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Re: Traveling
« Reply #105 on: October 31, 2019, 03:41:59 PM »
I went to Helsinki, Finland, a while ago. Does that count?
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Re: Traveling
« Reply #106 on: October 31, 2019, 05:05:25 PM »
Did you enjoy the bogs?

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Re: Traveling
« Reply #107 on: October 31, 2019, 05:14:25 PM »
That does NOT look comfortable.
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« Reply #108 on: October 31, 2019, 05:26:16 PM »
Well, Helsinki is a city, not a waterhole in the wilderness. So it was not like that at all. :P
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« Reply #109 on: October 31, 2019, 05:43:08 PM »
That does NOT look comfortable.

It looks brisk and invigorating

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Re: Traveling
« Reply #110 on: October 31, 2019, 06:54:38 PM »
That does NOT look comfortable.

It looks brisk and invigorating

Brisk and invigorating is the ocean water off Maui at the end of October/ beginning of November, when it's just about 2 or 3 degrees cooler than bath water. That looks like they're sitting naked on rough brush stubble in filthy, slime-covered water. Note that the guy serving them drinks is wearing a snowmobile suit, heavy gloves, and a hat with ear flaps. And if he's in Finland, he probably doesn't put that outfit on until it's colder than minus twenty Celcius.
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« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2019, 10:00:35 AM »
-20 C? I think, based on this post, and some other posts, that you may need to adjust your default conception about the temperatures of the Nordic countries. Helsinki is not in the far north of Finland. Here we can see the various standard temperatures, as well as records, for Helsinki over the months of the year. Part from the record low at about -30 C, it is nowhere close to -20 C.
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Re: Traveling
« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2019, 04:12:27 PM »
Yeah, the area surrounding the bog does not look like there is any kind of freezing going on there.
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Re: Traveling
« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2019, 04:59:42 PM »
-20 C? I think, based on this post, and some other posts, that you may need to adjust your default conception about the temperatures of the Nordic countries. Helsinki is not in the far north of Finland. Here we can see the various standard temperatures, as well as records, for Helsinki over the months of the year. Part from the record low at about -30 C, it is nowhere close to -20 C.
Yeah, the area surrounding the bog does not look like there is any kind of freezing going on there.

I was just going by the bulky clothing the server is wearing, and the reputation of the Finnish people for jumping naked into the snow. I wouldn't expect that somebody who jumps naked into the snow would wear that much clothing if it weren't pretty darn cold. And even the guys sitting in the muck are wearing thick hats with ear flaps. But I stand corrected.

It still looks dreadfully uncomfortable.
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Re: Traveling
« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2019, 05:19:00 PM »
It like outdoor mud spa.  With waiter.
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« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2019, 10:01:04 PM »
It like outdoor mud spa.  With waiter.

Yes. Dreadful.
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Re: Traveling
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2019, 05:09:03 AM »
I've been to a few places but last (labour) weekend I (we) went to Te Ika-a-Maui (the North Island) for a two day mountain bike ride/party.  What a great idea for the twentieth anniversary of Escape Adventures Bicycle tours.

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Re: Traveling
« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2019, 05:56:46 PM »
I've been thinking about traveling from the US to the UK and Spain. Inspired by Gretta's example but not having the money for a private boat, does anyone have any experience with crossing the Atlantic on a shipping vessel?  I guess I wouldn't rule a cruse ship out, but I'm not really interested in any extra stops, I just want to get from the eastern seaboard of the US to Europe.
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« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2019, 09:07:40 PM »
I have no personal experience, but my aunt used to travel on cargo ships. Most have (or at least they did back then) a few passenger cabins. You eat at the captain's table. There are none of the luxuries of a cruise ship, but also none of the hidden added expenses. Bring plenty of books on your e-reader. Call the shipping lines to inquire. My guess (based on the fact that my aunt enjoyed these trips) is that you'll have comfortable accommodations, but probably no swimming pool, shuffleboard, or entertainment. Maybe a TV in your stateroom and a library of DVDs, but that's just a guess. Maybe an area on deck where you can gaze out to sea, but that's also a guess.
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Re: Traveling
« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2019, 09:16:24 PM »
P.S. I found this:

https://wikitravel.org/en/Freighter_travel

Apparently I was mistaken when I said you would eat at the captain's table. My aunt was an intelligent, personable, and attractive woman. That might explain why she was invited to eat at the captain's table. And a half a century has passed since she travelled this way.
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