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Offline moj

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australia to break encryption
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:10:31 AM »
WTF Australia? I had not heard about it but am shocked it went through. How can they try to legally force companies to create tools to break there own encryption. This is insane and very surprised it's not been a bigger story world wide?

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/7/18130391/encryption-law-australia-global-impact

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The Australian government has passed new legislation that would allow law enforcement authorities to force tech companies to hand over user information, even if it’s protected by end-to-end encryption (via BBC). The Assistance and Access Bill 2018 has been criticized by Apple as well as other technology companies and academics who argue that the legislation will weaken the data security of all Australians, with a reach that could jeopardize the data of companies, citizens, and societies around the world.

At its core, the legislation allows law enforcement agencies to compel companies to hand over user information, even if it’s protected by end-to-end encryption. If companies do not have the ability to intercept encrypted information, they can be forced to build tools to do so.
The problem, as human rights lawyer Lizzie O’Shea points out, is that creating tools to weaken encryption for one purpose weakens it for all purposes. Tools created to intercept encrypted messages between suspected terrorists undermine the digital security of anyone who relies on that encryption for their security, whether they’re buying things online, managing their bank account, or communicating with personal or professional contacts.

“The truth is that there is simply no way to create tools to undermine encryption without jeopardizing digital security and eroding individual rights and freedoms. Hackers with bad intentions will do their utmost to take advantage of any such tools that companies are forced to provide the government.”

O’Shea suggests that once these tools exist, then it would be easy for Australian authorities to share them with their counterparts in allied nations. Australia is part of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing agreement, which also includes Britain, Canada, New Zealand, and the United States.

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Re: australia to break encryption
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2018, 12:18:27 PM »
I'm not surprised that one of these governments decided to pass it, the UK have been talking about this for a while. But I wonder how many companies will go along with it and basically decide not to do encryption anymore.

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O’Shea suggests that once these tools exist, then it would be easy for Australian authorities to share them with their counterparts in allied nations. Australia is part of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing agreement, which also includes Britain, Canada, New Zealand, and the United States.

Of course. As she's pointing to, once that's happened the encryption has already been broken, and anyone can use the "tools" to get around it, not limited to state actors or allied governments.
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Re: australia to break encryption
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 04:09:31 PM »
What pisses me off, is that the party I support (Labor) voted it through.  >:(
Labor originally wanted to amend the bill, but dropped those.

We all knew the Libs and Nationals would vote for it.

This got voted FOR and the bill to get refugees off Nauru for humanitarian and medical reasons got voted AGAINST

This all happened on the last day of Parliament before the pollies go on their Xmas holidays.
They were more interested in pissing off home than doing their job properly.

The encryption law will not achieve anything. If Apple can tell the FBI and NSA to fuck off, then what chance does ASIO have  ;)
Could you imagine the Chinese tech companies giving Australia a back door into their tech?

The scariest thing that could potentially happen is that we (Australians) may be unable to buy some products.
Tech companies will choose to not sell their tech here, rather that break the encryption.

Amazon won't mail products to Australian customers because of our weird tax laws.
Video Games are delayed or not sold here because of the red tape required to get a rating.

Aussies getting fucked again because off our stupid laws




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Re: australia to break encryption
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2018, 04:13:16 PM »
My suggestion: Apple and other companies should develop a new, weak encryption for devices in countries that pass these stupid laws, and give the governments the tools to break them, while retaining strong encryption for the rest of the world. Then when people's devices start getting hacked right and left in those countries, maybe they'll see how stupid they were.

The underlying problem is that laws are written by people who are utterly and completely ignorant of all things technological.
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Re: australia to break encryption
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2018, 04:26:05 PM »
My suggestion: Apple and other companies should develop a new, weak encryption for devices in countries that pass these stupid laws, and give the governments the tools to break them, while retaining strong encryption for the rest of the world. Then when people's devices start getting hacked right and left in those countries, maybe they'll see how stupid they were.

The underlying problem is that laws are written by people who are utterly and completely ignorant of all things technological.

No, the tech companies should stand strong and We Aussies should tell our Representatives and Senators how stupid they are.

Labor has given the coalition a list of "suggested" amendments to consider over the holidays

Don't worry our Representatives will be hearing what we want amended and what we want thrown out when it is brought up again in February.

 

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