Author Topic: Chinese factory replaces 90% of workers with robots. Production rises by 250%  (Read 2008 times)

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Offline 2397

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I don't think imposing sterility and such can be considered a serious topic, when we also have large political movements that are actively working to stop people from being able to freely control their own reproduction.

We know that providing affordable reproductive healthcare and free access to birth control helps significantly reduce pregnancy rates. There's no reason to be shady about it, at least not until we've tried offering the means to everyone, everywhere. And have educated everyone about it. Make sterilization free. Once we achieve maximum access to the means for people to willingly prevent reproduction, we'll be able to see if doing anything else is necessary. I very much doubt it, we have plenty of examples of countries with fertility rates well below replacement. They're not all China.

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These sudden large scale factory layoffs are going to be pretty common

Step 1: Make a company
Step 2: Hire humans to build company until you can afford robots
Step 3: When you can afford to buy robots and automation, replace your workforce.
Step 4: Profit

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The problem is that if a big chunk of the population isn't earning and spending then what is going to drive demand for the robot-produced goods in the economy? Maybe there will be a social push for buying products produced by human labour where the advantages gained by automation are marginal. This assumes the robots themselves aren't earning and spending, in which case we (humans) are in big trouble.

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So now with that increased profit, they need to pay more tax, to ensure the basic population can still survive and afford to buy the stuff the factory is making, Especially if the factory is making contraceptives.  Hurry up Elon,  we need more land and planets to expand into.

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So now with that increased profit, they need to pay more tax, to ensure the basic population can still survive and afford to buy the stuff the factory is making, Especially if the factory is making contraceptives.  Hurry up Elon,  we need more land and planets to expand into.

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So, what will arive first, an almost fully automated workforce with high unemployment, or universal guaranteed income?

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So, what will arive first, an almost fully automated workforce with high unemployment, or universal guaranteed income?
lol do you have to ask?  :laugh:
I don't think America is anywhere near ready to grapple with this guaranteed income. We'll have to depose the GOP first. I think it will be a shitshow before they can come to terms.
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So, what will arive first, an almost fully automated workforce with high unemployment, or universal guaranteed income?
lol do you have to ask?  :laugh:
I don't think America is anywhere near ready to grapple with this guaranteed income. We'll have to depose the GOP first. I think it will be a shitshow before they can come to terms.

Charles Murray's 'Losing Ground' was a major reason for the welfare reform in the 1990s - perhaps 'In Our Hands:A Plan to Replace the Welfare State' where he argues for a guaranteed basic income will be picked up by the GOP again and lead to major reform by the Trump administration or subsequent adminstrations.



"Imagine that the United States were to scrap all its income transfer programs—including Social Security, Medicare, and all forms of welfare—and give every American age twenty-one and older $10,000 a year for life.This is the Plan, a radical new approach to social policy that defies any partisan label. First laid out by Charles Murray a decade ago, the updated edition reflects economic developments since that time. Murray, who previous books include Losing Ground and The Bell Curve, demonstrates that the Plan is financially feasible and the uses detailed analysis to argue that many goals of the welfare state—elimination of poverty, comfortable retirement for everyone, universal access to healthcare—would be better served under the Plan than under the current system. Murray’s goal, shared by Left and Right, is a society in which everyone, including the unluckiest among us, has the opportunity and means to construct a satisfying life. In Our Hands offers a rich and startling new way to think about how that goal might be achieved."
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The trouble with robots is they can't think. They are limited to simple tasks. Humans, however, CAN think (to a degree). Robots could potentially be operated via remote control. Operation of industrial robots could be operated by low-wage humans in developing countries at a fraction the cost of local humans. Such a robot-human combo could perform just about any job.
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There are a lot of those simple tasks that we currently employ humans to do, to be replaced and automated. I'd expect that it's going to be well worth it to pay a relatively small number of people with educations that you can vet, to oversee the machines. There's also the issue of latency, and unforeseeable events where it's really useful to be on site or to be within a reasonable distance.

 

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