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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2017, 09:17:20 AM »
Are the chapters short because Patreon is truncating them, or because in this early draft you have not yet filled them out yet? Or because Patreon puts limits on the length of posts?
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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2017, 09:57:46 PM »
Are the chapters short because Patreon is truncating them, or because in this early draft you have not yet filled them out yet? Or because Patreon puts limits on the length of posts?
The chapters are short because they are short. I don't understand the question.

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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2017, 08:46:44 AM »
Are the chapters short because Patreon is truncating them, or because in this early draft you have not yet filled them out yet? Or because Patreon puts limits on the length of posts?
The chapters are short because they are short. I don't understand the question.

Okay. The question was because they just seemed really incomplete to me. And perhaps because I'm used to book chapters being longer and more fleshed out. They seemed to me more like outlines than finished work. Thus I asked.
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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2017, 10:53:23 PM »
Are the chapters short because Patreon is truncating them, or because in this early draft you have not yet filled them out yet? Or because Patreon puts limits on the length of posts?
The chapters are short because they are short. I don't understand the question.

Okay. The question was because they just seemed really incomplete to me. And perhaps because I'm used to book chapters being longer and more fleshed out. They seemed to me more like outlines than finished work. Thus I asked.

Well, like I said, we're only about 5 minutes into the story. They'll get fleshed out as the story progresses.

But on the other hand, yeah, they're first drafts. Actually they're second drafts, but regardless they're in no way finished. In this week's blog post (for paying patrons) I outline much of how the long-term story going to work.

Also, there are chapters in some of the Song of Ice and Fire books that are barely a page long.

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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2017, 08:01:12 AM »
Finally read it.  Two suggestions.  The first is to go over some of the wording.  You use bearing twice in the same sentence for example.  Just another go through before publication and all.  The other is consistency of voice for internal monologue and tense.  The distinction between narration and a character's thoughts should be more clear at times, as it's third person narration that seems tied to a particular person's view.

Very good, "What's going on, oh that's not what I expected..." situational opening.  It's okay that I feel lost and have my assumptions as I read completely overturned because that's the same view as the main character.  On a kindle, but will back when on a pc later today or tomorrow.
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2017, 11:58:39 PM »
Yeah, as I said this isn't the final draft - those language errors will be sorted out over time.

I thought about putting characters' internal monologues in italics, but that's a very overdone trope in my opinion.

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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2017, 10:08:58 AM »
Yeah, as I said this isn't the final draft - those language errors will be sorted out over time.

I thought about putting characters' internal monologues in italics, but that's a very overdone trope in my opinion.

Don't be afraid to use some tropes.  If you eschew all tropes you leave no touchstones for the reader.
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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2017, 11:27:08 AM »
Third person for narrative voice, first person for thoughts could help.
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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2017, 07:24:14 PM »
Yeah, as I said this isn't the final draft - those language errors will be sorted out over time.

I thought about putting characters' internal monologues in italics, but that's a very overdone trope in my opinion.

Don't be afraid to use some tropes.  If you eschew all tropes you leave no touchstones for the reader.

My specific stated purpose is to highlight and play with some standard fantasy tropes (spoiler: there's a dragon later), but there's a difference between a trope of the genre and a trope of the writing style. I want to avoid writing-style tropes as much as I can because I don't want to be seen as derivative of other authors.

Says the guy who just cited GRRM as a justification for short chapters...  ::)

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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2017, 05:39:01 AM »
Bump for self reference.
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Re: My Fantasy Novel
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2017, 07:05:09 PM »
I forgot to make my weekly post yesterday. I'll be doing that today before I go out.

In other news, after a month-long dry spell, I've got the inspiration for the next bit of the story. Remembering of course that the chapters on Patreon lag many chapters behind what's actually written.

 

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