet after and when the floor is wet when you walk in to a bathroom, you KNOW its ass water.

I think I have seen bum hoses on a number of foreign vessels when I have had to stay aboard one when there was a security issue onboard.
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Re: Bidets
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2016, 05:30:35 AM »
I use one, paper sucks!

If you got some shit on your hand would you just wipe it off with a thin square of tissue paper or would you wash your hands? why treat your ass any different?

I feel cleaner, I dont purchase expensive TP and I dont believe my water bill has gone up enough to matter, perhaps a dollar or two, it does not use that much water. I have a cheaper seat only model but i'm ready for an upgrade, The one I have now needs to warm up so i have to run the hot water in the sink while I am doing my business until its warm enough to use but its wasteful (still cheaper than TP) sometimes in the morning i dont bother and let the cold water wake me up.  Im ready for a self heating model with a blow dryer and all the other bells and whistles.

you can get the cheaper ones for less than $100 https://www.bidetsplus.com/bio-bidet-elite-3.html

how does it clean your bum? water pressure, it has a perfect spray for doing this, you can adjust the pressure to your liking.

edit: actually this is the one I have, the other one is cold water only, no thanks https://www.bidetsplus.com/bio-bidet-bb-270-duo.html

Unfortunately the hot water line is some distance away from my toilet so would have to either live with cold or run a long hot water line.
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Re: Bidets
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2016, 06:42:50 AM »
One thing I found with the spray (dunno if its the same with a bidet) was when I would test wipe later, it was somehow dirty again? Like just slightly, but more than when I thoroughly wiped.
I duno. Its fine. I have a preference, but for environmental reasons, we should probably all use bidets unless in a region thats short of water.

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2016, 06:47:25 AM »
So other than a blow dryer, how does a bidet not make the same mess that Harry describes?
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Re: Bidets
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2016, 08:42:28 AM »
Is a bidet the same as a bum hose?
I fucking hate using a bum hose. My ass is wet after and when the floor is wet when you walk in to a bathroom, you KNOW its ass water.

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Re: Bidets
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2016, 10:29:41 AM »
So, without soap or any sort of scrubbing, how does a bidet actually clean one's bum?

It uses a water jet or jets to mechanically remove the material which is also generally water-soluble.  Soap isn't really necessary unless you're aiming for disinfection, which isn't very productive as the region will quickly become contaminated again.

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So other than a blow dryer, how does a bidet not make the same mess that Harry describes?

It's all contained in the toilet bowl.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2016, 10:35:13 AM »
But aren't you dripping when you stand up?
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Re: Bidets
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2016, 10:43:16 AM »
But aren't you dripping when you stand up?

You can either blow dry, pad yourself with TP, or wait a minute to air dry.
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Re: Bidets
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2016, 11:05:21 AM »
But aren't you dripping when you stand up?

You can either blow dry, pad yourself with TP, or wait a minute to air dry.

like I said i keep towels (cloth) in the bathroom, its no different then stepping out of the shower, TP does not work well on a wet surface but honestly you dont get that wet, the water is localized perfectly.
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