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How close are we to deep dive / full immersion VR?
« on: December 08, 2018, 04:13:52 PM »
Will it happen within our lifetime ( in 30-70 years)?

By using Elon Musk's Neuralink (Neural Lace 2039???) ,NerveGear, exo-skeletons, OpenWorld VR maybe?

And if we were to achieve this would anyone still want to live in the real world apart from people who are maintaining the system and certain religious groups?(or at least take breaks from full dive VR)

And is VR a replacement for reality? As in will people still want to physically travel and go outside?

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Re: How close are we to deep dive / full immersion VR?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2018, 06:58:33 PM »
Full VR indistinguishable from reality. Not in my lifetime  ???

And if we were to achieve this would anyone still want to live in the real world apart from people who are maintaining the system and certain religious groups?(or at least take breaks from full dive VR)

If everyone's in it, then who's paying for it and who's doing all the other work required i.e. food production, mining resources, building power grids to run it etc

I see full immersive VR as something we'd do for relaxation or fun. VR holidays and experiences.
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Re: How close are we to deep dive / full immersion VR?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2018, 08:27:41 PM »
Those religious groups could hook up their children and others to VR to run a world where the supernatural becomes natural.

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Re: How close are we to deep dive / full immersion VR?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2018, 01:30:33 PM »
Will it happen within our lifetime ( in 30-70 years)?

By using Elon Musk's Neuralink (Neural Lace 2039???) ,NerveGear, exo-skeletons, OpenWorld VR maybe?

And if we were to achieve this would anyone still want to live in the real world apart from people who are maintaining the system and certain religious groups?(or at least take breaks from full dive VR)

And is VR a replacement for reality? As in will people still want to physically travel and go outside?


From your post, I gather that by “full-immersion” and “deep dive” you mean a kind of VR that’s indistinguishable from reality, with all the senses involved, including touch and smell, and not just today’s visual and auditory VR.

I don’t think we’ll ever have that.

But from comments by Steve and others on the show, I gather that visual VR has become so good that many people find it impossible to take a step that inside the VR would be fatal even though at one level they know that in reality it’s just a step within their living room.

I’d love to try that out, but not enough to buy the system. I think that what you’re describing is pure sci-fi/fantasy.

There are certainly people who get sucked into gaming (like other pastimes) and the better VR gets, the more people will spend too much of their lives in it.
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Re: How close are we to deep dive / full immersion VR?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2018, 12:06:25 PM »
It doesn't have to be indistinguishable from real life.  It just has to be comfortably immersive. The movie Ready Player One is a good example.  They have haptic suits that let you feel things within reason, but its not like they are simulating smells or G force or anything like that.  Also, the animation within the VR world isn't indistinguishable from real life.  It is somewhat cartoony, but still extremely immersive.

I think that most people will still have day jobs in the real world and night lives in VR.  Those will be the people that maintain society's ability to have a virtual world.  But, there will also be a ton of people who make real money in the virtual world as crafters, tour guides, VR life coaches, game hosts, celebrities, etc.

I think that within the next 20 years or so, we could have at least a third of the developed world logging into VR worlds after work.  Most wouldn't have full haptic capability, but goggles and gloves would be standard.

Another thing I think they will have to do is allow for very precise movement control that gloves just won't provide.  People will need accessories like physical controllers and keyboards for at least some tasks within VR.  I just can't see someone doing word processing in VR unless we think of something we haven't thought of yet to make it practical.
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Re: How close are we to deep dive / full immersion VR?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2018, 02:10:56 PM »
I think a third of the developed world is a very high estimate. Advanced VR is probably the future of gaming, and will probably draw more people into gaming than are seriously into it now, but far less than a third. It could also be the future of porn, but won’t replace real sex.

I gather that motion sickness is still a drawback of VR and if they don’t solve that, adoption will be much more limited.
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