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Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2019, 11:50:14 pm »
Nope

It is the best show on TV right now.

What series that came before GoT is as great?

Barney Miller
All in the Family
MASH
Twilight Zone
Masterpiece Theater
Saturday Night Live
Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman
Hill Street Blues
Sesame Street
The Muppets
Mr Rogers
Rockford files
Cheers
The Simpsons
Twin Peaks
and on and on and on

You cant compare todays TV to 70s TV when we only had 3 channels and PBS. Or any other time period. What is "the greatest"?  I don't know but its not GOT and I say this while being one of its biggest fans but if I had a choice between GOT and Breaking Bad, BB would win.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2019, 12:21:34 am »
Is it the greatest HBO series?

Nope

Deadwood is the greatest then Rome or Sopranos I can’t decide which.

Is it the greatest battle scene on TV (pick one)

Yes


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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2019, 12:31:02 am »
Shit no.  Better call Saul is spanking GoT's ass everyday of the week. GoT is not even the best show on the air right now.  I doubt it's even in the top five.  But I sure do love it.
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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2019, 03:36:30 am »
No way. The series have been going downhill very fast since season 3 and by now, the writing is completely incoherent and characterisation is crazy inconsistent. The most recent season was objectively terrible.

It also turned a grounded story with consequences into a high fantasy schlock were the plucky heroes are saved in the last second if they screw up instead of g tting killed.

Also, it is rich to credit the show for the worls building that was done by the author of the books.

The best show on tv right now is probably The Good Place.

Aren't the plucky heroes often saved at the last second despite screwing up in "The Good Place"?

Yes, but unlike GoT, it does not go against the world that was previously built.

Plucky heroes getting away with crap is fine in itself. But you can't have a show that starts in a harsh, semi-realistic manner where mistakes are punished hard by other players and then have the Battle of the Bastards.

I loved that episode. 
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Little finger coming in at the last moment was well set up, and then in turn created its own tension which resulted in another fine moment (his death).

Plus, seriously, that was one hell of a battle, and yes their were consequences (the death of a Stark).
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It made absolutely no sense in any way:

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For some reason, Jon becomes the leader after deserting the Watch (the show never bothered to explain how death may be a way out) and despite there being actual Starks around.
A secret Vale army shows up at  Moat Cailin, one of the most important fortifications in the North, but they manage to keep it a secret. They are, in fact, so good at keeping it a secret that Sansa just decides not to mention a massive allied force when trying to convince Jon not to attack
Jon decides, against all advice that he will attack a much larger Bolton army because it might snow.
The battle goes even worse than expected as Jon abandons the army and charges the enemy alone because someone is killed who he never even spoke to during the show.
Jon Snow manages to get all his army slaughtered, but of course he survives becuase he is the protagonist.
In the last second, the Vale army appears like Gandalf at Helm's Deep and saves the day.
Jon, after doing everything in his power to get himself and his men killed only to be saved by the actual heir of Winterfell is elected king (which is apparently a thing) and treated as a hero.

It is true that Rickon died, but that was a meaningless death as he was never a proper character in the show.

On the other hand, Jon acted stupid, got all his men killed, is saved by a miracle and is hailed as a hero and named king. Such a thing would never have happened in Season 1. There, if people made a small mistake (Ned Stark spoke once to one wrong person), they paid the price. In Season 6, people can go galavanting around knowing that they are protected by plot armour.

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BtW, I don't understand how come The Wire has not been mentioned in this  thread yet.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2019, 03:41:55 am »

BtW, I don't understand how come The Wire has not been mentioned in this  thread yet.


I think its on a top list but I personally place it below GOT and most of the others (HBO stuff) I know some people think its the best HBO show, just not me.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2019, 04:19:12 am »
From an obsessive fan who was in heaven with every episode of season 1, I now dont really care when the new season starts, other than to see how it ends and get it over with.
Im the same with the books at this point.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2019, 11:16:24 am »
It is not fair to compare GoT to older shows, but we aren't talking about fairness.  If you compare GoT to Hill Street Blues without regard to when it was made, then GoT is definitely "greater".  If we compare them based on other shows that existed during the time, then yeah, it has a ton of competition.

Based on what people have said here, it looks like GoT definitely isn't the best TV show of all time.  I think maybe it is the most epic TV show of all time when it comes to the scope of it, but that doesn't mean it is the best.

They better not screw up the ending, though, or it will go down as the biggest fail of all time.
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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2019, 11:22:57 am »
It is not fair to compare GoT to older shows, but we aren't talking about fairness.  If you compare GoT to Hill Street Blues without regard to when it was made, then GoT is definitely "greater".  If we compare them based on other shows that existed during the time, then yeah, it has a ton of competition.

Based on what people have said here, it looks like GoT definitely isn't the best TV show of all time.  I think maybe it is the most epic TV show of all time when it comes to the scope of it, but that doesn't mean it is the best.

They better not screw up the ending, though, or it will go down as the biggest fail of all time.

I completely disagree with that. In no way is GOT greater than Hill Street, every show I mentioned above was much greater than GOT.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2019, 11:47:53 am »
Also Sesame street is way more epic than GOT (also much less rapey)

50 years on the air, 77 million people watched the show as children by 2008. 86% of all kindergartners watch it daily.

Im not sure if my math is correct. GOT has a 16 million record but if 86% of the 74 million children in the US (not to mention everywhere else) watch SS that's 63,640,000 viewers in the US.

I'm a sesame seed and proud of it, Both Gordon and Susan explained this to me when I was 10, anyone born in 1969 who watched the show. We were the first to grow up with it.




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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2019, 12:03:01 pm »
I think I enjoyed GOT more on the second viewing.  Is it the best show? Not sure, its pretty good though, I enjoy it and will watch season 8 and hopefully win my GOT fantasy league.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2019, 12:33:34 pm »
I think I enjoyed GOT more on the second viewing.  Is it the best show? Not sure, its pretty good though, I enjoy it and will watch season 8 and hopefully win my GOT fantasy league.

HBO is running past seasons on a daily basis leading up to the season premiere.

Just randomly tuning in for a few moments every now and then I'm noticing so much more detail and foreshadowing in the early seasons than the first time around. I'm thinking I may just try to watch the whole thing from start to finish once it's done.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2019, 01:03:33 pm »
That's what what we did to get ready for season 8. I forgot so much, and yes so much foreshadowing. I remember the first go around thinking some season where weak, but think I was just expecting something different. Upon second viewing everything seemed to flow a lot more cohesively and didn't have any seasons I didn't like. Or maybe it's conditioning? Don't know, don't care, digging it.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2019, 05:19:53 pm »
Game of thrones might not be the greatest TV show of all time, but it is the greatest fantasy series of all time.

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Re: Is "Game of Thrones" the greatest TV show of all time?
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2019, 06:19:58 pm »
Game of thrones might not be the greatest TV show of all time, but it is the greatest fantasy series of all time.

Not much competition for that, though, unless you want to include Star Trek  :P

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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2019, 06:20:52 pm »
Game of thrones might not be the greatest TV show of all time, but it is the greatest fantasy series of all time.

Not much competition for that, though, unless you want to include Star Trek  :P
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