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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #465 on: June 13, 2019, 03:06:15 PM »
How’s that any more court cases than the victim having to enforce three separate judgments against the at fault parties? It’s not—it just shifts the burden from the victim to those at fault. The point of joint and several liability is to prioritize making the victim whole and place the burden of collecting on those responsible.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #466 on: June 13, 2019, 05:46:45 PM »
How’s that any more court cases than the victim having to enforce three separate judgments against the at fault parties? It’s not—it just shifts the burden from the victim to those at fault. The point of joint and several liability is to prioritize making the victim whole and place the burden of collecting on those responsible.

I was thinking that all are on trial at the same time with the verdict that they handed down. Maybe I am reading to much into the question. If that is the case then I can see it.
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« Reply #467 on: June 15, 2019, 02:02:57 PM »
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« Reply #468 on: June 15, 2019, 02:05:59 PM »
I don't remember if the Fed pays state tax or not. In any case I'm going to go with:
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« Reply #469 on: June 15, 2019, 03:35:09 PM »
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« Reply #470 on: June 15, 2019, 04:18:40 PM »
I guess A.  The collector is being charged a commission, which means that he is performing a service.
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« Reply #471 on: June 15, 2019, 05:54:28 PM »
I have no idea.
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« Reply #472 on: June 15, 2019, 06:02:51 PM »
I have no idea.

I'm with you, but I seem to be saying that a lot of late.
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« Reply #473 on: June 15, 2019, 09:04:28 PM »
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« Reply #474 on: June 16, 2019, 11:11:30 AM »
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #475 on: June 16, 2019, 01:28:41 PM »
The only tax we are talking about, I think, is on the sale between the Park Service and the collector.

I do not think this understanding of the question is correct.  The taxes in question are on the purchase of the item by the collector.  For one thing, it is settled that the federal government pays no state sales taxes directly; the question is whether it pays them indirectly through its agents.
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« Reply #476 on: June 17, 2019, 12:17:00 PM »
The only tax we are talking about, I think, is on the sale between the Park Service and the collector.

I do not think this understanding of the question is correct.  The taxes in question are on the purchase of the item by the collector.  For one thing, it is settled that the federal government pays no state sales taxes directly; the question is whether it pays them indirectly through its agents.

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« Reply #477 on: June 17, 2019, 01:23:01 PM »
The only tax we are talking about, I think, is on the sale between the Park Service and the collector.

I do not think this understanding of the question is correct.  The taxes in question are on the purchase of the item by the collector.  For one thing, it is settled that the federal government pays no state sales taxes directly; the question is whether it pays them indirectly through its agents.

In some states the Federal Government does pay sales tax.

I think you're right that the sales tax in question is the tax paid by the collector when the items were purchased.

If I go to home depot and buy drywall for myself, I have to pay sales tax. But if I buy it to sell to someone else I don't, but the purchaser does.

The collector should not have to pay those taxes because the items are being resold to the federal government.

But, that's not what the grounds for the suit are. The grounds are that the tax is unconstitutional.
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« Reply #478 on: June 17, 2019, 04:56:59 PM »
The only tax we are talking about, I think, is on the sale between the Park Service and the collector.

I do not think this understanding of the question is correct.  The taxes in question are on the purchase of the item by the collector.  For one thing, it is settled that the federal government pays no state sales taxes directly; the question is whether it pays them indirectly through its agents.

In some states the Federal Government does pay sales tax.

I think you're right that the sales tax in question is the tax paid by the collector when the items were purchased.

If I go to home depot and buy drywall for myself, I have to pay sales tax. But if I buy it to sell to someone else I don't, but the purchaser does.

The collector should not have to pay those taxes because the items are being resold to the federal government.

But, that's not what the grounds for the suit are. The grounds are that the tax is unconstitutional.

My answer was probably influenced by the fact that I do a sales tax return every month for the business.  Though I never take the deduction, there is a code for "Sales to Federal Government."  The way our system works is if I sell something directly to a business for their use, we are responsible for collecting the tax from the buyer and paying it to the state and city.  Our subcontracting work is generally exempt from sales tax, but we are responsible for getting documentation from the General Contractor that they are handling the sales taxes in the contract.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #479 on: June 17, 2019, 11:52:56 PM »
And here is the answer to #130

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