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Title: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 02:34:25 AM
(http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/337/ninjapiratenw1.jpg)

Who will win this ancient feud?

Please remember I am in Australia and so may not reply to questions, lynches etc. immediately.

As usual, you will need to use logic, deception, rhetoric, intimidation, and teamwork to win this game!

When the game begins, you will receive your particular role through a Private Message on this site. Please confirm you received the message by sending me one back.  The PM will tell you who you are (e.g.: Bob, George etc...), what powers you have (e.g.: Doc, Cop, etc...), and which side you are on (ie. "Town" or "Mafia").

If you are Mafia, it will also tell you who is in your group. You may only communicate with those people at night through PM, email, IM or whatever. There may be more than one mafia group, and they may or may not know about each other.

If people are voting for you during the day, yet you are innocent, you are allowed to Role Claim - that is, provide your role. Do not directly copy the Mod's message message, say your role and use your own words. Mafia will of course attempt to use fake RC's.

Reminders:
1. Do not talk about the game outside the thread, unless your roles specifically allows it.
2. When you are pressured to reveal your role, do not copy my message. Use your own words. Do not quote anything I send to you.
3. Ask me questions if anything is unclear.
4. You are allowed only one post after you die (through being lynched or being killed at night).
5. Have fun. It is a game, and I expect courteous and mature behaviour. Mafia is not a game to win, it is a game to enjoy.
6. Do not edit the content of your posts. It is not fair if you post something that some people get to see and other don't.
7. Any night action not received by the deadline is forfeit.
8. Vote in bold. Only Bold votes count.
9. Confirm your reception of the role PM with a PM back to me.
NEW RULES: Failure to post substantially at least once a day [except weekends] will result in being replaced, regardless of alignment. You have been warned. Note: Rule is waived for short Days, and extenuating circumstances.
For every RC given during a day, the number of votes required for lynch goes up by 1 for the day.

Useful links:
Explanation of Standard Mafia Roles (http://mikeburnfire.sitesled.com/mscumB.swf)
Introduction to Mafia thread (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,15918.0.html)
(Back to Basics) Cops and Robbers Mafia (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,10338.0.html)
General Mafia Discussion Thread (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,14836.0.html)

History of Mafia the Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(Party_Game))
Mafia Scum wiki (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Maeking postz! no post kthxbai]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 02:34:35 AM
Player list
1. myra555 - DEAD - Guybrush Threepwood, Naive Vigilante
2. LeeTheAgent - DEAD - Uzimaki Naruto, Mafia Goon
3. Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT
4. 1Pirate - DEAD - Captain Hook, VT
5. Mr Ben - DEAD - Cannonball, 50% Self-save
6. Neutral Milk - DEAD - Batman, Mafia Godfather
7. Zookster alexbutterfield - CLAIMS - Captain Feathersword
8. Sandwich - DEAD - Robert Hamburger, Mafia Goon
9. lobster5 - DEAD - Dread Pirate Roberts, VT
10. fffanatic06 - DEAD - John Rackham (Calico Jack), VT
11. karyn - DEAD - Shawn Fanning, VT
12. Morvis13 - DEAD - Grace O'Malley, VT
13. Black_Magic - DEAD - Balthier, Cop
14. Wastrel - DEAD - Kisaragi Yuffie, Mafia Roleblocker
15. Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts
16. Kikyo - DEAD - Captain Jack Sparrow, Cop
17. sketchy - DEAD - Bram Cohen, VT
18. Apharinde - DEAD - Francis Drake, Vigilante
19.  Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte
20. Beleth - DEAD - Monkey D. Luffy, VT

Events:
Day 1 starts. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg405408.html#msg405408)
Lobster metagames! Is Casper scum again? (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg405465.html#msg405465)
Casper reports for duty as Long John Silver! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg405693.html#msg405693)
Beleth claims no power, (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg405803.html#msg405803) and claims Monkey D. Luffy. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg405861.html#msg405861)
People metagame over my penchant for anime. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg405868.html#msg405868)
Shin claims Black Bart. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg406333.html#msg406333)
Morvis claims to be a pub (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg406347.html#msg406347), Grace O'Malley, (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg406510.html#msg406510) but finds out he was a woman first. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg406521.html#msg406521)
Sketchy claims Bram Cohen. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg407306.html#msg407306)
Day 1 ends with no lynch. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg407603.html#msg407603)

Day 2 starts. Balthier is dead! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg409074.html#msg409074)
Beleth mangles age old adages. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg409381.html#msg409381)
Tai Fung claims Jean Lafitte. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg410285.html#msg410285)
Sketchy is lynched. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg411393.html#msg411393)

Day 3 starts. Jack Sparrow is dead! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg415305.html#msg415305)
Mr Ben claims Cannonball. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php?topic=16455.msg416934#msg416934)
Day ends on no lynch. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg417503.html#msg417503)

Day 4 starts. Luffy is dead! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg420278.html#msg420278)
Lee is lynched. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg424925.html#msg424925)

Day 5 starts. Dread Pirate Roberts is dead! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg426552.html#msg426552)
Karyn insists that she's pRC'ed like everyone else. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg426562.html#msg426562) 1Pirate says no. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg426709.html#msg426709)
NM claims LeChuck. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg426788.html#msg426788)
Myra holds a séance. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg427829.html#msg427829)
Myra claims Guybrush Threepwood, (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg428044.html#msg428044) the vigilante. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg428004.html#msg428004)
Myra is lynched. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg428340.html#msg428340)

Day 6 starts. Calico Jack and Batman are dead! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg429437.html#msg429437)
Confusion over Batman's ninja status (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg429441.html#msg429441)
Sandwich claims the pirate from Atlus Shrug! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg429766.html#msg429766)
Mr Ben is a badass transformer with 50% selfsave (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg430087.html#msg430087)

Day 7 starts. Captain Hook and the Real Ultimate Ninja are dead! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg434821.html#msg434821)
Wastrel is lynched. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg439474.html#msg439474)

Day 8 starts. Cannonball and Grace O'Malley are dead! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg440313.html#msg440313)
Alexbutterfield makes a nice list. (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php?topic=16455.msg440346#msg440346)
Apharinde is lynched! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg440934.html#msg440934)

Day 9 starts. Nobody died! (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg443529.html#msg443529)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 02:34:45 AM
Captain Jack Sparrow – Cop
Arrrr. You're a (sneaky) pirate. You're also smart, so you figured you'd see if you could find any different about your fellow townies. Every night, you can sneak into someone's home and investigate their belongings.
You win with the town.
~
Long John Silver  - Vanilla Townie
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Feathersword - Jailkeeper
Arrrr. You're a (musical) pirate. You're the least violent of the lot, so they made you town medic! Go figure. Unfortunately, you also make your patients sit through your concerts, meaning they can't do what they want to do.
You win with the town.
~
John Rackham (Calico Jack) – Vanilla Townie
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Balthier - Cop
Arrrr. You're a (sneaky) pirate. You're also smart, so you figured you'd see if you could find any different about your fellow townies. Every night, you can sneak into someone's home and investigate their belongings.
You win with the town.
~
Captain Hook – Vanilla Townie
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Monkey D. Luffy
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Grace O'Malley
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Bartholomew Roberts (Black Bart) - Vigilante
Arrrr. You're a (blood-thirsty) pirate. You have a very sharp cutlass, and you aren't afraid to use it. You win with the town.
~
Shawn Fanning
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Guybrush Threepwood - Vigilante
Arrrr. You're a (blood-thirsty) pirate. You have a very sharp cutlass, and you aren't afraid to use it. You win with the town.
~
Dread Pirate Roberts – Vanilla Townie
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Francis Drake - Vigilante
Arrrr. You're a (blood-thirsty) pirate. You have a very sharp cutlass, and you aren't afraid to use it. You win with the town.
~
Bram Cohen – Vanilla Townie
Arrrr. You're a pirate. You win with the town.
~
Cannonball – 50% self-save
Arrrr. You're a (transforming) pirate. You're harder to kill than most. You win with the town.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Uzimaki Naruto – Mafia Goon
You're not a pirate! You're a ninja.

You win when you and your ninja buddies destroy the town.
Your mafia consists of Wastrel, Sandwich, Tai Fung and Neutral Milk.
~
Kisaragi Yuffie – Mafia Roleblocker
You're not a pirate! You're a (hot) ninja. You know how to distract people, if you know what I mean.

You win when you and your ninja buddies destroy the town.
Your mafia consists of LeeTheAgent, Sandwich, Tai Fung and Neutral Milk.
~
Robert Hamburger – Mafia Goon
You're not a pirate! You're a ninja.

You win when you and your ninja buddies destroy the town.
Your mafia consists of LeeTheAgent, Wastrel, Tai Fung and Neutral Milk.
~
Tiger Tanaka – Mafia Goon
You're not a pirate! You're a ninja.

You win when you and your ninja buddies destroy the town.
Your mafia consists of LeeTheAgent, Wastrel, Sandwich and Neutral Milk.
~
Batman – Mafia Godfather
You're not a pirate! You're a ninja. I mean, you throw 'bat-stars' at people, you wear dark clothes and you only go out at night. How are you not a ninja? Anyways. As the indisputably most awesome of all your ninja friends, you're the godfather.

Infiltrating the pirates under your Bruce Wayne persona, you have discovered that Anne Bonney, and Edward Teach (Blackbeard) are not in residence. Should you choose to 'borrow' these names, you will lose a night kill for each time you borrow a name. Choose wisely.

Your mafia consists of  LeeTheAgent, Wastrel, Sandwich and Tai Fung.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: mickal777 on December 11, 2008, 02:38:54 AM
1. myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 11, 2008, 02:48:21 AM
2. LeeTheAgent (I really shouldn't be doing this, but I'm an addict)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 02:57:07 AM
It'll be easy. I promise! No busdrives.  :-*
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Casper on December 11, 2008, 02:57:46 AM
3. Casper
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 11, 2008, 03:09:40 AM
4. 1Pirate

I'm boned if the mafia's composed of pirates though.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 03:22:52 AM
Oh yeah the mafia at night rule is back! As is the 24hour rule.

Also, only 20 spots! Preferably more people should sign up so I can have alts for rule breakers. Kthxbai.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 11, 2008, 06:40:45 AM
5. Mr Ben

Edit: my bad, miscounted. 5 it is.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 11, 2008, 06:52:59 AM
6. Neutral Milk

Changed my number after Zookster pointed out the two #4s.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Zookster on December 11, 2008, 07:21:14 AM
7. Zookster.

Modified after numerical confusion eliminated.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Sandwich on December 11, 2008, 08:12:14 AM
8. Sandwich
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: lobster5 on December 11, 2008, 08:13:23 AM
9. lobster5

Aarrrgh-ya!

PS: Are you sharing home photo shoots with us Anachronism? If so, woof woof!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 11, 2008, 08:18:58 AM
10. fffanatic06

and how's about I don't get godfather this time?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Karyn on December 11, 2008, 08:23:39 AM
11. karyn
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 11, 2008, 09:40:13 AM
12. Morvis13

I have no idea what I'm getting into.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 10:19:14 AM
w00! Um, read the introduction thread (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,15918.0.html), some of the past games (listed in this thread (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,14836.0.html)), especially Cops and Robbers (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,10338.0.html). :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 11, 2008, 10:33:18 AM
13. Black_Magic
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: wastrel on December 11, 2008, 10:38:02 AM
14. wastrel
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on December 11, 2008, 11:01:28 AM
15. Shin Hatsubai
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 11:59:21 AM
You guys are quick. :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: wastrel on December 11, 2008, 12:01:22 PM
If you are Mafia, it will also tell you who is in your group. You may only communicate with those people at night through PM, email, IM or whatever.

Oh, this is interesting.

How many players are you looking for Anach?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 12:05:11 PM
5 more to 20. :)

It was night-communication only in C&R, but it proved a difficult stumbling block for them. Here's to a better game. ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: DarthCaitSith on December 11, 2008, 12:37:32 PM
In to many mafias right now to join.  :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: kikyo on December 11, 2008, 01:14:39 PM
Wait, did I miss it already? :(

Oh ... five more?

:D

16. Kikyo
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: sketchy on December 11, 2008, 01:23:55 PM
17. sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Apharinde on December 11, 2008, 02:26:03 PM
18. Apharinde

Well I know what a pirate is and I've heard of ninjas, so this shouldn't be to hard...  ::)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 11, 2008, 02:32:16 PM
11. karyn

Shouldn't you be posting the night message for the Porn Star Mafia??!    :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 11, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
Oh, and screw it . . .

19.  Tai Fung

<3 for the Aussie
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 11, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
The first 19 happened in no time, and now it's been 6 hours since the last!? C'mon! One more!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 10:50:10 PM
One more, one more!

And to think I was planning 24 at first!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 11, 2008, 10:58:03 PM
Five more. Five more.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Beleth on December 11, 2008, 11:05:59 PM
The first 19 happened in no time, and now it's been 6 hours since the last!? C'mon! One more!

Okay FINE.  This'll be my first so be gentle.

20. Beleth
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: mickal777 on December 11, 2008, 11:10:29 PM
You have to promise not to read our PM's...  :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 11:21:33 PM
We'll be gentle. Or rather, I'll be gentle, and you can beg for their mercy.  :D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Beleth on December 11, 2008, 11:22:16 PM
You have to promise not to read our PM's...  :P

;D

I promise.

It's not like I'll live to see Day 2 anyway!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 11, 2008, 11:25:36 PM
(http://www.homesgofast.com/caribbean/images/Caribbean.jpg)

Welcome to the Caribbean, home of the pirates!

It is now the pre-game. Relevant parties will know what that means. Roles are being sent out! Either reply to the PM or reply in the thread to confirm.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 12, 2008, 12:57:24 AM
Forgot to mention!
New Rule:
For every RC given in a day, 2 extra votes will be needed to lynch (until such a point where it's impossible to raise the extra 2 votes due to numbers).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: mickal777 on December 12, 2008, 01:00:39 AM
:O
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 12, 2008, 01:14:20 AM
Yargh!  Confirmed, matey!

(Hey, I liked the theme-specific talk in the Sopranos, might as well try here too)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: wastrel on December 12, 2008, 10:18:47 AM
Forgot to mention!
New Rule:
For every RC given in a day, 2 extra votes will be needed to lynch (until such a point where it's impossible to raise the extra 2 votes due to numbers).

Oh, wow.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Apharinde on December 12, 2008, 11:18:29 AM
Forgot to mention!
New Rule:
For every RC given in a day, 2 extra votes will be needed to lynch (until such a point where it's impossible to raise the extra 2 votes due to numbers).

Wow, need to start thinking then...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 12, 2008, 11:28:47 AM
Upon helpful instruction, the number of extra votes required to lynch per RC is reduced to one.

Note: Day will start in roughly 12 hours.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Beleth on December 12, 2008, 11:50:17 AM
[n00b]
Can you go over what is allowed in an RC and what isn't?  I get that it's a "role claim," but can I come straight out and say "Anachronism's PM to me said that I'm a Townie"?
[/n00b]
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 12, 2008, 12:25:00 PM
I think the only thing you're not permitted to do is quote your PM.  You can paraphrase what you got all you like.

Oh, and suffice it to say, if you're a SK or Mafia, you want to post that you are early on in the game.  We'll be good to you, it's ok.  This is also known as "pulling a Luna." (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,2248.msg40040.html#msg40040)

Oh, and no edits in Mafia.   :P   Except that one, where I added the link.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: wastrel on December 12, 2008, 12:26:10 PM
@Anach

Are power claims included in the rule?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 12, 2008, 12:34:05 PM
No, just names.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Karyn on December 12, 2008, 01:41:21 PM
Ban:  Beleth

>_>


<_<


It wasn't me...it was me matey.....arrrrrrg.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Beleth on December 12, 2008, 01:48:09 PM
I will try to not pull a Luna :)

Love,
Hinjiro Tanagotchi Blood-Eye Pete
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 12, 2008, 03:06:27 PM
are you suppose to tell now?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: wastrel on December 12, 2008, 03:15:02 PM
are you suppose to tell now?

No, the game hasn't started.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 12, 2008, 03:19:48 PM
Can I Vote Lynch Luna?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 13, 2008, 07:50:42 PM
Still waiting on 1 confirmation.  :'(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Roles being sent!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 15, 2008, 08:31:14 AM
Avast! Land ahoy!

(http://piratepistols.com/pirate-ship.jpg)

Day 1, start!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 15, 2008, 08:53:43 AM
Ahoy, me mateys!

And that's all I got.

So is this going to be the kind of mafia game where rc's aren't all that helpful?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 15, 2008, 08:55:21 AM
YARRRR!!!!

n i dunno. maybe one or two. itll probably be like magrats game over at ILS. theres were a couple o role claims that just didnt fit.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on December 15, 2008, 09:15:42 AM
We can still make people power claim, if that is any help....
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 15, 2008, 09:35:54 AM
what's the difference?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 15, 2008, 09:43:03 AM
what's the difference?

a power claim is whatever night action you can perform at night (mason you can talk to, investigative abilities, protecting someone). Your role claim is basically the character you were assigned via pm by the mod. You can lie about either one.


I'm little worried about going for to many rc's. In the last few games I was in Town has been very bad at getting the necessary votes together for a lynch. If there's any delay we may end up giving scum several no-lynch days.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 15, 2008, 09:45:04 AM
A day 1 no lynch is very common. A no-lynch after that is very uncommon. I wouldn't worry too much ;)

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 15, 2008, 09:49:36 AM
Meta game time!

vote: Scummy Casper

I'm just playing the odds ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 15, 2008, 10:06:24 AM
Can't hurt Town, can it?

vote: Casper
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 15, 2008, 10:10:02 AM
I'm just playing the odds ;)

What odds are those?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 15, 2008, 10:15:48 AM
I'll go along with the crowd and ....

vote: Casper
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 15, 2008, 10:18:17 AM
I'm just playing the odds ;)

What odds are those?


He's so often scum

I realise it's entirely unscientific
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on December 15, 2008, 10:26:17 AM
Pressure: Casper

It's always casper
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on December 15, 2008, 12:10:49 PM
Yarrr!  There be one person with such an obvious ninja-y name that he have to be a ninja, and a bad one a' that!

Vote: Shin Hatsubai
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 15, 2008, 12:15:13 PM
Yarrr!  There be one person with such an obvious ninja-y name that he have to be a ninja, and a bad one a' that!

Vote: Shin Hatsubai
Starting a second random bandwagon is bad form, unless there is a good reason to start it... also, shin is a wimminz.

pressure: Casbah (so long is the vote is because of lobsters unscientificness and not the gamblers fallacy)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: kikyo on December 15, 2008, 12:18:42 PM
Hey now! We have to be careful about how many claims we get each day. If we come up with a lynch candidate we want to be able to actually lynch them.

There's already a bandwagon on Casper. He's a quiet player and he's gotten a string of crazy/scummy roles lately so I supposed we might as well get him out of the way. And you should know, Beleth, that deflecting a bandwagon already in progress onto someone else is a pretty suspicious move.

At this point Shin seems to be waaay too adorable to be an evil ninja, although anything is possible.  But I think it's probably best to stick with what we've already started.

Pressure: Casper
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 15, 2008, 12:27:46 PM
At this point Shin seems to be waaay too adorable to be an evil ninja
If shin is an evil ninja... I WANT PICTURES!  ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on December 15, 2008, 12:40:37 PM
Yarrr!  There be one person with such an obvious ninja-y name that he have to be a ninja, and a bad one a' that!

Vote: Shin Hatsubai
Starting a second random bandwagon is bad form, unless there is a good reason to start it... also, shin is a wimminz.

As there be no reason to staaaaaarrrrrrrt the first random bandwagon, methought there should be no reason necessary to staaaaaarrrrrrrt the second!  But, faaaarrrrrr be it for me to go against The Code....
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 15, 2008, 12:44:27 PM
pressure: casper

Avast! Can I successfully format from my scurvy new phone?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 15, 2008, 12:47:41 PM
Aye, I cannot. :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 15, 2008, 12:52:11 PM
lol @ sandwich.

pressure: casper

might as well. anyone what timezone caspers in?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 15, 2008, 12:55:20 PM
(or i could just look it up myself instead of being lazy)

about midday, so should be able to reply soon hopefully
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 15, 2008, 12:55:41 PM
I can see getting a couple of RCs today.  In all likelihood, the day will end in a no lynch, so driving up the number of votes it takers to get there is not a big deal.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 15, 2008, 12:57:33 PM
Ahoy, me mateys!

So is this going to be the kind of mafia game where rc's aren't all that helpful?
Arr, in t'B2B game of times before, we did RC mightily on the first day which led us to victory, the likes of which ye'd never seen afore('twere such a dark game fer the mafia that the bonnie ozzie mod did institute the new RCin' rule that hangs o'er our heads on this fine winter's day).

pressure: Casper

I can see getting a couple of RCs today.  In all likelihood, the day will end in a no lynch, so driving up the number of votes it takers to get there is not a big deal.

Aye
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 15, 2008, 01:41:24 PM
As there be no reason to staaaaaarrrrrrrt the first random bandwagon, methought there should be no reason necessary to staaaaaarrrrrrrt the second!  But, faaaarrrrrr be it for me to go against The Code....
It's not that there has to be a reason to start the 2nd bandwagon (although there should be) it's that you started it in the middle of the first one... that takes the pressure off of casbah, and defeats the purpose of a bandwagon.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 15, 2008, 02:10:39 PM
As there be no reason to staaaaaarrrrrrrt the first random bandwagon, methought there should be no reason necessary to staaaaaarrrrrrrt the second!  But, faaaarrrrrr be it for me to go against The Code....


(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/270916539_5a9c0691ef.jpg)

And . . .

Pressure:  Casper
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 15, 2008, 02:30:55 PM
Casper is on Central Time... and he's around >_>
<_<
/me joins the metagaming

pressure Casbah
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on December 15, 2008, 02:40:56 PM
Long John Silver saying ARRRGH for duty. Since I know it's the next thing coming, I'm a VT.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 15, 2008, 02:43:01 PM
unvote
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 15, 2008, 02:45:16 PM
Would Long John Silver be a VT?

Who here knows about pirates? Maybe you can help evaluate people's power claims.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 15, 2008, 02:48:37 PM
wtf is a VT?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 15, 2008, 03:00:03 PM
Would Long John Silver be a VT?

Who here knows about pirates? Maybe you can help evaluate people's power claims.
Arr, me best guess be that th'name o'the pirate be not so relevant as in Cops & Robbers, th'town were composed entirely o' police but not all were cops.

wtf is a VT?
VT does stand fer "Vanilla Townie", a townsman that has no powers or specialness about them
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 15, 2008, 03:16:27 PM
Would Long John Silver be a VT?

Who here knows about pirates? Maybe you can help evaluate people's power claims.
Arr, me best guess be that th'name o'the pirate be not so relevant as in Cops & Robbers, th'town were composed entirely o' police but not all were cops.

I've only glanced over that one but the role and power did sorta make sense in that game.

But whatever.

unvote

If you guys don't mind a no lynch today I'm up for a second rc.

vote: Beleth
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 15, 2008, 03:19:08 PM
Thanks be ta ye! I still ain't convinced of Casper's innocence.
But I'm all for stringing that vermin Beleth up by the yard arm.

Unvote: Casper
Vote: Beleth
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 15, 2008, 04:06:25 PM
Vote: Beleth

fresh meat.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 15, 2008, 04:07:59 PM
vote: Beleth

Agreed
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: Beleth on December 15, 2008, 04:39:03 PM
It's not like I'll live to see Day 2 anyway!

Ye be out to make me prophecy come trrrue, arrrrrrrr ya?   >:(

I'll have ye know I come from a long line of Jamaican vanilla farrrrmers.  I be as vanilla as the day be long, and by night I be more vanilla still.

unvote
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 15, 2008, 04:39:50 PM
Mod shmod! Ye be walkin the plank ye landlubber!
vote:Beleth
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Sign-Ups open]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 15, 2008, 05:02:07 PM
It's not like I'll live to see Day 2 anyway!

Ye be out to make me prophecy come trrrue, arrrrrrrr ya?   >:(

I'll have ye know I come from a long line of Jamaican vanilla farrrrmers.  I be as vanilla as the day be long, and by night I be more vanilla still.

unvote

Narr! 'Tis no RC!  Names mate, we be wantin' yer name.
pressure Beleth
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 15, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
Yarr! Vanilla townie ain't enough infaarrmation...

vote: beleth

It be limiting, the amount ay slang I knows from pirate-speak.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on December 15, 2008, 05:42:07 PM
Ye'll never get me name outta me, or me name ain't Monkey D. Luffy!

Um... I mean... ARRRRRR!!!!



Wait a tick...

... google google google ...

...I'm an anime pirate?  Maybe I'm a ninja after all!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on December 15, 2008, 06:09:24 PM
Luffy is from the pirate anime One Piece.  Maybe I'm metagaming here, but I could see Anachronism putting him in the game.

I agree that if we feel like we are going to go to a no-lynch today, we should have less of a problem in getting some initial RC's.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: kikyo on December 15, 2008, 06:41:35 PM
I agree that this being Anachronism, that character could be in the game. I also think that it may be worthwhile to get some more RCs, since this may be our only day to go buck wild with that. 
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 15, 2008, 07:38:56 PM
Aye, me thinks 'twould be best to get as many RC out o'th'day as possible fer the mafia not be able to do scheming during th'day and 'tis mighty difficult to come up with ye own fake RCs when ye've got nary a scummate to help ye out.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 15, 2008, 07:57:44 PM
Hmm, never seen the anime film, so no idea there, but everyone else seems to buy it so i'll go along. As for Casper, Long John Silver is very famous, so ill totally buy that.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 15, 2008, 08:28:20 PM
Quote
For every RC given during a day, the number of votes required for lynch goes up by 1 for the day.
Just saw this on the front page... I'm not sure how this would fit in strategy-wise.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 15, 2008, 08:31:10 PM
pretty much the same way it is now. Power through RCs the first day if we agree that we're going for no-lynch, then wait for results/suspisions in the later days to make sure we have enough people to lynch.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 15, 2008, 08:34:21 PM
Quote
For every RC given during a day, the number of votes required for lynch goes up by 1 for the day.
Just saw this on the front page... I'm not sure how this would fit in strategy-wise.
Lee, I think the internets is the source of your power, because after being away from it for a while... you're a little slow ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on December 15, 2008, 08:39:46 PM
lol
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 15, 2008, 08:50:51 PM
I've been traveling all day today, and I will be traveling all day tomorrow, and then either celebrating that I have a job with alcohol, or drinking myself into a stupor over being laid off.  So either way, you aren't likely to hear from me any time soon.  :)  Just an FYI
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: kikyo on December 15, 2008, 09:02:12 PM
I've been traveling all day today, and I will be traveling all day tomorrow, and then either celebrating that I have a job with alcohol, or drinking myself into a stupor over being laid off.  So either way, you aren't likely to hear from me any time soon.  :)  Just an FYI

So you're saying we should just lynch you now?

;)

And yeah, Lee, that thing on the first page is the whole reason why we've been talking about getting several RCs today when we can afford a no lynch. On the days following this we will be very limited in how many claims we can call for. In addition, mafia is at more of a disadvantage right now since they cannot talk until night. Which ... makes it a little suspicious that Karyn is suddenly disappearing for several days in a row. >_>

My random number generator gives me 15 and she's already been called out by Beleth so why not?

Vote: Shin Hatsubai
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on December 15, 2008, 09:35:15 PM
Mod note: Noting that if the number of people required to lynch reaches the total number of players, if extra votes are needed, they carry over into the next day. This mass-rc circumventing is hard. :'(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 15, 2008, 09:37:39 PM
Mod note: Noting that if the number of people required to lynch reaches the total number of players, if extra votes are needed, they carry over into the next day. This mass-rc circumventing is hard. :'(
Lulz :D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 15, 2008, 09:53:42 PM
OMG you people expected me to catch up on every mafia game, the rumble, AND read back through the pages of you people talking before the game even started??  :'(

no u r teh slow  :'(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 15, 2008, 10:00:38 PM
Mod note: Noting that if the number of people required to lynch reaches the total number of players, if extra votes are needed, they carry over into the next day. This mass-rc circumventing is hard. :'(
Lulz :D

Arr, 'tis of no mind.  We needs only to be sure thar's no more RCs to be had afore endgame so scum cannot bring our lynchin' to a halt with their filthy lies.  Means we should be gettin' around 9 RCs afore the day be done. 
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 15, 2008, 10:04:17 PM
I love how the mechanism put in to prevent a lot of RCs is causing us to get a lot of RCs :D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on December 15, 2008, 11:17:23 PM
(http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/traurig/a025.gif)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 15, 2008, 11:59:33 PM
I love how the mechanism put in to prevent a lot of RCs is causing us to get a lot of RCs :D

Ha, yeah it seems that the best laid plans of mods often go awry with us.   ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 16, 2008, 12:15:06 AM
Shoulda used Wastrel's system from Dexter :P

So I'm curious, what would happen if we had a mass-RC today? That kinda would ruin the fun of the game though :/
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 16, 2008, 12:33:27 AM
Shoulda used Wastrel's system from Dexter :P

So I'm curious, what would happen if we had a mass-RC today? That kinda would ruin the fun of the game though :/
Arr, if we were to mass-RC, yon extra lynch-votes will carry-over on the morrow like a case o'gleet after a night of hard wenching, and we'd be sittin' on our arses come sunrise and with nary enough votes for a proper lynch.

'Course, the true meanin' of th'mass RC is 'tis vicious thing fer mafia to come up with a fake RCs without the counsel of their scurvy mates, pushin'em hard on th'first day be a fine way of flushin' out a few o' the slower ones. Thats how we did get poor auld Magrat in Cops and Robbers(and SnarlPatrick with his mad-miller claims). 
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on December 16, 2008, 04:25:43 AM
Mod voice: Limiting it to 3 RCs a day isn't particularly fun. :P

On a separate note, I've come up with a hilarious game idea called "Jesters".
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Zookster on December 16, 2008, 05:01:42 AM
Mornin' me hearties, Zookster checkin in.

2 arrrgghhh seas so far, right? Caspaarggh and Beleth?

And Shin next in the sights of the trusty 24 pounders?

Pressure Shin
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 16, 2008, 09:23:53 AM
Get the marbles outta yer mouth Zookster for ye find steel in yer gut!
I be changing me vote to stay true to the winds.

Unvote Beleth
Pressure Shin
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 16, 2008, 10:23:16 AM
Shin Hatsubai be a mighty strange name for a pirate, but could be he's Welsh, let's find out

vote: Shin Hatsubai
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 16, 2008, 10:24:36 AM
Aye, could even be that he be a she!  ;)

Pressure:  Shin
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 16, 2008, 10:25:49 AM
yarr (goddamn n heres me thinkin pirate talk might be easy)

pressure: Shin Hatsubai Lets hear that scurvy dog squeal
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 16, 2008, 10:26:38 AM
Aye, could even be that he be a she!  ;)

Pressure:  Shin

Bandy such jests at yer peril landlubber, lest you want a lick o' the cat!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 16, 2008, 10:28:50 AM
yarr (goddamn n heres me thinkin pirate talk might be easy)

pressure: Shin Hatsubai Lets hear that scurvy dog squeal

Just use this:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c340/davemarkowitz/pirates/pirate_keyboard.jpg)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 16, 2008, 10:31:02 AM
Aye, could even be that he be a she!  ;)

Pressure:  Shin

Bandy such jests at yer peril landlubber, lest you want a lick o' the cat!

sounds kinky.

This one doubles as a dildo.
(http://www.extremerestraints.com/images/ag100z.jpg)

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: sketchy on December 16, 2008, 11:33:46 AM
I have a theory on the names, but we need a few more to see if it holds any water.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 16, 2008, 11:47:10 AM
Aye, could even be that he be a she!  ;)

Pressure:  Shin

Bandy such jests at yer peril landlubber, lest you want a lick o' the cat!

sounds kinky.

This one doubles as a dildo.
(http://www.extremerestraints.com/images/ag100z.jpg)

OMG want.  um.....yarrrrr.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on December 16, 2008, 11:53:48 AM
To tired to make a useful comment...

...still watching though.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: kikyo on December 16, 2008, 12:09:12 PM
I have a theory on the names, but we need a few more to see if it holds any water.

They're pirate names?  ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 16, 2008, 12:21:59 PM
I have a theory on the names, but we need a few more to see if it holds any water.

They're pirate names?  ;)
(http://flabbergastedly.com/wp-content/uploads/chat%20billeder%202/oh%20you.jpg)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 16, 2008, 12:41:13 PM
Aye, could even be that he be a she!  ;)

Pressure:  Shin

Bandy such jests at yer peril landlubber, lest you want a lick o' the cat!

sounds kinky.

This one doubles as a dildo.
(http://www.extremerestraints.com/images/ag100z.jpg)

OMG want.  um.....yarrrrr.


Does seeing that picture motivate you to get the porn-star mini mafia restarted?   :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 16, 2008, 12:57:02 PM
Yes, I'm sorry.  I found out this morning that I'm not getting laid off, and I'm flying back home today for my last trip of the year, so I should finally be able to get that finished.  I'm sorry.  I promise!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 16, 2008, 12:58:28 PM
Yes, I'm sorry.  I found out this morning that I'm not getting laid off

:o
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on December 16, 2008, 01:10:20 PM
Yaaaaaar.  I be Bartholomew Roberts, known to some landlubbers as Black Bart.  Aye, Lobster speaks the truth, I be a Welsh pirate. ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 16, 2008, 01:16:37 PM
Quickly, no need to actually rc, how many here are real (as in at one time existed outside of someone's imagination) pirates?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 16, 2008, 01:23:22 PM
Quickly, no need to actually rc, how many here are real (as in at one time existed outside of someone's imagination) pirates?

by the way I'm a real pirate.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 16, 2008, 01:23:43 PM
Quickly, no need to actually rc, how many here are real (as in at one time existed outside of someone's imagination) pirates?

I be willin' to set sail with this idea

Of course, I be a fictional pirate
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Zookster on December 16, 2008, 01:24:24 PM
Is this likely to be useful info?  We have Long John Silver already, he is made up.  And Black Bart was real.

What further info will we gain by all saying if we are real or made up?

It might marginally constrain a scummer if they claim one or the other and then the one they were hoping to use gets taken, but it would hardly be much of a hurdle.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Zookster on December 16, 2008, 01:25:27 PM
On the other hand, it can't hurt.

I am fictional.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 16, 2008, 01:25:54 PM
I'm a pub
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 16, 2008, 01:28:50 PM
I be fictional
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 16, 2008, 01:38:13 PM
Fiction is I.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on December 16, 2008, 03:02:57 PM
Non fiction
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 16, 2008, 03:04:20 PM
Non-fiction
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 16, 2008, 03:19:48 PM
*googles*

oh that's interesting.

I am real.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on December 16, 2008, 03:39:56 PM
So we be a coockermegaggle of fictional and real pirates?
ARGH! no help there it seems.

With this rc restriction I don't think we should go much further.... There's already 14 to lynch now.

So what now? No lynch?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 16, 2008, 04:06:54 PM
We makes the scurvy dogs that didn't answer walk the plank.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 16, 2008, 04:08:37 PM
So per Anach's revision, if the day ends in a no-lynch by reaching the deadline, than all extra votes carry over to the next day?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 16, 2008, 04:10:31 PM
I'd be lying if I said I didn't want at least one more RC before mafia are able to talk. : /

And on that note: vote: Morvis13   ... relatively new... if he is mafia he hasn't been able to talk with them yet. 

So per Anach's revision, if the day ends in a no-lynch by reaching the deadline, than all extra votes carry over to the next day?
All RCs add one to the needed amount of votes for a lynch, if we got 10 RCs, that would mean tomorrow we would automatically have one more vote needed than normal.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 16, 2008, 04:14:14 PM
Since I can't bold from my phone I would like to state that I strongly suggest pressure be added to Shin. :P

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 16, 2008, 04:18:26 PM
Since I can't bold from my phone I would like to state that I strongly suggest pressure be added to Shin. :P

You should be able to, just manually type the brackets.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 16, 2008, 04:22:56 PM
test!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 16, 2008, 04:24:16 PM
test!

fail /jk
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 16, 2008, 04:27:56 PM
test!

Square brackets [ and ]

Not angle brackets < or >
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 16, 2008, 04:34:36 PM
Let's finish up the fake/real pirate claims (shouldn't take much longer) before we move onto more bandwagons. No deadlines been set so we have plenty of time.

btw, Morvis did you claim a building? I would like to see that rc.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 16, 2008, 04:38:58 PM
Not just any building. I'm a pub!
Rum anyone?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 16, 2008, 04:43:29 PM
so... seriously?


Also, I'm non-fiction.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 16, 2008, 04:43:50 PM
And by non-fiction, I mean fiction >_>
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 16, 2008, 04:44:35 PM
So we be a coockermegaggle of fictional and real pirates?
ARGH! no help there it seems.

With this rc restriction I don't think we should go much further.... There's already 14 to lynch now.

So what now? No lynch?
Narr, lubber talk that is. 

1.  Finishing the fictional/non-fictional pirate claims do set limits on th'future scum RCs.
2.  If it's a no-lynch we be havin'(which it most likely be) 'tis best t'get as many RCs as the rules do allow afore scum have time to talk amongst themselves.\

Not just any building. I'm a pub!
Rum anyone?
He be after yer name mate.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 16, 2008, 04:51:25 PM
-___-
A building?
Again?
I thought Anachronism liked the simple style of games. Not the Tai Fung/smoking too much crack style ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 16, 2008, 04:55:39 PM
Aye! Me name be that of a pub. Grace O'Malley.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 16, 2008, 05:13:02 PM
Aye! Me name be that of a pub. Grace O'Malley.
Arrr it be a pirate afore it be a pub, matey... >.<
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on December 16, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
I be fictional.

...


Arrrrr

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: kikyo on December 16, 2008, 06:05:10 PM
I be fictional as well! And awesome!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 16, 2008, 07:27:54 PM
I be as real as the sunshine, arrrrrr!

And eff you Lee.  :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 16, 2008, 07:49:02 PM
Fictional ... I be.

This is actually exactly the type of thing I had in mind for that RC-info tier system I suggested in Sopranos before I was swiftly slaughtered.. When people RC from now on, we go back and cross check it with whether they said they were fictional or not on day 1. :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 16, 2008, 07:53:47 PM
Also, test!

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 16, 2008, 09:43:29 PM
I like being the pub more!
Rum all around
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on December 16, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
2.  If it's a no-lynch we be havin'(which it most likely be)

I be havin' a question about no-lynchin'.  Do we cast a vote fer no lynchin', or do we just not vote?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 16, 2008, 11:21:39 PM
There be 3 blokes that ain't said they be real or fictional.
Mr Ben, Wastrel and Sketchy.
M'Thinks that last one be least trustworthy.
P'Haps we be holding sword to Sketchy next!

Pressure: Sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on December 16, 2008, 11:30:15 PM
I be as real as the sunshine, arrrrrr!

And eff you Lee.  :(
<3
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 16, 2008, 11:36:25 PM
Also, test!

WIN!  ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 16, 2008, 11:54:27 PM
2.  If it's a no-lynch we be havin'(which it most likely be)

I be havin' a question about no-lynchin'.  Do we cast a vote fer no lynchin', or do we just not vote?
Aye, either can be done, days where nary a majority is to be had will end in no-lynch, but if we be after expeditin' things, we can bold ourselves a "no-lynch".

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 17, 2008, 10:50:53 AM
There be 3 blokes that ain't said they be real or fictional.
Mr Ben, Wastrel and Sketchy.
M'Thinks that last one be least trustworthy.
P'Haps we be holding sword to Sketchy next!

Oh, sorry, I thought I said already.

I am fictional.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on December 17, 2008, 11:35:38 AM
Mod note: Deadline in 22 and a half hours!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Zookster on December 17, 2008, 11:51:05 AM
Well, one more RC seems a good idea in these straitened circumstances.  The penalty won't carry over to tomorrow, and we are not expecting a lynch today anyway.

If anyone thinks I am suspicious for calling for this, no worries, I'll RC meself, but I suggest Sketchy.

Vote sketchy?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 17, 2008, 11:52:36 AM
sure.

vote: sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 17, 2008, 12:29:02 PM
vote: Sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 17, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
vote: sketchy

After the scalawag talks, what is the number of able crew our ship will need to sail to lynch island in the morrow.. Officially?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on December 17, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
Mod note: Noting that if the number of people required to lynch reaches the total number of players, if extra votes are needed, they carry over into the next day. This mass-rc circumventing is hard. :'(

With 4 RC's already, right now the total should need 4 extra votes, so it would technically now be 15 to lynch.  If sketchy RCs then we would need 16.  The number needed to lynch has not reached the number of people in the game yet, so no extra votes would carry over to tomorrow, unless we got a lot more RCs.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 17, 2008, 03:28:26 PM
If Sketchy doesn't RC today then I'm voting to lynch him tomorrow.  I don't think there is an RC out there that would make me think otherwise.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 17, 2008, 03:51:26 PM
I hate when the game gets held up like this.

Deadline's some time tomorrow, right?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 17, 2008, 03:54:42 PM
Noonish Eastern time I believe.
I won't be holding up the vote.

vote: Sketchy

If anybody needs me I'll be drinkin rum.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 17, 2008, 03:58:20 PM
unvote

vote:sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 17, 2008, 04:10:26 PM
*twiddles thumbs hooks*
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 17, 2008, 04:19:26 PM
[lubber talk]It's really best if we get as many RCs as we can today(we've got four and we can get up to nine without any votes carrying over) so I'm kind of wondering if we should wait a little bit(as in an hour or two) for Sketchy but then move on to someone else.  I'm trying to put some math together, but I'm pretty sure if we don't get enough RCs out within a certain number of days, the mafia could use the rule to start forcing no-lynches even when we seem to have a large number of townies alive.

All the new people have RC'd I think, but just for future reference: When you RC, just give your name, do not give your power, even if you don't have one, until pressured to do so.  The mafia will be looking for specials and in a B2B, we're not likely to have many investigative powers or protective roles, so it's important you don't narrow things down for them by declaring yourself a VT.[/lubbertalk]

Arr, we still be waitin' on Mr Ben for his fiction/non-fiction claim.  In the while:
pressure Sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 17, 2008, 04:25:44 PM
Me'Thinks my rum clouded mine doth not remember 1Pirates Role name.
That scallywag is pullin a fast one.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: sketchy on December 17, 2008, 06:24:20 PM
lollerskates -- I'm a real pirate.

2 points for the mod
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: sketchy on December 17, 2008, 06:27:24 PM
I've been sick AGAIN-- sorry for taking so long to post.  my whole concept was similar to the real/fake 'test' that we already went through. I thought of that before I even googled my name.  I'm solidly a pirate, but not the kind you might think of.  I go clicky clicky clicky, instead of yarrr matey
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: sketchy on December 17, 2008, 06:28:11 PM
I'll RC if you want me to, but it will just screw up the whole vote counting thingy.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 17, 2008, 06:55:07 PM
You're trying to say you're Kevin Mitnick or something?

out with it ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 17, 2008, 07:03:26 PM
[lubber talk(cause complicated math is not in the pirate's domain)]Okay, so it's not quite as bad as I thoughta day-by-day breakdown is a little tricky, so I'll just have to go with an example:

11players, 7 townies, 4 scum, 6 to lynch.
4 townies already RC'd.

 The mafia manages a bandwagon on an unRC'd townie(not difficult with four players) making:

7 to lynch. 

Now the town has a problem.  Getting one more RC will make it impossible to lynch scum.  So even with their best case scenario: they bandwagon mafia, the scum players gives an RC and now the town can't lynch without any mafia votes.  The day will end in a no-lynch, the mafia will kill someone that night and the next day:

10 players, 6 townies, 4 scum, 6 to lynch.

Now the town is boned.  Sure the other scum revealed who they all were the day before, but just one of them has to give an RC before all six townies throw their votes on one person(easy to do) and the town is once again unable to lynch, so the next day:

9 players, 5 townies, 4 scum, 5 to lynch.

The mafia again RCs one of their own and the town loses, as they will be unable to lynch from this point on.

The scenario I described above couldn't really happen in a normal game, the town might be able to pick off mafia with vig-kills, or lucky busdrives/roleblocks, not to mention SKs 

But in a B2B game(based on the last one), there won't be any vigilantes, bus-drivers, or Roleblockers(although we did have a jailkeeper in the last game, but he'd have to decide between protecting the townie most likely to be attacked or RBing the mafia most likely to be sent on the kill) so this scenario isn't all that improbable(I am making a few assumptions, such as the mod simply increasing the mafia size rather than adding an SK or a second mafia).[/lubber talk]

I'll RC if you want me to, but it will just screw up the whole vote counting thingy.
Narr, 'tis rubbish talk, we be at 4 RCs, we can managed up to 9 afore th'extra votes spill over to morrow
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 17, 2008, 07:16:11 PM
I've been sick AGAIN-- sorry for taking so long to post.  my whole concept was similar to the real/fake 'test' that we already went through. I thought of that before I even googled my name.  I'm solidly a pirate, but not the kind you might think of.  I go clicky clicky clicky, instead of yarrr matey

I can believe this.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: sketchy on December 17, 2008, 07:55:05 PM
You're trying to say you're Kevin Mitnick or something?

out with it ;)
so very very close -- more along the lines of someone who facilitates the ability to be a pirate.  I'd be the pirate admiral of the torrential fleet.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 17, 2008, 07:58:39 PM
Is it me or is 1Pirate avoiding my question, stalling and dazzling us with BS?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 17, 2008, 07:59:21 PM
I'm going to guess sketchy is shawn fanning.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 17, 2008, 08:00:10 PM
You're trying to say you're Kevin Mitnick or something?

out with it ;)
so very very close -- more along the lines of someone who facilitates the ability to be a pirate.  I'd be the pirate admiral of the torrential fleet.

Someone from ThePirateBay?

You might as well actually RC, I'm not going to believe you regardless but I want to see you do it ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 17, 2008, 08:07:20 PM
Is it me or is 1Pirate avoiding my question, stalling and dazzling us with BS?
Ye asked me no question, and I assumed ye'd seen the error in yer logic.

I be off to a pub quiz in the hopes of obtaining spirits in exchange for useless trivia, but Morvis best be reading over me advice regarding RCs and power claims and realize that were I scum, 'twould be best fer me to hold me peace on th'matter and say nary a word that I did.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: sketchy on December 17, 2008, 08:16:08 PM
I'm going to guess sketchy is shawn fanning.
nope -- he's old news.

I'm Bram Cohen
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 17, 2008, 08:25:57 PM
I'm going to guess sketchy is shawn fanning.
nope -- he's old news.

I'm Bram Cohen

Pr0n please??slash
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 17, 2008, 08:51:49 PM
Bram Cohen, although awesome, isn't a pirate (in any sense of the word.)  He did enable piracy, but besides originally being a stretch from the theme, it's even further a stretch from the play on the theme.

I swear to god, you're pulling a chewbacca >_<
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on December 17, 2008, 08:58:31 PM
I trust sketchy.  Oddly enough.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 17, 2008, 08:59:20 PM
I realize the balls it takes to complain about this, but in addition to the points you're raising about sketchy -- I have to say, that claim about being an effing building is a little much.

Sigh . . . I know, I know.

Anyway.  It wouldn't surprise me if the Mafia suggested that "building" claim since they had Karyn's role in The Sopranos to work off and establish a precedent for this one.

Anyway . . .  :-\

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on December 17, 2008, 09:09:03 PM
He claimed Grace O'Malley, who was a real person.  I think he made a mistake with the pub claim, thinking he was "Grace O'Malley's" :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 18, 2008, 01:15:05 AM
I swear to god, you're pulling a chewbacca >_<

 :D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Zookster on December 18, 2008, 03:28:01 AM
This is a back to basics game right?

I would expect all players to be real or fictional pirates, but definitely nautical pirates.

Personally.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 18, 2008, 07:05:45 AM
Hi everyone. Sorry for not posting during the last 24hrs or so, it was christmas day at my university, so i was drinking from about 9 in morning, wasted by 4 in the afternoon.

Sorry for holding everyone up.

I be purely fictional I do.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 18, 2008, 08:34:38 AM
Is it me or is 1Pirate avoiding my question, stalling and dazzling us with BS?
Ye asked me no question, and I assumed ye'd seen the error in yer logic.

I be off to a pub quiz in the hopes of obtaining spirits in exchange for useless trivia, but Morvis best be reading over me advice regarding RCs and power claims and realize that were I scum, 'twould be best fer me to hold me peace on th'matter and say nary a word that I did.

There can be no errors when the possibility of deceit is still in play.
Stop trying to avoid the question.
What IS be your pirate name?
 
Unvote
Vote: 1Pirate


Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on December 18, 2008, 10:29:57 AM
Day 1 ends with no one losing more than a foot or an eye (or their dignity).

Night actions due in 48 hours!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 1, send in actions]
Post by: Anachronism on December 20, 2008, 12:11:50 PM
Day 2 dawns with the death of Balthier.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/RockmanSRD/BalthierWants.jpg)

DEAD - Black_Magic - Balthier - Cop

Day ends in 70 hours. Go!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 20, 2008, 12:35:36 PM
Does anyone have someone they want to look at?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Black_Magic on December 20, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
You guys suck! >_<  Srsly.



 :'(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 20, 2008, 12:46:29 PM
Does anyone have someone they want to look at?

well the cop may have something to say.. oh wait, he's dead.

damn.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Karyn on December 20, 2008, 01:22:47 PM
I have absolutely no information for us.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Apharinde on December 20, 2008, 08:45:59 PM
Hey ho and a bottle of rum, drunk as a sailor can be...

Boomer!

No info to ad.

Going to bed... a bit dizzy, well it is a Saturday night! or Sunday morning...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Beleth on December 20, 2008, 08:51:39 PM
Okay, now what?  ???
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 20, 2008, 08:55:56 PM
Okay, now what?  ???

Someone with an night action investigative night action or a good hunch calls for someone's rc. If we've got no good hunches or investigative players with anything productive to report we can just go back to calling for random rcs.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 20, 2008, 09:04:10 PM
It's also a good idea to look back over the previous day and figure out why the kills in the night happened the way they did.  For example: why Black Magic?--obviously he was a cop, but did he do anything that revealed this fact?  Or was he putting undo pressure on someone?  Although at this stage of the game, the hit may very well have been random or deceptive(meant to make us suspicious of whoever he was suspicious of the previous day, in which case we may very well end up back with random RCs).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 20, 2008, 09:07:24 PM
Well there was this:

If Sketchy doesn't RC today then I'm voting to lynch him tomorrow.  I don't think there is an RC out there that would make me think otherwise.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 20, 2008, 09:11:00 PM
Well there was this:

If Sketchy doesn't RC today then I'm voting to lynch him tomorrow.  I don't think there is an RC out there that would make me think otherwise.

You found that awful quick...  :-\
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 20, 2008, 09:12:15 PM
Well there was this:

If Sketchy doesn't RC today then I'm voting to lynch him tomorrow.  I don't think there is an RC out there that would make me think otherwise.

we're probably going to lynch him anyway. Bram Cohen is way to big a stretch.

But there's still a long way before night so I'm hoping to get more info and am waiting for someone with something to go on.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on December 20, 2008, 09:18:45 PM
Well there was this:

If Sketchy doesn't RC today then I'm voting to lynch him tomorrow.  I don't think there is an RC out there that would make me think otherwise.

You found that awful quick...  :-\

I've been taking notes. :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: kikyo on December 20, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
I don't know, that's an awfully queer RC, even for Sketchy. I would expect Sketchy to pick an actual pirate but then claim that he has a treasure map that he receives clues from each night that will help us in the game.

And if anyone does say that, I'm lynching you.

I am definitely keeping sketchy as a question mark but I'd like to hear from one or two others first. I have no particular suspicion based on night actions, so I am going to:

Vote: Neutral Milk

If anyone has a better idea, I'd be happy to change gears.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: lobster5 on December 20, 2008, 09:36:47 PM
I welcome a return to the days where we lynch Sketchy on general principle ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 20, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
If anyone has a better idea, I'd be happy to change gears.

I would really like to have 1Pirate RC.
He seems to be avoiding the question of his identity a little too carefully.

pressure: 1Pirate
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 20, 2008, 11:22:09 PM
If anyone has a better idea, I'd be happy to change gears.

I would really like to have 1Pirate RC.
He seems to be avoiding the question of his identity a little too carefully.

pressure: 1Pirate
If this weren't your first game, I'd be convinced you were mafia because of your poor line of thinking, and would consider your pressure a scum driven bandwagon. 

Basically, here's how I see things:

This was your last post before you accused me of being scum
Noonish Eastern time I believe.
I won't be holding up the vote.

vote: Sketchy

If anybody needs me I'll be drinkin rum.

Then I made this post:

[lubber talk]It's really best if we get as many RCs as we can today(we've got four and we can get up to nine without any votes carrying over) so I'm kind of wondering if we should wait a little bit(as in an hour or two) for Sketchy but then move on to someone else.  I'm trying to put some math together, but I'm pretty sure if we don't get enough RCs out within a certain number of days, the mafia could use the rule to start forcing no-lynches even when we seem to have a large number of townies alive.

All the new people have RC'd I think, but just for future reference: When you RC, just give your name, do not give your power, even if you don't have one, until pressured to do so.  The mafia will be looking for specials and in a B2B, we're not likely to have many investigative powers or protective roles, so it's important you don't narrow things down for them by declaring yourself a VT.[/lubbertalk]

Arr, we still be waitin' on Mr Ben for his fiction/non-fiction claim.  In the while:
pressure Sketchy

Now, I did indicate that, in the interests of gathering as many RCs as possible, we should move past Sketchy if he didn't respond soon, but I did throw a pressure on him in the end.  However, my second paragraph concerning the importance of not power claiming unless necessary is counter-productive if I'm scum.  Were I scum, I'd want all the VTs to say so when they RC so I can narrow down the field of possible cops(or docs) and kill them before they can reveal any investigation results.

Yet somehow, you suddenly abandon Sketchy and start putting pressure on me:

Me'Thinks my rum clouded mine doth not remember 1Pirates Role name.
That scallywag is pullin a fast one.

Since then, your entire rationale for my RC has been "He won't tell me who he is".  That's it, nothing else.  Players are not going to RC just because one or two people ask.  For all I know, you could very well be scum thinking that I might be another cop and are trying to force me out in the open.  Sometimes a bandwagon might seem inevitable(we had some of that yesterday) and a player will RC before all the votes and pressures come in, but by and large, you wait until the number of votes and pressures is greater than the likely number of remaining mafia before RCing(otherwise you're letting the mafia control the game).

Quite frankly you're reminding me of SnarlPatrick in the Battle Royale mafia who jumped down my throat (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,9347.msg217589.html#msg217589) after I made a reasonable suggestion(and for those of you that don't remember, SnarlPatrick was mafia in that game), but I think it's more likely that you're new at this and don't realize that what I'm doing isn't all that abnormal.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Beleth on December 20, 2008, 11:30:18 PM
The best defense is an offense that doth protest too much, eh, 1Pirate?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: kikyo on December 21, 2008, 03:38:05 AM
I welcome a return to the days where we lynch Sketchy on general principle ;)

It's more fun to wait for his RC and force him to photoshop business cards to try to be convincing. ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Apharinde on December 21, 2008, 05:32:35 PM
It is a slow game so far, probably because of the holiday...

I'll try check in here from time to time during the following week, at least once a day... but you now how it is during the holidays.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 21, 2008, 05:35:48 PM
Whatever, I'll go along with Kikyo's for now.

vote: Neutral Milk
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 21, 2008, 09:15:18 PM
Just keep stalling 1Pirate. It only makes you look guilty.
What do you have to hide? Why won't you tell us?
Or maybe you just need more time to research a convincing cover name?
Maybe I've found us our ninja!

If you are innocent you have nothing to fear.
If you are guilty I will be your next victim.

vote: 1Pirate

Get the bloody b@stid!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 21, 2008, 09:42:22 PM
Game's obviously going slow because of the holidays. I wouldn't expect it to pick up until after christmas at the earliest or after new years at the latest.

In any case I won't RC based on two votes from non-confirmed townies. I have no problem RCing if it comes down to it, but in this game more than any I'm gonna require more pressure before I come out with an RC.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 21, 2008, 10:44:39 PM
Join me in pressuring 1Pirate into an RC.
And when he does don't believe it and lynch him. :D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Zookster on December 22, 2008, 04:20:08 AM
If this is really Morvis's first game, he/she is being very very aggressive.  I was way too intimidated to behave like that in my first game.

One could argue 2 ways from that.

1:  It is very overt and if they were scum they would lie a bit lower to see how it works, taking cues from fellow scummers.

2.  The fellow scum are suggesting he act large because it is a sign he is not afraid of drawing attention.

In the meantime, I'll join in on NM, but for no specific reason, just to move things along a bit.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: mickal777 on December 22, 2008, 07:20:41 AM
Join me in pressuring 1Pirate into an RC.
And when he does don't believe it and lynch him. :D

How about we do this.

Then lynch you if he turns out to be town
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 22, 2008, 08:16:09 AM
Well this is going nowhere. I'm still not gonna RC until I see some numbers that tell us how many RCs will be useful for us to get before it becomes too much, or until there's enough pressure on my head.  I don't think it should be much more than 2 RCs today, and I understand if I have to be one of them because of the will of the gods of the die.

I've still only got two votes and one 'I'll join in but then forget to actually vote'.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: lobster5 on December 22, 2008, 08:29:41 AM
None of the bandwagons interest me at the moment, and with no power claims or way to judge RCs yet we're on a slow course to Stagnant Island.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 22, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
None of the bandwagons interest me at the moment, and with no power claims or way to judge RCs yet we're on a slow course to Stagnant Island.

Like I said, it's the holidays.. It won't pick up until at least friday, and quite possibly not until after new years.

What can ya do.

We'll almost definitely need an extension on this game.. I'm not sure if there's a deadline yet.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 22, 2008, 08:35:03 AM
"on this day" not "on this game"
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Zookster on December 22, 2008, 08:45:06 AM
and one 'I'll join in but then forget to actually vote'.

Hahaha, sorry.

vote: NM
For no paerticular reason.

I am here until Wednesday, then winter hols for 18 days.  If this is a problem (it could be if most people are around) I will RC and leave you guys to lynch me if you just want to get rid of a tempoaraily inactive player.

We can talk about this tomorrow (real world tomorow, not game tomorrow).

Z
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: sketchy on December 22, 2008, 08:52:28 AM
Well there was this:

If Sketchy doesn't RC today then I'm voting to lynch him tomorrow.  I don't think there is an RC out there that would make me think otherwise.
I did RC
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: sketchy on December 22, 2008, 08:53:10 AM
I welcome a return to the days where we lynch Sketchy on general principle ;)
you suck :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 22, 2008, 08:53:25 AM
If this is really Morvis's first game, he/she is being very very aggressive.  I was way too intimidated to behave like that in my first game.

One could argue 2 ways from that.

1:  It is very overt and if they were scum they would lie a bit lower to see how it works, taking cues from fellow scummers.

2.  The fellow scum are suggesting he act large because it is a sign he is not afraid of drawing attention.

In the meantime, I'll join in on NM, but for no specific reason, just to move things along a bit.

Aye this be me first game here but I be sure there are more arguments then that. As the n00b I'm certain of my pirate status. We've already heard my RC and I see no reason for anyone innocent to hold back on their RC.

The pressure for resolving the mystery seems to be coming from a few secretive conspirators. The ninja's will know who they are so the list of casualties will only be made easier by these rogues. The enemy will be the one we least suspect.

We've got a list of people to discover their identities. Since I know I'm innocent I'd like to eliminate a few more people off my list. My prime suspect now is anyone with something to hide.

My pressure shall stay until I'm either dead or satisfied of someones innocents. I don't have any reason to back off.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Anachronism on December 22, 2008, 09:06:29 AM
Mod note: I could extend this day until post-NYs, but that's like 10 more days from nao. :P And Zook would apparently still not get back before the day ends.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 22, 2008, 09:50:55 AM
Do we need a unanimous decision for lynching or just a majority?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 22, 2008, 09:52:13 AM
Do we need a unanimous decision for lynching or just a majority?

majority. See that number next to Day 1 in the title? That's usually where the mod puts the number needed to reach a lynch.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: wastrel on December 22, 2008, 10:21:42 AM
Do we need a unanimous decision for lynching or just a majority?

Also bear in mind that for each RC we get, the number of votes required for a lynch increases by one.

That's the only reason we are not seeing any enthusiastic bandwagoners today.  The first hope is that someone would have learned something in the night.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 22, 2008, 10:25:26 AM
Great I need to convince 10 people to help me tie the rope and sling it over the yardarm.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: wastrel on December 22, 2008, 10:31:24 AM
Great I need to convince 10 people to help me tie the rope and sling it over the yardarm.

Anyone?

It would help to argue an actual reason, rather than throwing out randoms calls to lynch.

If you have something to report, do so.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: kikyo on December 22, 2008, 11:38:24 AM
Yeah, this is the thing. I would very much like it if someone would derail my random bandwagon by one based on something, but so far the only competing bandwagon is on 1Pirate by Morvis13. It doesn't seem like anyone has any info so we've got very little to go on, but I was hoping and still am hoping that the conversation stirred up by the random bandwagon and Morvis's competing one results in some direction.

Morvis's reasons are not totally convincing to me, but I may be willing to actually go along with it if nothing else comes up, actually. The reason would be that if 1Pirate "wins" this round and gets away with not RCing it may give him an air of credibility he hasn't actually earned. I have no particular reason to be suspicious of him yet, but I also have no reason to think he's definitely town, so I don't want us to fall prey to the subconscious feeling that he's innocent just because we decide not to go with the pressure on him.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 22, 2008, 12:07:11 PM
I'm not sure how I can convince you. All I'm saying is there is a reason 1Pirate is hiding his identity. Maybe its behind a black cowl with throwing stars on his hips. It is the constant evasion of the direct accusation that incriminates him in my mind.

Sure he has 'Pirate' in his login id but that only makes him the MOST likely in my mind. Who would suspect a login like that as a ninja?

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 22, 2008, 12:07:51 PM
Mafia games do seem to be slowing down.  And while Morvis is a new player, he's got that "Pip Squeek" flair to him that makes me think he's dangerous even if he's town (note to newbies:  Pip is a former Mafia player).  So let's pressure 1Pirate after all, and even if we lynch him and he's town, we can then just turn around and whack Morvis and be done with him (which is how I used to like to deal with Pip as well!).  ;)

Vote:  1Pirate
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: Sandwich on December 22, 2008, 12:27:37 PM
Morvis's reasons are not totally convincing to me, but I may be willing to actually go along with it if nothing else comes up, actually. The reason would be that if 1Pirate "wins" this round and gets away with not RCing it may give him an air of credibility he hasn't actually earned. I have no particular reason to be suspicious of him yet, but I also have no reason to think he's definitely town, so I don't want us to fall prey to the subconscious feeling that he's innocent just because we decide not to go with the pressure on him.

I'll admit I've been ignoring Morvis because his reigning logic in voting for 1pirate is because "he has 'Pirate' in his login id."

I'll also admit I've had to lend 1pirate a bit of credibility to spite Morvis.  :P

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 22, 2008, 01:35:42 PM
Pardon me but the pirate login ID was only in my last message and you've probably been ignoring me longer then that. Go back and look at how that scurvy dog is avoiding a simple question of his identity then ask yourself why?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 22, 2008, 01:51:18 PM
I've already given my reasons for ignoring Morvis, he hasn't come up with anything new: 

Basically, here's how I see things:

This was your last post before you accused me of being scum
Noonish Eastern time I believe.
I won't be holding up the vote.

vote: Sketchy

If anybody needs me I'll be drinkin rum.

Then I made this post:

[lubber talk]It's really best if we get as many RCs as we can today(we've got four and we can get up to nine without any votes carrying over) so I'm kind of wondering if we should wait a little bit(as in an hour or two) for Sketchy but then move on to someone else.  I'm trying to put some math together, but I'm pretty sure if we don't get enough RCs out within a certain number of days, the mafia could use the rule to start forcing no-lynches even when we seem to have a large number of townies alive.

All the new people have RC'd I think, but just for future reference: When you RC, just give your name, do not give your power, even if you don't have one, until pressured to do so.  The mafia will be looking for specials and in a B2B, we're not likely to have many investigative powers or protective roles, so it's important you don't narrow things down for them by declaring yourself a VT.[/lubbertalk]

Arr, we still be waitin' on Mr Ben for his fiction/non-fiction claim.  In the while:
pressure Sketchy

Now, I did indicate that, in the interests of gathering as many RCs as possible, we should move past Sketchy if he didn't respond soon, but I did throw a pressure on him in the end.  However, my second paragraph concerning the importance of not power claiming unless necessary is counter-productive if I'm scum.  Were I scum, I'd want all the VTs to say so when they RC so I can narrow down the field of possible cops(or docs) and kill them before they can reveal any investigation results.

Yet somehow, you suddenly abandon Sketchy and start putting pressure on me:

Me'Thinks my rum clouded mine doth not remember 1Pirates Role name.
That scallywag is pullin a fast one.

Since then, your entire rationale for my RC has been "He won't tell me who he is".  That's it, nothing else.  Players are not going to RC just because one or two people ask.  For all I know, you could very well be scum thinking that I might be another cop and are trying to force me out in the open.  Sometimes a bandwagon might seem inevitable(we had some of that yesterday) and a player will RC before all the votes and pressures come in, but by and large, you wait until the number of votes and pressures is greater than the likely number of remaining mafia before RCing(otherwise you're letting the mafia control the game).


Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on December 22, 2008, 02:13:58 PM
Pardon me but the pirate login ID was only in my last message and you've probably been ignoring me longer then that. Go back and look at how that scurvy dog is avoiding a simple question of his identity then ask yourself why?

I have. 

It is either because there is hardly any pressure on him, and every RC adds one to the number we need to lynch, or he is scum.

I will join a BW once all options are gone.  All options are not gone yet since we still have some people left to check in.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 22, 2008, 02:18:12 PM
So let's pressure 1Pirate after all, and even if we lynch him and he's town, we can then just turn around and whack Morvis and be done with him (which is how I used to like to deal with Pip as well!).  ;)

I don't know about you all but unless someone comes up with something solid my lynch vote is going to be for Sketchy. No thoughts on this 1Pirate vs Morvis thing. How's about we get Long John to decide who'll be the next rc?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on December 22, 2008, 03:17:53 PM
I trust Sketchy atm. The RC does sound like a stretch but I doubt he would come up with something so risky and far out as a fake RC... Then again... Sketchy....

I can't see anything overtly solid to pressure someone, but I think we do need another RC for the day before deciding on a lynch. So...

vote: Tai Fung

Yah... cuz... you know... he has a Chinese bank nickname and I mean... that's close to Japan... and ninjas...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 22, 2008, 03:21:34 PM
unvote

vote: Tai Fung
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 22, 2008, 03:48:04 PM
pressure Tai Fung

Generally we lynched Pip Squeek when he misbehaved, we didn't follow his bandwagons and lynch on them.  Rewarding people for bad play is, well bad play.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 22, 2008, 04:03:44 PM
lol, sounds like i should be glad i was never in a game with pip.

oh, and morvis: your reasoning sucks. pressuring random people just cos isnt good. we like to wait to see if people are sneaky/quiet, so that we dont out cops etc by accident.

vote: Tai Fung
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 22, 2008, 04:07:24 PM
So if I'm not quiet I can stay alive. Good to know.
also good to know that if I lynch a townie by accident then I'll be next in line.

Not changing my vote
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 22, 2008, 04:35:33 PM
I'm Jean Lafitte, the most excellent pirate of New Orleans.  Now show me your bewbs if you want these beads!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on December 22, 2008, 04:52:08 PM
I'm Jean Lafitte, the most excellent pirate of New Orleans.  Now show me your bewbs if you want these beads!

This doesn't sit right with me.

He's not really from the golden age of piracy, I wasn't sure about the whole "let's lynch 2 townies" plan he suggested going for.

And my scum sense is tingling...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 22, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
lol, your scum sense is always tingling

and you cant exactly call my RC from the 'golden age' of piracy. or that anime RC that appeared a few pages back
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 22, 2008, 05:28:40 PM
Not to make more work for you Anach, but could you post the number needed to lynch when it changes?(or maybe do an update with the vote counts?)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 22, 2008, 05:59:58 PM
He's not really from the golden age of piracy, I wasn't sure about the whole "let's lynch 2 townies" plan he suggested going for.


That is a TOTAL strawman argument.  I never --not once-- had a "let's lynch 2 townies" plan.  I simply said we could force 1Pirate to RC like Morvis wanted, and then if 1Pirate ended up lynched, and ended up being town, THEN we could lynch Morvis.  That's NOT a plan to lynch 2 townies -- not even close.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: kikyo on December 22, 2008, 06:40:26 PM
Hmm ... why were we pressuring Tai Fung? As far as I can tell it was just as random as any other bandwagon. Before we move on, I'd like to make note of the fact that this bandwagon was every bit as random as my proposed bandwagon and yet certain people jumped right on it, leading to an RC which means we now have our vote count needed for lynch adjusted.

1Pirate in fact, jumped on this random bandwagon while scolding someone else for starting a random bandwagon on himself. And it is random: "Tai Fung is kind of Chinese which is sort of close to ninjas" is not real reasoning any more than "1Pirate has pirate in his name and therefore it's probably a trick." I'm not pointing the finger at any particular one of the people who just did a rush bandwagon of TF but I've made a note of it for sure.

I am going to unvote while we figure out what to do next.

As far as the golden age of pirates, well, my character is a pirate in the traditional sense of the word but is NOT from the golden age of pirates - erm ... whatever that is? What's the golden age of pirates? Jean Lafitte is from the 1800s and I'd say that's pretty pirate-y times still. He's also pretty cool, so I hope it's a real RC, although honestly someone could just pick a pirate, I guess and hope it's not in the game. 
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 22, 2008, 07:24:16 PM
I gave my reasons for the Tai Fung bandwagon:

Generally we lynched Pip Squeek when he misbehaved, we didn't follow his bandwagons and lynch on them.  Rewarding people for bad play is, well bad play.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: kikyo on December 22, 2008, 08:26:11 PM
Fair enough, but some other people didn't seem to have such reasons. Also ... don't think I didn't make a note of TF himself. He caved easily after a couple of votes. Knowing that the more RCs we get the harder it is to lynch makes it important for townies to hold out and wait for town to get focused and decide who to really pressure.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 22, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
Just an fyi to that last point - since we have to log in now to read this forum, I was concerned about someone saying "hey he has logged in since we called for his RC and he didn't so lynch him."  So I did it while I was still at work (shopping now at Borders).  I hadn't considered the more-rcs-more-votes thing.  :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Casper on December 22, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Lafitte sounds solid to me. I dunno if people want another RC or if we should go to lynch mode so we don't pile too many extra votes. From the present calls I guess I'd lynch "The Queen of the Sea" Morvis. Just being a bit too overtly pushy.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: lobster5 on December 22, 2008, 10:44:20 PM
If we're going to lynch anyone of the current outed pack it should be sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 22, 2008, 11:06:32 PM
I disagree.  I'm inclined to believe Sketchy's rc for now.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: mickal777 on December 23, 2008, 12:01:39 AM
I've learnt that if sketchy has a sketchy RC it's best to lynch him...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on December 23, 2008, 02:39:55 AM
Okay so Black_Magic was a pirate from Final Fantasy XII...  Here is the breakdown of who has RC'd so far.

Fictional

Anime and Video Games

13. Black_Magic - DEAD - Balthier, Cop
20. Beleth - CLAIMS - Monkey D. Luffy, VT

Books

3. Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT

Real

12. Morvis13 - CLAIMS - Grace O'Malley (1530 – 1603)
15. Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts (1682 – 1722)
19.  Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte (1776 – 1826)

People who enable others to perform piracy

17. sketchy - CLAIMS - Bram Cohen
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Zookster on December 23, 2008, 03:41:00 AM
Again, this is a back to basics game.  That usually means reasoning, logic, and painstaking elimination of suspects.

It seems unlikely to mean 'contains a play on words on the theme that just happened to hand a weird role to the person famous for making outrageous claims'.

It is always possible that Sketchy is lying for legitimate operational townlike reasons, but it seems very likly he is lying, no?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 07:48:23 AM
Why wouldn't we want to know the role of the one who is most adamant about reveling?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 23, 2008, 07:50:05 AM
because you havent really come up with a better reason than he has pirate in his name, then he ignored your BW started due to crappy reasons, and we havent seen any reason why he might be scum, n he may have a useful power.

fairly simple
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 23, 2008, 09:41:38 AM
I am defending sketchy because I am not all that different from him.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 10:35:17 AM
I guess the Devil you don't know is better then ... wait that's not how the saying goes.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. (Unless they have a hidden agenda)

Do we know how many Ninja's we're dealing with?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 23, 2008, 10:43:25 AM
probably about 4 or 5

and im not defending 1pirate. its just im against crappy reasoning, especially in this game where random RCs are just gonna make it harder to lynch
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 23, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
oh, and its been a while since we had pirate talk, so

YARRR
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 10:57:20 AM
I guess the Devil you don't know is better then ... wait that's not how the saying goes.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. (Unless they have a hidden agenda)

A very moot point when you have given no reason whatsoever to consider 1pirate a bad guy.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 11:00:36 AM
probably about 4 or 5

and im not defending 1pirate. its just im against crappy reasoning, especially in this game where random RCs are just gonna make it harder to lynch
A very moot point when you have given no reason whatsoever to consider 1pirate a bad guy.

I'm open to hear your ideas on how we proceed.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Zookster on December 23, 2008, 11:15:47 AM


I'm open to hear your ideas on how we proceed.

That is the most valid point you have raised so far.  Our info is horribly limited.

We will certainly have another cop, but he will naturally be loath to reveal himself now, after the (lucky?) killing of our other cop last night.

I would point out to said cop that he could likely be protected if he had any real info as a B2B game would almost certaibly have a doctor.  There may also be a busdriver, but IIRC, Anach is in the camp that feels they mess up the pure logic of the game.

Z

P.S. I am in this game for 22 more hours, then off for 18 days,  I may be able to check in on 26th and 27th dec.

If the town want me to RC before I go, let me know by tomorrow morning......
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 11:21:02 AM
It is already 11 to lynch, another RC will make it twelve.

We can either proceed with a lynch on an RC we already have, or go after at most one more RC.  I doubt we can rally 12 votes, but 13 seems near impossible.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 23, 2008, 11:29:38 AM
P.S. I am in this game for 22 more hours, then off for 18 days,  I may be able to check in on 26th and 27th dec.

Does this mean you're going to be unable to post at all for 18 days (except the 26/27), or you have a vacation coming and WILL be able to post a lot more?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Zookster on December 23, 2008, 11:50:18 AM
P.S. I am in this game for 22 more hours, then off for 18 days,  I may be able to check in on 26th and 27th dec.

Does this mean you're going to be unable to post at all for 18 days (except the 26/27), or you have a vacation coming and WILL be able to post a lot more?

I will be away from the interwb for nearly 18 straight days.

I fully understand if this makes me a millstone on town necks.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 11:55:53 AM
P.S. I am in this game for 22 more hours, then off for 18 days,  I may be able to check in on 26th and 27th dec.

Does this mean you're going to be unable to post at all for 18 days (except the 26/27), or you have a vacation coming and WILL be able to post a lot more?

I will be away from the interwb for nearly 18 straight days.

I fully understand if this makes me a millstone on town necks.

May want to consider giving up your spot to a sub.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 23, 2008, 12:12:42 PM
I don't see more rcs as a problem. Like someone said yesterday if we wait to long to get them out mafia can just start rcing when our numbers are lower forcing no lynches. And with the holidays I don't think they'll have to do much to stall long enough for night. But if you guys are convinced rcing is a terrible idea how's about we lynch sketchy and move on to night when we'll hopefully be able to get the data we need?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 12:17:04 PM
I don't see more rcs as a problem. Like someone said yesterday if we wait to long to get them out mafia can just start rcing when our numbers are lower forcing no lynches. And with the holidays I don't think they'll have to do much to stall long enough for night. But if you guys are convinced rcing is a terrible idea how's about we lynch sketchy and move on to night when we'll hopefully be able to get the data we need?

I don't think it is a horrible idea, I just don't think BWs can be as random as they normally are.

And Morvis's BW is decidedly random.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 23, 2008, 12:22:52 PM
Sadly my pirate knowledge is a little lacking, so Im struggling to sort fake pirates from the real, especially when theyre not all real.

Im tempted to lynch Tai Fung though, purely because Jean Lafitte is French.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 23, 2008, 12:23:25 PM
I don't see more rcs as a problem. Like someone said yesterday if we wait to long to get them out mafia can just start rcing when our numbers are lower forcing no lynches. And with the holidays I don't think they'll have to do much to stall long enough for night. But if you guys are convinced rcing is a terrible idea how's about we lynch sketchy and move on to night when we'll hopefully be able to get the data we need?

I don't think it is a horrible idea, I just don't think BWs can be as random as they normally are.

And Morvis's BW is decidedly random.

But we haven't anything to go on so all bandwagons are going to be random, aren't they?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 12:42:43 PM
I don't see more rcs as a problem. Like someone said yesterday if we wait to long to get them out mafia can just start rcing when our numbers are lower forcing no lynches. And with the holidays I don't think they'll have to do much to stall long enough for night. But if you guys are convinced rcing is a terrible idea how's about we lynch sketchy and move on to night when we'll hopefully be able to get the data we need?

I don't think it is a horrible idea, I just don't think BWs can be as random as they normally are.

And Morvis's BW is decidedly random.

But we haven't anything to go on so all bandwagons are going to be random, aren't they?

That's what I thought.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Zookster on December 23, 2008, 12:49:54 PM
P.S. I am in this game for 22 more hours, then off for 18 days,  I may be able to check in on 26th and 27th dec.

Does this mean you're going to be unable to post at all for 18 days (except the 26/27), or you have a vacation coming and WILL be able to post a lot more?

I will be away from the interwb for nearly 18 straight days.

I fully understand if this makes me a millstone on town necks.

May want to consider giving up your spot to a sub.

If someone is available I will go with that........

I will PM Anach, too.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 12:50:57 PM
I don't see more rcs as a problem. Like someone said yesterday if we wait to long to get them out mafia can just start rcing when our numbers are lower forcing no lynches. And with the holidays I don't think they'll have to do much to stall long enough for night. But if you guys are convinced rcing is a terrible idea how's about we lynch sketchy and move on to night when we'll hopefully be able to get the data we need?

I don't think it is a horrible idea, I just don't think BWs can be as random as they normally are.

And Morvis's BW is decidedly random.

But we haven't anything to go on so all bandwagons are going to be random, aren't they?

That's what I thought.

That's not how you have continually presented it.

You have been super sure pirate is scum with no reasoning behind it.  You wanted to push for a random BW before a fraction of players had checked in.  You have still given no reason to think it is a good BW, and are only now claiming it is random.

It is a different situation than it was yesterday.  Enough people have checked in, so it is time to either lynch one of the RC'd players, or push for another RC.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: lobster5 on December 23, 2008, 12:51:44 PM
The problem with more RCs at the moment is we don't really have a clue what pirates are legit and what are not.

The reason I want to lynch Sketchy is that there's a possibility it will close down a whole avenue of fake RCs. We need to find out if we can get a better grip on what is a good RC and what is not, particularly when the game mechanic is designed to make us only want a few RCS per day.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 01:05:35 PM
That's not how you have continually presented it.

You have been super sure pirate is scum with no reasoning behind it.  You wanted to push for a random BW before a fraction of players had checked in.  You have still given no reason to think it is a good BW, and are only now claiming it is random.

It is a different situation than it was yesterday.  Enough people have checked in, so it is time to either lynch one of the RC'd players, or push for another RC.

No I've continued to say that his insistence on the secrecy of his identity is suspicious.

I've not seen anyone deny the RC so strongly. I don't understand why you'd defend him until you know his innocence.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 01:17:00 PM
That's not how you have continually presented it.

You have been super sure pirate is scum with no reasoning behind it.  You wanted to push for a random BW before a fraction of players had checked in.  You have still given no reason to think it is a good BW, and are only now claiming it is random.

It is a different situation than it was yesterday.  Enough people have checked in, so it is time to either lynch one of the RC'd players, or push for another RC.

No I've continued to say that his insistence on the secrecy of his identity is suspicious.

I've not seen anyone deny the RC so strongly. I don't understand why you'd defend him until you know his innocence.

I'm not defending him specifically.

I'm trying to nip random BW's early in the day to avoid making a lynch impossible.

Had it been anyone, I would defend them in the same way.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 01:23:00 PM
Ok so we've smacked down all the BW what do we ride to the lynching?

I'm open to hear your ideas on how we proceed.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 01:33:43 PM
I'm not totally opposed random BW now that people have checked in an apparently no one has news to report.  I still feel like we shouldn't get another RC today though, for fear of a no-lynch at day's end.

Sketchy's RC seems the most off to me.  It is not quite as ridiculous as some roles he's come up with, but it is definitely in his wheel house to make it up.

I don't remember a power claim from him, but I am leaning toward a sketchy lynch.

vote: sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 01:38:05 PM
Before we jump on that random BW could I ask you why karyn would be convinced of his innocent and you are not?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 01:42:19 PM
Before we jump on that random BW could I ask you why karyn would be convinced of his innocent and you are not?

It isn't a random BW.  I am saying a lynch based on the RC he already gave.

I must have missed Karyn's post.  Let me go reread.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 01:44:02 PM
I disagree.  I'm inclined to believe Sketchy's rc for now.

I am defending sketchy because I am not all that different from him.

OK, I see this now.

Karyn, can you clarify without giving your role name?

Is it that you are related to internet piracy, or that you are from the modern age?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 23, 2008, 01:45:28 PM
Before we jump on that random BW could I ask you why karyn would be convinced of his innocent and you are not?

Ain't no random to it, Miss O'Malley. He claims to be Bram Cohen who not be a pirate by any meanin' o' the word.


vote: sketchy


I am defending sketchy because I am not all that different from him.

Aye. Do ya mean yer rc be much the same as his or somethin' else, miss?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 23, 2008, 01:46:02 PM
it's related to internet piracy.  Obviously, that doesn't mean that I support sketchy 100%, just that I don't think his rc is that sketchy.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 23, 2008, 01:51:39 PM
it's related to internet piracy.  Obviously, that doesn't mean that I support sketchy 100%, just that I don't think his rc is that sketchy.

I'm still inclined to lynch sketchy today. Like lobster said it can help narrow down the list of what's an ok rc and what isn't. If nothing else it'll bring this slow day to a close and give those of us with night actions an opportunity to investigate.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 23, 2008, 01:53:22 PM
well, I don't exactly have a better option for us, anyway.  I wish I did.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Casper on December 23, 2008, 01:54:22 PM
I don't know if we would have 2 internet piracy related roles in the game. Now I'm trying to figure out if this is possible: sketchy is telling the truth and karyn is scum riling for a fake RC based on internet pirates, by defending sketchy and knowing that probably we would go for him first it would almost validate a fake RC who was already defending him and is related.... I don't know if that makes sense  :-\
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: wastrel on December 23, 2008, 01:56:31 PM
I don't know if we would have 2 internet piracy related roles in the game. Now I'm trying to figure out if this is possible: sketchy is telling the truth and karyn is scum riling for a fake RC based on internet pirates, by defending sketchy and knowing that probably we would go for him first it would almost validate a fake RC who was already defending him and is related.... I don't know if that makes sense  :-\

It does make sense, but I don't know if we want to follow that road today.

I hope BM wasn't our only cop.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 23, 2008, 02:01:13 PM
it doesn't.  If sketchy turns out to be scum, it only makes me look evil.  If I'm mafia, I wouldn't be defending him at this stage in the game, or I'd be trying to deflect the bandwagon to someone else.  If I'm town, I'm only defending him because then at least I look less scummy.  But that goes back to the WIFOM thing, doesn't it ;)

I can't ever tell who is scum and who isn't by the things they say.  I find it to be about the most useless method of discovery out there.  I'm tempted to go back to all the previous games and track the level of accuracy in people's assumptions based on chatter.  I bet it's pretty shitty.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 23, 2008, 02:02:36 PM

I would point out to said cop that he could likely be protected if he had any real info as a B2B game would almost certainly have a doctor.  There may also be a busdriver, but IIRC, Anach is in the camp that feels they mess up the pure logic of the game.


Counter point:  There's only been one night for investigations, so the cops don't know if they're naive, paranoid, insane, or normal yet(and given that Black Magic turned out to be a regular cop, that increases the chances that they are not a normal cop).  Additionally, we didn't have a straight up doc in the last B2B game, we had a jailkeeper who roleblocks anyone he protects, so we won't necessarily be able to protect any cops that do come forward today.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 23, 2008, 02:04:23 PM
Sketchy's RC was sufficiently "out there" that it combines the reliability of not accidentally hitting on a famous "real" pirate with an early RC, and being unique enough that it has a plausible tone.  Therefore, it's a good potential fake RC.

Plus, I agree with the point earlier that with the days this slow to progress, we need to just do something and get the day ended, to let more night actions see if they come up with anything better.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 02:05:27 PM
So why don't we eliminate someone that hasn't RC so we can remove a choice from the list of suspects? Why not take someone off the list that has been mostly silent?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 23, 2008, 02:06:18 PM
So why don't we eliminate someone that hasn't RC so we can remove a choice from the list of suspects? Why not take someone off the list that has been mostly silent?

You mean lynch someone without them RCing at all?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Casper on December 23, 2008, 02:25:32 PM
So why don't we eliminate someone that hasn't RC so we can remove a choice from the list of suspects? Why not take someone off the list that has been mostly silent?

That just makes no sense. Besides it's holidays week, I'm not surprised with some silence.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 02:32:58 PM
So why don't we eliminate someone that hasn't RC so we can remove a choice from the list of suspects? Why not take someone off the list that has been mostly silent?

You mean lynch someone without them RCing at all?

Yep. You don't speak up for your innocence you get to walk the plank.

We get the RC after they are dead with a good probability of accidentally killing a ninja just like they accidentally got the cop. If we kill a townie it reduces our probability of kill another townie. If we take out a less active player our chances of getting a hiding ninja are increased. Plus the added bonus of reducing our suspect list.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 23, 2008, 03:11:43 PM
I never unvoted on Tai

unvote

vote: Sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 23, 2008, 03:49:53 PM
unvote

vote: Sketchy


lets get this done
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on December 23, 2008, 03:57:46 PM
I don't think lynching someone without them giving an RC is a good idea.  I know the number of votes to lynch increases with each RC but I feel that they won't be given a chance at all.  Especially during the holiday season you can't just pick a quiet person and lynch them.  They'll get called out sooner or later.  I do agree with lobster that finding out if sketchy is telling the truth will help to close down an avenue of potential fake rc's.  RC's will be tough to evaluate at this point anyways...

vote: sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Sandwich on December 23, 2008, 04:15:29 PM
I was going to suggest trying another preliminary question (like the fictional or non-fictional thing) but it would take days for everyone to show up and answer, then more days to finally achieve a lynch. So it doesn't make sense time wise but I have a couple of good ideas for tomorrow.. If people are back. :)

vote: sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: 1Pirate on December 23, 2008, 04:20:16 PM
Poor sketchy, nobody ever trusts him.

With good cause.

vote Sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Casper on December 23, 2008, 04:33:43 PM
I'm not too comfortable with this lynch, but with so many votes needed I'd rather take the shot than risk a no lynch day.

vote: Sketchy

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 23, 2008, 04:36:26 PM
And mine makes 8.  I'm doing this only in the hopes that it clears me as town.

vote: sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 23, 2008, 04:38:50 PM
by saying that, it just makes you look more like scum.

and by voting at a time when its fairly obvious the lynch is gonna happen, it just makes you look like scum.

so, basically, theres nothing you can do that wont make you look like scum now.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 23, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
by saying that, it just makes you look more like scum.

and by voting at a time when its fairly obvious the lynch is gonna happen, it just makes you look like scum.

so, basically, theres nothing you can do that wont make you look like scum now.

this is what I meant about not being able to judge people by what they say.  much like most of the woo out there, if you start out thinking everyone is scum, you just interpret everything they say as scummy, or if they don't say anything you interpret that as scummy.  It's a no win situation.  I'm starting to think this game is a popularity contest.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Mr Ben on December 23, 2008, 04:52:31 PM
what, you didnt think it was a popularity contest before?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 23, 2008, 04:53:45 PM
what, you didnt think it was a popularity contest before?

shit.  That's why I keep getting lynched :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: kikyo on December 23, 2008, 05:35:35 PM
I think this is going to have to be the way to go. Unfortunately for Sketchy, he's proven himself so good at getting away with crazy role claims in the past as scum that unless he gets a fairly straightforward role, it really is good policy to lynch him before he promises to start hacking into the system and give you clues about the game. ;)

I agree that if Sketchy turns out to be town, we at least have more information about the scope of the possible role claims. So I suppose that it's an okay lynch for today.

Vote: Sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: lobster5 on December 23, 2008, 05:45:23 PM
I think I may have been the first vote on him but just in case:

unvote


Vote: Sketchy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Neutral Milk on December 23, 2008, 05:52:23 PM
It's one more  vote to lynch, and I'm not really happy with this lynch.

I can't imagine the tide turning at this point, but I won't throw on my vote just yet.

I'll be around most of this evening, so if I don't see anything going on in another direction I'll make that scurvy dog walk the plank!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Morvis13 on December 23, 2008, 08:17:35 PM
I count 10 votes for lynch Sketchy already.
I'm interested to see how this turns out.
Remember the first person to vote for a townie lynch is the next on the plank.

1. wastrel
2. lobster
3. kikyo
4. 1Pirate
5. Casper
6. Sandwich
7. Shin
8. Mr Ben
9. Karyn
10. fffanatic
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: lobster5 on December 23, 2008, 09:05:06 PM

Remember the first person to vote for a townie lynch is the next on the plank.


This game is not nearly as mechanistic and simple as you keep insisting it is.

The first person to vote for a townie in early game is very unlikely to be scum because of the reasoning you just put forward. The last person to vote is in a similar position. Scum try and hide in the pack, they don't typically make themselves so easily known.

Rather than judge people's actions, judge the reasons (or lack thereof) that they give for those actions. The lynch on Sketchy seemed to get off the ground base on the reasons I posited. If he turns out to be town you might want to look at me, but alternatively you might want to look at my reasons and decide whether they were logical or not. It's a nuanced game, it's not simply a question of "you voted for this innocent person so you must be scum" or variants thereof.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Tai Fung on December 23, 2008, 09:12:33 PM
I agree with Lobster -- your pronouncements aren't really as black/white as you make them out to be.

Anyway, it's been hours since the penultimate vote, and with still no sign of Sketchy speaking up for himself (kinda like when we had Zookster dead-to-rights in the recent Porn Mafia), that's good enough for me.

Vote:  Sketchy

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Zookster on December 24, 2008, 04:07:39 AM
I think the lynch is a done deal, but I'll add a vote in case any are voteless out there.

unvote

vote sketchy


I am going to ask BM if he would like to sub for me while I am away, if that is ok with everyone.  This is the mod suggestion.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Zookster on December 24, 2008, 06:39:37 AM
Ok, BM says he will sub for me if it is ok with all the other players.

If the majority would prefer me to ask for a fresh replacement, I will.  If people would prefer me to just go inactive (for probably 10 or 11 solid days at worst (I am fully netless from 29 dec to 9 jan), I'll do that.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on December 24, 2008, 09:49:17 AM
Ok, BM says he will sub for me if it is ok with all the other players.

*shrugs*

I've got no problem with it. But aren't these decisions up to the mod?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Karyn on December 24, 2008, 10:57:32 AM
I'm fine with BM subing.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 2, 10 to lynch, +1!]
Post by: Anachronism on December 24, 2008, 11:01:25 AM
Poor Sketchy. No one ever believes him.

LYNCHED - Sketchy - Bram Cohen, Vanilla townie

Due to it being Christmas and all, night 2 will be a week or so, allowing everyone to party away frivolously. Also, since Zookster will be away for much more than a week, I am looking for a temporary/permanent replacement for him. BM has said that he was okay with being that replacement only if no one else came forward.

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays/Seasons Greetings!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 3] [Looking for a replacement!]
Post by: sketchy on December 30, 2008, 12:01:11 PM
vote for sketchy - he must eb lying.  :(  you guys suck.  I'm taking my cheese and going home.

NO CHEESE FOR YOU!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 3] [Looking for a replacement!]
Post by: Karyn on December 30, 2008, 12:08:55 PM
I believed you!  I'll take some cheese now, please.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 2 actually, not 3] [Looking for a replacement!]
Post by: Anachronism on January 01, 2009, 09:02:05 AM
Deadline in 48 hours!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 2 actually, not 3] [Looking for a replacement!]
Post by: Anachronism on January 02, 2009, 09:03:44 AM
Alexbutterfield is replacing Zookster. <3
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 2 actually, not 3] [Replacement found!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 02, 2009, 03:27:21 PM
So, um, anyone have anything to report?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 2 actually, not 3] [Replacement found!]
Post by: Karyn on January 02, 2009, 03:48:58 PM
So, um, anyone have anything to report?

SSSHHHHHHHh!   It's not day yet.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 2 actually, not 3] [Replacement found!]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 02, 2009, 03:59:43 PM
So, um, anyone have anything to report?

SSSHHHHHHHh!   It's not day yet.

my fault. Carry on with your activities and what not.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 2 actually, not 3] [Replacement found!]
Post by: Anachronism on January 03, 2009, 11:59:44 AM
Day 3 dawns with the death of Captain Jack Sparrow.

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/pirateDM2505_468x456.jpg)

DEAD - Kikyo - Captain Jack Sparrow - Cop

Day ends in 70 hours. Go!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on January 03, 2009, 12:19:53 PM
So we lost two cops in the first two nights?  That doesn't sound good!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 03, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
They are either getting real lucky, or they have some serious powers.  I think they are getting lucky and just targeting players that haven't said much.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 03, 2009, 12:33:53 PM
We've got 17 people left. Luckily there seems to be only one killing party, which means we've got more time to fuck up and have some bad lynches (obviously as long as they aren't powerful roles).

Since we're at an odd number we already need more than half for a lynch, so while we definitely need to get some RCs we probably can't afford to get more than two or three.

I'll wait and see if anyone has any good info to start a bandwagon with.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 03, 2009, 04:50:23 PM
Did Kikyo report any results?  I don't think she did...  She might not have gotten any guilty results so she didn't come forward.  Unfortunately with her death we have lost all of her investigations :P  I agree with Neutral Milk, I think we can maybe afford to get at least 2 RCs today, hopefully someone will have some sort of information for a bandwagon.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 03, 2009, 05:47:02 PM
Kikyo didn't really reveal anything.  She voted for Neutral Milk on Day 2 but was pretty insistent that it was just random, so that doesn't really say anything one way or the other.

What about another round of pseudo-RCs?

Players who claimed to be fictional pirates could state whether their character originated from a movie, book, TV series, etc.  Since some roles might have multiple sources(I think they made a movie of Treasure Island) we'd be asking for the original(so Long John Silver would be a book for example)

Players who claimed to be real pirates could say the years in which they were active(players who don't know should be able to Google it without a problem).

It would give the mafia even less wiggle room for their fake RCs.  Thoughts?(so as not to look like I'm piking on my own suggestion, I'll start once there's a consensus that no serious drawbacks exist).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on January 03, 2009, 06:18:04 PM
I agree as regards pseudo RCs
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 03, 2009, 06:24:45 PM
And maybe we can ask the century for us real pirates.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 03, 2009, 06:42:18 PM
And maybe we can ask the century for us real pirates.

I was thinking even more specific than that:
Players who claimed to be real pirates could say the years in which they were active(players who don't know should be able to Google it without a problem).

Any reason a more general time period would be better?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 03, 2009, 06:55:13 PM
And maybe we can ask the century for us real pirates.

I was thinking even more specific than that:
Players who claimed to be real pirates could say the years in which they were active(players who don't know should be able to Google it without a problem).

Any reason a more general time period would be better?

sorry, I didn't see that part of your comment, lol. Let's go with yours.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 03, 2009, 07:02:40 PM
I guess I'll go first.

1682 - 1720.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 03, 2009, 07:18:53 PM
Hey, I said I was going to go first! ;)

I'm originally from a play.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 03, 2009, 09:23:32 PM
Ahoy there, yon' gentlemen o' fortun'.

I don't be too good a'r'all this buccaneer speak, but I've gone and replaced Zookster, and finally read all o' yer posts.

ya bunch o' whinin' wee lasses - 24 pages a'ready.

*coughs.

Actually, you see, I'm not a real pirate after all, I'm a fictional one played by a rather well educated young man, so every now and then I cannot but help myself from slipping out of character. It is ever so dreary to keep up this common burr for any length of time.

I'm also originally from a play - of sorts.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on January 03, 2009, 10:19:28 PM
I'm from a book.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 03, 2009, 10:27:54 PM
We already be seeing me nickers hangin' from the yard arm.
They were really there 1530 – 1603
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 04, 2009, 08:54:14 AM
I'm from a video game.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on January 04, 2009, 09:21:08 AM
I'm from a book and a movie
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 04, 2009, 02:00:55 PM
I'm from a video game.

For me ther is only one video pirate, and he is NO good! The evil LeChuck!  :o

I lived 1540 - 1595
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 04, 2009, 04:26:42 PM
I'm from a book and a movie
Do you think it would be better to give all the different types of media that we appeared in?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 04, 2009, 05:30:10 PM
Im not sure. It may be by doing so we find theres some kind of restriction as to where the characters were taken from, which would be useful for looking at fake RCs, but I dont think this is very likely.

Partly because Im from a cartoon.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 04, 2009, 05:33:02 PM
Sorry, change that. Im actually more associated with being a toy than in a cartoon. Remembered it wrong.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on January 05, 2009, 10:44:14 AM
Sorry, change that. Im actually more associated with being a toy than in a cartoon. Remembered it wrong.

A NINJA TOY, perhaps??!?

(sorry, just trying to start a witch hunt)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 05, 2009, 11:16:33 AM
I can't think of any famous pirate that is rooted in cartoon or toys.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 05, 2009, 12:21:30 PM
Sorry, change that. Im actually more associated with being a toy than in a cartoon. Remembered it wrong.

A NINJA TOY, perhaps??!?

(sorry, just trying to start a witch hunt)

I actually am a bit suspicious of Mr. Ben. It may be meta-gaming but his posts look a lot like the one's he made back in the James Bond mafia.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 05, 2009, 12:23:45 PM
And very possibly the ones i made in dexter, and in SG1, and in every other game I played. You probably just noticed my posts more in Bond because we were in the same mafia.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 05, 2009, 04:01:19 PM
And very possibly the ones i made in dexter, and in SG1, and in every other game I played. You probably just noticed my posts more in Bond because we were in the same mafia.
You were scum in SG-1  :P

This is pure meta-gaming, but Mr Ben almost always seems to end up mafia.  Apart from mafia, he's been town twice, one of which he was killed on Night 1.  He's been a survivor twice, he was eventually recruited into the mafia in one of those games, and he just got killed in the other(his role has yet to be determined in the other active mafias).  Point being, it's a little difficult to gauge what his postings are like when he's town.

My main concern however, is that this is derailing our pseudo-RC and I don't want to give scum more time to think of fake RCs(people who take longer to pRC are going to be more suspicious, but not if we give them a legitimate excuse like a sudden bandwagon on Mr Ben to fall back on).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 05, 2009, 04:03:14 PM
people who take longer to pRC are going to be more suspicious

I see what you did there.
Pot calling the kettle black.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 05, 2009, 04:07:16 PM

I see what you did there.
Pot calling the kettle black.
I was the second pRC, sweetcheeks.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 05, 2009, 04:15:51 PM
I think I've basically pRCed already.  In fact, I've RCed in a rather roundabout way, in an attempt to game the system.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on January 05, 2009, 04:18:06 PM
I'm from a book.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on January 05, 2009, 04:18:42 PM
I'm from a book.

I should be more specific.

A comic book
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 05, 2009, 04:23:21 PM

I see what you did there.
Pot calling the kettle black.
I was the second pRC, sweetcheeks.

Touch this wench and I'll run you thru from the genitalia up so everything spills out so you can see before you die.

End this facade, drop the pseudo and give us yer real name ya scum.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 05, 2009, 07:22:51 PM
I can't remember any pirate toys...  I could be being dense, but none really jump out at me.  I really think we should try and get some RCs.  Has everyone checked in?  I'm sorry Mr Ben, I'm not metagaming, I'm just really curious what your RC is :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 05, 2009, 08:06:09 PM
We're still missing pRCs from Lee and Myra.  Karyn hasn't given the years she was active.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 05, 2009, 08:09:44 PM
I've already said my name.  Wiki it.  If you can't guess what years I was active by the mountain of clues I've dropped, then you need to reread all my posts.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 05, 2009, 08:27:00 PM
I've already said my name.  Wiki it.  If you can't guess what years I was active by the mountain of clues I've dropped, then you need to reread all my posts.
Sorry, Anachronism didn't list it on the front page.  I'll find it.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on January 05, 2009, 09:17:13 PM
I can't remember any pirate toys...

(http://www.fatlittlefinger.com/Piratemedia/Captain-Roger.jpg)

Then again...

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d83/EddySoto/Lego_ninja.jpg)

!!!

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on January 05, 2009, 10:53:55 PM
omg I think I'm starting to like Beleth.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on January 05, 2009, 10:59:18 PM
Not that I ever didn't like Beleth! :-*
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 05, 2009, 11:05:59 PM
Alright, enough of this.. we need to get some RCs. The two people left should still give us their pRC.

I'm most confused by this toy thing..

vote: Mr Ben
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 05, 2009, 11:45:13 PM
Good enough for me, we need to stop yammering and keep getting RCs.

Vote:  Mr. Ben
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on January 05, 2009, 11:59:26 PM
Mod note: I'm pretty sure I listed all the RCs in the thread on the front page. Let me know if you find one that isn't on the list.

That said, Myra has dropped off the face of the earth. :( I want my Shugo Chara dammit.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 06, 2009, 07:06:06 AM
Fair enough. I am Cannonball, the Transformer pirate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_(Transformers) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_(Transformers))

As far as I can tell from that, I was only a toy, but I may have appeared in something else. Im not that familiar with Transformers
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 06, 2009, 07:07:52 AM
Oh, wait, me and my troops appeared in one story. Thats all.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 06, 2009, 07:30:44 AM
So we need 10votes to lynch now. and theres probably 4 or 5 mafia/bad guys out out 17 players.

that means we can still get a mafia lynch, even with one more rc today. we could even squeeze in two.

if we dont get the rcs soon we'll never be able to get them.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch +1]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on January 06, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Sorry guys, I completely forgot about this game, and I wasn't here during the holidays.

I was active 1714-1720

My role that is.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch +1]
Post by: Anachronism on January 07, 2009, 10:11:04 AM
Town seems to be under the influence of a slight soporific, and fails to take decisive action. Ah well.

Night 3! Actions due in 24 hours.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 3]
Post by: Anachronism on January 10, 2009, 10:11:22 PM
Mod note: Due to unforeseen circumstances, night is extended to Monday.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 3]
Post by: Anachronism on January 11, 2009, 11:25:04 PM
Everyone wakes up to a bright and cheery morning. Oh, except for one.

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2345/wallluffy5500jw7.jpg)

DEAD - Beleth - Monkey D. Luffy - Vanilla Townie
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 12, 2009, 12:47:53 PM
I'm lost! Have no idea what we should do next. Plans any one? Info? Anything?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 12, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
I'm lost! Have no idea what we should do next. Plans any one? Info? Anything?

I'm going to guess no.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: lobster5 on January 12, 2009, 02:05:52 PM
I vote we go back to day 1 and hope our cops don't get killed this time.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 12, 2009, 03:30:09 PM
Vote:  Apharinde

Lots of RCs to still dig through.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 12, 2009, 04:25:59 PM
Barring Lobster's suggestion, we could try another round of pRCs.  In this case, I'm thinking we should get specific.  Here's my suggestion:

For Fictional pirates:  State the name of the body of work that you're in.  For example, Long John Silver would say I'm from Treasure Island.  If giving the title would be the same as RCing(if, say, the book has been named Treasure Island and Long John Silver), give one unique(or at least well-known) attribute about your character (LJS could say that he was known for having a parrot on his shoulder for example)

For Real pirates: Give a unique factoid about your character(any pages about them should have something along the lines of "best known for...").  So for example Bartholomew Roberts could say "I was considered the most successful pirate of the Golden Age of Piracy.

We get RCs from anyone who doubles up. 

And seriously, we should get at least four RCs today(I realize that'll put us past the mafia threshold, but at this point anyone who blocks a lynch by refusing to vote or by an unwarranted RC might as well admit to being a ninja and we've got enough townies to prevent the mafia from no-lynching tomorrow).

Again I'll go first if no one finds any holes in the plan(or I'll at least try to go first  :P.


Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 12, 2009, 04:40:01 PM
My body was tarred, hanged in a cage, and gibbeted on display shortly after my hanging.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 12, 2009, 04:45:52 PM
My body was tarred, hanged in a cage, and gibbeted on display shortly after my hanging.
You did that on purpose!  >:(

I'm from Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 12, 2009, 04:47:55 PM
My body was tarred, hanged in a cage, and gibbeted on display shortly after my hanging.
You did that on purpose!  >:(

 ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 12, 2009, 05:03:11 PM
If the consensus becomes to go through with this continued pRC I'll be more than willing to go along, but I just don't see the point right now.

There are clearly people who are lying, and they've already got a fake RC lined up in order to pass through the previous round of pRCs, none of the people thus far have revealed conflicting information, so we won't catch someone RCing as pirate whose already in the game.

I can see the point in asking specific people to pRC so we work around the RC restrictions, but why bother with the mass RC?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 12, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
There are clearly people who are lying, and they've already got a fake RC lined up in order to pass through the previous round of pRCs

Have you got something or am I just reading to much into it?

I can see the point in asking specific people to pRC so we work around the RC restrictions, but why bother with the mass RC?

If we haven't anyone's night results to go off, what else can we do?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 12, 2009, 08:52:26 PM
I'd still like to hear the pRCs. Ya don't at least check in we can measure you for a hanging rope.

I still says I be a pub.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 13, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
I'm a Sir who has been sailing around the globe.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 14, 2009, 11:59:47 AM
C'mon people post!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 14, 2009, 12:43:06 PM
Looks like we'll have to do this the hard way
vote: Myra555

I just want a pRC for now.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 14, 2009, 01:02:21 PM
To get the game moving a bit:

I am a Decepticon (yes, you read that right), appear as a Hearse, and appear in the story The Dark Heart of Sandokan by Benson Yee.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 14, 2009, 01:22:45 PM
To get the game moving a bit:

I am a Decepticon (yes, you read that right), appear as a Hearse, and appear in the story The Dark Heart of Sandokan by Benson Yee.

pRCs from people who've already RC'd aren't really necessary but thanks anyway :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 14, 2009, 01:27:52 PM
I'll join in on the pRC bandwagon, and since this isn't moving I'll give my pRC

vote: Myra666

I'm mostly found on an island. An island inhabited by and named after simian primates.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 14, 2009, 01:28:56 PM
I'm curious if anyone has figured out who I am.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 14, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
To get the game moving a bit:

I am a Decepticon (yes, you read that right), appear as a Hearse, and appear in the story The Dark Heart of Sandokan by Benson Yee.

pRCs from people who've already RC'd aren't really necessary but thanks anyway :)

...I have absolutely no memory of RCing.

huh.

Vote: myra666
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 14, 2009, 01:57:28 PM
Ok i'm all for lynching someone.

Vote: myra666
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 14, 2009, 02:01:15 PM
Ok i'm all for lynching someone.

Vote: myra666

has to be bolded
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 14, 2009, 02:03:02 PM
right sorry.

Vote: myra666
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 14, 2009, 02:05:15 PM
...I have absolutely no memory of RCing.

huh.

Vote: myra666

Fair enough. I am Cannonball, the Transformer pirate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_(Transformers) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_(Transformers))

As far as I can tell from that, I was only a toy, but I may have appeared in something else. Im not that familiar with Transformers
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 14, 2009, 02:07:12 PM
are you picking on him cuz he had too much rum and can't remember?
Or are you making a point that this could be bogus?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 14, 2009, 02:08:45 PM
Actually, seen as I forgot, this more proves that my RC is real, seen as my RC and my pseudo RC match!! :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 14, 2009, 02:10:51 PM
The eye colour on your avatar match. Is that guy real?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 14, 2009, 02:17:36 PM
Just refreshing his memory(based on his pRC it doesn't seem like he changed it, a little odd that he'd forget though).

Actually, seen as I forgot, this more proves that my RC is real, seen as my RC and my pseudo RC match!! :)

Or you just knew what your fake RC was going to be :P

At any rate, it's too early in the day to make any lynch decisions.  We need the rest of the pRCs and then a few RCs.  After that we can decide on a lynch.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 14, 2009, 09:16:10 PM
Do you want me to say I'm from Monkey Island?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 15, 2009, 01:23:55 AM
If that's where you're from.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 15, 2009, 01:25:27 AM
I'm from monkey island
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 15, 2009, 01:35:41 AM
unvote

Haven't got all day

vote: LeeTheAgent

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 15, 2009, 02:28:52 AM
I'll be checking tonight, sorry for the lack of presence.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 15, 2009, 07:58:23 AM
Since 1Pirate seems to be the Captain with a fear of clocks.
Still don't know why we trust him for no apparent reason.
I'll follow along this dance to see where it leads.

unvote

vote: LeeTheAgent
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on January 15, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
I'm from Atlas Shrugged.

vote: Lee
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 15, 2009, 03:51:24 PM
Atlas Shrugged had a pirate?  I suppose that's what I get for getting bored 100 pages into the book.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 15, 2009, 07:42:05 PM
misinterpret this if you can.

I am from an Australian kid's band called The Wiggles.

It might be a good idea if our pRC is very obvious. And if the next poster clarifies the pRC.

eg. Myra555 is either Otis or Meathook (wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_(series)#Characters))

also

vote Lee

(I should be on again Saturday night)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 15, 2009, 07:48:40 PM
\o/ The Wiggles \o/

(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/08/16/wiggle_narrowweb__300x307,0.jpg)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 15, 2009, 09:49:19 PM
AMG CAPTAIN FEATHERSWORD FTW!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on January 16, 2009, 01:02:25 AM
Mod Note: ...This is a really stupid way of 'not' RCing.

As soon as someone confirms somebody else's guess of their RC, I'll count it as such.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 16, 2009, 02:32:07 AM
Yeah, I thought confirmation by proxy was pushing our luck a little too far.


Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 16, 2009, 07:20:16 AM
Looks like you can't stop us RCing.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 16, 2009, 08:20:21 AM
It must be getting close to evening so we need to decide who we are lynching.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 16, 2009, 09:20:28 AM
I agree. Anyone's rc seem iffy to you guys?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 16, 2009, 09:38:40 AM
Lee has yet to reply and has 3 votes against him.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 16, 2009, 10:04:50 AM
Then let's pile it on Lee.

unvote

vote: LeeTheAgent
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 16, 2009, 10:14:04 AM
in case i havent already. my memory isnt was it was these days after all.

vote: leetheagent
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 16, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
my original vote count was inaccurate.
Lee is up to 6 now.
3 more and we warm up the plank.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 16, 2009, 12:09:26 PM
Lee's been so busy lately, he'll probably welcome it.

vote: Lee
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 16, 2009, 12:23:43 PM
Hi guys!

I'm sorry that I haven't been more active in this game. And I'm about to become even more inactive. Tomorrow I'm going to Austria for a ski-vacation. I do believe that they have Internet in Austria, but I'm not sure that I'll be able to get on line that much during the following week.

I will be back next Saturday. If you grown tired of me not posting and you find someone wanting to  replace me, that is fine. Otherwise, see you guys in a week!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 16, 2009, 12:26:49 PM
I'm gonna add my vote on Lee. We have a few votes left, and his silence is getting ridiculous.

vote:Lee
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 16, 2009, 12:39:58 PM
i think that makes one vote to go.

unvote

lets at least give him a few more hours to pipe up
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 16, 2009, 01:22:29 PM
One observation regarding the pRCs we currently have: Two people from Monkey Island probably bears looking at(but let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet). 
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 16, 2009, 01:55:06 PM
I definitely think two people claiming they are from Monkey Island is definitely worth looking at.  From the wikipedia it appears as if there is more than one pirate there, but it might be a good start when we have absolutely nothing to go on...  :P  It should be 7 on Lee, I'll check back later to see if he checks in.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 18, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
I don't know if a deadline has been set, but I think it might be worth mentioning that it's a three day weekend in the States so some people may be out until Monday evening(US).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on January 19, 2009, 12:26:03 AM
Stupid long holidays!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 19, 2009, 06:53:26 AM
Still, this is stupid. The games taking way too long.

Vote: LeeTheAgent
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on January 19, 2009, 03:46:02 PM
vote: Leetheagent

WHAM-O In yah face ninja scumz!!!!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on January 19, 2009, 03:52:11 PM
Crap, I completely forgot about this game, sorry. I'm Calico Jack. :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 19, 2009, 03:54:46 PM
Crap, I completely forgot about this game, sorry. I'm Calico Jack. :(

BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: LeeTheAgent on January 19, 2009, 03:55:38 PM
No, it's true, I did forget about this game :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 19, 2009, 04:07:44 PM
Come on, guys. Just a couple more votes.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on January 19, 2009, 04:08:10 PM
I think we already got 9 votes
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 19, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
I think we already got 9 votes

but isn't it +1 for each rc?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 19, 2009, 04:12:04 PM
Votes for Lynching Lee so far:

1Pirate
Morvis13
Sandwich
alexbutterfield
fffanatic06
Karyn
Neutral Milk
Mr Ben
Casper
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 19, 2009, 04:30:47 PM
that's 9 and we'll need one more because of Lee's claim.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 19, 2009, 05:03:20 PM
I think Lee's claim is bullshit, judging from the pRCs, someone else is claiming Calico Jack and while it's normally SOP to lynch the first claimer, we've got a different story here:

I was active 1714-1720
This is crap, there's no record of Calico Jack's pirating before 1718.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 19, 2009, 06:00:10 PM
i was about to suggest that Lee might have used a different source to find the dates, but... that would mean he didnt use wiki. Which just can't be true. Ever.

Vote stays.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 19, 2009, 06:42:39 PM
vote: leetheagent
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on January 19, 2009, 10:43:14 PM
The town gathers around Lee. "Dattebayo!" "I mean, arrrr?" But it was too late.

LYNCHED - LeeTheAgent - Uzimaki Naruto, Mafia Goon

Night 4! Actions plz, kthxbai.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 4]
Post by: Anachronism on January 22, 2009, 10:01:23 AM
24 Hours for actions!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 4]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 22, 2009, 10:16:33 AM
yay
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 4]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 22, 2009, 10:17:46 AM
does this mean the ninja's failed to kill anyone?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 4]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 22, 2009, 10:19:50 AM
No, its still night. Theres just 24hrs of night left.

Now shh. Sleep time (cough hypocryt cough)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 4]
Post by: Anachronism on January 23, 2009, 11:22:32 AM
Stop posting at night. I bet that's why people keep dying. :(

Day 5 dawns with the death of a Dread Pirate.

(http://joeindie.com/blog/images/tj200703181935-1.jpg)

DEAD - lobster5 - Dread Pirate Roberts - Vanilla Townie
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 23, 2009, 11:36:54 AM
We lost our pet lobster!
ok so here is the list of people yet to RC

1Pirate
Neutral Milk
Zookster
Sandwich
fffanatic06
karyn
Wastrel
Apharinde

Lets put some pressure on someone.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 23, 2009, 11:56:38 AM
I told you I've rc'd in a non rc way.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on January 23, 2009, 11:58:33 AM
I've basically RCed in a non-RC way also.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 23, 2009, 01:57:26 PM
As have I--however, we do need to put a few official RCs out there so the mafia doesn't start blocking their own lynches with RCs later on.

Like I said yesterday, I think the two Monkey Island claims bear looking at.

Coin flip: vote Neutral Milk
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 23, 2009, 02:02:36 PM
vote: Neutral Milk


let's hear it.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 23, 2009, 02:34:51 PM
I would have chose Apharinde as I don't think we have any info on them.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 23, 2009, 03:30:30 PM
I would have chose Apharinde as I don't think we have any info on them.

 ???

Aphirande's pRCs:

Real or Fiction: Real

Active time: 1540-1595(this is actually DOB and DOD, but some other people gave that too).

Unique facts: Called "Sir" and sailed around the globe

It's pretty obvious who he's claiming.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 23, 2009, 03:32:42 PM
I would have chose Apharinde as I don't think we have any info on them.

 ???

Aphirande's pRCs:

Real or Fiction: Real

Active time: 1540-1595(this is actually DOB and DOD, but some other people gave that too).

Unique facts: Called "Sir" and sailed around the globe

It's pretty obvious who he's claiming.

Now, now -- Morvis is a building newbie, cut him a break.   :P   :P

Pressure:  NM
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 23, 2009, 03:46:07 PM
I'm a PUB! And, I'm not sharing my rum with you guys.
Also I'm too lazy to look up the info. :-)

I'll join the bandwagon:

vote: Neutral Milk
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 23, 2009, 05:37:43 PM
I told you I've rc'd in a non rc way.

I'm sorry Karyn, but I don't see it.  You haven't given any new information since this post (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg416563.html#msg416563).

Prior to that your posts were:
Quote from: Karyn(24)
They are either getting real lucky, or they have some serious powers.  I think they are getting lucky and just targeting players that haven't said much.
Quote from: Karyn(23)
SSSHHHHHHHh!   It's not day yet.
Quote from: Karyn
I believed you!  I'll take some cheese now, please.
Quote from: Karyn
I'm fine with BM subing.
Quote from: Karyn(22)
shit.  That's why I keep getting lynched :(
Quote from: Karyn(22)
this is what I meant about not being able to judge people by what they say.  much like most of the woo out there, if you start out thinking everyone is scum, you just interpret everything they say as scummy, or if they don't say anything you interpret that as scummy.  It's a no win situation.  I'm starting to think this game is a popularity contest.
Quote from: Karyn
And mine makes 8.  I'm doing this only in the hopes that it clears me as town.

vote: sketchy
Quote from: Karyn(21)
it doesn't.  If sketchy turns out to be scum, it only makes me look evil.  If I'm mafia, I wouldn't be defending him at this stage in the game, or I'd be trying to deflect the bandwagon to someone else.  If I'm town, I'm only defending him because then at least I look less scummy.  But that goes back to the WIFOM thing, doesn't it ;)

I can't ever tell who is scum and who isn't by the things they say.  I find it to be about the most useless method of discovery out there.  I'm tempted to go back to all the previous games and track the level of accuracy in people's assumptions based on chatter.  I bet it's pretty shitty.
Quote from: Karyn
well, I don't exactly have a better option for us, anyway.  I wish I did.
Quote from: Karyn
it's related to internet piracy.  Obviously, that doesn't mean that I support sketchy 100%, just that I don't think his rc is that sketchy.
Quote from: Karyn(20)
I am defending sketchy because I am not all that different from him.
Quote from: Karyn(19)
I disagree.  I'm inclined to believe Sketchy's rc for now.

Quote from: Karyn(15)
I have absolutely no information for us.
Quote from: Karyn(14)
I trust sketchy.  Oddly enough.
Quote from: Karyn(13)
I'm going to guess sketchy is shawn fanning.
Quote from: Karyn(13)
I can believe this.
(^this is the first post in which you gave any kind of indication about your role.) 

All I get from that is that you're some kind of software or internet pirate.  Unless there's some kind of hidden code(which is an unnecessarily obtuse method if there is one), you've just said "Oh I've already done it" whenever asked for a pRC.  I took your word for it previously(shame on me), but looking things over, you haven't given us anything specific(I can pretty much guess the claims of everyone else who has already given all their pRCs).  I still want official RCs out of Neutral and Myra, but in the meantime could you please give us some better pRCs?(or show me what I missed in your posts)

While I'm at it, Wastrel didn't pRC yesterday.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 23, 2009, 07:01:43 PM
Yeah, I might be dumb, but I wasn't getting Karyn's pRC...  I assumed she was a software or internet pirate based on what she said about sketchy, but I didn't get anything specific from her posts.

Let's hear is Monkey Island peeps!

pressure: neutral milk
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 23, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
pressure: neutral milk 

What happens if he claims my guy?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 23, 2009, 07:08:45 PM
pressure: neutral milk 

What happens if he claims my guy?
Then at least one of you is a ninja. ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 23, 2009, 07:10:02 PM
Well it's not me that's for sure.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 23, 2009, 08:56:45 PM
How do we know?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 23, 2009, 09:02:31 PM
Vote: Neutral Milk
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 23, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
I'm LeChuck, and I can't imagine myra lying and saying he is my character, so it's nice for him that I had to go first and he can just pick the other prominent pirate in Monkey Island.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 23, 2009, 10:56:16 PM
unvote

Myra can dispute that if he wants.

Still want clarification from Karyn about her role, and still need Wastrel's pRC.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 24, 2009, 04:31:34 AM
^^^^^^ all this would be a very neat way for 1Pirate to create good cover for scum buddy Myra.

'Random'  ::)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 24, 2009, 09:07:43 AM
I choose not to dispute.

I would like to reveal that I win with the town
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Apharinde on January 24, 2009, 03:19:56 PM
Back from Austria!!!


Well, Myra who wouldn't say that they win with town? I would like to know your RC!

And Morvis? Why attack me...?

And 1Pirate, thanks for pointing out the facts, just one thing... I'm a girl  ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 24, 2009, 03:42:13 PM
And 1Pirate, thanks for pointing out the facts, just one thing... I'm a girl  ;)

I'm assuming you mean in real life('cause there are no girl 'Sir's  ;))

Someone said you were a guy in another mafia... :-[
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 24, 2009, 03:52:57 PM
Forgot to mention:

Thing with Myra is, with Neutral Milk RC'd, if Myra is scum, he can claim pretty much anyone in Monkey Island other than LeChuck, so we're not really going to out scum with an RC, so making him RC will just force us to have to scrounge another vote in order to lynch.  However...

...I'm not terribly familiar with Monkey Island off hand, but I find it highly unlikely that we'd have two characters from the same source, so Myra could well be scum.

That being said, we still need yesterday's pRC from Wastrel and Karyn hasn't given us any further information on her character.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 24, 2009, 07:06:31 PM
That being said, we still need yesterday's pRC from Wastrel and Karyn hasn't given us any further information on her character.

agreed. Karyn is being a bit suspicious by not pRCing and by saying she has when she hasn't.

I'd be tempted to suspect a Jedi mind trick - if this was a different mafia, and if Jedi's were scum. "you already have the pRC you are looking for"

also - I looked through monkey island wiki page, and there were two pirates. still - i doubt there are two from the same source.

Lynching one of them seems like a reasonable plan at some point today.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Karyn on January 24, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
You people are dense.

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.180.html

read my back and forth about supporting sketchy, if you still don't get it, I'm not going to help you any more.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 24, 2009, 08:31:10 PM
Back from Austria!!!


Well, Myra who wouldn't say that they win with town? I would like to know your RC!

And Morvis? Why attack me...?

And 1Pirate, thanks for pointing out the facts, just one thing... I'm a girl  ;)

You went all silent like a ninja so It rang some alarms. Maybe the trip to australia wasforgotten in my rum soaked mind.

Either way we need to get some people to clarify.
My number one suspect is still 1Pirate.

Unvote
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 24, 2009, 08:57:57 PM
You people are dense.

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.180.html

read my back and forth about supporting sketchy, if you still don't get it, I'm not going to help you any more.

All that tells us is that you're some kind of computer pirate, it does nothing to tell us who you are.  Shin has already stated that she doesn't know either so I invite anyone who has figured it out to pRC for Karyn.

Otherwise, if you don't have any idea who Karyn is, bold the word "dense" in your next post.

Dense

vote wastrel(still need that pRC, matey...)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 24, 2009, 10:22:58 PM
OK 1Pirate you need to stop trying to get us to lynch innocent townfolk.
make you look suspicious.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 24, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
OK 1Pirate you need to stop trying to get us to lynch innocent townfolk.
make you look suspicious.
::)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Karyn on January 24, 2009, 10:34:37 PM
You people are dense.

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.180.html

read my back and forth about supporting sketchy, if you still don't get it, I'm not going to help you any more.

All that tells us is that you're some kind of computer pirate, it does nothing to tell us who you are.  Shin has already stated that she doesn't know either so I invite anyone who has figured it out to pRC for Karyn.

Otherwise, if you don't have any idea who Karyn is, bold the word "dense" in your next post.

Dense

vote wastrel(still need that pRC, matey...)

Holy crap.  I give you the page WITH MY NAME ON IT, and you can't figure it out.  wow.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 24, 2009, 11:01:32 PM
Is this going anywhere?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 25, 2009, 03:52:54 AM
Holy crap.  I give you the page WITH MY NAME ON IT, and you can't figure it out.  wow.

Why didn't you just say you were one of the founders of Napster when we asked for pRCs yesterday?  Why so cryptic? :(

Is this going anywhere?

We're(okay I'm--but anyone who's been taking notes on the pRCs could get the same) pretty close to being able to tell who's claiming which pirate(I'm just missing wastrel now).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Apharinde on January 25, 2009, 05:28:18 AM
And 1Pirate, thanks for pointing out the facts, just one thing... I'm a girl  ;)

I'm assuming you mean in real life('cause there are no girl 'Sir's  ;))

Someone said you were a guy in another mafia... :-[

Well that is of course true, I'm a bloke in the game.  :)

I'm quite familiar with Monkey Island and there is a bunch of pirates in that game, probably 80 % of the characters are pirates. But that two characters in this game would come from MI is a little fishy...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 1, 11 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 25, 2009, 06:03:51 AM
I'm going to guess sketchy is xx.

Dense?

Calling us dense because you RCd by guessing someone elses name really is quite stupid yourself Karyn.

I guess NM is Captain PegLeg.

Oh wait, he RCd and he isnt, which must mean that my cryptic post with speculation about NM is actually an RC for myself.

Of course. How stupid of me not to get it before...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Karyn on January 25, 2009, 10:47:48 AM

After rereading the thread, I realized that my massive defense of sketchy, where I discuss who I am is 11 pages away from where I gave my name.  I thought they were much closer.  I can't expect anyone to put those 2 together., especially with how long these games are lasting lately.  I apologize for calling everyone dense.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: mickal777 on January 25, 2009, 10:56:28 AM
Earth is the densest planet.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 26, 2009, 04:23:58 AM
Hmm, I'm wondering, if I post a list of the roles I think are being claimed, but DO NOT say which player is claiming which role, will they count as RCs?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 26, 2009, 08:40:51 AM
Hmm, I'm wondering, if I post a list of the roles I think are being claimed, but DO NOT say which player is claiming which role, will they count as RCs?

let's not risk that. I'd rather figure work out who's the bet lynch candidate and I think we can manage without a full rc list.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on January 26, 2009, 10:45:51 AM
As soon as someone confirms somebody else's guess of their RC, I'll count it as such.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: mickal777 on January 26, 2009, 10:46:24 AM
Are you here beleth?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Beleth on January 26, 2009, 11:03:11 AM
Dead men post no replies!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: mickal777 on January 26, 2009, 11:11:58 AM
Oh yeah I forgot
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 26, 2009, 11:15:19 AM
Judging from how things are going, I doubt night is going to yield anything.

So let's look at the people who didn't vote for Lee.

myra555
Zookster
Wastrel
Apharinde
Tai Fung

Shin Hatsubai was the lynching vote
1Pirate started the wagon

Anyone there seem to suspicious to you guys?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 26, 2009, 11:42:45 AM
Isn't Zookster a replacement?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 26, 2009, 11:46:10 AM
Isn't Zookster a replacement?

I haven't been paying as much attention as I should. He's number 7 on the player list.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 26, 2009, 11:57:58 AM
Personally I'm most suspicious of Myra. He's been posting enough to be up to date with what's going on so I don't get why he wouldn't vote to lynch Lee. Plus there's that whole Monkey Island thing.

vote: Myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 26, 2009, 12:21:03 PM
I forget, has anyone not pRCd yet? If so, lets start with them, but I agree Myra is seeming the sketchiest.

Vote: Myra555 for now.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 26, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
yeah - I replaced zookster. and I think I voted for lee.

so whats the plan? you want to actually lynch Myra? or is this RC related.

personally - i dont like there being two Monkey Island characters. We might as well lynch one and then see about the other. ( I'm also still a little suspicious of the way 1pirate instigated the order of MI rcs from NM then Myra)

vote Myra

and if Myra is scum - Im very suspicious of 1pirate.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: fffanatic06 on January 26, 2009, 12:28:43 PM
so whats the plan? you want to actually lynch Myra? or is this RC related.

Really I'm just trying to get the ball rolling.

With no cops (I'm assuming) we can't exactly rely on night actions to decide lynch targets so we have to go by behavior.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 26, 2009, 12:53:53 PM
I forget, has anyone not pRCd yet?

Wastrel has yet to give his third pRC(but I think that one of the Monkey Islanders is the lynch for today).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: wastrel on January 26, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
I forget, has anyone not pRCd yet?

Wastrel has yet to give his third pRC(but I think that one of the Monkey Islanders is the lynch for today).

What info are we waiting on from me for pRC?

I'm buried at work, and haven't been able to pay super close attention.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 26, 2009, 01:05:26 PM
The name of the work your character appears in(if that'd be the same as an RC then give a unique trait about your character).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 26, 2009, 01:09:56 PM
I'm more inclined to believe wastrel then 1pirate but I'm paranoid of all of you.

I'm from a book.

I should be more specific.

A comic book
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: wastrel on January 26, 2009, 02:19:03 PM
The name of the work your character appears in(if that'd be the same as an RC then give a unique trait about your character).

The Watchmen (1986-1987)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 26, 2009, 02:59:42 PM
unvote

Interesting, in the wiki article, the only pirate in there seems to be from a comic within the comic.

if Myra is scum - Im very suspicious of 1pirate.

Sorry, but that cuts both ways.  If Myra turns up scum, you could just as easily be one of his scum buddies laying ground work to get me lynched, especially since your accusation rather conveniently ignores the fact that I pushed the last two rounds of pRCs which yielded us our first ninja.

At any rate, I think that's all the pRCs in so unless someone has something else for us:

vote: Myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 26, 2009, 03:08:11 PM
I think we got lucky with that lynch.
But since I've been unsuccessful rallying my own bandwagon in the past I'll latch on here.

Vote: Myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Karyn on January 26, 2009, 06:14:22 PM
vote: myra666

sorry....
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 26, 2009, 06:18:40 PM
Given that myra is also claiming to be from Monkey Island I'm inherently suspicious, but I'm also weary because he RCed as a person from Monkey Island (if I remember correctly) after I did.

This  seems to be where the momentum is going, so I'll add on, and I can't help but be suspicious that we have 2 pirates from the same source.

vote: Myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 26, 2009, 06:38:10 PM
unvote

Interesting, in the wiki article, the only pirate in there seems to be from a comic within the comic.

if Myra is scum - Im very suspicious of 1pirate.

Sorry, but that cuts both ways.  If Myra turns up scum, you could just as easily be one of his scum buddies laying ground work to get me lynched, especially since your accusation rather conveniently ignores the fact that I pushed the last two rounds of pRCs which yielded us our first ninja.

At any rate, I think that's all the pRCs in so unless someone has something else for us:

vote: Myra555

Your alright. When Myra turns out innocent and we lynch NM then you'll be clear. ;)

they are probably both innocent. Myra is just a victim of the nothing better to do situation.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: mickal777 on January 26, 2009, 06:42:57 PM
Woah.


If I RCed after you, wouldn't that be a stupid thing to do as scum?

I oly did it because I was town.

Also I have a power. I have a very sharp cutlass that I can use to cute people up.

Makes me a vigilantee.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Karyn on January 26, 2009, 06:49:27 PM
hrm....

I'll go ahead and unvote
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 26, 2009, 06:51:11 PM
oh no - way to go and complicate things.

that could be quite easily tested. Kill 1pirate tonight and we'll all believe you. ;D

(but let him post his full list of pRCs first, he has been working very hard in this game)

unvote myra

what now?

vote NeutralMilk ??

I'm not seriously nominating 1Pirate. but it would be good to test if we get the chance.

have u used this power yet? (I'm off back to check)

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 26, 2009, 06:57:38 PM
only 1 kill each night then. So i'm guessing this is a vig ability you've never used?

how about we test it by no lynching today and you kill Neutral Milk tonight.

Although if you arent protected then you could well end up being killed yourself and we'd get no kills at all that we've chosen.

hmm... ???
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: mickal777 on January 26, 2009, 06:58:06 PM
Nope.

I've been wanting to but thus far I've held back. No idea who is scum really.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 26, 2009, 07:06:18 PM
Hmmm...  well this does complicate things.  The power is easily tested, hopefully there is no mafia RBer.  I am still kind of suspicious of two people claiming to be from Monkey Island.

Also I have a power. I have a very sharp cutlass that I can use to cute people up.

If we do decide to test this power, any ideas on who Myra should "cute" up? :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 26, 2009, 07:45:33 PM
Based on our last B2B game, the mafia is unlikely to have anything other than an investigation-immune Godfather.  We had a jailkeeper in that game which limited protection, so I'm not sure if we'll have anything

This being a B2B game, I think it's unlikely there'd be a vig.  Also, in a similar situation, I'd have attacked the other Monkey Island claim(there wouldn't be a Bus Driver, let alone a mafia one in a B2B game and two sources is highly unlikely).  On the other hand, vig is a pretty testable claim.  It is somewhat tempting to let NM and Myra duke it out tonight and either no-lynch today, or pick someone else.  Which brings me to...

...The pRCs.  If I understand correctly, guessing is okay, but confirming a guess is not so don't confirm which one you are if you see your name on here.  I would like to say that apart from Monkey Island, we have no double claimed sources, so it's not like I'm 'giving' scum RCs for them:

Calico Jack
Captain Feathersword
Francis Drake
Shawn Fanning
Ragnar Danneskjöld
Guy from the "Black Freighter"(sorry I can't find a name).
Some other Monkey Island pirate(Myra555)

I left my character's name off the pRC list because I'm not sure if it might constitute an RC, but, like I said, I'm from Peter Pan, so on the one hand, it shouldn't be hard to figure out who I am, on the other hand--wait, I only have one hand!


Already RC'd:

Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT
Mr Ben - CLAIMS - Cannonball
Neutral Milk - LeChuck
Morvis13 - CLAIMS - Grace O'Malley
Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts
Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 26, 2009, 07:54:08 PM
The "cute" power sounds like a desperate plea from a ninja trying to save thier neck.

How much time do we have to decide on the lynch?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: mickal777 on January 26, 2009, 08:04:25 PM
It's cut.

Also I shoudl RC. I'm Guybrush Threepwood

vote: NeutralMilk
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Sandwich on January 26, 2009, 08:26:10 PM
It's cut.

Also I shoudl RC. I'm Guybrush Threepwood

vote: NeutralMilk

Do we want to lynch him or save him to test you tonight?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: mickal777 on January 26, 2009, 08:29:36 PM
Well I want to know if he has a power at least
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 26, 2009, 09:35:18 PM
Well now that you unnecessarily gave us your RC (if you're lying you had your pick of any other character from Monkey Island who is a pirate) now we need an extra vote to lynch. :/

That really wasn't a pro town move, mickal.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 26, 2009, 10:52:26 PM
Well I want to know if he has a power at least

You could have just asked for a power without RCing... :P  Even if Neutral Milk is lying and myra is telling the truth, I still don't think it was a good move.  We now need 10 to lynch with 14 people left.

I think we really need to sort out this Monkey Island situation, because otherwise it is definitely be a problem throughout the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 26, 2009, 10:56:47 PM
We have 1/2 the votes needed to lynch Myra

fffanatic06
Mr Ben
1Pirate
Morvis13
Neutral Milk

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: wastrel on January 26, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
vote: Myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 27, 2009, 05:07:48 AM
I dont like the idea of lynching our vig. But at the same time, I dont think I believe the claim.

1pirate raises a good argument, that if myra truly was a town vig, she would probably have killed NM already.

unvote NM

vote Myra


Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: mickal777 on January 27, 2009, 06:44:07 AM
Only if I wasn't stupid
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 27, 2009, 06:50:07 AM
I dont get it. Nothing Myra has done this game has really been pro town, especially with this RC now. I thought it was me who was supposed to appear scummy no matter what I did?

And all we're doing right now is lynching a vig who hasn't done anything, and probably never will.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: mickal777 on January 27, 2009, 07:05:13 AM
I'll kill NM tonight if you guys don't kill me.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Apharinde on January 27, 2009, 10:15:50 AM
Guybrush Threepwood a vigilante!?! Doesn't make sence at all! Guybrush Threepwood is a nobody, and he is defenitely not bloodthirsty enough to be a vigilante!

If you told us that you were equipped with a banana picker I would have belived you, but a cutlass? Noooooo...

vote: myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: mickal777 on January 27, 2009, 10:20:02 AM
Fine.

I'm armed with a bannana picker.  ::)

I'm still a vigilante though. This is madness.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 27, 2009, 10:24:41 AM
No, this is madness:

(http://www.avandr3.net/images/madness.jpg)

Yours is just transparent lies.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: mickal777 on January 27, 2009, 10:37:00 AM
I'm amazed at how many people are forced to eat their words in mafia.

What will you say?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 27, 2009, 10:47:48 AM
Not a lot while Im eating. After that, depends on how tasty my words were. We'll see.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Karyn on January 27, 2009, 10:51:02 AM
okay, I'll be the lynching vote.  I have no idea what to think about this.

vote: myra
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: mickal777 on January 27, 2009, 11:17:30 AM
Not a lot while Im eating. After that, depends on how tasty my words were. We'll see.

Bite me.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Neutral Milk on January 27, 2009, 11:25:36 AM
okay, I'll be the lynching vote.  I have no idea what to think about this.

vote: myra

You're not the lynching vote. There are 2 extra votes needed since myra posted his RC for no reason.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: mickal777 on January 27, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Hopefully my RC saves the life of this townie.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 27, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
Votes for lynch Myra so far:

fffanatic06
Mr Ben
1Pirate
Morvis13
Neutral Milk
wastrel
alexbutterfield
Karyn
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 27, 2009, 11:41:09 AM
Fine, but I do hate when we get into these pissing matches.

Vote:  Myra555
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 27, 2009, 11:41:50 AM
So one more vote then.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Apharinde on January 27, 2009, 11:44:50 AM
Votes for lynch Myra so far:

fffanatic06
Mr Ben
1Pirate
Morvis13
Neutral Milk
wastrel
alexbutterfield
Karyn

Hey, I voted to!

Fine.

I'm armed with a bannana picker.  ::)


You poke giant monkey nose with a banana picker, you don't kill people.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 27, 2009, 11:51:58 AM
vote: myra555

my apologies.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +2]
Post by: Anachronism on January 27, 2009, 11:53:55 AM
"Oh dear." said Guybrush. Oh dear indeed.

(http://www.planete-aventure.net/wiki/images/4/42/Guybrush_Threepwood.jpg)

LYNCHED - myra555 - Guybrush Threepwood, Naive Vigilante

Night 5! Send in your actions, arrr.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 5]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 27, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
nomnomnom
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 5]
Post by: Anachronism on January 27, 2009, 11:29:21 PM
Silence! I kill you!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 5]
Post by: Anachronism on January 29, 2009, 08:55:53 AM
Day 6 dawns with the discovery of two bodies, one of which has multiple stab wounds instead of the usual garroted neck.

(http://www.bahamas4kids.com/images/john_rackham.jpg)

(http://www.studiodaily.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/batman_imax.jpg)

DEAD - fffanatic06 - John Rackham (Calico Jack) - Vanilla Townie
DEAD - Neutral Milk - Batman - Mafia Godfather
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: mickal777 on January 29, 2009, 09:09:57 AM
Because batman is a ninja
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 29, 2009, 09:14:06 AM
Dead men tell no tales and I don't believe in ghosts.
Silence you!

We still have a vigilant!

here who is yet to RC
1Pirate
Sandwich
karyn
Wastrel
Apharinde

now 1Pirate has been very specific on his claim as well as Karyn.
Sorry but I can't remember the others.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 29, 2009, 09:21:56 AM
Hurray! Two maffia down...

I don't get this ninja thing. Batman do kick arse sometimes, but a ninja?

The info I've given som far:

I'm a real person

I'm a Sir that sailed around the world

I was born 1540 and died 1595

I think that's all, might have forgotten something, don't have time to look it up, I'm at work.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 29, 2009, 10:02:54 AM
is your last name synonymous with a Dragon?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 29, 2009, 10:04:29 AM
Because batman is a ninja

lol. I wondered that. I suppose he was taught by pseudo ninjas, and he did have a strange penchant for black...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 29, 2009, 12:22:50 PM
Before I go to school, I just want to say that a naive vig is not B2B  :P.  Also, be careful with your votes, the mafia can(currently) pile on a lynch with only three townie votes.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 29, 2009, 12:54:05 PM
batmans enough of a ninja.

id like to know how a vig can be naive? do thy get an investigate or a kill?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on January 29, 2009, 12:56:03 PM
There's not much point in questioning Batman's ninjaness, he's bad that's all we need to know.

id like to know how a vig can be naive? do thy get an investigate or a kill?

I'm guessing he was told he was a vig, but couldn't actually kill anyone.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 29, 2009, 01:19:47 PM
I dont think people are questioning batman as an ingame thing, they just thought that anach shouldnt have chosen him. But I disagree, (particularly in the movie thats referenced in the pi hes definitely a ninja)

So we were right about the monkey island thing, we just got it the wrong way round.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 29, 2009, 01:22:37 PM
Yeah, I have to say that it seems they were very plain in the movie that Batman was learning "ninjitsu," which I took as a direct affirmation that he had learned "the ninja way."  In the comics, he's of course got his own fighting style, but it seems like a perfectly reasonable role to have given out.

Do we have any other overlap in RCs like the Monkey Island thing we can test out?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 29, 2009, 01:44:43 PM
Due to the batman distraction I'm going to jump on a person from my list I'd really like an RC from.

Vote: Sandwich
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 29, 2009, 02:02:31 PM
Also, be careful with your votes, the mafia can(currently) pile on a lynch with only three townie votes.


Fine.  Pressure:  Sandwich

Mmmm.  Sandwich(es).  I r teh hungry (it's 2pm and I haven't eaten . . . today(!!!!)).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 29, 2009, 05:04:25 PM
is your last name synonymous with a Dragon?

Maybe....  ::) What made you think that?  ;)

Also, be careful with your votes, the mafia can(currently) pile on a lynch with only three townie votes.

I don't follow, what makes you think that there are only three townie votes? Not accusing or anything, just asking... Maybe it's just me being tired and don't get it.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Sandwich on January 29, 2009, 07:10:08 PM
Like I said, I've basically already RCed. I'm the only pirate in Atlas Shrugged.. I think. I haven't read it.

I'm even on this list....

...The pRCs.  If I understand correctly, guessing is okay, but confirming a guess is not so don't confirm which one you are if you see your name on here.  I would like to say that apart from Monkey Island, we have no double claimed sources, so it's not like I'm 'giving' scum RCs for them:

Calico Jack
Captain Feathersword
Francis Drake
Shawn Fanning
Ragnar Danneskjöld
Guy from the "Black Freighter"(sorry I can't find a name).
Some other Monkey Island pirate(Myra555)

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 29, 2009, 07:56:11 PM
Also, be careful with your votes, the mafia can(currently) pile on a lynch with only three townie votes.

I don't follow, what makes you think that there are only three townie votes? Not accusing or anything, just asking... Maybe it's just me being tired and don't get it.

In Anach's last B2B game, there were 4 mafia amongst 16 players.  Since this game had 20 players I'm guessing she'd have added at least one more mafia member.  So with two ninjas down, we probably have three mafia left.  That means if three townies put a vote on another townie, the mafia can pile their votes on and get a lynch in before the townie can defend themself.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on January 29, 2009, 08:09:49 PM
Yeah I definitely think that there could be 5 mafia in a 20 person game.  With 11 people left alive, there could be 3 people left hiding as mafia.  I also think pretty much everyone had "RCed" (what Sandwich posted).  I'm not sure on any claims we should start focusing on for now.

A naive vig is someone that is told that they are a vig, but if they try and kill anyone it doesn't work.  I had one in the James Bond game I modded, so I think it would be the same for this game.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 5, 8 to lynch +1]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 29, 2009, 09:42:25 PM
unvote

Guy from the "Black Freighter"(sorry I can't find a name).

Could we get som clarification on this?

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on January 29, 2009, 10:17:12 PM
As near as I can tell, the only "pirate" in Watchmen(the comic Wastrel claimed he was from) is in a comic within the series called Tales of the Black Freighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen#Tales_of_the_Black_Freighter).(the wiki article didn't say his name and I'm not familiar with the comic otherwise).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 30, 2009, 07:56:34 AM
Sounds fish.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 30, 2009, 09:58:50 AM
I'll only point out (because I am WAY excited about the Watchmen movie), is that people who really like the book feel that the Pirate theme in that comic is actually pretty central.  I'm not one of them, and usually skipped over the (substantial) portions of that epic comic devoted to the pirates.

There's actually a thread about this somewhere on the Boards here about the Watchmen comic book (where I complained about the Pirate storyline, and someone was explaining why it's so central to the comic).  I'll see if I can find it.

Anyway, I raise this because we're getting down to the wire, and I don't want people who haven't RC'd to bandwagon on a hunch, before we've gotten everyone to spill it.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 30, 2009, 10:01:38 AM
Well, that was fast (yay better search functions on the Boards!).

Here's me complaining about all the Pirate stuff in Watchmen, and someone explaining why the Pirate stuff is so important.

But I repeat -- I really hope they just dump the whole she-bang from the new movie coming out.

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,13577.msg320735.html#msg320735 (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,13577.msg320735.html#msg320735)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 30, 2009, 10:07:39 AM
I've also been pretty skeptical about he whole "Cannonball" transformer thing.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 30, 2009, 11:06:55 AM
Did the robot ever give us a power?  I know this is B2B, but I can't recall.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on January 30, 2009, 11:23:03 AM
vote: Mr Ben

Haven't bought the "obscure pirate Transformer who only appeared in one lost obscure comic" stuff since it was said.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on January 30, 2009, 12:17:49 PM
Yeh, that one sounded kinda fishy to me...

oh wait...

I know its not exactly a typical power for a b2b, and its the kind of power scum who dont want be lynched claim, but im a 50% self save. Cos Im a badass transformer or something.

Also, if I was gonna fake RC, I could have chosen a much better RC than some obsure transformer of all things. This isn't exactly my first game.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Sandwich on January 30, 2009, 01:06:47 PM
Yeh, that one sounded kinda fishy to me...

oh wait...

I know its not exactly a typical power for a b2b, and its the kind of power scum who dont want be lynched claim, but im a 50% self save. Cos Im a badass transformer or something.

Also, if I was gonna fake RC, I could have chosen a much better RC than some obsure transformer of all things. This isn't exactly my first game.

Well, if I had to pick what claim I buy the least, this would probably be it.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 30, 2009, 07:19:22 PM
Gotta go with something, before the Mafia boards grow cobwebs . . .

Vote:  Mr. Ben


(Also, I feel like the "it's too crazy NOT to be real" arguments, along with the, "I'm too experienced to do something so sketchy" arguments are a little dicey for me). 
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on January 30, 2009, 09:37:34 PM
i dont know. dont really find ben suspicious.

sandwich however is pretty suspicious to me.
Yeh, that one sounded kinda fishy to me...

oh wait...

I know its not exactly a typical power for a b2b, and its the kind of power scum who dont want be lynched claim, but im a 50% self save. Cos Im a badass transformer or something.

Also, if I was gonna fake RC, I could have chosen a much better RC than some obsure transformer of all things. This isn't exactly my first game.

Well, if I had to pick what claim I buy the least, this would probably be it.

even this for some reason is ringing bells.

 8)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 31, 2009, 08:41:36 AM
Okej, now I fell stupid and very newbeish. What does this B2B means? I first noticed it yesterday...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on January 31, 2009, 10:00:26 AM
B2B = Back to Basics!    ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on January 31, 2009, 12:01:01 PM
That makes sense! But what is basic? To me basic is one doc, one cop and the rest are townies or mafia (at least how I play it back home).

So far we have two cops, and probably a vig...

Now at least, I understand why there is so many VTs in this game.  :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on January 31, 2009, 12:08:09 PM
damn.  I thought it meant business to business.  :P

Anyways, are we trying to vote to lynch mr. ben at this point?  i don't want to look like a mafia person trying to pile on votes at the end for someone who is innocent :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on January 31, 2009, 09:02:04 PM
What if our mafia persons already voted dispite the warning my 1Pirate?
Hmmm....
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on February 01, 2009, 05:10:34 AM
If any or all of the remaining mafia have voted then you dont need to worry, there would still be the option of cancelling the lynch. If none of them have, then it might be wuite useful lynching me, as we'd see who suddenly piled their votes on at the end, giving us a direction to pursue.

Either way, we can probably learn something be looking at the votes, so if your suspicious of me and want to lynch me, do so.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 01, 2009, 08:41:04 AM
I think, because of the apathy inherent in this game (even Lee got lynched because he didn't log in and post), there will be no "piling on" of anything.  This game just isn't moving.  :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on February 01, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
Well, I'm not really suspicious of mr.Ben.  I think I'm just not going to vote unless I get bored and wan to see some action, or the deadline is approaching and I feel like makin' me a noose.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 01, 2009, 08:38:36 PM
I don't know how much longer we have until a lynch.
In order to keep this from stalling I'm going to throw down my list of suspects in order. Most suspisious to least.

alexbutterfield
Sandwich
Casper
Shin Hatsubai
Tai Fung
Mr Ben
karyn
Apharinde
1Pirate
Wastrel
Morvis13

Obviously I least suspect myself. If you haven't RCed and been very memorable with your pRC then I had no choice but to put you higher in the list. Ben's comments speak from experience but ring of innocence a bit. That moved him in my list.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on February 02, 2009, 02:55:46 AM
Long weekend.

Reading back, I'm actually inclined to believe Mr Ben.  I'm sort of meta-gaming here, but Mr Ben tends to piggyback his fake RCs(that is, he tends to use a real RC or flavor text to inspire his fake one, like when he claimed Dr Lee in SG-1, Buggehagen--Buggenga--Baggun--that observer guy in Final Fantasy VII, and Rudolph in the Christmas mafia) , so I don't think he'd have pRC'd a toy when there were safer options(of course, the counter-point is: maybe he learned his lesson after getting vig-killed by an angry gnome.  Second counter-point for meta-gamers from FF VII: "1Pirate talking Mr Ben out of a lynch?"="Oh noes!").

I'm a little too tired to articulate this second thing well, but the fact that Neutral Milk was night killed may have thrown the mafia off guard and since they can't talk during the day they might not have had a game plan for today.  I feel this is significant somehow, but I can't put my finger on why just yet.

What if our mafia persons already voted dispite the warning my 1Pirate?

Then that reduces the risk of a pile-on, but it's not a good idea to take chances.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 02, 2009, 09:23:16 PM
I don't know how much longer we have until a lynch.
In order to keep this from stalling I'm going to throw down my list of suspects in order. Most suspisious to least.

alexbutterfield
Sandwich
Casper
Shin Hatsubai
Tai Fung
Mr Ben
karyn
Apharinde
1Pirate
Wastrel
Morvis13

any reason why?

ts obvious who my rc is.

what the hell do we do?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on February 02, 2009, 11:03:26 PM
Mod note: What you do is make up your minds quick! Night in 35 hours.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 02, 2009, 11:15:41 PM
any reason why?

ts obvious who my rc is.

what the hell do we do?

Mostly cuz i got a memory like a sieve.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 03, 2009, 07:54:02 AM
Alex could you refresh my memory?
I remember you were the one that wanted to lynch Myra (who turned out innocent). You also defended Neutral Milk (who was guilty).
So I think this line may need some explaining.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on February 03, 2009, 11:43:45 PM
Alex is claiming Captain Feathersword, from an Australian kids TV show.  Anachronism is Australian, so she might have put him in here.  Sorry, that was too much meta-gaming :P

I know I'm not helping, but will we be able to get a lynch?  We only have a little over 10 hours left :P  The only votes so far have been cast for Mr Ben, and yeah he has the most out-there RC.  I don't want to just lynch him just for his shady RC, but we have really nothing to go with here.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 03, 2009, 11:56:12 PM
Alex could you refresh my memory?
I remember you were the one that wanted to lynch Myra (who turned out innocent). You also defended Neutral Milk (who was guilty).
So I think this line may need some explaining.

Well, I agreed that it was unlikely there would be two monkey islanders. I dont recall defending Myra per se, except that her vig rc made her a risky lynch. But I was always happy to lynch one of them, and then the other if necessary.

we might as well go for mr ben then.

vote mr ben

I dont like the idea of lynching our vig. But at the same time, I dont think I believe the claim.

1pirate raises a good argument, that if myra truly was a town vig, she would probably have killed NM already.

unvote NM

vote Myra


btw. when 1Pirate called for rcs from Myra and NM, on the off chance that the first would be scum and happen to rc the same character as the other, he asked NM to go first (a random choice apparently). The fact that NM was scum completely removes 1pirate from my suspicion.

Scum making that random decision about who went first, would have made sure it was Myra so that their scum buddy was able to give the safe. scum probably wouldnt have even brought it up.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on February 03, 2009, 11:58:02 PM
vote: mrben

more because I'd like to see the game move somewhere than any actual suspicion of him.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on February 04, 2009, 12:47:41 AM
Well, I agreed that it was unlikely there would be two monkey islanders. I dont recall defending Myra per se, except that her vig rc made her a risky lynch. But I was always happy to lynch one of them, and then the other if necessary.

Actually, you hedged your bets:
they are probably both innocent. Myra is just a victim of the nothing better to do situation.

You gave yourself a small out so you could justify not voting for Neutral Milk in the off chance he talked his way out of a lynch the next day(and NM's managed to talk his way out of tight spots before, so there was still a chance he'd make it another day), while still pushing for Myra's lynch(which I can't really blame you for--although it's just as well we lynched him that day as he probably would have been killed when his vig power didn't check out).

Not proof positive of scummyness, but I can see why Morvis has his suspicions(at least in this case  ;))

btw. when 1Pirate called for rcs from Myra and NM, on the off chance that the first would be scum and happen to rc the same character as the other, he asked NM to go first (a random choice apparently). The fact that NM was scum completely removes 1pirate from my suspicion.
Never mind the fact that he was the second scum the pRCs outed.  Incidentally, it might do to go back and see who put up any resistance to the pRCs(I know Neutral Milk was against them while it was still safe to do so).

vote: mrben

more because I'd like to see the game move somewhere than any actual suspicion of him.
If he's claiming a 50% self save, our vig can always test it out tonight; you shouldn't vote for him "just cause"(of course I could really have egg on my face if he is in fact scum).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 04, 2009, 07:07:23 AM
unvote

If people are going to vote for Mr. Ben, but think that he might be town because his RC is so screwy, but "let's just lynch someone anyway," is that a valid strategy?   If we're wrong, doesn't that put us down by 2 votes instead of 1, with a mafia night kill?

If we're sure that it's a valid test to vote for Mr. Ben, then great.  But let's not do something just because it seems hunky-dory.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 04, 2009, 07:10:07 AM
vote: mrben

more because I'd like to see the game move somewhere than any actual suspicion of him.
If he's claiming a 50% self save, our vig can always test it out tonight; you shouldn't vote for him "just cause"(of course I could really have egg on my face if he is in fact scum).

By the way, this is a good point.  The vig can target him to test his claim, and we wouldn't have to risk going down by 2 townies just on a hunch.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 04, 2009, 08:37:02 AM
Sorry but Alex's quickness to change the vote to Mr Ben is also suspicious.

Vote: alexbutterfield
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on February 04, 2009, 10:41:01 AM
The day once again ends with no casualties. You aren't very bloodthirsty pirates, are you?

Send in night actions!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 5]
Post by: Anachronism on February 07, 2009, 08:55:08 AM
Day dawns another gruesome double homocide.

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1268/theelegantcaptainhookisaa8.jpg)

(http://www.maximumfun.org/blog/uploaded_images/Robert-Hamburger-782031.jpg)

DEAD - 1Pirate - Captain Hook - Vanilla Townie
DEAD - Sandwich - Robert Hamburger- Mafia Goon

Day 7, go!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on February 07, 2009, 01:57:42 PM
Wrong Captain Hook.

Day dawns another gruesome double homocide.

(http://michaelmay.us/08blog/10/1023_isaacshook.jpg)

(http://www.maximumfun.org/blog/uploaded_images/Robert-Hamburger-782031.jpg)

DEAD - 1Pirate - Captain Hook - Vanilla Townie
DEAD - Sandwich - Robert Hamburger- Mafia Goon

Day 7, go!

Fixed.  ;)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 07, 2009, 03:37:57 PM
No worries Captain we'll avenge your death!

Sandwich was number 2 on my list.

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on February 07, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
It's al lot of VTs in this game!!!

I find it strange that no one comes out saying they've seen something, like X visited Y... but maybe thats the thing with basic. There is just cops, mafias and maybe vigs?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on February 07, 2009, 05:12:21 PM
Thats the thing thats confusing me. Im not entirely sure about what powers to expect. Id have thought mafia, VTs, doc and cop. Maybe one or two others. N then I get selfsave, so Im not sure what to expect.

I think the fact that we've already had two cops lowers the chance that there are other cop style powers out there, but it could also just be a watcher (i assume that's the power you were talking about) hasnt got any useful results and doesnt want to prematurely confirm someone as town.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 07, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
We may have lost our cop but we have a vigilanty.
Otherwise we wouldn't have had 2 deaths.
That Vig needs to keep up the good work.

I'd still very much like to keep Alex on the hot seat.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on February 08, 2009, 03:41:04 AM
We may have lost our cop but we have a vigilanty.
Otherwise we wouldn't have had 2 deaths.
That Vig needs to keep up the good work.

Well, we could have two mafias, and a great doctor that did a terrific job during the first 4 nights.... but I don't think so...  :D

I don't doubt the vig-theory, I just find it a little odd that there is a vig in a b2b-game. It is quite a powerful power for a basic game. But then again, what is basic?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 08, 2009, 12:30:38 PM
Still notsure why I'm top of your list morvis. It might have made me suspect you in return except that I believe your rc. It could just be a very good fake rc though   
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 08, 2009, 08:33:24 PM
You haven't answered my previous accusations so you are still on my list.

As you recall YOU wanted to lynch Myra (who turned out innocent). You also defended Neutral Milk (who was guilty).

You also have Shin answering to my reminder of your pRC. That raises my suspision of him and confirms my doubts about you.

No one, not even 1Pirate (whom i fought against) doubted my RC as genuine. That adds weight to you being a scum not me.

pressure: alexbutterfield
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 08, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
I already answered your question, not that it was a question. but since I have a massive head, I'll quote myself quoting myself...

Alex could you refresh my memory?
I remember you were the one that wanted to lynch Myra (who turned out innocent). You also defended Neutral Milk (who was guilty).
So I think this line may need some explaining.

Well, I agreed that it was unlikely there would be two monkey islanders. I dont recall defending Myra per se, except that her vig rc made her a risky lynch. But I was always happy to lynch one of them, and then the other if necessary.

we might as well go for mr ben then.

vote mr ben

I dont like the idea of lynching our vig. But at the same time, I dont think I believe the claim.

1pirate raises a good argument, that if myra truly was a town vig, she would probably have killed NM already.

unvote NM

vote Myra

btw. when 1Pirate called for rcs from Myra and NM, on the off chance that the first would be scum and happen to rc the same character as the other, he asked NM to go first (a random choice apparently). The fact that NM was scum completely removes 1pirate from my suspicion.

Scum making that random decision about who went first, would have made sure it was Myra so that their scum buddy was able to give the safe. scum probably wouldnt have even brought it up.

and you are seriously still asking?

You haven't answered my previous accusations so you are still on my list.

As you recall YOU wanted to lynch Myra (who turned out innocent). You also defended Neutral Milk (who was guilty).

You also have Shin answering to my reminder of your pRC. That raises my suspision of him and confirms my doubts about you.

No one, not even 1Pirate (whom i fought against) doubted my RC as genuine. That adds weight to you being a scum not me.

pressure: alexbutterfield


Shin suggesting my RC was believable is suspicious? how does that work? (and for the record I'm not saying shin isnt scum)

And I said I believed your RC!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 6, 6 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 08, 2009, 09:18:11 PM
Shin suggesting my RC was believable is suspicious? how does that work? (and for the record I'm not saying shin isnt scum)

And I said I believed your RC!

You have a voice and can speak for yourself. Your own innocence should be your top priority unless you are trying to hide something. Yet you avoided the question. A ninja would give as little information as possible. Quote themselves insecently to avoid slipping up in lies and have friends to back them up. They would also very quickly attempt to switch the target away from themselves like you did in the vote for Mr Ben.

No one else has acted like this.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 09, 2009, 11:18:45 AM
A ninja would give as little information as possible. Quote themselves insecently to avoid slipping up in lies

In that case - what does quoting you incessantly prove?

As for your certainty as to how a ninja would play - I'm not sure you have understood the idea of bluffing. There'd be no point in a ninja/mafia playing in a predictable way.

You have a voice and can speak for yourself. Your own innocence should be your top priority unless you are trying to hide something. Yet you avoided the question.

I never avoided a question - you never asked one for a start, except if i could refresh your memory of answers i'd already given, which i did.

...and have friends to back them up.

The fact that shin logged in before me is hardly something to be held as evidence for me being scum. I can't control what another player posts about me.

They would also very quickly attempt to switch the target away from themselves like you did in the vote for Mr Ben.

No one else has acted like this.

Actually I'm pretty sure I was following someone elses bandwagon.

The point is. I've given my RC, it's not listed on the first page because it was given in a very obvious pRC way to avoid upping the vote count. But it is extremely obvious who I am (especially since it is confirmed by the following poster). It's so obvious, in fact, that Anach then decided that pRCs that were confirmed by the next poster would subsequently count toward the extra vote count.

I could give a power claim - but I suspect that would count as an RC too and would up the vote count, and I havent even been asked for one. (and it will take more than you asking for me to give one)

The silliest thing is, you keep saying that I'm avoiding questions, but I'm actually the only one apart from you who is regularly posting in this thread.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 10, 2009, 08:05:06 PM
Far be it for me to kill the coversation but the peanut gallery should pipe in about now.

We'd like everyone's thoughts please.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 11, 2009, 01:16:36 PM
seriously guys. whats the problem with this game?

isnt this your first game, Morvis? If you like the principle but find this game glacial, then come across to the ILS boards, the games are a rushing torrent compared to this one.

Morvis - I reckon we just pick someone - why dont you pick, and we'll just vote for them until someone else jumps on the BW and they get lynched. I think we are beyond pressurign for RCs, lets just lynch the next person you call on.

(alternatively Anach could mod kill an inactive player - starting with the player who has least recently posted - and that can take the place of the lynch. Or how about 24 hour days and nights.)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 11, 2009, 02:00:35 PM
Sure put the pressure on me.

Since I don't want to kill an active member I'll go down my list to suspect number 3.

unvote

Vote: Casper


p.s. they haven't posted since Jan 31
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 11, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
correction. No post from Casper since Jan 30 th and that was a quick vote for Mr Ben.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on February 11, 2009, 02:10:10 PM
Hi you two. Sorry for the lack of posting today. Serious time issues. It was also quite interesting to watch you two fight it out.

Anyways, Casper sounds reasonable to me. Then again, I have a slight grudge against anyone who voted for me. Including you Alex.

So Vote Casper for now.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 11, 2009, 05:52:44 PM
Casper has a pretty solid rc. Long john silver! But what the hell
Vote Casper

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 11, 2009, 06:15:26 PM
I was also watching you two go at it.  Plus, I only tend to get heavy into Mafia games if (1) I'm mafia, or (2) I know the theme.

Are we just going to push all the way through on Casper, or wait for his challenge?  I'm hesitant to vote for him (#4) unless we're just going to lynch and try to gain info.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on February 11, 2009, 08:48:01 PM
I hate to just lynch the inactive players, but in this game...  :P  Casper also has a pretty strong RC as well.  We haven't gotten any info from any lynch since both cops died, so it's tough to tell.  I'm going to have to dig up 1Pirate's pRC list to remember what people are again.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on February 11, 2009, 08:55:52 PM
Here we go...  this might help:

RC'd:

Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT
Mr Ben - CLAIMS - Cannonball
Morvis13 - CLAIMS - Grace O'Malley
Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts
Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte

pRC'd:

alexbutterfield - Captain Feathersword
karyn - Shawn Fanning
Wastrel - Guy from the "Black Freighter"
Apharinde - Francis Drake
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 11, 2009, 09:46:14 PM
Yes that does help but what are you suggesting we do?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 12, 2009, 02:49:42 AM
casper is solid, lets lynch the weakest rcs.

so lets lynch wastrel. thats a pretty weak rc, very obscure, could easily be fake.

unvote

vote wastrel


since someones actually posted today we might as well go for a sensible lynch.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 12, 2009, 02:50:51 AM
I only tend to get heavy into Mafia games if (1) I'm mafia.

except for this game, eh?  :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on February 12, 2009, 08:05:00 AM
Well, everyone we vote for now is just pure speculation no matter what.  I'll wait until there is signifigant weight towards someone before I throw in my vote, though.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 12, 2009, 08:20:20 AM
Frankly, as long as we're seeking out the "weakest" RC, that takes me back to the Transformer claim (Mr. Ben).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 12, 2009, 08:54:46 AM
unvote

I'm not sure I follow the reasoning for lynching Mr Ben.
I do however have sufficient cause for changing my vote.

Our suspect claims to be fictional comic book character has always been shaky.
He was the first to propose lynching an innocent pirate and has previously been on the chopping block and weaseled his way off.

This time lets follow thru.

vote: wastrel
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on February 12, 2009, 10:58:33 AM
I'm not sure I follow the reasoning for lynching Mr Ben.
I do however have sufficient cause for changing my vote.

Our suspect claims to be fictional comic book character has always been shaky.
He was the first to propose lynching an innocent pirate and has previously been on the chopping block and weaseled his way off.

This time lets follow thru.

How was I the first to proposed lynching a pirate?

And I weaseled my way off?  Explain this.  I was asked to give my media type, and I did.  I was asked to give the specific media, and I did.

Tell me what weaseling I have done, good sir.  I find your irritating rhetoric and incessant blathering annoying.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 12, 2009, 11:16:56 AM
is being rude a role restriction? i didnt realise lobster was modding this game.

if its your first game and nobody contributes for days on end, i think long posts can be forgiven.

anyway i dont need justification, i think your rc is weak.

now would be the the time to give a power claim, not just insult people.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on February 12, 2009, 02:44:58 PM
I'm willing to vote for Wrastle for his extremely annoying avatar!!!

Here we go...  this might help:

RC'd:

Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT
Mr Ben - CLAIMS - Cannonball
Morvis13 - CLAIMS - Grace O'Malley
Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts
Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte

pRC'd:

alexbutterfield - Captain Feathersword
karyn - Shawn Fanning
Wastrel - Guy from the "Black Freighter"
Apharinde - Francis Drake

Thanks, that helped!

This game is moving so slow that i tend to forget about it, sorry.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on February 12, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
I'm willing to vote for Wrastle for his extremely annoying avatar!!!

You misspelled "totally awesome"
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Beleth on February 12, 2009, 03:01:02 PM
I'm willing to vote for Wrastle for his extremely annoying avatar!!!

You misspelled "totally awesome"

Your avatar has now beaten out Homestar Runner as my son's favorite thing to look at on the Internets.  Bastard.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on February 12, 2009, 03:04:08 PM
I'm willing to vote for Wrastle for his extremely annoying avatar!!!

You misspelled "totally awesome"

Your avatar has now beaten out Homestar Runner as my son's favorite thing to look at on the Internets.  Bastard.

I could think of a lot worse things for your son to suddenly start liking to watch on the internet.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on February 12, 2009, 04:24:15 PM
I'm willing to vote for Wrastle for his extremely annoying avatar!!!

You misspelled "totally awesome"

Your avatar has now beaten out Homestar Runner as my son's favorite thing to look at on the Internets.  Bastard.

 ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 12, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
like the line right under his avatar
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on February 12, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
sorry for the absence I had forgotten about this one :(

vote: wastrel
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 13, 2009, 07:35:28 AM
One thing I don't like about this game is not knowing how long we have until night. what time is it anyway?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 13, 2009, 02:54:28 PM
i know what you mean. we could do with the pressure of a time limit (this day has been going like a week)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on February 13, 2009, 04:09:03 PM
That's 3 votes on wastrel (I think).  I don't really want to rush the lynch here, but with the day dragging on like this I don't know what else to do.  We really don't have anything to go on here, and since the game is slow behavior is going to be tough to point out.

vote: wastrel
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on February 14, 2009, 12:51:54 AM
Deadline is Monday!

I figured it'd be silly to have short deadlines and then have lots of no lynches and mod-kills (Though that would be fun).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Mr Ben on February 14, 2009, 11:31:17 AM
unvote

Vote Wastrel
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 14, 2009, 04:36:02 PM
Get walking the plank you waskally Wastrel!

Votes in order placed:
alexbutterfield
Morvis13
Casper
Shin Hatsubai
Mr Ben
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on February 15, 2009, 03:29:51 PM
I said to myself before I logged in: "If Wrastle hasn't changed his avatar, I'm voting for him".

Well, he has changed his avatar... but it is still annoying!

It doesn't matter now anyhow, his is dead...

Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 4, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on February 16, 2009, 01:51:00 PM
Another one bites the dust.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2211/2081672053_ded1f2445d.jpg)

LYNCHED - Wastrel - Kisaragi Yuffie, Mafia Roleblocker

Night 7! Actions plz, kthxbai.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 7, 5 to lynch]
Post by: wastrel on February 16, 2009, 07:08:10 PM
I said to myself before I logged in: "If Wrastle hasn't changed his avatar, I'm voting for him".

Well, he has changed his avatar... but it is still annoying!

It doesn't matter now anyhow, his is dead...

It's wastrel ;)

And more annoying?  It's a Hypercube FFS!!!!

[/dead]
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 7]
Post by: Anachronism on February 17, 2009, 11:50:01 PM
People are really dropping like flies now.

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/6/66/Cannonball_UT.jpg#20060519220709)

(http://www.ekatieholm.com/WomenWarriors_GraceOmalley_web_sm.jpg)

DEAD - Mr Ben - Cannonball - 50% Self-save
DEAD - Morvis13 - Grace O'Malley- Vanilla Townie

Day 8, go!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: 1Pirate on February 18, 2009, 12:23:20 AM
I'm more inclined to believe wastrel then 1pirate

Famous last words  :D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch]
Post by: Apharinde on February 18, 2009, 02:21:14 AM
Okey, 4 mafia goons are dead and there are six players left. I'm guessing that there is just one mafia left. That would make the mafia squad 25 % of the players.

(You guys might have figured that out already. I'm a bit slow.)

That means that there is just one terrified ninja lurking among us!

Of course there could be more ninjas out there, 6 out of 20 would make 30% of us mafia goons. Is that a strong mafia squad? In that case we need to be very careful!

So far we just have one power claim among us. And that is Casper claiming to be a VT (this is acording to the first page). We know that there is a vig out there... are the rest of us VTs?

Hm, I'm babeling and I need to work... so see you when I figured out something useful to say.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 18, 2009, 03:54:45 AM
RC'd:

Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT
Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts
Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte

pRC'd:

alexbutterfield - Captain Feathersword
karyn - Shawn Fanning
Apharinde - Francis Drake

of these i think Long John Silver is totally solid.
I know I am - and I'll say now, that I am not VT. but my power isnt much use. dont want to RC it because it will add another vote to the lynches. I think I should be pretty trustworthy having called out Wastrel as the weakest RC, and because I've never heard of my character while anachronism (who is an aussie) obviosly has reason to.

all the others seem like safe rc's except for Francis Drake, who was in the Navy.

from wiki

Quote
His exploits were legendary, making him a hero to the English but a simple pirate to the Spaniards.

but i dont buy it.

vote apharinde
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 3, 9 to lynch]
Post by: Morvis13 on February 18, 2009, 08:15:32 AM
I'm more inclined to believe wastrel then 1pirate

Famous last words  :D

Doesn't mean I trust you. Avenge my death. </ghost>
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 18, 2009, 02:27:33 PM

I know I am - and I'll say now, that I am not VT. but my power isnt much use. dont want to RC it because it will add another vote to the lynches.
but i dont buy it.


I can't be certain, but it appears that it's now 5 to lynch, not 4 (Anachronism changed the subject line of the thread to add a "+1").  Like you, I know I'm town (Kikyo in fact pointed out that I was actually one of the cooler pirates out there when I RC'd very (very!) early in the game).  But now we need 5 to lynch, not 4, so I'm not optimistic for today (I'm assuming it was your post that added the extra vote requirement, because I don't see who else it could have been).

Also, it seems we've assumed that there was a Vig out there -- is there any chance we're dealing with a SK, and the doc just got very lucky on his protect choices early in the game?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch +1!]
Post by: Apharinde on February 18, 2009, 04:05:26 PM

Also, it seems we've assumed that there was a Vig out there -- is there any chance we're dealing with a SK, and the doc just got very lucky on his protect choices early in the game?

I've been thinking about that SK theory as well. But the second killer has only killed people we believed to be mafias. He/she did the right thing two out of three times. And the third time some people were really suspicious about Mr Ben

But you could be right!

I've must have been dozing through this game. I didn't know that power claims added another vote to a lynch. And I don't understand why we suddenly have 5 votes for at lynch. Is claiming not to be a VT a power claim?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch +1!]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on February 18, 2009, 07:15:44 PM
5 to lynch with 6 people left?  That's rough :P

I think alexbutterfield's reasoning about Sir Francis Drake seems sound.  After reading through the bio's I think he is the least pirate-like.  Everyone else is listed as a pirate, while he just is a "privateer."  Hopefully there is one mafia member left, making it 5 vs 1, so we can get the lynch.

vote: apharinde
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch +1!]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 18, 2009, 08:19:26 PM
I hadn't thought of the "pirate vs. privateer" thing.  If we have to go with that as our basis, fine, I'll be #3 then.

Vote:  Apharinde
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch +1!]
Post by: Karyn on February 19, 2009, 12:13:15 AM
vote: apharinde

#4
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch +1!]
Post by: Apharinde on February 19, 2009, 02:30:57 AM
I do understand why you guys reason the way you do. I had never heard of my charachter before this game and I did tend to forget his/her name. I had to look him/her up all the time.

I don't think he/she is much of a pirate either. To me it doesn't make sense that he/she is in the game.

I could self save by RCing and therefor adding another vote to lynch... but the vig out there will probably kill me during the night anyway so I won't.

What is there more to say? Please don't lynch me!!! :'( I'm a pirate just like you guys.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch +1!]
Post by: Casper on February 19, 2009, 03:34:03 AM
Let's seal this
vote: Apharinde
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 8, 4 to lynch +1!]
Post by: Anachronism on February 19, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
He might have been the bane of the Spanish army, but he just wasn't mean enough for the rest of the crew.

LYNCHED - apharinde - Francis Drake - Vigilante

Send in night actions!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 8]
Post by: Anachronism on February 24, 2009, 04:34:13 AM
It's nice to wake up to zero casualties, don't you think?

Day 9, go!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 24, 2009, 02:51:30 PM
Update time:

RC'd:

Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT
Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts
Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte

pRC'd:

alexbutterfield - Captain Feathersword
karyn - Shawn Fanning

Okay. so we have 5 left. probably 4 town 1 scum

For some reason no one got killed last night. So either there's a town role-blocker out there who knows who the scum is. A doctor who knows at least one player it isn't. Someone with a self save of some kind. --all of which I doubt.

or Mafia are paying so little attention that they didn't get their night action in on time (it was a very long night).

If one of us has a positive id on the killer and we power rc to give our result then the scum could just counterclaim, and then we'd need 5 votes to lynch and scum could not vote and we'd have a no lynch.

However if that happens - there are two possibilities:

if Town rc's and points to scum > scum counter-rc >

1. not knowing who is who, we back town and we can only get the 4 votes we need. = no lynch (tomorrow we have 4 players inc. one scum we need 3 votes to lynch. having already rc'd scum couldnt add another vote for the day, so we just lynch the player who is now obvious scum)

2. not knowing who is who, we back scum and we easily get the first 4 votes, but then if the innocent townie who is reluctant to cast the lynching vote on themselves just does so. the next day we will know who the scum is, we'll have 3 players left and it will be an easy town win.

Therefore - if you have a positive id on the killer come out and say so.

if not - say you dont then we can move on to another avenue of investigation.

--For what its worth, if it helps, I believe Casper is solid

Anach - could you please confirm that if a player has already rc'd they cannot rc again another day to just add a vote.

(also, as i have already had a vote upped because of rc'ing if I were to rc again, or power claim, that wont add a vote, right? that is, the same player can't add a bonus vote twice in the game?)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on February 25, 2009, 02:50:29 AM
Mod note: Letting someone stop their lynch by "RCing" repeatedly would be silly. :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 26, 2009, 12:55:27 AM
OK. Plan 2.

vote Karyn

she was the only one to not vote for wastrel when he was lynched and turned out scum.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 26, 2009, 09:42:32 AM
Fine, we're basically shooting in the dark anyway.

vote:  Karyn
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on February 26, 2009, 10:35:01 AM
yeah, figures.

I'm a vanilla townie.  There is nothing I'm going to be able to say to get you not to vote for me at this point, so we might as well just get it over with.

vote: me
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on February 26, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
Not really needed but
vote: Karyn
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 26, 2009, 02:40:49 PM
yeah, figures.

I'm a vanilla townie.  There is nothing I'm going to be able to say to get you not to vote for me at this point, so we might as well just get it over with.

vote: me

damn. I'm not really confident now after this post.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on February 26, 2009, 03:27:29 PM
yeah, figures.

I'm a vanilla townie.  There is nothing I'm going to be able to say to get you not to vote for me at this point, so we might as well just get it over with.

vote: me

damn. I'm not really confident now after this post.

oh well.  Too late  :-[
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on February 26, 2009, 06:05:59 PM
Sorry guys, I seem to have missed the day...  :P  I guess we can see what happens to Karyn.  I think she is town, because why would she vote for herself when the scum can just sit back and make use of this inactivity?  Thankfully no one died last night, because we can't afford any more screw ups now.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 26, 2009, 06:46:27 PM
Sorry guys, I seem to have missed the day...  :P  I guess we can see what happens to Karyn.  I think she is town, because why would she vote for herself when the scum can just sit back and make use of this inactivity?  Thankfully no one died last night, because we can't afford any more screw ups now.

This smacks of a self fulfilling prophecy ;)

I wonder if there's still time to unvote and vote for shin? He was next on my list anyway.

unvote

vote Shin


if we are quick maybe we can get away with this? Karyn, you with me?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Karyn on February 26, 2009, 08:01:07 PM
I seriously doubt it will work.

unvote

vote: shin
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on February 26, 2009, 08:22:00 PM
Unvote

Let's hear from Anachronism.  If the day isn't over, we have tons of time to talk this out.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on February 26, 2009, 11:45:13 PM
Lets get talking then.

I can see Mafia saying what Karyn said (and voting for herself) if there were other mafia left, but I'm sticking with my estimation of only one left.

Weighing up the RCs remaining:

Casper - CLAIMS - Long John Silver, VT
I totally buy this, if you are thinking of pirates then LJS is on your list.

Shin Hatsubai - CLAIMS - Bartholomew Roberts
RC is possible - I've heard of Black Bart at least. His post about missing the day, is all a bit...

Tai Fung - CLAIMS - Jean Lafitte
I've never heard of Lafitte, so this puts Tai Fung lower on my list.

alexbutterfield - Captain Feathersword
Anachronism is Australian and would therefore have good reference to know who CF is. Therefore my RC should be considered totally solid. (Also I've started--as well as some unsuccessful BWs--some successful ones too)

karyn - Shawn Fanning
Her play hasn't been especially scummy, although she was the only one not to vote for the last scum that was killed and it's not like she didn't log in to post meta-game stuff while we were all voting.

In order of suspicion

Shin
Tai/Karyn
Casper
(Me)

anyone want to add these pros-cons?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on February 26, 2009, 11:49:17 PM
Are you serious?  She had 4 votes on her, that's a lynch.  I don't understand why you're suddenly throwing suspicion on me.  Yeah, I understand my post was pretty meaningless, but what was I supposed to say after we had suddenly piled votes on Karyn for a lynch?  I logged on to post after the lynch.  I'm sorry.  I have done some good things for town, things that have actually helped us have a small chance with winning this game after the cops we killed.  We can't screw up the lynches any more.  If Karyn turns out to be town, you should be looking at the people who rushed to lynch her.

And I am a girl :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 9, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on February 27, 2009, 01:38:20 AM
Internet pirates have it tough.

LYNCHED - Karyn - Shawn Fanning, Vanilla Townie

Night actions due in 48 hours!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 8]
Post by: Anachronism on February 28, 2009, 11:49:58 PM
It's nice to wake up to zero casualties, don't you think?

Day 9 10, go!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 01, 2009, 01:36:31 AM
Ok, I've seen about enough of this -- my vote is on Alex, not Shin at this point.  He keeps mentioning in every post about his RC to "remind" us that Anachronism is from Australia, and that Captain Feathersword is Australian.  But Anachronism is not a parent, and while the Wiggles are known in Oz-land, they are notoriously DISliked by non-parents (the way many non-parents in the US don't like Barney).  So either it's a ready-made RC, or a fake one, using Anachronism's home as a basis for making the claim.

In fact, I note from the first page, each of the remaining four of us (except Alex) has "CLAIMS (role)."  Alex's doesn't.  That's because he's done everything BUT RC, and I think in this situation, when we have little to go on, it's because there is a game-mechanic we'd be able to root out and detect him as Mafia.  Something is up, and I think he's the root of it.

Casper and Shin RC'd on Day 1.  I RC'd on Day 2.  Alex has only pRC'd, and only in the context of talking about Anachronism being an Aussie.  Kikyo pointed out when I RC'd that I was known and a cool pirate, and obviously Casper is a pirate as well.  I had to look up Shin's, but that's a "pirate-pirate."  So that brings me back to the single player who hasn't RC'd, and I suspect it has to do with the rules regarding RCs and the total vote.

So, enough of this (and enough threats of mod kills, this post counts for me!): 

Vote:  Alex
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on March 01, 2009, 03:52:41 PM
Yeah, this is ridiculous...  I did believe Alex because of the Aussieness of his pRC.  He said he wasn't VT though, right?  But it's really come down to three good pirate RCs, and I don't know what to think right now >_<.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on March 02, 2009, 01:37:18 AM
working up from my list of "not notable pirates"

vote: alex
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 02, 2009, 03:45:55 AM
whoa there

let's not get hasty.

Im just checking with anach to see if giving my rc (ie. my power) will add a vote.

but dont go rushing this.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on March 02, 2009, 04:06:17 AM
Mod note: the role claim as stipulated in the roles involve names only.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 02, 2009, 04:23:34 AM
sweet. I am a Jailkeeper.

most of the game I targeted Casper because he said he was a VT and he had a strong RC. I think scum often target strong rc's for night kills because it weakens the competition when it comes to choosing lynches based on rc strength.

two nights ago I didnt target anyone because I wanted to give Casper a chance to do something if he was hiding his power behind a VT claim.

last night I targeted Tai Fung. and there were no kills.

that doesnt automatically say TF is scum, he could've been the target, but I think that by the same logic as above, scum would have targeted Casper or me.

Therefore it is more likely that my jailkeeper power roleblocked TF's ninja night kill.

vote Tai Fung

(I am aware that TF can't believe this claim, he has to try and push through on my lynch, especially since I am not taking my vote off him for anyone - and Casper and Shin would not vote for themselves if TF tried to change tack. That means either me or TF get lynched today. If you do lynch me, then scum win, they will kill tonight and that's game over.)

So in my defense, it's not just the australian connection, but the fact that I led bandwagons to lynch scum.

Ask yourselves this question? do you have a pwer that could have prevented the night kill? And when the answer is no, there is simply no option but to remove your vote from me.

Casper, Shin, join me in putting all our eggs in one basket. one of you could be the last scum and not TF, but I dont believe it. It has to be TF.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 02, 2009, 08:10:37 AM
A sidekick in a children's TV show is a "JailKeeper?"  lolwut.

And there is another (more obvious) reason why there was no night kill last night, and you have me to thank for it.    8)  Hey, sooner or later I'd hit on the correct target.  (You're welcome Casper)

And yay for snow days!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 02, 2009, 08:12:44 AM
I also note that you didn't target me on Night 9, but there were no kills that night either.  Yet you didn't speak up.  Only now that I've had my "fed up with the Wiggles RC" post have you come forward.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 02, 2009, 12:31:21 PM
I also note that you didn't target me on Night 9, but there were no kills that night either.  Yet you didn't speak up.  Only now that I've had my "fed up with the Wiggles RC" post have you come forward.

what? I did target you on night 9 - that's what i just said.  ::)

This is obvious shenanigans from Tai, I've been honest, I made it clear before that I had a power and this is it.

The logic is that the rest of you (apart from Tai who is a ninja) are all violent pirates and I'm an all singing all dancing pirate, not violent at all - and that's why I was made the doctor. But I also put on a show for the person I protect which roleblocks them at the same time. (also if I was faking it, why wouldnt I just fake role-blocker?)

i wasnt 100% that tai was guilty - I could have been protecting him rather than roleblocking him - but his response - to make a typical scum desperate counterclaim just confirms it.

I understand that Casper and Shin, you have the decision to make about who to believe. (though it's pretty obvious)

What I ask is that you consider the way the two of us have played this game.

I have been open throughout. I've posted at length about exactly what I was thinking, I've started bandwagons against scum (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg437328.html#msg437328), here it was Wastrel (claiming the guy from the black freighter). TF tried to defend him:

Frankly, as long as we're seeking out the "weakest" RC, that takes me back to the Transformer claim (Mr. Ben).


He also didnt vote in this scum lynch.

Tai has been quiet, quiet, quiet, now its the last day I better speak up and try and get someone lynched.

haha, he got this in a few days ago to defend his inactivity. I've been scum with Tai before and he's just slightly on the inactive side, but he's certainly active enough to not be suspiciously quiet. He'd have posted more if he was a pirate though.
...I only tend to get heavy into Mafia games if (1) I'm mafia, or (2) I know the theme.

And now he puts the nail in the coffin by making a transparent counter-claim.

The facts are - all the evidence points to Tai Fung. No evidence points to me - Tai is just trying a desperate bid to turn the tables at the last minute.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 02, 2009, 12:43:09 PM
I just skimmed the last 20 pages.

Tai has posted less than I remembered. i cant find one example of him defending an innocent. when the bw was on a pirate he just left us to it.

the only person he defended was wastrel
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on March 02, 2009, 02:04:45 PM
mmm nah sorry, my vote stays. I just find Jean Lafitte a prominent pirate. Maybe I'm wrong and it's only the casual fact that I know of him but still.... Vote will stay. Sorry if you happen to be telling the truth.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on March 02, 2009, 03:43:02 PM
I dunno I was thinking it over a lot yesterday (really I was)...  I would rather vote for Tai Fung right now.  I buy that there could be a jail keeper in this game.  The roles don't necessarily have to make sense, Jack Sparrow was a cop.

vote: tai fung
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on March 02, 2009, 04:01:08 PM
I may be grasping at straws here...  but here is the list of "real" pirates in the game.

Calico Jack - 1682-1720
Grace O'Malley - 1530-1603
Black Bart - 1682-1722
Francis Drake - 1540-1596
Jean Lafitte - 1776-1823

I'm going to go home from work now and go out to dinner, but I will check back later.  We can't mess up this lynch.  I don't know why Karyn voted for herself because we rushed the lynch and couldn't reason things out and we're down another townie.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 02, 2009, 04:47:53 PM
Casper: it's up to you. All you have to do is vote Tai Fung and we win.

I dont know what else will persuade you.

Think about why you are voting for me? I really dont see a reason.

The only possible one is that TF has called me out on a lie.

But it is obviously him that is lying!

For days I have been saying that you are the strongest RC - if I were scum I'd have killed you before saying any of that. But Im not and I spent most of the game protecting you.

I dont know how you can think my rc is fake. it's completely outside my paradigm. I could have found a real pirate or a famous fictional one no problem there are thousands of them. One Eyed Willy for example. It wouldnt have been hard. Why the hell would I fake rc something.... how the hell could I... fake rc someone i've never heard of?

forget the rcs. both of them are reasonable which is why are both still alive.

look at the way we've played the game. I havent done anything scummy. and Tai is all scum - he's quiet, he's used a classic last ditch counter claim...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 02, 2009, 04:49:49 PM
by the way, I'm even more convinced its Tai Fung, by the fact that either of you - Shin, Casper - could have just rushed the lynch on a townie (if you were the last bad guy). That niether of you have just puts that last 10% of doubt out of my mind.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 02, 2009, 05:33:47 PM
Two points:

1.  If I were Mafia, I would have killed Alex long ago, because he was clearly an active player.

2.  We've had TWO straight nights of no kills, but Alex says he only "jailkeep'd" me for one of them (last night).  What happened the other night?  Like I said, the reason is me.  Done and done.

At this point, I don't care.  I've said my peace, if people want to pick a children's pirate as a jailkeeper (and disliked by the non-yet-parentals) over an ACTUAL pirate who RC'd early, fine.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 02, 2009, 09:50:26 PM
Either I'm really stupid or you are just wrong.

We only had no kill last night! (night 9)

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg403090.html#msg403090

I only jailkeep'd you last night. which is consistent with the game.

Whereas your bs claim that you saved the kill on both previous nights doesnt make sense.

Busted.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on March 03, 2009, 02:56:11 AM
Either I'm really stupid or you are just wrong.

We only had no kill last night! (night 9)

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg403090.html#msg403090

I only jailkeep'd you last night. which is consistent with the game.

Whereas your bs claim that you saved the kill on both previous nights doesnt make sense.

Busted.

Night 9 and 10 had no kills
Vote stays
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 03, 2009, 04:45:47 AM
OK. I figured it out. It was night 8 and 9 that had no kills. not 9 and 10. I missed it when I was skimming back because there was no picture. and it doesnt say on the first page that its day 10 (meaning it only lists one night of no kills)

Hmm. I didn't target anyone night 8.

So that means for some reason mafia's kill failed.

Casper if you have any power that saved yourself or me or shin or karyn on night 8.
or
Shin if you have a power that did that...

you should probably come out and say so. power claims dont add votes, and adding a vote makes no difference - so we dont get the lynch today... so what? nobody will die tonight because I can roleblock TF, meaning he cant kill you two. He could kill me, but then you'd know it was him, so he'd lose.

I wonder what would happen if we vote for a no lynch and I didn't use my power?
If TF killed me, you'd kill him and it's game over.
If TF killed Shin, Casper would just have to choose who to trust
If TF killed Casper, Shin would just have to choose who to trust
Or TF doesnt kill and we have groundhog day
haha - fun choice for TF there. He could kill Shin because she trusts me. But that would look too obvious, so he could kill Casper to make Shin think I'd killed the one going against me.

That wouldn't work out. If it goes to a no lynch, I'm role blocking TF. and the next day he'll just say he protected one of you, there's no proof either way.

Get it over with Casper, come on. If TF wins by making that desperate counter claim then that's just sad.

For god's sake, I started the bandwagon on Wastrel and TF didnt vote for him! Like I'd kill off my last partner in crime. that alone is plenty enough to convict TF
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 03, 2009, 04:55:31 AM
I've thought of a foolproof test.  :D

1.Tai Fung chooses who he is going to protect and he writes that name down in a secure place (I'll get to this)

2.we vote for a no lynch

3.I roleblock TF, there is no kill (and we lynch him - but I'm getting ahead of the plan)

4.in the morning you will be able to see either:

a.noone is dead so you lynch TF
b.one of you is dead, meaning the killer hit his target. we then open the name that TF sealed and of course it'd have to be the other one of you because he's claiming doctor.

(I suppose he could accuse me of deliberately not killing someone so that i would cast doubt on him and therefore we'd be back where we are now)

forget it. thats the loophole in the plan.

casper just vote or my posts are gonna keep going and you'll have to read all this drivel for ever.

(at least I dont have to figure out how to do a post-dated message online. I know its possible, someone was telling me about in the past when we were masoned.)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 03, 2009, 06:25:14 AM
Either I'm really stupid or you are just wrong.

We only had no kill last night! (night 9)

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php/topic,16455.msg403090.html#msg403090

I only jailkeep'd you last night. which is consistent with the game.

Whereas your bs claim that you saved the kill on both previous nights doesnt make sense.

Busted.


Umm, LOL -- FAIL!   :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 03, 2009, 01:09:11 PM
Hey - we were both wrong  ;)

and dont give me that - you know you are scum - and you know you're hanging by a thread.

(and you know I'm not, and that I'm about to be hanging by a rope)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on March 03, 2009, 07:08:43 PM
I don't have any power. Your story doesn't match. Either you got completely confused over your own actions or it's all bs... I'm guessing the second...

vote stays
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 03, 2009, 07:44:24 PM
Whatever.

I don't want to throw in the towel and vote for myself, but I don't see the point in continuing to try. I don't get how it isn't obvious to you that TF is scum.

I HAVE STARTED BANDWAGONS ON SCUM - TF didn't even vote in the last one!

Shin - put me out of my misery.

(well played TF)

btw. I am a bit confused about my night actions. I dont know where the setting to save messages in my outbox is so I am going on memory which as we all know...

I'll give Shin time to cast the lynching vote on me but if it comes to it, I'm going to lynch myself before we have a no lynch. (I'm not starting a groundhog day by blocking TF every night and failing to talk Casper around)

What is the deadline for this day Anach?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 03, 2009, 08:17:35 PM
Either vote for yourself, or don't.  But just saying that you will, someday, maybe do it?  Frankly, that's just showmanship.  So in that sense, well played yourself, it's really your only remaining angle after the faux pas of your accusation.   8)


Look at it this way -- maybe when this game ends, we can all (finally!) be able to restart the Mole.   ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 03, 2009, 08:42:32 PM
unfortunately the only way I have of showing you people is to kill myself.

and i'll do it before the next night, if shin hasnt first, or casper hasnt come to his senses. It's not showmanship - but why am telling you that? you know.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on March 03, 2009, 11:37:18 PM
Look at it this way -- maybe when this game ends, we can all (finally!) be able to restart the Mole.   ;D

LOL - Yeah unfortunately Hubbub won't be able to run that until at least this summer...

I dunno, at this point I still don't want to vote for alex.  The two nights without a kill is odd of course, but I just don't see it.  If alex really is mafia, then I am going to feel really stupid, because it just seems to me like he's not.  I was also sketched out by Tai Fung's comment that he is only active in a game if he knows the theme or if he's mafia :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 04, 2009, 03:40:11 AM
Shin -- to be to fair to me on that point, I stated that way back when the game was barely moving (except for Morvis and Alex, who mostly just accused each other of being scum).  Morvis obviously turned out ok.  ;)   We're clearly at a point where the game can end now.

Alex does believe it to be be me, and I'm obviously convinced it's Alex.  At this point, I think the slip up he made should cut in my favor, even taking the plausibility of the various pirate claims out.

But for the record -- if it turns out to be you or Casper, and there's something else at work I haven't thought of, then I bow at your collective feet for getting us to throw poo at each other like monkeys.     :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 04, 2009, 12:28:31 PM
But for the record -- if it turns out to be you or Casper, and there's something else at work I haven't thought of, then I bow at your collective feet for getting us to throw poo at each other like monkeys.     :P


haha - very good. that's just what I keep thinking... what if...? You've done well to put yourself in the mindset of town, but I'm not buying it. There have have been 2 votes on each of us for long enough. If Shin or Casper are the scum then I'm not bowing down - i'm asking why they hell they didnt pile on and win the game.

therefore.... I know its you.

oh, casper.  :(
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 04, 2009, 04:25:08 PM
I only jailkeep'd you last night. which is consistent with the game.


And I say again (as I've pointed out over and over) -- this was an incorrect claim, and certainly not one you could easily forgotten if it had been true.

Moreover, Casper and I have each called you out on it.  I don't know how much more plain I can be about it for Shin, but if you're going to plead for Casper to come around, then I'm going to ask Shin to come around with me and Casper.  Hell, even if she discounted both you and I as cancelling each other out, you've got an impartial player (Casper) who sees this as a done deal.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 04, 2009, 07:38:20 PM
touché

It is obvious to casper and shin that they are both good guys. It just remains for one of them to change their mind about us.

You come back to an argument you are exagerating. I have no explanation for night 8s no kill. But why should I?

On the other hand I've lead lynches against scum. You didn't even vote against wastrel.  You shouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Shin doesn't have to switch her vote because I'll lynch myself before the day is out and shin can have the conselation of being right. Casper on the other hand is attributing disproportianate suspicion to both of our actions.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on March 05, 2009, 01:35:31 AM
It's just that man... really.... The Wiggles?  ;D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 05, 2009, 02:10:12 AM
I know. I've never heard of it before.

C'mon Casper, you won't regret it. There's no more arguments I can make. TF has played it well and he's done a fine job to get this close to winning today, but the proof against him is just too much to deny and the evidence against me is overwhelmingly countered by the evidence for me

Against me                                                 
My pirate claim is weird
I can't explain night 8s no kill                       

For me
My RC is something Anach would know and I wouldnt know
I can explain night 9s no kill - I role blocked (jailkept) TF
I told you about my power before I gave it (unlike TF who just desperately counter-claimed)
I started bandwagons against scum
I've been maybe the most active player (not a usual scum tactic)

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Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 05, 2009, 08:28:48 AM
I love these "here are the pro and con lists" when they're made by one of the advocates.  It's all, "On the one hand, I'm great, and on the other hand, he sucks."  So rather than make one, I'll simply refute yours.

First of all, counterclaims in Mafia ARE standard.  You don't come out and announce yourself as Homer Simpson unless someone else s trying to claim that (which would be stupid in a Simpsons Mafia, etc.).  You don't claim Doc early on (I RC'd on day two), because it hurts the town.

Next, I backed off lynching Mr. Ben when I was RIGHT THERE and could have done it, but something didn't seem right.  You have also participated in the lynching of Townies.  So I had the same concern over Wastrel, because of the Watchmen connection.  Anachronism being interested in Watchmen seems WAY more plausible than her liking a children's pirate.  So I didn't vote to lynch Wastrel, the same way I deliberately unvoted against Mr. Ben.

Furthermore, YOU pushed for the lynch on Karyn, and then immediately moved onto Shin when Karyn was willing to sacrifice herself.  I simply unvoted and wanted to talk it out.

Anyway, your claim IS out of character for the game, and a counterclaim is a legitimate way we have of rooting out scum.  Your activity in the game, which you declare is NOT a usual scum tactic, is actually not a good indicator.  Some scum are all over the game, others lay low.

So, again, I say to Shin, you have an observer, Casper, who is not as on the fence as you, which is a decent barometer that my claim, power, and activity are more on the up-and-up than someone who "forgot" his action two nights ago until the error was pointed out.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 05, 2009, 10:54:02 AM
none  of that refutes anything - that's just talking. seriously?

First of all, counterclaims in Mafia ARE standard.  ... a counterclaim is a legitimate way we have of rooting out scum.

That's a straw man and you know it. While a counter-claim in the early game when Mafia happen to duplicate a role is a good way of swinging the numbers, that's a very dfferent situation to the 'desperate counter-claim' of a player who was just found guilty as says... 'no, but, wait, cos I'm the cop actually, believe me instead.'

Furthermore, YOU pushed for the lynch on Karyn, and then immediately moved onto Shin when Karyn was willing to sacrifice herself.  I simply unvoted and wanted to talk it out.

And a non sequitur. Of course town back lynches against town - because we don't know they are town. When Karyn gave me reason to think she was town, I unvoted. At that point of the game there was nothing better to go on than a list and Shin was next on it.

But thanks for pointing out an indictment of you I'd missed.

I did move on to Shin, but then the next day, after my night action resulted in a no-kill, I changed to the obvious scum. you.

Yet more evidence for Casper.

Your activity in the game, which you declare is NOT a usual scum tactic, is actually not a good indicator.  Some scum are all over the game, others lay low.

Fair point. But what is more common is that scum lay low (so they arent called out early and have to make an RC that might duplicate a town RC) and then they get more prominent either when they have established a good alibi, or when it gets desperate.

So while I've been consistently active, you have been typical mafia (at first I thought you'd been cleverer than that and posted consistently (but I think that was the baader meinhof phenomenon - I'd just got to know you in the last mafia so your name stood out to me) but when I check back you hardly posted at all until I accused you.

Your refuting didn't go so well - you might want to try making your own list after all.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 05, 2009, 11:20:04 AM
This is just more of the same stuff you're coming up with.  You accuse me of strawmen, but overlook the main points I've posted over and over, throughout this Current Day?  Then, to top it off, you declare your points are all better, and move along.  Luckily, you're not the Arbiter of that.  I'm simply laying out my arguments, and asking Shin to review them.

In fact, Casper is a good barometer, since he didn't share Shin's reticence, it's a means of her having an independent way to finally vote for you.

And, if this wasn't already obvious, I'm posting tons now because I HAVE A POINT -- I caught you in a lie/error/mistake/whatever, and it's now caused you to try and get me lynched.  I suspect if you were targeting Casper, he'd have this back and forth instead.  Remember -- when we didn't have a night kill the first night, you didn't say a peep.  I had protected that night, but still couldn't make myself a target.  But now that you think you're in the endgame (and when I led the day off voting for you) you have picked the only choice you have.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 05, 2009, 12:46:33 PM
By the way, to Casper and Shin -- one thing I do agree with Alex on wholeheartedly is that if we have no lynch, we're basically at a stalemate. 

Alex wrote a (very) long post about this earlier in the Current Day, but to boil it down, consider:

Whether I am Mafia, or Alex is Mafia, the Mafia can simply choose not to do a kill tonight, which will keep the confusion about whether Alex's "Jailkeeper" claim or my Doc claim in play.

If I am Mafia, and I kill Alex, then I would be lynched the next day, because you and Casper would see that Alex was telling the truth.

If Alex is Mafia, and kills me, then HE would be lynched the next day, because you and Casper would see that --I-- am telling the truth.

That just leaves either Shin or Casper as targets.  And then we're looking at a 50/50 chance of Doc Protection, depending on which of you I guess to protect (if you believe me), or his "Jailkeeper" action (if you believe him).  Oh, and if I guess correctly, we're back at the competing claims again.  So either way, that gets us another night of no kills, and puts us back here.  Ugh. 

So what I'm saying is (since Shin hasn't logged in since yesterday) is that Shin should give a good look at the points and arguments, and just make a decision, because we really will be in "Groundhog Day" land if we don't. 

Not as "boiled down" a version of Alex's longer post as I'd hoped.  But suffice it to say, either lynch me, or lynch him, but do make a choice Shin!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 05, 2009, 02:42:55 PM
or casper

ftfy
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Casper on March 05, 2009, 03:28:24 PM
Also this is a "Back to Basics" game (supposedly at least) A Back to Basics game with no Doc but with a Jailkeeper? ORLY?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 05, 2009, 04:42:53 PM
Yes really.

Good game guys. Well played TF, you're on a roll.

Sorry Shin, Casper, and the rest of the pirates. No one can say I didn't give it my best shot.

vote: alexbutterfield
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Day 10, 3 to lynch]
Post by: Anachronism on March 06, 2009, 03:25:38 AM
No one likes the Wiggles? :'(

(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/08/16/wiggle_narrowweb__300x307,0.jpg)

Lynched - Alexbutterfield - Captain Feathersword, Jailkeeper

Night the last~ Send in actions!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Night 10]
Post by: Anachronism on March 06, 2009, 10:45:49 AM
It was more or less a forgone conclusion.

DEAD - Casper, Long John Silver, VT

Except for this part.

DEAD - Tai Fung, Tiger Tanaka, Mafia Goon

Winner - Shin Hatsubai, Bartholomew Roberts (Black Bart), Vigilante
(Well, and the rest of the town, but you're all dead. :p)

Edit: I'll put all the roles and actions up tomorrow. But something I want to say: Save your outgoing PMs, people! Write it down in a notepad as well or something! It was unfortunate for the mafia that one of the final 3 was a vig, otherwise they would've won.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Casper on March 06, 2009, 11:06:34 AM
Mu-ha! Nicely done Shin.

Still... Jailkeeper? come on Anach this was supposed to be back to basics :P

good game
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Morvis13 on March 06, 2009, 11:08:32 AM
and 3 vigilante.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 06, 2009, 11:20:40 AM
No hard feelings all!  Just played my heart out, and kept trying to exploit anything I could for an advantage.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Anachronism on March 06, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
Mu-ha! Nicely done Shin.

Still... Jailkeeper? come on Anach this was supposed to be back to basics :P

good game
You obviously didn't read through Cops and Robbers. :D

The point was that there was a cost to being protected at night.  :)
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Anachronism on March 06, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Things I'll note now: the cops were hindered in that they weren't really cops but were something close to 'gunsmith', in that they either found 'a cutlass' or 'a Jolly Roger', or (in the case of the internet pirates) 'nothing'. Batman would've had 'a complete arsenal'.

@Morvis: Myra was naive, which meant in reality there were only 2 vigilantes (who were entirely too unbloodthirsty for me, lol).

Maybe the next B2B game should be 'Wild West' where everyone is a one-shot vig.  :D
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: 1Pirate on March 06, 2009, 11:40:28 AM
Mu-ha! Nicely done Shin.

Still... Jailkeeper? come on Anach this was supposed to be back to basics :P

We had one in the first B2B game.  I was kind of wondering why Shin didn't point that out until I realized she was probably a second vig.

(and anyway you should've realized Tai Fung wasn't french when he didn't surrender after two days :D)

It turned out okay, but you really should've stuck to your guns Alex and not voted for yourself at the end(it doesn't happen a whole--but I think in situations like this the mod first suspends roleblocking and night protections and then the mafia has to make a kill after X number of days or forfeit the game).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Neutral Milk on March 06, 2009, 11:43:33 AM
No hard feelings all!  Just played my heart out, and kept trying to exploit anything I could for an advantage.

I couldn't believe how well you had convinced casper, Tai. You did an excellent job at the end.

Damn close game.

If Tai had sent in a kill for Shin, what would have happened? Would Town have won anyway?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Anachronism on March 06, 2009, 11:45:50 AM
I just wouldn't have ended the day. :P

Or I'd have let them go through one night of deadlock, and if they failed to lynch the second day it would've been declared a draw.

@NM: Yep, but instead of Shin being the last one standing, the dubious honour would've went to Casper. (Of course, if Shin hadn't sent in an action, then if TF killed Shin it would've been a mafia win, or otherwise another draw).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 06, 2009, 11:59:37 AM
I never counted on 2 actual Vigs, so we were in tons of trouble no matter what.  I would have liked for Alex not to have thrown in the towel, because I really thought it would have been interesting to get a "clean" take from Shin about which was she was going to go (it's too late now to get her views as they would have been back then). 

I thought that if I could create enough doubt about Alex (which is why I never targeted him -- I had planned on pounding the Captain Feathersword angle for the endgame), then I might get 1 or 2 people to prevent a lynch, and leave me as a killing party.

Was I jailedkeeped BOTH nights Anachronism?  I targetted Shin the first night, and Casper the second.

I figured that once Captain Feathersword was revealed, there was no way Shin wouldn't target me, so even if I did pick her, that would just leave Casper, since it turns out she was a Vig.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Karyn on March 06, 2009, 12:01:18 PM
Excellent game.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on March 06, 2009, 12:34:03 PM
OH HELL YEAH!!!

SHIN HATSUBAI - VIGILANTE OF JUSTICE!!!

Taking 3 mafia out was good times ;D

I killed Neutral Milk because of the two Monkey Island claims, Sandwich because I thought I remembered Lee liking Ayn Rand, and when he turned out to be mafia I thought I would take a gamble, and Tai Fung because I remembered Cops and Robbers and I believed there would be a jail keeper in the game (and I beleieved alex was town).  The only casualty was Mr Ben, sorry I was testing your selfsave :(

Did Apharinde vig kill anyone?
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Mr Ben on March 06, 2009, 12:36:21 PM
That was you?!?!?!?
...
...
...
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Beleth on March 06, 2009, 02:54:05 PM
One of the unintended consequences of this game is that I figured out how to make my job as Administrator a lot easier.  :)

One of the most common issues I've had to deal with is when people have e-mail notification turned on for when they receive a PM.  This e-mail looks like it comes from an SGU admin account, and used to have the text of the PM in it.

What people did a lot was to reply to the e-mail instead of to the PM.  This means that the original sender doesn't get the e-mail, and that I (since I monitor the admin account) do.

This happened once in this game.  A Ninja sent a PM discussing ninja-y things to another Ninja who had e-mail notification turned on, and this second Ninja replied to the e-mail, which meant that, boom, all of the sudden I knew who two of the Ninjas were.

After some discussion between the Ninjas, Anachronism, and myself, we decided that the best way out of this was to kill me off that night instead of whoever the Ninjas were otherwise going to kill.  That way, as little harm as possible was done.

In the meantime, I found the setting which makes e-mail notification not include the text of the PM, which means that no one ever again will respond the wrong way to a PM.  This is a win-win situation.  \o/
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Tai Fung on March 06, 2009, 03:09:34 PM
I wonder who we DID decide to kill that night instead?  I did all of the kills in the game for our side except one night, when we sent Neutral.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 06, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Okay - anach can you please tell me my night actions for the last couple nights.

I honestly did forget.  :-[

I wonder what would have happened if Shin came out and said she was a vig...

We could have waited for a no lynch, and then I could have role blocked TF while Shin killed him.

On the other hand, had I been scum and TF was lying, TF would have saved Shin, while Shin killed me.

Easy - you shoulda just come out and said it!  :D

good work though. and nice game TF, I couldnt see the game every swinging in my favour, and after making the threat to vote for myself (which was a mistake) there was no going back, not voting for myself would have looked too scummy.

I want to know what happened on night 8 - because I dont think I targeted TF twice. I must have though.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Shin Hatsubai on March 06, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
I wanted to lay as low as possible regarding me as the vig.  Apaharinde died and was reveled to be a vig, so I was hoping the mafia would think there was only one.

Also, if you blocked Tai Fung you would have also protected him (the jailkeeper role) so my kill would not have gone through, so that plan would not have worked.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 06, 2009, 03:33:43 PM
haha, yeah I'm an idiot, of course it wouldn't have.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Apharinde on March 06, 2009, 04:06:45 PM
OH HELL YEAH!!!

SHIN HATSUBAI - VIGILANTE OF JUSTICE!!!

Taking 3 mafia out was good times ;D

I killed Neutral Milk because of the two Monkey Island claims, Sandwich because I thought I remembered Lee liking Ayn Rand, and when he turned out to be mafia I thought I would take a gamble, and Tai Fung because I remembered Cops and Robbers and I believed there would be a jail keeper in the game (and I beleieved alex was town).  The only casualty was Mr Ben, sorry I was testing your selfsave :(

Did Apharinde vig kill anyone?

I thought that I was the best vigilante ever when I killed Batman! Guessing that Batman was double killed! Well, both of us killing of batman makes you just 2 ½ mafiakiller (and I'm ½ mafiakiller, yeah!)

When you killed Sandwich I realised that I wasn't the only vig in town. I started to wonder if I also was a naive vig.

I thought I was clever when I kept my mouth about me being a vig but not killing of some of the dead ninjas. The remaining mafia goon must have felt some relief seeing the vig dead, believing he was safe. I'm feeling like a martyr!

And last, I'm to afraid to make a fool of myself killing of innocent people, not a good characteristic among vigilantes!
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: 1Pirate on March 06, 2009, 04:21:12 PM
I figured there was a second vig when you didn't claim one during your lynch.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Anachronism on March 06, 2009, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: Night actions
n1
wastrel blocks sketchy
BM investigates lobster
kikyo investigates lobster
zookster jails 1pirate
apharinde no action
Tai Fung to kill Black_Magic

n2
wastrel blocks Zookster/alex
kikyo investigates tai fung
zookster jails -
apharinde no action
Tai Fung to kill kikyo
shin hatsubai – no action
myra inaction

n3
Apharinde no action
alex protects morvis
wastrel blocks ben
shin no action
lee kills beleth
myra still inactive

n4
alex protects casper
wastrel blocks ben
tai fung to kill lobster
shin no action

n5
alex protects casper
shin kill NM
aph kill NM
tai to kill fffanatic06
wastrel blocks ben

n6
alex protects casper
aph no kill
shin kills sandwich
wastral blocks ben
tai kills 1pirate

n7
alex protects no one
aph no kill
shin kills mr ben (Coin flip – heads to kill)
tai fung kills morvis

n8
alex protects tai fung
shin no kill
tai fung kills shin [blocked]

n9
alex protects tai fung
shin no kill
tai fung kills casper [blocked]

n9
tai fung kills casper
shin kills tai fung
Roles on front page in 3rd post.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: alexbutterfield on March 06, 2009, 10:26:52 PM
Man I got lucky in this game I was really off the ball.


Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Apharinde on March 07, 2009, 02:52:43 AM
Good game by the way, but long! Three months! Must be some kind of record...
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Black_Magic on March 07, 2009, 11:12:58 AM
Febo has that record, google greek mythology ;)


Every time I'm a cop I die basically the first night.  So if you're scum, and you're looking for somebody random to kill, it's probably me you want to kill, because if you kill me, I'm a cop, but if you don't kill me, I'm probably some useless VT :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: 1Pirate on March 07, 2009, 12:45:46 PM
Actually, Free Market mafia went from June to November, which I think made it the longest completed mafia.  Febo's mafia is only longer if you consider it to be still in play.
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Black_Magic on March 07, 2009, 01:12:36 PM
Actually, Free Market mafia went from June to November, which I think made it the longest completed mafia.  Febo's mafia is only longer if you consider it to be still in play.
For some reason I remember GM being a lot longer than it was O_o

FM doesn't count because 90% of that was sketchy being inactive! :P
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: 1Pirate on March 07, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
Actually, Free Market mafia went from June to November, which I think made it the longest completed mafia.  Febo's mafia is only longer if you consider it to be still in play.
For some reason I remember GM being a lot longer than it was O_o

FM doesn't count because 90% of that was sketchy being inactive! :P

65% of greek mythology was Febo being inactive(which incidentally, is why he ultimately suspended the game).
Title: Re: Ninja Vs Pirates! B2B II [Shin and town wins!]
Post by: Black_Magic on March 08, 2009, 03:05:09 AM
Hey, I had memories, quit squashing them with your 'facts'! :'(

I guess it's because I was doing stuff when Febo was inactive (GO HADES!) while I was bored to tears when Sketchy went inactive.