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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #795 on: January 13, 2020, 07:15:41 PM »
Since we're not supposed to look up what any of those clauses say, I have absolutely no idea. If I was taking the test, I would just guess entirely at random, assuming there's no more penalty for a wrong answer than there is for leaving an answer blank.

So I'm going to guess A, only because it cites an amendment rather than a clause of the main text. Rights for individuals seem to more often be in the amendments than in the main body of the Constitution.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #796 on: January 13, 2020, 11:01:26 PM »
I’m saying C.  The 14th amendment only applies to government actors. The general welfare clause  restricts the power of taxation.  Privileges and immunities is about equality between states.

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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #797 on: January 16, 2020, 09:56:55 AM »
Here I was waiting for the answer to be posted, when it's been up there all this time.

I guess I didn't quite phrase the Privileges and Immunities thing correctly, but I had the right idea. 
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #798 on: January 16, 2020, 12:42:53 PM »
I'm maintaining my streak of forgetting to answer,   :-\ I'll definitely make an effort next week.  I think I would have gotten this one, too - it's always the Commerce Clause.  :laugh:
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #799 on: January 16, 2020, 06:31:35 PM »
When push comes to shove it always seems  to turn out to be commerce clause
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« Reply #800 on: January 18, 2020, 09:39:14 AM »
When push comes to shove it always seems  to turn out to be commerce clause

That's because it's the go-to clause for pushing the boundaries of Federal power.
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« Reply #801 on: January 18, 2020, 03:33:41 PM »
When push comes to shove it always seems  to turn out to be commerce clause

That's because it's the go-to clause for pushing the boundaries of Federal power.


Yep, just like RICO laws.
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« Reply #802 on: January 19, 2020, 10:28:58 AM »
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #803 on: January 19, 2020, 10:31:40 AM »
This is interesting in that it is trying to show the nuances of the law. I can see all the answers in a way to be correct. I am going to go with B. It seems straight forward and to the point.
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« Reply #804 on: January 19, 2020, 11:41:15 AM »
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #806 on: January 19, 2020, 12:14:29 PM »
I find the idea that one can withdraw from a conspiracy after one has been caught and questioned by police and confessed to the crime -- indeed, that the very act of confessing to the conspiracy relieves one of guilt -- highly amusing.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #807 on: January 19, 2020, 12:33:20 PM »
When push comes to shove it always seems  to turn out to be commerce clause

That's because it's the go-to clause for pushing the boundaries of Federal power.
lol, yep, I remember that much from my constitutional history class.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #808 on: January 19, 2020, 12:35:14 PM »
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #809 on: January 19, 2020, 04:03:22 PM »
My guess is C.

I think A is wrong because I don't think the evidence shows a conspiracy. "Too many officers" could refer to anything.

I think B is wrong because the fact that both of them possessed cocaine does not demonstrate conspiracy. They might have both decided to smuggle the drugs independently. And in fact (with reference to A, above) the "too many officers" comment does not demonstrate that the sister knew that the woman was (also) smuggling drugs. No conspiracy has been proven.

And D is obviously wrong because "withdrawing from the conspiracy" after being arrested is not a thing, or anybody arrested for conspiracy could "withdraw" from it during questioning.

So I think C is correct: All the evidence shows is that both the woman and the sister committed separate crimes of smuggling.
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