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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2019, 10:47:22 AM »
I was thinking about a porn site targeted to parents who want to give their kids access but don't want to worry about taboo subjects . Kind of a porn intro site for teens with positive interviews at the beginning of each scene explaining what is happening, condom usage, nothing too extreme, everyone is staring at their phones during sex, cosplay, stuff kids can relate too. Of course you dont want them getting into cosplay too early as that stuff can get really expensive.

I guess you would be breaking the law by giving them access. They are breaking the law by being on the site with or without your consent, there could be serious repercussions if they get caught by the wrong person and that is certainly something that should be discussed. You know they are probably going to break the rules so you better teach them security and encryption too.  Dam thats a lot of crap you parents have to worry about.

All my parents had to do was hide their 3 VHS tapes and keep me off cinemax after 12am (they failed at both, I still remember all 3 titles). They did hand me a Linda Carter poster for the cosplay.

Yeah, I can see that causing massive outrage. Despite my opinion being that it makes at least as much sense for teenagers to use porn as it does for adults. Since they're the ones undergoing puberty, and it's a much safer way of exploring the topic, or a better outlet, than having sex is.

I would rather focus efforts on stopping those who stigmatize porn and try to eliminate it. If the problem with porn is that it causes misconceptions about sex, then education makes that problem go away. Talk as much about it as possible rather than try to make it even more taboo. And rather than relying on parents, it should be part of mandatory sex education. Watch out for those fundamentalist teachers twisting the topic same as they do when they teach kids that condoms make pregnancy and disease more likely.

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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2019, 10:53:05 AM »
When they're ready maybe they'll be attracted to explicit sites like this, #realworldsex

https://www.makelovenotporn.com/

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I enjoy hearing Cindy Gallop speak but have never accessed her site. Can't speak about the content.

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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2019, 01:05:50 PM »
Goddamn that sounds hot.

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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2019, 04:04:53 PM »
I'll have to check that out, I'm curious what porn without porn cliche is like.

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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2019, 01:14:00 AM »
I'm not a parent so you can skip this post. I did help in raising my two nephews and niece (if that counts for anything), but porn, sex, whatever never came up. And really, if it did, I probably ended the conversation quickly with something like "I don't know," a lie of course. My feeling is that parents need to decide at what age it is reasonable and necessary to explain to their children what sex is, how it works, being safe, and maybe throw in there what pornography is and how pornography is not a source of information. I feel that age is whenever kids start asking questions. The instinct is often to shutdown such questions immediately, which may negatively affect your child's view of sex and related topics as a taboo subject. I don't think it should be.

I honestly don't understand why these subjects (innate to every human being) are walked around or considered indecent/taboo to talk about with children (future bearers of children themselves), seemingly the ones who should know. I don't like the idea of keeping children in the dark about their body. This strange idea (to me) of waiting until they're "old enough" to have "the talk" is ridiculous because it means children, in cases aligning with that idea I call strange, have to wait to what? 12, 13, 14? (typically around there I think) to know about their body. I don't get it. It is just biology. It doesn't have to be this big secret. I don't mean bombard your kids with talk about sex, but at the least answer their questions honestly and informatively. Make sure they know what they need to, in an open way.

I'll have to check that out, I'm curious what porn without porn cliche is like.

 It's like porn, but boring.
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2019, 05:58:27 AM »
7) I wouldn't give them the spiel about how porn is fake and these women and men are exploited unless they were old enough to get the nuance of that argument.

If you listen to porn stars, some say that they were exploited but others say that they were not.
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2019, 08:20:27 AM »
It's like porn, but boring.
In what way?

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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2019, 08:36:55 AM »
It's like porn, but boring.
In what way?

Only in that it doesn't appeal to my sexuality. Also, I was joking, sorry.
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2019, 09:15:39 AM »
Completely realistic documentation of sex can limit the fantasy. If your main interest in porn is as a voyeur that might be quite satisfying. I think a significant part of the appeal of porn is that it is fantastical. In that sense it scratches the same itch as any other fantastical media like the MCU or Ringworld. I really love those movies, but I do not want to be one of those protagonists. I want to imagine being one of them - for a little while.
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2019, 11:57:18 AM »
At least not be them without also having their superpowers, or different laws of physics.

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2019, 12:17:43 PM »
That applies to characters in both porn and the MCU, yes.
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2019, 06:04:58 PM »
My feeling is that parents need to decide at what age it is reasonable and necessary to explain to their children what sex is, how it works, being safe, and maybe throw in there what pornography is and how pornography is not a source of information. I feel that age is whenever kids start asking questions.

The only problem with that approach is that by the time they start asking questions, they already know about it and have started to form some conclusions by themselves. Ideally you want to pre-empt their questions so that the conclusions they draw aren't too badly influenced by what they have seen.
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2019, 06:33:09 PM »
... I honestly don't understand why these subjects (innate to every human being) are walked around or considered indecent/taboo to talk about with children...

I blame the western monotheistic religions: Every normal adolescent has a strong sex drive. Religion tells them that their sex drive is sinful so it can threaten them with hell as a means of controlling them. All the way back to the O.T., Adam and Eve are said to have been ashamed of their nakedness after they had first sinned.

The sex taboo was an invention of religion, and religion continues to be the biggest promoter of the idea that sex is dirty and bad and should only be for reproduction.
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2019, 09:33:00 AM »
My feeling is that parents need to decide at what age it is reasonable and necessary to explain to their children what sex is, how it works, being safe, and maybe throw in there what pornography is and how pornography is not a source of information. I feel that age is whenever kids start asking questions.

The only problem with that approach is that by the time they start asking questions, they already know about it and have started to form some conclusions by themselves. Ideally you want to pre-empt their questions so that the conclusions they draw aren't too badly influenced by what they have seen.

I've heard the best thing is not to have "the talk" but rather a series of talks basically starting as soon as possible, each time getting into more details. 
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Re: Minor Question for Parents - Porn?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2019, 10:38:12 AM »
We've been answering questions honestly and clearly - but not providing additional information that would raise new questions the kid isn't ready for. 'Zilla is 8 now, so I've already run down what a lot of the adolescent physical changes will look like. We haven't talked about the emotional changes and hormonal hurricane yet. Next on the list unless the kid asks other questions.
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