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I think a simple question that would clear up a lot for me is basically, is cultural appropriation always bad, albeit occasionally leads to something we generally consider positive despite it's origins (e. g. rock and roll)?
Quote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 10:52:39 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 10:48:40 AMQuote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkIt must be so nice to be so removed from issues of sexism/classism/racism to have the luxury of derision of those trying to make things more fair for everyone.You can call it fairness if you like. Looks like shaming to me.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
Quote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 10:48:40 AMQuote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkIt must be so nice to be so removed from issues of sexism/classism/racism to have the luxury of derision of those trying to make things more fair for everyone.
Quote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
in the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?
Waaaah... I'm an unsufferable troll who somehow thinks mocking people by putting words in their mouth makes for a good argument.
Quote from: Johnny Slick on April 04, 2017, 09:20:46 AMWaaaah... I'm an unsufferable troll who somehow thinks mocking people by putting words in their mouth makes for a good argument.I agree.
Quote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:04:09 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 10:52:39 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 10:48:40 AMQuote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkIt must be so nice to be so removed from issues of sexism/classism/racism to have the luxury of derision of those trying to make things more fair for everyone.You can call it fairness if you like. Looks like shaming to me.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkI absolutely was shaming you for being derisive and dismissive (i.e. shaming) of people who are trying to make things more fair. You started it, don't dish it out if you can't take it.
Quote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 11:32:49 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:04:09 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 10:52:39 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 10:48:40 AMQuote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkIt must be so nice to be so removed from issues of sexism/classism/racism to have the luxury of derision of those trying to make things more fair for everyone.You can call it fairness if you like. Looks like shaming to me.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkI absolutely was shaming you for being derisive and dismissive (i.e. shaming) of people who are trying to make things more fair. You started it, don't dish it out if you can't take it.You've yet to show how the world would be more fair (or better in any way) if we choose to shame people for adopting good ideas from other cultures. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
Quote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:55:19 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 11:32:49 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:04:09 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 10:52:39 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 10:48:40 AMQuote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkIt must be so nice to be so removed from issues of sexism/classism/racism to have the luxury of derision of those trying to make things more fair for everyone.You can call it fairness if you like. Looks like shaming to me.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkI absolutely was shaming you for being derisive and dismissive (i.e. shaming) of people who are trying to make things more fair. You started it, don't dish it out if you can't take it.You've yet to show how the world would be more fair (or better in any way) if we choose to shame people for adopting good ideas from other cultures. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkYou clearly didn't click on the link I posted, nor did you watch the video, nor did you carefully read anything I wrote. I can't account for you not paying very good attention.
Quote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 12:19:54 PMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:55:19 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 11:32:49 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:04:09 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 10:52:39 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 10:48:40 AMQuote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkIt must be so nice to be so removed from issues of sexism/classism/racism to have the luxury of derision of those trying to make things more fair for everyone.You can call it fairness if you like. Looks like shaming to me.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkI absolutely was shaming you for being derisive and dismissive (i.e. shaming) of people who are trying to make things more fair. You started it, don't dish it out if you can't take it.You've yet to show how the world would be more fair (or better in any way) if we choose to shame people for adopting good ideas from other cultures. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkYou clearly didn't click on the link I posted, nor did you watch the video, nor did you carefully read anything I wrote. I can't account for you not paying very good attention.What is your single best example of unfair cultural appropriation? Dreadlocks on insufficiently colored people?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
Howabout you watch the video and share your thoughts?
Quote from: SkeptiQueer on April 04, 2017, 12:25:12 PMHowabout you watch the video and share your thoughts?Middle-class urban-dwelling bandwidth privilege, rearing its ugly head.
Good thing the Phoenicians didn't keep the alphabet to themselves.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
Quote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 12:22:08 PMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 12:19:54 PMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:55:19 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 11:32:49 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 11:04:09 AMQuote from: 6EQUJ5 on April 04, 2017, 10:52:39 AMQuote from: D4M10N on April 04, 2017, 10:48:40 AMQuote from: superdave on April 04, 2017, 10:39:51 AMin the hair example...wouldn't the ideal outcome be to encourage a culture where both women can feel comfortable with whatever hair they want?A promising solution, but then we'd have to put aside identity politics and give up the righteous glow that comes with fighting for marginal cultures against shameless borrowers of ancient ideas.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkIt must be so nice to be so removed from issues of sexism/classism/racism to have the luxury of derision of those trying to make things more fair for everyone.You can call it fairness if you like. Looks like shaming to me.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkI absolutely was shaming you for being derisive and dismissive (i.e. shaming) of people who are trying to make things more fair. You started it, don't dish it out if you can't take it.You've yet to show how the world would be more fair (or better in any way) if we choose to shame people for adopting good ideas from other cultures. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkYou clearly didn't click on the link I posted, nor did you watch the video, nor did you carefully read anything I wrote. I can't account for you not paying very good attention.What is your single best example of unfair cultural appropriation? Dreadlocks on insufficiently colored people?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkThe shit that Lula gets into in the middle of Act 2 is obviously not "real" in that this is all made up but it's based on truth:http://faculty.atu.edu/cbrucker/Engl2013/texts/Dutchman.pdf