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Re: The Orville
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2017, 01:35:06 AM »
a zoo episode, eh.

It's been done at least as far back as "The Twilight Zone.".  I did enjoy the way they resolved it.

yeh. it was just funny to see two in the same week
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2017, 05:23:26 AM »
I'm gonna watch the first two episodes tonight. McFarlane has never been a favourite of mine either, but 1000 Ways to Die in the West (or something like that) had some really hilarious moments and swayed me towards giving him some leeway.
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2017, 09:26:46 AM »
It really helps that this is an ensemble cast.  MacFarlane still hasn't figured out use of his body and facial expressions. 

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 02:26:40 AM »
It really helps that this is an ensemble cast.  MacFarlane still hasn't figured out use of his body and facial expressions.

I think you're right. I must say, i really enjoyed how much of a throwback it was to the original Star Trek series and as much as I'd like to give MacFarlane credit for his creation here, the show would be better without him acting in it. All of the scenes in episode 2 with his participation were dull or contrived. Then again, without him this would mostly just be a remake. I hope he recognises the weaknesses and plugs them to make the series a success.
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Re: The Orville
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2017, 03:23:14 AM »
personally I don't think the show justifies a full length lazy long Star Trek style intro music sequence.
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2017, 04:25:38 AM »
Did he create this series because he wanted to act in it?

I haven't watched it yet, but seeing him in the promotional material makes it feel like something's off.

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2017, 07:48:01 AM »
he wanted to act in it

and didn't want to have to spend hours in the make-up chair.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2017, 08:38:43 AM »
At this point I feel like MacFarlane's acting and his character are the weakest parts of the show thus far.  His relationship with his Ex/XO also clashes a lot with the premise of the show IMO as well. 

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2017, 09:04:59 AM »
At this point I feel like MacFarlane's acting and his character are the weakest parts of the show thus far.  His relationship with his Ex/XO also clashes a lot with the premise of the show IMO as well.

Yes.  That and the tech is so inconstant.  Even in the first two eps, I can already see where they have written themselves into a corner with stuff that will tech their way out of too many problems.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 09:22:13 AM »
At this point I feel like MacFarlane's acting and his character are the weakest parts of the show thus far.  His relationship with his Ex/XO also clashes a lot with the premise of the show IMO as well.

Yes.  That and the tech is so inconstant.  Even in the first two eps, I can already see where they have written themselves into a corner with stuff that will tech their way out of too many problems.

At least that is a huge sci-fi trope. This show having a comedic bent also means that simply nodding and winking about such things wouldn't be too offensive if it comes up, though it does undermine the drama they seem to be aiming for.

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2017, 10:15:24 AM »
I tried with The Orville. It just made me want to go back and watch some classic Trek, so I did!

That's something, I guess.

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Re: The Orville
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2017, 08:35:16 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2017, 12:11:03 AM »
I liked this episode of Star Trek and will continue watching. 

That said, the writing could've been better.  They spent a lot of time on cross-species comparisons which were irrelevant to either what Bortus/Klyden found persuasive or to thei quasi-genocidal compatriots' concerns.  It felt confused, which is probably appropriate for a cultural relativism episode.
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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2017, 02:11:59 AM »
Episode 3 takes an unexpected serious turn. 
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2017, 04:02:45 AM »
This episode is by far the best they've done so far.  The acting was well done, the jokes mostly mostly made me laugh ("well, depending on how you use it" :D), and the plot totally makes good on striving to honor Star Trek.  I only have two real complaints.  One is that in service of a joke (admittedly a funny one) they undercut the core conflict of the show.  Making Bortus change his apparently stubborn mind solely by watching Rudolph was fucking hilarious, but it made his position way less plausible.  Why would he be so strongly opposed after having changed a core, lifelong belief only a few hours prior?  The other is, like Fortran said, the fact that all the counter arguments made at the arbitration, except the last one, relied on females of other species and were mostly irrelevant because of it.  For instance, what if females of their species evolved to have at 75% mortality rate after reaching a young age? 

Other than that though, if the show continues to produce episodes of this caliber or gets even better then I'll be a very happy camper.