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Episode #720
« on: April 27, 2019, 08:57:45 am »
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 09:06:21 am »
The episode coming up early today, very much appreciated, thanks! :)
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 02:33:25 pm »
Steve pronounced the word "annal" the same as "anal", which is rather unfortunate.  The first "a" should be short, so as to rhyme with "panel".

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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2019, 07:42:54 pm »
Yep - Anals of Psychology (or whatever) really stuck out like a sore thumb. I had to laugh then had to cry because NO ONE jumped in to correct him! Too bad Cara wasn’t on the show - I think she’d have a great laugh at that one.


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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2019, 10:45:39 pm »
On the topic of being alive like that, there was a few scifi things I've seen like this.

There was a episode of I THINK elementary where guys on this drug either hallucinated, or actually were experiencing time at a highly aclerated rate to where a few days/weeks were like months to them.

And a anime called junji ito collection episode 2 the long dream,where very time this guy went to bed it would be sleeping longer, to where he had a entire life in the dream and then woke up the next day and was slowing losing himself.   
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2019, 11:55:37 pm »
On the topic of being alive like that, there was a few scifi things I've seen like this.

There was a episode of I THINK elementary where guys on this drug either hallucinated, or actually were experiencing time at a highly aclerated rate to where a few days/weeks were like months to them.

And a anime called junji ito collection episode 2 the long dream,where very time this guy went to bed it would be sleeping longer, to where he had a entire life in the dream and then woke up the next day and was slowing losing himself.
That makes me think of a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "The Inner Light" where Captain Picard lived out an entire adult lifetime as part of an alien culture in under half an hour; then in the Deep Space 9 ep. "Hard Time" Miles O'Brien got to experience a time-compression… but his experience was not nearly as pleasant.

As for being in virtual solitary confinement for months or years... that's starting to sound pretty good right about now. (Of course if the jailer makes the walls show the Twitter feeds of certain people then maybe I'd be willing to put on the skimpy French maid's uniform and get to work.)

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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2019, 05:14:17 am »
I always thought of falsifiability as a necessary trait of any scientific theory, and this idea has been reiterated many times on the SGU. I picked up Adam Becker's book What Is Real? The Unfinished Quest for the Meaning of Quantum Physics after hearing him on the SGU and on Cara's show. A very interesting section of the book claims that this Popperian notion is outdated, and that many contemporary philosophers of science disagree with it. I'd be interested to hear the rogues' take on some of these arguments (or if they have already done so).

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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2019, 01:02:05 pm »

Climate change voice:

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/frank-capra-warns-of-global-warming-1958

I recognized it immediately (for once in my life). The entire episode is online... and a bit hokey (the interaction between live actors and cartoons doesn't reach the Roger Rabbit level), so I can see why it wasn't well received, but still gives a good overview of what they knew about weather at the time. (Noisy part starts at 50:14.)


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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2019, 10:13:19 pm »
I don't want to re-start the whole pronunciation debate, but I was also quite amused when Steve turned the annals of psychology into something involving butt holes.
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2019, 10:17:06 pm »
There's a story in the Thousand Nights and a Night (a.k.a. The 1,001 Arabian Nights) wherein a guy is put into a magic barrel where he finds himself in an unknown place, finds a job, gets married, has kids, and after many many years is about to die of old age when he's pulled out of the barrel and only minutes have passed. So the theme goes back at least as far as pre-Islamic Arabia.
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2019, 10:50:29 pm »
I don't think I understand why atomic hydrogen wouldn't just react to form molecular hydrogen as it is collapsing into a star. Can someone explain to me why that's impossible?
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2019, 02:49:32 pm »
I don't want to re-start the whole pronunciation debate, but I was also quite amused when Steve turned the annals of psychology into something involving butt holes.

That's about as Freudian as a slip gets.
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2019, 07:02:45 pm »
My response to Ben's letter:

1) "In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms". Stephen Jay Gould

It is not Science's job to draw an immutable  bright line between the possible and the impossible. Reality extended to include such remote possibilities is meaningless chaos.

2) "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" Carl Sagan

3) Science looks for multiple branches of evidence that converge on a truth. Religions like Christianity fracture into thousands of denominations based on the same book. That's not a strong indicator of truth.

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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2019, 07:09:26 pm »
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