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Google is getting too smart?
« on: December 06, 2014, 10:23:06 PM »
I was doing some searches at home on my computer in Google. I open the browser on my new phone and the phone immediately goes to the Google searches I did (looking at the murder case of Barry Beach)

Edit: I need to note that the searches I did were on my home computer and they then showed up on my phone

Sometimes I think Google is getting too smart?
« Last Edit: December 07, 2014, 01:22:55 PM by Desert Fox »
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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2014, 12:52:11 PM »
I tried duckduckgo.
I realised the value of some kind of prediction based on location as I had to specify everytime the country i was in and the area for stuff that I never even considered relevant before.
I do feel like they could strike a balance if they wanted to and hold information locally on my device as opposed to holding on to it.

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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2014, 01:22:41 PM »
I need to note that the searches I did were on my home computer and they then showed up on my phone
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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 01:41:54 PM »
I understand the privacy implications, but the fact is that it is convenient for me so I won't complain.  It's the same reason that, despite my objections to Facebook's privacy policies and especially their psychological experimentation on users, I won't delete my Facebook account.  Perhaps I am being short-sighted, but that's the way the issue has balanced in my mind right now.
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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2014, 05:16:04 PM »
People have been complaining about google tracking your every move, but hey, it will be a reasonable allibli if I am ever wrongly accused.

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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 05:30:50 PM »
People have been complaining about google tracking your every move, but hey, it will be a reasonable allibli if I am ever wrongly accused.

You can have an ironclad alibi and still be convicted. . . . .
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 05:31:35 PM »
People have been complaining about google tracking your every move, but hey, it will be a reasonable allibli if I am ever wrongly accused.

You can have an ironclad alibi and still be convicted. . . . .

Yes, when did I say otherwise?

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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 07:31:31 AM »
Your phone data might feed into a body of evidence supporting that you werent somewhere at some time but a determined person could fake it very easily so Im not sure how much faith a court would put in it if you had a really murdery face or they put alot of faith in some opposing testimony.
To me its not worth the risk.
Also, we are again assuming that the crimes we are being accused of are things we are innocent of. Sometimes just speaking out against a government policy (in some countries) can be illegal and we are making it way too easy for our governments to decide on a whim that a current freedom is now a crime and have the apparatus ready made to pursue us for it.

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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2014, 08:07:18 PM »
What do you mean by too smart?

Obviously, they do this for a reason. My guess is that you have the setting turned on that saves your searches to your google user account, so that when you log in from any device those searches are available. The reason for that is clearly to help users maintain consistency across devices, so that common tasks don't have to be repeated just because they were done somewhere else. If you don't think that's worth it, I believe you can turn off that setting.

Obviously, a lot of stuff Google, Facebook or others do isn't so easy to turn off, but again, it's all generally done for a reason. They're trying to make their products better. Sometimes "better" isn't better for any one individual consumer, but discussions about technology companies going too far with privacy invasions always seem to ignore the context of them doing it as part of improving their products.

Personally, I don't see this stuff as a big deal. Sure, it feels creepy. But so have a lot of technological advances over the years. Then they eventually end up being normal and new stuff seems creepy. In 20 years these things will be normal and we'll have new privacy concerns, some of which will be important but many of which will also end up being forgotten.

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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2014, 09:04:45 PM »
I am sorry, I mean it more in humor not in panic. . . . .Just kind of funny when you were doing searches on your desktop and the same searches come up as suggestions on your cell phone.
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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2014, 09:10:34 AM »
their profile of my interests are pretty accurate. Way more than they were a year ago.
I dont like my porn habits being tracked  and stored somewhere. That feels very weird.

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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2014, 09:13:31 AM »
If you enable to automatic upload of your cell photos to google's photo site, there seems to be some setting that detects if it's a picture of two people kissing and then automatically adds in a heart border. It doesn't seem to do it on my phone but it does it automatically on my GF's phone. I tease "google, as detected you are asian. Would you like google to automatically up the kawaii of your photos by 30%?"

Also, if you have some sort of gps tagging, it knows when you've been on a trip and builds out these spooky photo albums.
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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2014, 10:22:25 AM »
Ha! Would be kind of hilarious if some of my photos showed up with a heart around them.
But its the biggest thing i have to fight against when i get a new phone- so many default auto upload settings and then clever little collages of my galleries when i play music or just open certain folders.
Hey Sony, maybe that video of my partner and I is not what I want to pop up when people grab my phone to scroll through the travel pics I was showing them?
I read a hilarious article by a software dev on Cracked before who said it was impossible to raise those issues in meetings because everyone would studiously pretend they had no idea why anyone would not want stuff to go automatically to the cloud a d facebook! And so they all just chose to believe we live in a network tv show asexual world.

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Re: Google is getting too smart?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2014, 02:05:33 PM »
I am sorry, I mean it more in humor not in panic. . . . .Just kind of funny when you were doing searches on your desktop and the same searches come up as suggestions on your cell phone.
Understood. I didn't take your post as being too serious. But I do hear complaints like that a lot, and people really do get pissed and/or scared about that stuff.

 

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