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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 05:11:37 PM »
Definitely ESB > New Hope

Definitely not.
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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 06:33:05 PM »
OK, I hope this link works...

http://www.imdb.com/search/keyword?keywords=sequel&sort=release_date,asc&mode=simple&page=21&ref_=kw_nxt

It should take you to the 21st page of the 8744 sequels that have been made of movies.

That page is where the sound era begins (1927) and there are already 1,000 sequel on the list.

The first titles I recognized in 1927/28 were "Steamboat Willie" and "Tarzan."

Other notables:


Huckleberry Finn  - 1931 a sequel to Tom Sawyer

Charlie Chan Carries On - 1931 (the first sequel of many)

Bride of Frankenstein - 1935 (the first sequel of many)

Dracula's Daughter - 1936 (the first sequel of many)

Hopalong Cassidy Returns  - 1936 (the first sequel of many)

After the Thin Man  - 1936 (the first sequel of many)

Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man - 1943

Road to Bali - 1952 (the first sequel of many)

Son of Flubber - 1963

Zatoichi Meets Yojimbo - 1970 (two samurai universes joined)

Airport 1975 - 1974 (the first sequel of many)

The Godfather: Part II - 1974 (the first sequel of 2)

French Connection II - 1975

The Return of the Pink Panther - 1975  (the first sequel of many)

I didn't notice many sequel titles with "2" or "II" or even "part II" or "part 2" appended until "Godfather: Part II." (There were a few others but mostly foreign films or documentaries and who cares about those?)

I stopped looking before I got to the Rambo and Rocky sequels.


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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 06:46:15 PM »
In my mind I always held a distinction between sequels of the 70s and on, and movies pre-70s. It felt like maybe post Godfather and Star Wars it became less about the main character's episodic adventures and more about world building as well.
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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 06:53:19 PM »
In my mind I always held a distinction between sequels of the 70s and on, and movies pre-70s. It felt like maybe post Godfather and Star Wars it became less about the main character's episodic adventures and more about world building as well.
That may just be me.

Interesting... of the list of sequels I think "Airport" is the only one that doesn't have characters from the original continue in the sequels. Can't think of any others.
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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2017, 03:30:18 PM »

Interesting... of the list of sequels I think "Airport" is the only one that doesn't have characters from the original continue in the sequels. Can't think of any others.

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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2017, 04:08:21 PM »
Blade Runner. It established sci fi could be about a future that wasn't clean and sliver and utopian.

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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2017, 05:06:06 PM »
Blade Runner. It established sci fi could be about a future that wasn't clean and sliver and utopian.


Wasn't Soylent Green that did that?  Or even Things to Come, 1936? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Things_to_Come

That being said, Blade Runner was super influential, not just on film but also the genre of cyber punk in literature and even music.

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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2017, 08:29:09 AM »
Blade Runner. It established sci fi could be about a future that wasn't clean and sliver and utopian.


Wasn't Soylent Green that did that?  Or even Things to Come, 1936? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Things_to_Come

That being said, Blade Runner was super influential, not just on film but also the genre of cyber punk in literature and even music.

You're right. There were other dystopian movies before it. But indeed Blade Runner really established the template for dystopian worlds, the mixture of high tech and low tech particularly.
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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2017, 09:25:02 AM »
Blade Runner. It established sci fi could be about a future that wasn't clean and sliver and utopian.


Wasn't Soylent Green that did that?  Or even Things to Come, 1936? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Things_to_Come

That being said, Blade Runner was super influential, not just on film but also the genre of cyber punk in literature and even music.

You're right. There were other dystopian movies before it. But indeed Blade Runner really established the template for dystopian worlds, the mixture of high tech and low tech particularly.

Fair point, I've heard Star Trek described as the reverse.  It was the only Sci Fi that predicted a future that wasn't an awful dystopia or post apocalypse.  It probably wasn't but I can't think of anything earlier.

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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2017, 03:51:47 PM »
heh, actually you can call Trek post-apocalypse. We have to go thru the Third World War, The Genetics War, and the Post Atomic Horror to get to the Federation. And THEN we get war on an inter-planetary scale with the Romulans, Klingons, Cardassians, Dominion, and probably a few others I forget.


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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2017, 12:34:51 AM »
Blade Runner. It established sci fi could be about a future that wasn't clean and sliver and utopian.


Wasn't Soylent Green that did that?  Or even Things to Come, 1936? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Things_to_Come

That being said, Blade Runner was super influential, not just on film but also the genre of cyber punk in literature and even music.

You're right. There were other dystopian movies before it. But indeed Blade Runner really established the template for dystopian worlds, the mixture of high tech and low tech particularly.

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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2017, 11:28:05 AM »
I think "Ishtar" was very influential. I know one cinema class where the prof started off with "And this is how you don't do it."
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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2017, 03:40:29 PM »
I think "Ishtar" was very influential. I know one cinema class where the prof started off with "And this is how you don't do it."
Really? Honestly I didn't think it was *that* bad of a movie. It was a comedy made with a too-large budget that cast too-large actors in starring roles, and it got *so* much negative hype that it went the way of Gigli as soon as it came out, but as a slightly more modern version of a Bob Hope / Bing Crosby road movie, it was decently funny and I thought worked pretty well. I can think of a lot of major Hollywood movies that were a *lot* worse (see: Ransom, starring Nicholas Cage and Nicole Kidman for one example).
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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2017, 09:27:49 AM »
What about airplane?

That invented an entirely new genre.

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Re: The most influential movies and films in history
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2017, 10:17:26 AM »
What about airplane?

That invented an entirely new genre.
Unfortunately true, I'm not sure it invented it but it certainly popularized it and has given us 2 or 3 really funny movies and dozens of lesser Wayan's productions. 

 

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