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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #75 on: July 02, 2017, 01:43:28 PM »
I thought somebody should post this

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/340223-epa-head-to-launch-initiative-to-challenge-climate-science

EPA head launching initiative to 'critique' climate science

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Scott Pruitt is leading a formal Trump administration program to “critique” mainstream climate change science.

Pruitt is skeptical of the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity, via greenhouse gases, is far and away the primary cause of climate change. But he’s stated he believes the climate is changing and humans have some role.

The initiative will be a “back-and-forth critique” of climate studies, using scientists recruited by the government to take different positions on the matters, Climatewire reported Friday, citing a senior administration official.

"Climate science like other fields of science is constantly changing," EPA spokeswoman Liz Bowman said in a statement. "A new, fresh, and transparent evaluation is something everyone should support doing."


Bullshit. . . .To be straight up, a bunch of states needs to take the EPA to task for global warming in federal court.
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #76 on: July 02, 2017, 01:48:43 PM »
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/340223-epa-head-to-launch-initiative-to-challenge-climate-science

EPA head launching initiative to 'critique' climate science

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Scott Pruitt is leading a formal Trump administration program to “critique” mainstream climate change science.

Pruitt is skeptical of the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity, via greenhouse gases, is far and away the primary cause of climate change. But he’s stated he believes the climate is changing and humans have some role.

The initiative will be a “back-and-forth critique” of climate studies, using scientists recruited by the government to take different positions on the matters, Climatewire reported Friday, citing a senior administration official.

"Climate science like other fields of science is constantly changing," EPA spokeswoman Liz Bowman said in a statement. "A new, fresh, and transparent evaluation is something everyone should support doing."


Same old merchants of doubt. Can't these assholes come up with something more original? Maybe some batshit crazy alternative hypothesis involving bigfoot farts? Something mildly entertaining is all I ask for.
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2017, 01:52:51 PM »
So now the EPA is the equivalent of the former Australian Vaccination Network.

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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #78 on: July 02, 2017, 02:13:27 PM »
So now the EPA is the equivalent of the former Australian Vaccination Network.

It would be like the Australian Vaccination Network took over the Australian Department of Health.
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #79 on: July 04, 2017, 02:00:07 AM »
Naomi Oreskes.  Great speech at the AAAS.  (Dr Novella, take note)

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-scientist-as-sentinel/8624944
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #80 on: July 06, 2017, 10:28:12 AM »
Oh, baby!



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« Reply #81 on: July 06, 2017, 12:30:04 PM »
About the size of New Jersey.
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #83 on: July 06, 2017, 05:42:22 PM »
I don't have any clue if this is real. . . .Seems strnage and connot be sure that the images represent what they claim
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/warnings-of-new-arctic-explosions-at-some-700-plus-sites-in-yamal-due-to-thawing-permafrost/

Warnings of new Arctic explosions at some 700-plus sites in Yamal due to thawing permafrost

Startling details have emerged of last week's methane gas blowout on an Arctic riverbank: a sudden and deafening bang from a large explosion of the ground near a reindeer encampment, fire shooting into the sky and raging for several minutes from the eruption, huge chunks of charred permafrost blown out of the ground, and a deep, eerie crater forming, some 50 metres deep which immediately filled with water.

Reindeer and dogs fled in fright. Sand and grass was blackened by the intense heat of the eruption which was described as 'a flame of fire and then a rising pillar of smoke'.

Scientists rushed to the scene on the Yamal Peninsula to examine the site in the immediate aftermath of the explosion, amid expert warnings that many can be expected as a warming climate leads to thawing permafrost and the release of potent methane gas which has lain frozen under the surface for thousands of years.

The ground is 'swelling' at more than 700 sites on Yamal - known to locals as 'the end of the world' -  have been identified as potential explosion sites, but these are seen as the tip of an iceberg.

Many are hillocks or knolls, some are pingos
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #84 on: July 06, 2017, 09:04:31 PM »
I don't have any clue if this is real. . . .Seems strnage and connot be sure that the images represent what they claim
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/warnings-of-new-arctic-explosions-at-some-700-plus-sites-in-yamal-due-to-thawing-permafrost/

Warnings of new Arctic explosions at some 700-plus sites in Yamal due to thawing permafrost

Startling details have emerged of last week's methane gas blowout on an Arctic riverbank: a sudden and deafening bang from a large explosion of the ground near a reindeer encampment, fire shooting into the sky and raging for several minutes from the eruption, huge chunks of charred permafrost blown out of the ground, and a deep, eerie crater forming, some 50 metres deep which immediately filled with water.

Reindeer and dogs fled in fright. Sand and grass was blackened by the intense heat of the eruption which was described as 'a flame of fire and then a rising pillar of smoke'.

Scientists rushed to the scene on the Yamal Peninsula to examine the site in the immediate aftermath of the explosion, amid expert warnings that many can be expected as a warming climate leads to thawing permafrost and the release of potent methane gas which has lain frozen under the surface for thousands of years.

The ground is 'swelling' at more than 700 sites on Yamal - known to locals as 'the end of the world' -  have been identified as potential explosion sites, but these are seen as the tip of an iceberg.

Many are hillocks or knolls, some are pingos


Interesting. Not the first time Yamal has come up.
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #85 on: July 06, 2017, 09:30:48 PM »
I have a message out to a friend who is a geologist to see what his thoughts are
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2017, 09:42:00 PM »
Quite possibly due to climate change, icebergs and pack ice have been especially prevalent around Newfoundland this year. Some great pictures here and a mention of climate change, but another source I can no longer find suggests that the warm conditions farther north have caused more Greenland pack ice to break off and go farther south.

Mrs. Beagle and I had actually booked a trip to Newfoundland in June, but Air Canada discontinued a flight from Kansas City to Toronto, which made the trip to St. John's a two-day affair in each direction. So they refunded our money.

We missed some fabulous icebergs, but would not have been able to take the ferry to Labrador as we had planned, due to the pack ice in the strait.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/destinations/canada-alaska/94455565/a-gigantic-iceberg-passes-by-a-tiny-town-in-newfoundland-and-labrador


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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #87 on: July 10, 2017, 03:20:00 AM »
Huge article from NY Mag.  It's well written.  It's a review of the angles on, "Climate Change: Worse And Sooner Than You Think." 
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Re: Climate Change Catchment Thread
« Reply #88 on: July 10, 2017, 09:13:15 AM »
I keep seeing population growth being brought up as problem, without any hint of suggesting that we should try to stop population growth itself.

We could do a lot towards that end, if instead of spending billions on abstinence-only programs, we spent money on sex education and birth control access. And if we otherwise didn't ban supporting organizations that were involved in sex education and reproductive healthcare.

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« Reply #89 on: July 10, 2017, 09:17:32 AM »
I keep seeing population growth being brought up as problem, without any hint of suggesting that we should try to stop population growth itself.

We could do a lot towards that end, if instead of spending billions on abstinence-only programs, we spent money on sex education and birth control access. And if we otherwise didn't ban supporting organizations that were involved in sex education and reproductive healthcare.
Countries good women's rights and access to birth control see much lower population growth.
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