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Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: mindme on March 17, 2007, 08:54:09 PM
My girlfriend and I were walking back to my place and some kinda dirty middle aged man was dogging along next to us. He said something to my GF and then kind of veered away. I asked my GF what he said. She said "he asked me if you were my sex partner." Gosh, class act. After more than two years, this was actually our first instance of a Korean male deciding to pipe up about his displeasure that one of "their" women dares date a non Korean. Now, I have no doubt that back in Canada, some Canadian whitey will eventually make some untoward remark to my Korean GF as well ("Is she your sex slave?"). Men are dicks everywhere. The words might change slightly.

But maybe in Canada a male would at least say it to my face, not bravely intimidate a woman.

Anyway, my GF was upset and we watched him walk into his crappy lower middle class cement apartment building. I pointed out to my GF that he's not only going into his apartment, he's going into his coffin. He's going to live and die in a drab box with cement walls. He's never going to live in a house, have a yard, pick fruit off the trees in his yard, eat vegetables from his own garden, live near a lake or ocean.  The only joy in his grubby life is his single day off on Sunday (many Koreans work 6 days a week) and his 4 days vacation (many companies only give Koreans 4 days off a year).

I bid him a rather cheerful goodbye as he trudged into his coffin.

Anyway, a bit closer to my apartment some Korean church was out in force. We were waiting at a light and some guy wanted me to read his English pamphlet. Usually I repeat and repeat very polite "oh no thank you, kam sa ham ni da" to these people until my light changes. But after the loser incident, I wasn't in the mood for some guy getting up in my business after I've made it clear, politely, that I simply wasn't interested.

Now I kind of looked at his brochure and saw "Elohim" on it. When I see a Christian church using that term I usually take that as a tip off these people have really swallowed some major kool aid.

Now in Korean, if someone asks for something and you don't have it, you say literally "it does not exist". "The car does not exist." Or "Cha op sa yo." "Op sa yo" being "does not exist" Right, so I decided after 3 polite rebuffs I decided to tell him to fuck off in so many words.

At first I thought about saying "devil" over and over. "Ang ma! Ang ma!" But then I pointed to my head (I don't know how to say "I think") and just kept repeating "god op sa yo" "Han nim op sa yo". He looked for a moment like "okay, I really have to save this deluded fellow" but the light changed and we moved on.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: Bartmon on March 17, 2007, 10:39:39 PM
Mindme,

I don't know where in Canada you are from, but I live in the most right-wing backward part of the country (Alberta), but it's still like Rio De Janero compared to the American Midwest.

Anyhow, if you were here and you ran into some real dickwad rednecks they'd be more apt to call your girlfriend a 'mail order wife'.  It's repulsive either way, but that's my take on it. I've never heard someone use the N-word or outwardly say anything about an inter-racial relationship other than what I've said above.

Bart  :wink:  :shock:
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: gweathers on March 18, 2007, 01:27:39 AM
just be happy u dont live here we got some nuts about inter-racial relations. And i got this crazy church that keeps telling me the world is going to end and im going to hell. They keep leaving these pamphlets at my door.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: IRON MAN on March 18, 2007, 02:31:34 AM
Holy crap!  Where are you?  1950?
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: hector on March 18, 2007, 08:22:52 AM
I cant read the OP without hearing the whiney voice of Holden Caulfield.

Bah, them Koreans are phonys!
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: mindme on March 18, 2007, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: "Bartmon"
Mindme,

I don't know where in Canada you are from, but I live in the most right-wing backward part of the country (Alberta), but it's still like Rio De Janero compared to the American Midwest.

Anyhow, if you were here and you ran into some real dickwad rednecks they'd be more apt to call your girlfriend a 'mail order wife'.  It's repulsive either way, but that's my take on it. I've never heard someone use the N-word or outwardly say anything about an inter-racial relationship other than what I've said above.

Bart  :wink:  :shock:


I'm from Toronto, please don't hate me. :)
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: Bartmon on March 18, 2007, 09:51:56 AM
For those of you that don't know much about Canada (Which is likely everyone because Canada's not that exciting), Toronto is the equivalent of New York City in Canada. People that live there feel it's the center of the universe. That's why Mindme said that about not hating him.

FYI

Bart
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: Apeiron on March 18, 2007, 10:19:03 AM
You guys should move to the Netherlands :)
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: mindme on March 18, 2007, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: "Bartmon"
For those of you that don't know much about Canada (Which is likely everyone because Canada's not that exciting), Toronto is the equivalent of New York City in Canada. People that live there feel it's the center of the universe. That's why Mindme said that about not hating him.

FYI

Bart


The only difference between Torontonians and New Yorkers (besides all the dead obvious stuff), Torontonians don't refer to Toronto as simply "the city".
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: heliocentricra on March 18, 2007, 09:03:08 PM
"Elohim" is "God" in Hebrew. Is that some sort of Korean cult thing?
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: gweathers on March 18, 2007, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: "IRON MAN"
Holy crap!  Where are you?  1950?


no, just the south.

edit: i suppose you might not understand since you are from Australia. but the south is known a lot of the time for its racist hicks and crazy religious people. Part of the bible belt. They are talking about segregating schools again here, if that helps to understand what i mean.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: stickman on March 18, 2007, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: "gweathers"
the south is known a lot of the time for its racist hicks and crazy religious people.


You mean... like these fun loving guys?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/user1111111/kkk-ferris-wheel.jpg)
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: LaPalida on March 18, 2007, 11:08:19 PM
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that mindme. I am currently reading the book "Infidel" by Ayaan Hirsi Ali and in Somalia it's about 100 times worse. The woman would probably be abducted, raped, and/or killed. They think they own every woman because of the way their society functions. If a woman so much as shows some skin (how much and where depends on where you from) shes considered a prostitute. And if a woman is seen having a relationship (sexual or otherwise) with an unbeliever (non-muslim or non-Somali) then it's like she becomes public property where guys on the street can grab her breasts and touch her and humiliate her. She becomes a total outcast, no family accepts her because she dishonored her male family line.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: gweathers on March 19, 2007, 01:11:27 AM
Quote from: "stickman"
Quote from: "gweathers"
the south is known a lot of the time for its racist hicks and crazy religious people.


You mean... like these fun loving guys?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/user1111111/kkk-ferris-wheel.jpg)


yep they still have their meetings out in the country. They are mixed in with the Neo-nazi camp though. My city is not so bad, but others are pretty bad.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: mindme on March 19, 2007, 01:17:49 AM
Quote from: "heliocentricra"
"Elohim" is "God" in Hebrew. Is that some sort of Korean cult thing?


Usually most Christian churches adopt the "yahweh" term for god. It always seems to me the really weird ones use the rarer elohim term.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: Cecil on March 19, 2007, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: "Bartmon"


I don't know where in Canada you are from, but I live in the most right-wing backward part of the country (Alberta), but it's still like Rio De Janero compared to the American Midwest.



I'm from the American Midwest... What does that even mean?
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: mindme on March 19, 2007, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: "Cecil"
Quote from: "Bartmon"


I don't know where in Canada you are from, but I live in the most right-wing backward part of the country (Alberta), but it's still like Rio De Janero compared to the American Midwest.



I'm from the American Midwest... What does that even mean?


Canada oddly seems to divide itself up into Eastern Canada and Western Canada. No one is sure what part Manitoba is in and no one really gives a rat's ass.

People in Detroit would say they're from the Midwest. Canadians right across the border would say they're from Eastern Canada.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: LaPalida on March 19, 2007, 10:40:22 AM
Even though British Columbia is in the West ... I consider Vancouver in the East  :P
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: blackclawdog on March 19, 2007, 03:06:17 PM
Quote from: "mindme"
Quote from: "Cecil"
Quote from: "Bartmon"


I don't know where in Canada you are from, but I live in the most right-wing backward part of the country (Alberta), but it's still like Rio De Janero compared to the American Midwest.



I'm from the American Midwest... What does that even mean?


Canada oddly seems to divide itself up into Eastern Canada and Western Canada. No one is sure what part Manitoba is in and no one really gives a rat's ass.

People in Detroit would say they're from the Midwest. Canadians right across the border would say they're from Eastern Canada.



I don't think the question meant: "what does the term 'American Midwest' mean?"  I think that the purpose of the question was to ask why the previous poster essentially called the Midwest an intolerant cultural backwater, when compared to the supposed shining example of Alberta, Canada.

Having been to both the American Midwest and Alberta Canada, I can say with confidence that the only real differences between the two are:

1.   That weird money they use in Alberta.
2.   Metric Imperialism in Canada.
3.   The experssion "eh."
4.   Alberta has mountains.

Otherwise, they are exactly the same.  Canadians have no cause to feel any moral superiority.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: mindme on March 19, 2007, 11:21:58 PM
Quote from: "blackclawdog"
Quote from: "mindme"
Quote from: "Cecil"
Quote from: "Bartmon"


I don't know where in Canada you are from, but I live in the most right-wing backward part of the country (Alberta), but it's still like Rio De Janero compared to the American Midwest.



I'm from the American Midwest... What does that even mean?


Canada oddly seems to divide itself up into Eastern Canada and Western Canada. No one is sure what part Manitoba is in and no one really gives a rat's ass.

People in Detroit would say they're from the Midwest. Canadians right across the border would say they're from Eastern Canada.



I don't think the question meant: "what does the term 'American Midwest' mean?"


Right. My comment was just an aside.
Title: Trying to tell a Korean you don't believe in god
Post by: LaPalida on March 20, 2007, 12:26:50 AM
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Otherwise, they are exactly the same. Canadians have no cause to feel any moral superiority.


What you mean is, Albertan Canadians have no cause to feel any moral superiority. I personally think that the only Canadian province that is truly Canadian is probably Quebec, practically everything else is just a clone of America. This is directly because Quebec is French. I am talking out of my ass here since I hardly have been anywhere save Ontario, Quebec, and Nova Scotia.