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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2017, 03:02:28 PM »
so um, in conclusion.

I'm just going to make sure to wipe down the mat before I put my knees there.
That sounds like good, general life advice!  :)

Sounds like the advice of a Discworld deity...

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"Well... er, just make sure to wipe down the mat before you put your knees there."
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2017, 03:36:14 PM »
I always lower the leg part and just do a pull up. What is the function of the leg part/weight part?
To reduce  your own body weight on a pull up. It's an assist to build you up to your own body weight basically.

Luckily, we haven't a machine like that.  Just a setup that allows multiple grips (my elbows like the choice of a neutral grip) and anyone that wants an assist just uses an elastic band.  I wouldn't think pulling up from a straight elbow hang as shown in the link is a good idea for one's elbows. 
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2017, 05:37:15 PM »
I always lower the leg part and just do a pull up. What is the function of the leg part/weight part?
To reduce  your own body weight on a pull up. It's an assist to build you up to your own body weight basically.

Luckily, we haven't a machine like that.  Just a setup that allows multiple grips (my elbows like the choice of a neutral grip) and anyone that wants an assist just uses an elastic band.  I wouldn't think pulling up from a straight elbow hang as shown in the link is a good idea for one's elbows.
Hmmm don't know about the machine in the link, but the one at my gym has multiple grips at different levels as well. It's also an assisted dip machine. I definitely don't ever extend my arms fully on any exercise, just to the point of full extension as I don't want to over extend and work the joint itself.
I like it, I'm 220lbs (give or take) and I don't have the strength yet to pull or dip my full body weight, so taking 50-60lbs off is better than struggling from a dead hang. I envy shorter people often, it would be nicer to have a better size to strength ratio.  :laugh:
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2017, 05:44:10 PM »
I always lower the leg part and just do a pull up. What is the function of the leg part/weight part?
To reduce  your own body weight on a pull up. It's an assist to build you up to your own body weight basically.

Luckily, we haven't a machine like that.  Just a setup that allows multiple grips (my elbows like the choice of a neutral grip) and anyone that wants an assist just uses an elastic band.  I wouldn't think pulling up from a straight elbow hang as shown in the link is a good idea for one's elbows.
Hmmm don't know about the machine in the link, but the one at my gym has multiple grips at different levels as well. It's also an assisted dip machine. I definitely don't ever extend my arms fully on any exercise, just to the point of full extension as I don't want to over extend and work the joint itself.
I like it, I'm 220lbs (give or take) and I don't have the strength yet to pull or dip my full body weight, so taking 50-60lbs off is better than struggling from a dead hang. I envy shorter people often, it would be nicer to have a better size to strength ratio.  :laugh:

I remember when I fully extended my arms with pull ups or dipped below 45ยบ.  Pull ups and dips are very functional exercises.

I will add 15 kgs to dips and pull ups, three sets of three, but lately I have fallen into the 15/8/4 thing with them.  Instead of adding weight each set, I just reduce the rest time so that the last four are a struggle to keep good form. 
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2017, 12:19:25 AM »
I wouldn't think pulling up from a straight elbow hang as shown in the link is a good idea for one's elbows. 
why?
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2017, 03:59:18 AM »
I wouldn't think pulling up from a straight elbow hang as shown in the link is a good idea for one's elbows. 
why?

A lot of torque on a joint that seems to be susceptible to injury for no benefit unless one is a gymnast. 
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2017, 04:52:03 AM »
I wouldn't think pulling up from a straight elbow hang as shown in the link is a good idea for one's elbows. 
why?

A lot of torque on a joint that seems to be susceptible to injury for no benefit unless one is a gymnast. 

what makes you think dead hang pullups are a cause of elbow injuries?

I mean, you may as well blame the leg press for the existence of ankle injuries. seems arbitrary given the wide range of activities more likely to be the cause
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2017, 03:07:06 PM »
I wouldn't think pulling up from a straight elbow hang as shown in the link is a good idea for one's elbows. 
why?

A lot of torque on a joint that seems to be susceptible to injury for no benefit unless one is a gymnast. 

what makes you think dead hang pullups are a cause of elbow injuries?

I mean, you may as well blame the leg press for the existence of ankle injuries. seems arbitrary given the wide range of activities more likely to be the cause

Just like grip and hand position, one needs to take care to not injure oneself.  I find that not going from a dead hang (not functional for me) and using a neutral grip (we don't have rings) allows me to do heaps of a very functional exercise without pain or injury.  When I used dead hang starts in the past, I had elbow pain for no gain.

That said, I never say anything to anyone about any exercise they are doing unless they ask.
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