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Re: Avengers:Endgame [SPOILERS]
« Reply #60 on: August 08, 2019, 06:19:51 PM »
Why is it bad that the women had a sub-team of their own?

I don't think it is bad, but the way it came about, in the middle of the battle with zero lead up to it, felt very forced.  If it could have been something of a subplot throughout, culminating in that moment, the payoff would have been great.

Forced was my feeling. In a chaotic war to have all the women heroes in one spot just wouldn't happen. (Ok statistically any combination is possible  ;) )

You could have had a montage of all the women fighting separate battles (even in small groups) and achieved the same girl power feeling.

It was a great scene and I wouldn't want it cut. But it could have been handled better and not stood out as a forced decision.

On another point it was odd that Natasha didn't get a funeral. Did they leave her body where they got the Soul Stone? Was that part of the deal?

I am looking forward to the Black Widow movie. I have wanted that since Avengers.

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Re: Avengers:Endgame [SPOILERS]
« Reply #61 on: August 08, 2019, 06:32:27 PM »
What you all seem to be forgetting is that if any 14,000,605 details of this movie you are complaining about had been changed, Thanos would have won.
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Re: Avengers:Endgame [SPOILERS]
« Reply #62 on: August 08, 2019, 06:52:08 PM »
Why is it bad that the women had a sub-team of their own?

I don't think it is bad, but the way it came about, in the middle of the battle with zero lead up to it, felt very forced.  If it could have been something of a subplot throughout, culminating in that moment, the payoff would have been great.

Forced was my feeling. In a chaotic war to have all the women heroes in one spot just wouldn't happen. (Ok statistically any combination is possible  ;) )

You could have had a montage of all the women fighting separate battles (even in small groups) and achieved the same girl power feeling.

It was a great scene and I wouldn't want it cut. But it could have been handled better and not stood out as a forced decision.

On another point it was odd that Natasha didn't get a funeral. Did they leave her body where they got the Soul Stone? Was that part of the deal?

I am looking forward to the Black Widow movie. I have wanted that since Avengers.

They weren't really in one spot. He called for help and they answered. It didn't feel forced to me.

Natasha did get a funeral - it just wasn't formal. Hulk tossed a bench during it. If there was a body to collect it's possible Hawkeye could not get to it to bring home after.
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Re: Avengers:Endgame [SPOILERS]
« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2019, 07:05:54 PM »
Why is it bad that the women had a sub-team of their own?

I don't think it is bad, but the way it came about, in the middle of the battle with zero lead up to it, felt very forced.  If it could have been something of a subplot throughout, culminating in that moment, the payoff would have been great.
The whole freaking 7th Cavalry charge was forced. It came of out thin air. Picking one clot of troopers out of that mob to be stressed about is just a little weird.

Or, as Wong said, "You want more?!?!?!"
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Re: Avengers:Endgame [SPOILERS]
« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2019, 07:30:06 PM »
Why is it bad that the women had a sub-team of their own?

I don't think it is bad, but the way it came about, in the middle of the battle with zero lead up to it, felt very forced.  If it could have been something of a subplot throughout, culminating in that moment, the payoff would have been great.
The whole freaking 7th Cavalry charge was forced. It came of out thin air. Picking one clot of troopers out of that mob to be stressed about is just a little weird.

Or, as Wong said, "You want more?!?!?!"

I think you are overstating what anyone has said.  Not saying it ruined the movie, or it wasn't a cool scene, just that that particular item felt forced.

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Re: Avengers:Endgame [SPOILERS]
« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2019, 12:40:12 PM »
Why is it bad that the women had a sub-team of their own?

I don't think it is bad, but the way it came about, in the middle of the battle with zero lead up to it, felt very forced.  If it could have been something of a subplot throughout, culminating in that moment, the payoff would have been great.
The whole freaking 7th Cavalry charge was forced. It came of out thin air. Picking one clot of troopers out of that mob to be stressed about is just a little weird.

Or, as Wong said, "You want more?!?!?!"

I think you are overstating what anyone has said.  Not saying it ruined the movie, or it wasn't a cool scene, just that that particular item felt forced.
I was just saying that it didn't stand out that much.
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Re: Avengers:Endgame [SPOILERS]
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2019, 04:21:19 PM »
I think that cavalry scene was a bold statement but we have to see if they live up to it.  Out of the 20 something marvel movies, the first 2/3rds were not particularly woke, but they did get better with time.
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