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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2019, 08:56:57 AM »
Hey guys, another great episode.  Steve, if you are worried about missing the dark sky event when you are in Aus, come past Canberra again adn I can take you guys out to Lake George to see the Milky Way, Magellanic Clouds, the fuzzyness of the Orion Nebula by eye, Eta Carina and the Southern Cross, Pointers and where Proxima is!  No charge.  ;)


Also, the quick chat about probabilities and how bad "we" are at judging risk, had me remember a "Risk Intelligence" test I did online a little while ago.  It no longer exists at "Projection Point", but if you do a app store search for "Risk IQ" (second app that appears in "play store"), there is the same test in app form.  Very good way to gauge how much we think we know and are willing to attach certainty with.  Very revealing.  If you guys have a good 15mins, give it a try.
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2019, 09:47:22 AM »
Steve pronounced the word "annal" the same as "anal", which is rather unfortunate.  The first "a" should be short, so as to rhyme with "panel".
Yep - Anals of Psychology (or whatever) really stuck out like a sore thumb. I had to laugh then had to cry because NO ONE jumped in to correct him! Too bad Cara wasn’t on the show - I think she’d have a great laugh at that one.


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I don't want to re-start the whole pronunciation debate, but I was also quite amused when Steve turned the annals of psychology into something involving butt holes.

I'm pretty sure that this was a deliberate call-back to a joke from a previous episode.
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2019, 10:21:51 AM »
My response to Ben's letter:

1) "In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms". Stephen Jay Gould

It is not Science's job to draw an immutable  bright line between the possible and the impossible. Reality extended to include such remote possibilities is meaningless chaos.

2) "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" Carl Sagan

3) Science looks for multiple branches of evidence that converge on a truth. Religions like Christianity fracture into thousands of denominations based on the same book. That's not a strong indicator of truth.

I would also add that sure, one could posit a god behind it all. But it is not necessary to do so, it doesn't add anything or explain anything. Therefore there is no point in doing that. It's like suggesting (I did not make up this example myself) that elves inside the walls are part in activating the lights when you push the button. An unnecessary assumption.
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2019, 02:51:48 PM »
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2019, 05:08:12 AM »
Hey guys, another great episode.  Steve, if you are worried about missing the dark sky event when you are in Aus, come past Canberra again adn I can take you guys out to Lake George to see the Milky Way, Magellanic Clouds, the fuzzyness of the Orion Nebula by eye, Eta Carina and the Southern Cross, Pointers and where Proxima is!  No charge.  ;)

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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2019, 08:32:51 AM »
Yep - Anals of Psychology (or whatever) really stuck out like a sore thumb. I had to laugh then had to cry because NO ONE jumped in to correct him! Too bad Cara wasn’t on the show - I think she’d have a great laugh at that one.


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I couldn't get past that either. It might be a regional pronunciation. I'd say it like "ah-nals".
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2019, 11:28:24 AM »
Yep - Anals of Psychology (or whatever) really stuck out like a sore thumb. I had to laugh then had to cry because NO ONE jumped in to correct him! Too bad Cara wasn’t on the show - I think she’d have a great laugh at that one.


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I couldn't get past that either. It might be a regional pronunciation. I'd say it like "ah-nals".

No, it's a call-back to a joke from a previous episode. Steve would pronounce it to rhyme with 'panel.'
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2019, 10:10:53 AM »
No, it's a call-back to a joke from a previous episode. Steve would pronounce it to rhyme with 'panel.'

Perhaps so, but it sure didn't come across that way to me, as a listener. Curious - I don't recall it's previous mention on the SGU, but I've been listening for a long time (not quite since the Perry days but close). If it's more recent, I'm surprised I've forgotten, because I do remember a similar mistake on another podcast from probably 5-10 years ago. It was used in the phrase "the annals of history". A sidekick on the podcast quickly jumped in and quipped, "that's the backside of history".  :D

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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2019, 09:26:55 PM »
No, it's a call-back to a joke from a previous episode. Steve would pronounce it to rhyme with 'panel.'

Perhaps so, but it sure didn't come across that way to me, as a listener. Curious - I don't recall it's previous mention on the SGU, but I've been listening for a long time (not quite since the Perry days but close). If it's more recent, I'm surprised I've forgotten, because I do remember a similar mistake on another podcast from probably 5-10 years ago. It was used in the phrase "the annals of history". A sidekick on the podcast quickly jumped in and quipped, "that's the backside of history".  :D

I highly doubt that was unintentional, either. I don’t get why you’d conclude it was a mistake rather than another example of the kind of puerile humor they engage in all the time (PNAS, Uranus, etc.).  I don’t think such jokes are particularly funny, but the rogues clearly do.
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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2019, 01:16:02 PM »
No, it's a call-back to a joke from a previous episode. Steve would pronounce it to rhyme with 'panel.'

Perhaps so, but it sure didn't come across that way to me, as a listener. Curious - I don't recall it's previous mention on the SGU, but I've been listening for a long time (not quite since the Perry days but close). If it's more recent, I'm surprised I've forgotten, because I do remember a similar mistake on another podcast from probably 5-10 years ago. It was used in the phrase "the annals of history". A sidekick on the podcast quickly jumped in and quipped, "that's the backside of history".  :D

I highly doubt that was unintentional, either. I don’t get why you’d conclude it was a mistake rather than another example of the kind of puerile humor they engage in all the time (PNAS, Uranus, etc.).  I don’t think such jokes are particularly funny, but the rogues clearly do.

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« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2019, 08:25:18 PM »
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2019, 12:46:07 AM »
No, it's a call-back to a joke from a previous episode. Steve would pronounce it to rhyme with 'panel.'

Perhaps so, but it sure didn't come across that way to me, as a listener. Curious - I don't recall it's previous mention on the SGU, but I've been listening for a long time (not quite since the Perry days but close). If it's more recent, I'm surprised I've forgotten, because I do remember a similar mistake on another podcast from probably 5-10 years ago. It was used in the phrase "the annals of history". A sidekick on the podcast quickly jumped in and quipped, "that's the backside of history".  :D

I highly doubt that was unintentional, either. I don’t get why you’d conclude it was a mistake rather than another example of the kind of puerile humor they engage in all the time (PNAS, Uranus, etc.).  I don’t think such jokes are particularly funny, but the rogues clearly do.

The best part of the joke was that none of the other rogues laughed or even said anything after Steve mispronounced the word at least twice.
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2019, 12:59:06 AM »
No, it's a call-back to a joke from a previous episode. Steve would pronounce it to rhyme with 'panel.'

Perhaps so, but it sure didn't come across that way to me, as a listener. Curious - I don't recall it's previous mention on the SGU, but I've been listening for a long time (not quite since the Perry days but close). If it's more recent, I'm surprised I've forgotten, because I do remember a similar mistake on another podcast from probably 5-10 years ago. It was used in the phrase "the annals of history". A sidekick on the podcast quickly jumped in and quipped, "that's the backside of history".  :D

I highly doubt that was unintentional, either. I don’t get why you’d conclude it was a mistake rather than another example of the kind of puerile humor they engage in all the time (PNAS, Uranus, etc.).  I don’t think such jokes are particularly funny, but the rogues clearly do.

The best part of the joke was that none of the other rogues laughed or even said anything after Steve mispronounced the word at least twice.

That’s usually my response to such jokes, too.  And, yes, I sadly find that all too often people repeat them, apparently under the misapprehension that I didn’t hear them the first time.
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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2019, 07:28:53 PM »
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Re: Episode #720
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2019, 09:19:53 PM »
Pearl clutching? Really?

Huh?

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