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Reading habits and diversity
« on: November 12, 2018, 10:52:12 AM »
I know it came up in one thread or another; a chat about making a decision to try to read more authors outside of your particular demographic.  Outside of following specific authors, I usually don't make a point of picking a book based on the author's identity.  Half the time, unless it's an author I know, I don't even look at their name long enough for it to matter.  I read a history book on Women in the Whiskey industry and just found out today it was written by a white man.


Anyway, this has stuck with me since that thread.  Being that we're nearing the end of the year...and I'm bored at work today, I decided to go through my list of books I've read this year so far and see how they break down in demographics.  Since I didn't feel like trying to look up an author's sexuality, I didn't break anything down by that (although I happen to know a few specific authors are gay).  I'm assuming cisgender unless specifically identified.  I read Julia Serano's excellent "Whipping Girl" about her experiences, so I know she's transgender; but I'm not sure how to go about looking for others I might have read along the way.


This year, so far, I've read seven books by white females, one book by a black male (Bryan Stevenson), and 38 books by white men.  Nearly half of the books by women were by Mary Roach...and I re-read the Wheel of Time this year so Robert Jordan takes up a big chunk of the white men category.


So, I've been leveraging my wish list in Amazon to try to set up for upcoming reads.  I've been reading a mix of fiction and non-fiction.  I've got a load of books from a Humble Bundle to read, and got a great deal on a Brandon Sanderson trilogy.  I've also bought N. K. Jemisin first book of the "Broken Earth" trilogy.  I also know I want to read Tyson's new book on astrophysics and the military.  But I'm also thinking I need to take gender and race in account when picking out more books? Jemisin and Tyson above are PoC but that's not why I picked them out (I always end up reading Tyson books and have been hearing great things about Jemisin's trilogy).




Anyway, should I bother at all?  Does it matter?  I mean, reading Serano and Stevenson were eye-opening about problems outside of my world...but those are non-fiction books about those topics.  Does reading an author based on demographics actually make a difference when the subject is not about their world?  I don't think any book by Mary Roach tells me anything about female authors; and I don't know that the same book couldn't have been written by a male with the same results (or as same as being from a different author could be).
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Re: Reading habits and diversity
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 03:24:02 PM »
I have never been able to find a woman author who clicked with me. I've sampled Tabitha King (I'm a huge fan of Stephen), Anne McCaffrey, Anne Rice, Naomi Novak and a few others but was never impressed enough to read more than a book or two from each. My favorite male authors fill multiple shelves in my library.

Does that make me sexist?  I'm predominately a science-fiction, alternate history, historical fiction, military fiction reader.  Granted those are pretty male dominated, testosterone filled genres. Favorite authors include Harry Turtledove, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Larry Niven, Harlan Ellison, John Scalzi,  Arthur C. Clarke, S.M. Stirling, Robert J. Sawyer, to name a pretty diverse few. Haven't found a female author that I enjoy as much as any of them. I did love Dian Duane Star Trek novels, the few ST novels that weren't total wastes of time.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2018, 05:54:27 PM »
Beat me to it, Calinthalus.  I was going to make a thread like this eventually.

28 books so far this year,
8 of which are authored of co-authored by women
2 books by black women, and 1 book by a white woman that is explicitly about racism
1? books by LGBTQ authors
0 books by non-American/European authors (finally squeezed in a Russian at least!)

Looking back to 2013 when I started tracking stuff on Goodreads, it was 38/40 white heterosexual American/European males.  So my mission to diversify my reading material has been somewhat successful.

I'll admit that it's tricky to find female authors, particularly for fiction, where I feel compelled to read all of their popular works.  There's women writing nonfiction that I think are phenomenal - Naomi Oreskes, Rebecca Skloot, Laurie Garrett, Doris Kearns-Goodwin, but no fiction authors where I really get hooked.  Haven't looked that hard though. 

At some point I'll post any of my "must read" books about racism or feminism.  He's a bit overhyped at this point but I still think Ta-Nehisi Coates is a good starting point for learning how things look to non-white people.  Don't have a good primer for feminism.

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Re: Reading habits and diversity
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2018, 05:55:26 PM »
I have never been able to find a woman author who clicked with me. I've sampled Tabitha King (I'm a huge fan of Stephen), Anne McCaffrey, Anne Rice, Naomi Novak and a few others but was never impressed enough to read more than a book or two from each. My favorite male authors fill multiple shelves in my library.

Does that make me sexist?  I'm predominately a science-fiction, alternate history, historical fiction, military fiction reader.  Granted those are pretty male dominated, testosterone filled genres. Favorite authors include Harry Turtledove, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Larry Niven, Harlan Ellison, John Scalzi,  Arthur C. Clarke, S.M. Stirling, Robert J. Sawyer, to name a pretty diverse few. Haven't found a female author that I enjoy as much as any of them. I did love Dian Duane Star Trek novels, the few ST novels that weren't total wastes of time.

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2018, 01:23:57 AM »
Sex/Race/Age/Sexual Preference etc are not something I consider when choosing a book. Just whether it sounds good or not.
The only thing that will stop me reading an author is if I find their statements, views or actions unpalatable. I will never again read Orson Scott Card or Marion Zimmer Bradley.

So far this year I have read 30 books:
16 by Men, 13 by Women and 1 by an author that chooses to identify as non-binary gender.

5 were written by POC. 4 women and 1 non-binary gender.
At least 1 book was written by a gay author.

My favourite book I read this year was written by a black, lesbian, non-binary gender author (An Unkindness of Ghosts by Rivers Solomon)

This is how they describe themselves in their bio on their own website:
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Rivers Solomon is a dyke, a Trekkie, a wannabe cyborg queen, a trash princex, a communist, a butch, a femme, a feminist, a she-beast, a rootworker, a mother, a daughter, a diabetic, and a refugee of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2018, 08:49:34 PM »
Just started One Person, No Vote by Carol Anderson, about voter suppression.  If I start making white genocide jokes next week you can blame this book.

Now that I think about it, this is a 3 year streak of reading soul-crushing political books in late November as the days get shorter and gloomier.   :-\

EDIT:  Made it all the way to page 37 before screaming obscenities.  80s Jeff Sessions should burn in hell for eternity.

EDIT 2:  F*%# Roberts and Rehnquist.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2018, 09:08:24 PM »
Just started One Person, No Vote by Carol Anderson, about voter suppression.  If I start making white genocide jokes next week you can blame this book.

Now that I think about it, this is a 3 year streak of reading soul-crushing political books in late November as the days get shorter and gloomier.   :-\
Might I suggest Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson?  Just to keep the trend alive.
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Re: Reading habits and diversity
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2019, 06:28:31 AM »
Bumping this a bit.  Since it's February, I've decided that after I finish the book I'm currently reading (SGU book) here in a day or so, I'm going to read black authors the rest of the month.  I had already purchased quite a few over the last couple of months that I haven't gotten to yet.  I'm planning on reading Rivers Solomon's first book, as well a few Nnedi Okorafor novellas.  I have been meaning to read The New Jim Crow for a long time now and haven't gotten to it...this would be the proper time to get to it.  Dunno how many I'll get in.
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Re: Reading habits and diversity
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 12:43:41 AM »
If you are interested in Sci-Fi/Fantasy, then keep your eye out for Marlon James' new book Black Leopard, Red Wolf which comes out on Tuesday.

James' Man Booker winning A Brief History of Seven Killings is one of the best books I've ever read. I'm interested to see how his genre fiction compares to his previous work in lit fic.

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 06:37:50 AM »
I've seen that title come up in a bunch of my news sources as a book to look out for.  I put it in my Amazon list only a week or so ago.  The concept was really something I had never seen before so I'm looking forward to getting to it.


Amazon tends to put books on sale at seemingly random times.  So, I put books in a specific wish list that I check at random intervals, but on average a couple of times a week.  This week they had that Rivers Solomon book An Unkindness of Ghosts on sale for three bucks (2.99) so I picked it up.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 05:40:47 PM »
I read books on subjects that interest me.  I have no interest whatsoever in the author's "identity."
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 11:45:11 PM »
I read books on subjects that interest me.  I have no interest whatsoever in the author's "identity."

That's too bad. If you consciously seek out diverse perspectives, you can learn a lot, and become interested in topics that you hadn't even thought of before.

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2019, 06:17:07 AM »
I read books on subjects that interest me.  I have no interest whatsoever in the author's "identity."

That's too bad. If you consciously seek out diverse perspectives, you can learn a lot, and become interested in topics that you hadn't even thought of before.
I don't think valid perspectives correlate with "identity" as much as you do.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2019, 07:57:29 AM »
So you think people that aren't like you don't have a different perspective, or do you just think they aren't valid?
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2019, 08:17:16 AM »
So you think people that aren't like you don't have a different perspective, or do you just think they aren't valid?

I think that the truth does not care about one‘s „identity“.


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