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Notre Dame cathedral fire
« on: April 15, 2019, 01:56:40 PM »
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Notre Dame fire: major incident at historic Paris landmark

City’s fire services say big operation under way as it tackles blaze in French capital



▲ Flames and smoke are seen billowing from the roof of Notre Dame cathedral in Paris. 
Photograph: François Guillot/AFP/Getty Images


Firefighters have rushed to try to contain a fire that has broken out at Paris’s Notre Dame Cathedral, which police said began accidentally and was linked to building work at the site.

Smoke could be seen billowing from the top of the medieval cathedral, considered one of the finest examples of Gothic architecture in France and one of Paris’s most-visited monuments.

Flames leapt into the air beside the two bell towers, said a Reuters correspondent who witnessed the fire.


▲ Flames rising from the landmark French cathedral. Photograph: Pierre Galey/AFP/Getty Images

The fire department said a major operation was underway. A city hall spokesman said the area was being cleared.

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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2019, 02:27:14 PM »
Needs an Eye of Sauron.

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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2019, 02:41:59 PM »
Such a tragedy. I had to stop watching the live news feed.

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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2019, 02:48:51 PM »
I got to spend an afternoon on the roof there about 20 years ago. It was spectacular.
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2019, 02:50:53 PM »
Oh shit, this is absolutely terrible. Though, Cathedrals are massive and very hard to totally destroy. On the other hand, there is the stained glass...

I have the feeling that the company responsible for the renovation won't put this on their portfolio.
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2019, 03:03:25 PM »
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2019, 04:08:33 PM »
Really hate seeing such a historic site damaged so.

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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2019, 05:51:39 PM »
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 06:26:52 PM »
I have read that they managed to save some of it at least and the artifacts have been saved.
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2019, 08:00:46 PM »
The stonework is there, but much of that was already worn by time and pollution, and now it’s been exposed to high temperatures that may cause further crumbling.  The interior looks like it is gutted, the roof is destroyed, and the spire is destroyed.  To reconstruct it preserving as much of the original stonework as possible will cost billions of Euros and probably take decades.
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2019, 01:05:45 AM »
Summary
  • A devastating fire that began on Monday afternoon has destroyed the roof of the 850-year-old UNESCO world heritage landmark, whose spectacular Gothic spire collapsed before the eyes of horrified onlookers.
  • The main structure of Notre Dame, as well as its two towers, has been saved, according to the Paris fire brigade chief.
  • The blaze has been brought under control, firefighters confirmed in the early hours of Tuesday morning. “The fire is completely under control. It is partially extinguished, there are residual fires to put out,” said a spokesman.
  • French president Emmanuel Macron said the worst has been avoided, but warned the fire would likely continue to burn for several days, cautioning: “the battle is not yet totally won”. He praised the courage and professionalism of firefighters.
  • Macron asked the country to commit to rebuilding Notre Dame together, announcing an international fundraising campaign to raise money for the repairs. A site taking online donations has been launched.
  • French billionaire François-Henri Pinault, the chairman and CEO of international luxury group Kering, pledged 100 million euros towards rebuilding Notre Dame, according to a statement.
  • One firefighter was injured in the efforts to save the building.
  • Expressions of support and commiseration have poured in from leaders around the world.

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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2019, 01:20:01 AM »
As I hoped, it is not that bad. Though I still haven't neard anything about the Southern rose window (tne Northern one is reportedly intact). The loss of the partially medieval roof and the 19th century spire is a tragedy, but it has been rather unusual for Notre Dame to survive for so long without a fire.

The good thing is that Medieval architects were always kinda winging it and seriously overbuilt every cathedral, making the walls extremely durable. Notre Dame is also meticulously documented and laser-scanned therefore we know whaf to rebuild and how.

I hope the Catholic Church will dedicate its fabulous wealth to the rebuilding effort, but I won't hold my breath.

Edit: what I found curious was the extremely sensationalised reporting I've seen everywhere. About how the Notre Dame is "destroyed", "burned down" is a "shell" or "gutted", etc. It is none of those things. The wooden roof and the spire are gone, the ceiling caved in at one or two points and there is some damage to one of the towers, but the vast majority of the cathedral, including most of the interior seems to be perfectly intact.

Update: Interior photos:
https://mobile.twitter.com/areinaud/status/1118042483492118528
https://mobile.twitter.com/areinaud/status/1118067215125897221

More confirmation that one of the rose windows is perfectly intact. There is debris on the ground and holes in the roof, but other than the transept, the arches seem to be intact. The function of the transept is to hold up the spire, which is gone, so the structural integrity of the cathedral should be fine. However, the bad news are that the organ is reportedly gone (if true, it wasn't all that old or irreplaceable).
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2019, 07:39:09 AM »
When you see the video of the fire it is amazing what survived the fire. All in all it doesn't look as bad as I feared.
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Re: Notre Dame cathedral fire
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2019, 07:57:06 AM »
When you see the video of the fire it is amazing what survived the fire. All in all it doesn't look as bad as I feared.

The NYT has some great images that show how the damage remained so limited (as far as we are aware at this stage). The highlighted areas are the ones that were made out of wood and susceptible to fire. The rest is mostly stone



 

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