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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2020, 08:29:09 PM »
As much as I would love to blame the virus on meat-eating, I doubt that meat-eating is a major cause of pandemics. There are lots of ways eating meat is bad. I doubt that this is one of them.

Well, this particular pandemic was caused by the sale for human consumption of live exotic animals.
As much as I would love to blame the virus on meat-eating, I doubt that meat-eating is a major cause of pandemics. There are lots of ways eating meat is bad. I doubt that this is one of them.
I think its less the ingesting of meat and more the conditions that animals are kept in and how disease can spread and mutate and due to proximity or ingestion itself, make its way into humans.
There are numerous diseases that began from farmed animals and none Im aware of that started from farmed crops.
Add in the carbon cost of farming animals and it starts to seem that unless one is in a very vulnerable situation, we probably shouldnt be farming animals as a commodity.
And yet I am still eating sausages, chicken and eggs from aldi because I cant afford alternative protein right now and am too vain to stop working out quite as intensely.

Thank you both. I certainly would support an end to the eating of animals by people. If that prevents a future pandemic, all the better.
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2020, 10:45:59 PM »
Cleaning your house is not necessarily a major cause of death, but mixing cleaning chemicals can result in toxic fumes that can cause death.

Likewise, eating meat is not necessarily a major cause of pandemics, but raising food animals in hazardous or insanitary conditions can potentially cause a disease pandemic.
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2020, 07:42:55 AM »

Thank you both. I certainly would support an end to the eating of animals by people. If that prevents a future pandemic, all the better.
You want my burger, come and get it.
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2020, 11:18:27 AM »

Thank you both. I certainly would support an end to the eating of animals by people. If that prevents a future pandemic, all the better.
You want my burger, come and get it.

No thanks. I'll leave that to the guys with the guns. ;D
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2020, 11:39:40 AM »

Thank you both. I certainly would support an end to the eating of animals by people. If that prevents a future pandemic, all the better.
You want my burger, come and get it.

No thanks. I'll leave that to the guys with the guns. ;D
Lots of guns.
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2020, 01:08:30 PM »

Thank you both. I certainly would support an end to the eating of animals by people. If that prevents a future pandemic, all the better.
You want my burger, come and get it.

No thanks. I'll leave that to the guys with the guns. ;D
Lots of guns.

That's up to them. If a law is passed against eating meat, I will not be the one enforcing it. Note, however, that in modern times, people who take up guns against the government always lose in the end.

But nobody's coming for your burger any time soon. A carbon tax would raise the price of it, though.

Come to think of it, if the virus gets bad enough, your neighbors might start fighting you over that burger, and any other food. I imagine the winners will be whichever side can form the largest armed group. But I'm not expecting that outcome. As long as we can flatten the curve enough, there should be enough healthy people to keep the food supply functioning.
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2020, 04:30:10 PM »
people who take up guns against the government always lose in the end.

Where are you getting that impression?

At the very least, it appears to depend largely on the skin color of the armed insurrectionists.

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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2020, 05:06:54 PM »
people who take up guns against the government always lose in the end.

Where are you getting that impression?

At the very least, it appears to depend largely on the skin color of the armed insurrectionists.

Sorry. I should have said in modern industrialized nations.
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2020, 05:55:18 PM »
The Bundy standoff has changed the paradigm somewhat.

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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2020, 09:21:09 AM »
To jump into this ridiculous dystopian scenario-
I assume you can keep that specific burger. They will just cut off the supply for more.

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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2020, 10:42:07 AM »
To jump into this ridiculous dystopian scenario-
I assume you can keep that specific burger. They will just cut off the supply for more.

The government would just cut off the supply. His neighbors will fight him for that specific burger.  ;)
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2020, 02:24:27 AM »
Ruminants are the best source of carbon sequestration available. They have been for millions of years.
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2020, 04:31:43 AM »
Ruminants are the best source of carbon sequestration available. They have been for millions of years.

You keep repeating this false statement, despite having been corrected numerous times.

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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2020, 05:15:04 AM »
You can have my burger when you pry it from my toasted brioche bun!  ;)
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Re: Is human meat-eating a major cause of pandemics?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2020, 12:23:59 PM »
Ruminants are the best source of carbon sequestration available. They have been for millions of years.

Oh, come on now. That's just plain silly.
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