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Re: Episode #696
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2018, 04:10:51 PM »
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Re: Episode #696
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2018, 04:47:27 PM »
I was stunned that Steve used Bhopal as a SoF item. I had always assumed that it was a universally known name, like Chernobyl, Katrina, or Fukushima.

Yeah, me too.  Although I misremembered the company involved. 

It made me wonder what the proper table talk would be if you know for sure one of the items is science.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2018, 01:59:15 PM »
I was stunned that Steve used Bhopal as a SoF item. I had always assumed that it was a universally known name, like Chernobyl, Katrina, or Fukushima.

Yeah, me too.  Although I misremembered the company involved. 

It made me wonder what the proper table talk would be if you know for sure one of the items is science.

Same. There's probably a rule among them to not let on if they've read about it.

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2018, 06:36:06 PM »
I was stunned that Steve used Bhopal as a SoF item. I had always assumed that it was a universally known name, like Chernobyl, Katrina, or Fukushima.

Yeah, me too.  Although I misremembered the company involved. 

It made me wonder what the proper table talk would be if you know for sure one of the items is science.

Same. There's probably a rule among them to not let on if they've read about it.

From time to time one of them does say "yeah, I totally read this one".
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2018, 07:01:38 PM »
I was stunned that Steve used Bhopal as a SoF item. I had always assumed that it was a universally known name, like Chernobyl, Katrina, or Fukushima.

Yeah, me too.  Although I misremembered the company involved. 

It made me wonder what the proper table talk would be if you know for sure one of the items is science.

Same. There's probably a rule among them to not let on if they've read about it.

From time to time one of them does say "yeah, I totally read this one".
And then sometimes they still get it wrong.


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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2018, 07:18:06 PM »
I was stunned that Steve used Bhopal as a SoF item. I had always assumed that it was a universally known name, like Chernobyl, Katrina, or Fukushima.

Yeah, me too.  Although I misremembered the company involved. 

It made me wonder what the proper table talk would be if you know for sure one of the items is science.

Same. There's probably a rule among them to not let on if they've read about it.

From time to time one of them does say "yeah, I totally read this one".
And then sometimes they still get it wrong.

Yeah that's when they say "I totally read this one but I only skimmed it and I don't remember the specific detail that you're calling out!"
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2018, 07:43:58 PM »
I highly recommend the book To Engineer is Human by Henry Petroski.  It focuses on the role of failure in successful design and covers a number of specific incidents like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and the Hyatt Skyway collapse. 

While listening to the episode, I experienced a false memory, remembering seeing the skyway collapse on TV news in the early 80s.  Clearly, my memory missfiring as I was in diapers when it happened.

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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2018, 08:33:15 PM »
I highly recommend the book To Engineer is Human by Henry Petroski.  It focuses on the role of failure in successful design and covers a number of specific incidents like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and the Hyatt Skyway collapse. 

While listening to the episode, I experienced a false memory, remembering seeing the skyway collapse on TV news in the early 80s.  Clearly, my memory missfiring as I was in diapers when it happened.

I remembered it quite well and knew this one.  There was also a Nova episode about it and a couple TV documentaries, maybe that's what you're remembering?
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2018, 10:21:10 PM »
There was a small Union Carbide facility in my otherwise dainty hometown of Sudbury, Massachusetts, so the Bhopal disaster really stuck with me too.

Eerily enough, in 1977 Leonard Nimoy narrated a safety film for Union Carbide, "" [20:31] (yeah, a nice easy-to-remember title…). It starts with four fictional accounts of horrific future disasters due to negligence. (The second part is about DOT/HAZMAT paperwork and procedures, now that everyone is sick to their stomachs and motivated to comply.)

They don't show any gore, but his narrative of how the victims (many of them children) died against scenes of them happily going about how their lives would have been is pretty chilling.

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2018, 09:20:20 AM »
I remembered it quite well and knew this one.  There was also a Nova episode about it and a couple TV documentaries, maybe that's what you're remembering?

At this distance, who knows, that could very well be it.  I'm suspect my reading of To Engineer is Human in the 90s also played a role in this memory.   All I can say is that when Steve was reading Truth or Fiction I thought that part of the reason for this being the fiction was that I remembered seeing it on the news in the early 80s...

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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2018, 07:42:47 PM »
I was stunned that Steve used Bhopal as a SoF item. I had always assumed that it was a universally known name, like Chernobyl, Katrina, or Fukushima.

Yeah, me too.  Although I misremembered the company involved. 

It made me wonder what the proper table talk would be if you know for sure one of the items is science.

Same. There's probably a rule among them to not let on if they've read about it.

Yeah. Kinda made me feel old, because I remembered it and thought, How young are these people that they don't immediately remember Bhopal? Then realized that they don't have to be very young to not remember it.
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Re: Episode #696
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2018, 08:51:23 PM »

Yeah. Kinda made me feel old, because I remembered it and thought, How young are these people that they don't immediately remember Bhopal? Then realized that they don't have to be very young to not remember it.

Indeed, I had read about it several places; years before I was born. Didn't remember key details. Didn't even remember that it was a gas—I imagine recalling/guessing water table poisoning. But as one of the guests pointed out, the numbers could have easily been fudged to make it a trick item.

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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2018, 08:45:13 PM »
I'm disappointed that Evan failed to make an "Everything's up to date in Kansas City" joke.

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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2018, 10:40:05 PM »
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Just curious why this thread is pinned.