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Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« on: October 01, 2018, 01:18:46 PM »
Allergen - a substance capable of binding to IgE antibodies and triggering an allergic reaction. Lately I keep coming across headlines where people are saying that they've been diagnosed with an allergy to the water molecule, but is this true?

Woman with an allergy to the H20 molecule who cannot even drink water without her throat swelling shut and reacts to her own tears is writing a ''long awaited'' book about her allergy called ''It's Only Water''

https://socialnewsdaily.com/75296/woman-possesses-fatal-water-allergy/

Here's an earlier article on her from when she was 8 https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUST+ONE+CUP+OF+WATER+COULD+KILL+LITTLE+HEIDI%3B+Girl%27s+deadly+allergy...-a061152595

She not only reacts to her own sweat and tears but she also has an extreme internal reaction to water when she drinks it, such as her throat closing up. There are news articles on her since she was eight years old, such as the second article I provided.

Here is a very recent separate case which is nearly identical and it made the headlines https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6185043/Teenager-19-allergic-TEARS-breaks-hives-touches-water.html

She also cannot drink water, because when she does, it causes ''agonizing sores'' in her mouth, so she only drinks milk. Her own tears cause her to break out in hives because her immune system sees the H20 molecule as foreign.

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2018, 01:38:59 PM »

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2018, 01:53:55 PM »
https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,50465.0.html

I doubt it's a hoax because there's government medical websites saying that it's a real thing https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438944/

That article does not describe any of the symptoms from the tabloids. That is akin to saying aliens from Mars are real because pilots report UFOs.
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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2018, 01:55:53 PM »
https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,50465.0.html

I doubt it's a hoax because there's government medical websites saying that it's a real thing https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438944/

That article does not describe any of the symptoms from the tabloids. That is akin to saying aliens from Mars are real because pilots report UFOs.

Quote from the ncbi article -

'' He also complained of pruritic erythematous changes, with swelling of the lips and oral cavity, after drinking water.''

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2018, 02:02:08 PM »
Sometimes water literally oozes out of my skin. That doesn't happen with soda.
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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2018, 02:02:35 PM »
https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,50465.0.html

I doubt it's a hoax because there's government medical websites saying that it's a real thing https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438944/

That article does not describe any of the symptoms from the tabloids. That is akin to saying aliens from Mars are real because pilots report UFOs.

Quote from the ncbi article -

'' He also complained of pruritic erythematous changes, with swelling of the lips and oral cavity, after drinking water.''

Which is not agonizing sores.

It seems like you've made up your mind and are not asking a question, but rather telling us all about the wonderful thing you read in the tabloids.
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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2018, 02:09:45 PM »
https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,50465.0.html

I doubt it's a hoax because there's government medical websites saying that it's a real thing https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438944/

That article does not describe any of the symptoms from the tabloids. That is akin to saying aliens from Mars are real because pilots report UFOs.

Quote from the ncbi article -

'' He also complained of pruritic erythematous changes, with swelling of the lips and oral cavity, after drinking water.''

Which is not agonizing sores.

It seems like you've made up your mind and are not asking a question, but rather telling us all about the wonderful thing you read in the tabloids.

Whose to say they don't have a much more severe case?

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2018, 03:08:08 PM »
Sometimes water literally oozes out of my skin. That doesn't happen with soda.

Pardon?

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2018, 03:32:23 PM »
https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,50465.0.html

I doubt it's a hoax because there's government medical websites saying that it's a real thing https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438944/

That article does not describe any of the symptoms from the tabloids. That is akin to saying aliens from Mars are real because pilots report UFOs.

Quote from the ncbi article -

'' He also complained of pruritic erythematous changes, with swelling of the lips and oral cavity, after drinking water.''

Which is not agonizing sores.

It seems like you've made up your mind and are not asking a question, but rather telling us all about the wonderful thing you read in the tabloids.

Whose to say they don't have a much more severe case?

Show me the medical literature on more severe reactions instead of tabloids and we'll have something to go on.
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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2018, 03:35:33 PM »
https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,50465.0.html

I doubt it's a hoax because there's government medical websites saying that it's a real thing https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438944/

That article does not describe any of the symptoms from the tabloids. That is akin to saying aliens from Mars are real because pilots report UFOs.

Quote from the ncbi article -

'' He also complained of pruritic erythematous changes, with swelling of the lips and oral cavity, after drinking water.''

Which is not agonizing sores.

It seems like you've made up your mind and are not asking a question, but rather telling us all about the wonderful thing you read in the tabloids.

Whose to say they don't have a much more severe case?

Show me the medical literature on more severe reactions instead of tabloids and we'll have something to go on.

I already showed you a Biomed site case report which included swelling of the mouth, lips and throat after drinking water. I don't see why someone couldn't have a more severe version of this. Can you explain why the patient in the Biomed Institute case report had swelling of the throat after drinking water?

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2018, 08:54:29 PM »
bumping cause it hasnt got many good replies so far

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2018, 08:49:39 AM »
Isn't everything in the body made up of 70% and more of water.

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2018, 08:24:12 PM »
Isn't everything in the body made up of 70% and more of water.

This is the first thing I thought of. An allergy to water seems like a ridiculous concept.

More likely it's a reaction to some substance dissolved within the water, or maybe some sort of autoimmune reaction.

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Re: Is the water molecule really an allergen?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2018, 12:49:50 AM »
The only thing I can think of that would make it possible is cold urticaria, in which low temperatures cause the degranulation of mast cells, resulting in swelling.  If the water was very cold, then I suppose drinking water could produce it in a susceptible person.  But it wouldn’t be an allergic reaction.  No allergen is involved.
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