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(http://i.imgur.com/aDDixHF.gif)
Hyaah! Hyaah! Hyaah!
Electronic music video whose practical effects showcase the action of sound-waves on a variety of materials:
CYMATICS: Science Vs. Music - Nigel Stanford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oItpVa9fs#ws)
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(http://i.imgur.com/MmEzCZv.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/5Wx6nZP.gif)
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(http://i.imgur.com/MmEzCZv.jpg)
(http://wpbusinesstips.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mailchimp.jpg)
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True-color image of earth from the Japanese weather satellite Himawari-8:
(https://i.imgur.com/o1e9atI.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/MmEzCZv.jpg)
I am 98% mailkimp. :(
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(http://i.imgur.com/MmEzCZv.jpg)
I am 98% mailkimp. :(
I swore I would not buy into any forced meme, but the Mail Kimp cannot be stopped. Mail Kimp laughs at puny skeptics and their attempts at science. You WISH you could sort your mailbox with 98% of Mail Kimp's efficiency, don't you?
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(http://i.imgur.com/z7xFAk5.png)
!!!
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(http://i.imgur.com/zSDd8QU.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/zjJ5k.jpg)
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Schlieren Optics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLp_rSBzteI#ws)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlieren_photography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlieren_photography)
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Quake on an oscilloscope (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMli33ornEU#ws)
http://www.lofibucket.com/articles/oscilloscope_quake.html (http://www.lofibucket.com/articles/oscilloscope_quake.html)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJxJRAxdFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJxJRAxdFU#ws)
I do not know how to post a video but this is really cool.
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If you drop the 's' it'll auto-embed the naked link.
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If you drop the 's' it'll auto-embed the naked link.
Thank you.
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(http://imgur.com/fq8eKUu)
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(http://i.imgur.com/fq8eKUu.jpg)
Nice!
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Vela Supernova Remnant:
(http://i.imgur.com/0xfziBxl.jpg)
Full Description & Full Size: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150101.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150101.html)
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http://youtu.be/Lt4P6ctf06Q (http://youtu.be/Lt4P6ctf06Q)
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New lens:
(http://i.imgur.com/lseIWPF.jpg)
Ooh.
Page with full sizes (http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2015/01/image/c/warn/)
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(http://i.imgur.com/HZH8UqP.png)
I like the 80% who support labels on foods which contain DNA.
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(http://i.imgur.com/8WLbluq.jpg)
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Can we get sources for some of these? I'd really like to know more about them sometimes.
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(http://i.imgur.com/8WLbluq.jpg)
My god that's cool.
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(http://i.imgur.com/pb19t45.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/8q2WH.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/rJXcrPP.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/rJXcrPP.png)
And here I thought that was a liberal flavor of stupid.
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(http://i.imgur.com/rJXcrPP.png)
And here I thought that was a liberal flavor of stupid.
I think the question of "are vaccines wise?" cuts pretty evenly across ideological lines, and tends to cluster in predominantly-liberal areas. The question of "should vaccines be mandatory?" is a somewhat different question, unless you believe that everything wise should be mandatory. I ascribe the gap in the answer to that question to the current popularity of anti-regulatory impulses.
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It is not that vaccines should be mandatory because vaccines are wise. It is that vaccines should be mandatory because mandatory vaccines are wise.
I take your point, though.
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Holy false dilemmas, Batman. I personally don't think *everything* wise should be mandatory, but vaccines sure as hell should be, or at the very least people who choose not to vaccinate their children for non-health related reasons ought to be forced to live with the consequences, such as doctors having the right to refuse service to them or being unable to place themselves or their children in public institutions such as schools.
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Maybe make them live on a special island.
Not to waste a tropical island, though. One of those cold, silty, shitty islands of the northern coasts.
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Holy false dilemmas, Batman.
What's the false dilemma? I only said that it's not the same question unless you believe everything wise should be mandatory.
I personally think mandatory generally safe vaccines for dangerous diseases are justifiable, but obviously it depends on the degree of danger. For a disease that kills or cripples 1 in 100? No question. 1 in 1000? I think so. 1 in 100,000? Starts to become a closer call.
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Buuuuuuuuuuuulllshiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I just pointed out to you my own viewpoint, which offers a third POV that your false dilemma neglected, literally in the same exact post you quoted part of.
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Buuuuuuuuuuuulllshiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I just pointed out to you my own viewpoint, which offers a third POV that your false dilemma neglected, literally in the same exact post you quoted part of.
Just so we're clear, here are the two "poles" I posited:
1. You do believe everything wise should be mandatory.
2. You do not believe everything wise should be mandatory.
How is this a false dilemma? This is elementary logic. P and ~P cannot both be true.
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No, it really didn't. Your poles were:
1. Everything wise should be mandatory.
2. I loev ayn rand soooooooooooooo much
Unfortunately for this dilemma, there are also a great deal of people who do in fact think that some things (such as circumcision) should not be mandatory and other things (such as vaccinations) should be, and that in the particular case of vaccinations it is something that is not only both wide and mandatory but a circumstance wherein the greatest level of wisdom is in fact in the mandatory. You imply that people who think that folks who believe "vaccination is wise" as well as "mandatory vaccination is wise" can also only believe "a stitch in time saves nine is wise, therefore pre-emptive hemming should be mandatory". It is a ridiculous position to take, which is why somebody named a fallacy after it.
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You imply that people who think that folks who believe "vaccination is wise" as well as "mandatory vaccination is wise" can also only believe "a stitch in time saves nine is wise, therefore pre-emptive hemming should be mandatory". It is a ridiculous position to take, which is why somebody named a fallacy after it.
I don't believe I did any such thing. I only said that only in the case that you believe all wise things should be mandatory is there not even a question of whether any given thing should be mandatory or not, once you determine whether it is wise. In that case, the question "should it be mandatory" is redundant, because it is always the same as the question "is it wise?" In all other cases, the question does exist and could be answered by any number of means, none of which I took any position on.
Perhaps I am just not being clear.
(http://i.imgur.com/7q3Phyk.png)
In this case, once you have answered the question, "is it wise?" you have already answered the question "should it be mandatory?" No further inquiry is required to answer that question, thus we may say that they are the same question.
(http://i.imgur.com/GWQsKlj.png)
In this case, answering the question "is it wise?" is probative but not redundant of the question "should it be mandatory?" Additional arguments are required to make the case that any specific wise thing should or should not be mandatory.
I hope that helps clarify the issue.
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(http://i.imgur.com/BZQgGq0.jpg)
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Nice graphs, H. Ross Perwrong, but it doesn't change things. Even in a deductive sense this argument is wrong because it ignores the other variables and in fact begins with a faulty premise. In fact, nobody is saying that "all things that are wise ought to be mandatory"; what people are saying is that the group of people who think that vaccines are wise but should not be mandatory (or made essentially mandatory in the sense of giving people "the choice" to cut themselves off from many aspects of the welfare state while still being forced to pay into it) is so small as to be statistically insignificant. I could put together a graph about this I guess, but it would be stupid and would waste everybody's time, so instead here is a jpeg of a kitten that I found:
(http://sereedmedia.com/srmwp/wp-content/uploads/kitten.jpg)
The point here is not this bullshit that all things that are wise ought to be mandatory, it's that *in the specific instance of vaccines*, what makes them wise also makes them a thing that ought to be mandatory. I would have assumed going into this thread that you already knew these things but since I appear to be speaking to someone with the logical capacity of a 4th grader I will spell this out: in order for vaccines to work properly - that means making the big bad disease they try to prevent go away - a factor that is known as herd immunity must be invoked. Not everybody in society is able to take vaccines. For example, it may shock you to know that even Obamacare does not and will not require infants fresh out of the womb to be vaccinated. In fact, a baby's first vaccinations generally come well after birth. Birth is when a mommy makes a baby come out of her privates. I will not post an image f this because this is called porn. There are other people who also cannot take vaccines, for example people who are very old who were not around when the vaccine first came out (many of them also have a limited lifespan), and other people, cancer patients for example, who have their immune systems compromised. An immune system - nah, that's going to take too long to explain; you're going to need to wikipedia that shit. What herd immunity is, is a state in which so many people are vaccinated against a particular disease, that disease can't find a foothold in the human population and as a result even the very young, the very old, and the immuno-compromised don't contract it.
So thanks to herd immunity, there are essentially 3 different groups of people on this subject:
1. People who think that vaccines are both wise and ought to be mandatory.
2. People who think that vaccines are unwise and of course shouldn't be mandatory because like autism and stuff.
3. People who have the brains of a bag of Doritos.
Doritos are a kind of corn chip sold in American convenience stores which do not generally contain brain matter. Now, you may argue that there is in fact a fourth group of people, people who think that herd immunity is a sham like 9/11. However, you will quickly see that these people are in fact a subset of group #3. Similarly, people who think that vaccines are a smart thing to do because of herd immunity but who don't think that you should actually, like, force people to do stuff they don't want to do might seem like their own group as well, but further reflection should also reveal that these people are holding an opinion that's in direct contradiction to itself and who therefore actually don't really think vaccinations are wise (so they're in group 2) or haven't put the 2.6 seconds of thought required to realize this contradiction (so they're in group 3). There are also those people who think that viruses should rule and humans should drool. I would argue that this group is also not statistically significant but am willing to be convinced by a good study or helpful picture of concentric circles.
In closing, here is a picture of a puppy that thinks vaccines are wise BECAUSE they cause autism, which technically places him into group 1.
(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/4/005/05b/0ad/17ef3d8.jpg)
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(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag156/rimbaud3000/FB_IMG_1423252729975_zpsz7g9iynx.jpg)
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I found Slick's first graph convincing. The second graph... not so much.
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Doggist. ::)
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Came across some nice graphics:
(http://i.imgur.com/dAOthcy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aqS7cK0.png)
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One Art:
(http://i.imgur.com/U5OC9ur.jpg)
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Nanoinjector action shots:
(http://i.imgur.com/xYhP37O.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/carePfv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rncL5Al.jpg)
:science:
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That's fucking cool.
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Curiosity drill site reveals gray-blue 'dirt' beneath Mars' oxidized surface:
(http://i.imgur.com/D8Yqcgs.jpg)
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That's incredible..
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I've been watching this in the corner of my monitor and am about half-way through. It's pretty neat:
The future of lighting is here: OLED (Dietmar Thomas) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxLdSaNPTP8#)
The future of lighting will be very cool!
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Curiosity drill site reveals gray-blue 'dirt' beneath Mars' oxidized surface:
Is that solid rock? If it was dirt, it would just get blown around to mix with the topsoil, right?
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The future of lighting will be very cool!
Very much looking forward to getting some of these: http://weburbanist.com/2015/02/17/new-artificial-lighting-tricks-human-brain-into-seeing-sunlight/ (http://weburbanist.com/2015/02/17/new-artificial-lighting-tricks-human-brain-into-seeing-sunlight/)
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The future of lighting will be very cool!
Very much looking forward to getting some of these: http://weburbanist.com/2015/02/17/new-artificial-lighting-tricks-human-brain-into-seeing-sunlight/ (http://weburbanist.com/2015/02/17/new-artificial-lighting-tricks-human-brain-into-seeing-sunlight/)
Cool! Need these in my basement, where we hang out.
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Push It to The Limit Petman, Atlas Boston Dynamics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJckchby55E#ws)
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Imgur Gallery: Journey into a CPU (http://imgur.com/a/ynPeX)
It's basically money shot after money shot.
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Curiosity drill site reveals gray-blue 'dirt' beneath Mars' oxidized surface:
That's the gooey center!
Yknow, I never quite made the connection until now that "oxidized" in reference to mars surface (and BTW, have scientists always known that it was just the surface?) meant there had to have been oxygen there at some point (Of course, not necessarily air...) But I was just reading now that where the oxygen came from to make mars red is still a mystery... water, quartz crystals, some other slow breaking-down process...?
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(http://i.imgur.com/8WmbJaK.jpg)
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From Ok Cupid's blog:
(http://i.imgur.com/GJeuZkg.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/jXVYqcf.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/yNWWhiy.jpg)
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Apparatus for bovine methane emission capture:
(http://i.imgur.com/ug5WBy4.jpg)
Is Science going too far?
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I say it's not going too far enough!
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it would be awesome if they made a bag big enough to life the cow off the ground.
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it would be awesome if they made a bag big enough to life the cow off the ground.
Dammit HighPockets! I just saw this thread and was typing "JETPAX FTW!!!" when I read your post. Way to scoop. Gr.
;)
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The vastness of our universe - or - Why I can't take religion seriously
(Spoilered for length of image)
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/eRE1Oa9.jpg)
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SpaceX has released art deco Mars travel posters!
(http://i.imgur.com/dFwl8XC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6WTK1rE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QaPgCzE.jpg)
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Picture of the sun's magnetic fields:
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8f8de54a488acd07e07f139b6c7e7297/tumblr_nodq4t8Uc91rnq3cto8_500.gif)
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Girls with toys (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/05/girls_with_toys_on_twitter_feminist_hashtag_shares_images_of_women_doing.html)
More women with toys in STEM fields than you can shake a slide rule at.
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(http://i.imgur.com/yjMTQSz.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/NzWGcjn.jpg)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaJSexH8LMY
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This just came across the twitters--the original NYT story of the indictment of Scopes in 1925. I don't know if the tweet will embed here, but in case not, here's the text:
John T. Scopes is Indicted in Tennessee for Teaching Evolution, this day in 1925. nyti.ms/1doQcLq pic.twitter.com/uOOjocT2tC
https://twitter.com/NYTArchives/status/602868021472944128
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Image too big. Just click the damn link. :P
http://i.imgur.com/wdSVxmd.png
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(https://rnhwholesale.ras.bustores.com/media/catalog/product/s/o/som_ladies_blue_tee.png)
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This is maybe the most subversive skeptical quote ever, by maybe the smartest skeptic, ever.
(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-reason-is-and-ought-only-to-be-the-slave-of-the-passions-and-can-never-pretend-to-any-other-david-hume-89382.jpg)
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(http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/ggmain/strips/ggmain20081205b.jpg)
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(http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Isn+t+it+obvious+everyone+knows+that+thunderstorms+were+invented+and+_ac72ad1a6b2823cfd65f70f75c19efb4.jpg)
Benjamin Franklin acquires electricity.
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Modern chipped credit card:
(http://i.imgur.com/R1ezQc8.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/B5PRarL.jpg)
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NASA locates headquarters of Illuminati on Ceres:
(http://i.imgur.com/q1SMqJH.gif)
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(http://i.imgur.com/8acpm99.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/B5PRarL.jpg)
We definitely won in the looks dept. ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoWi10YVmfE
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(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/8528/DyGjW7.jpg)
i think its because of fishing.
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I love this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fh_liyhIH8
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(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/8528/DyGjW7.jpg)
i think its because of fishing.
Or because men blaspheme more frequently?
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Spoiler
(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/8528/DyGjW7.jpg)
i think its because of fishing.
Or because men blaspheme more frequently?
I thought golf immediately, but golf courses are only 3% of lightning deaths. Soccer beats it out! Also, yes: fishing camping boating.
http://io9.com/new-statistics-on-lightning-deaths-in-the-u-s-reveal-w-560760736
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;D
(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/5921/vhQIUz.jpg)
ive seen one with kelvin too - dead and dead
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hVXlYU91Zds/U8K89I3RPjI/AAAAAAAANrM/WEyKzOb1yXs/s1600/Utah_state_pays_for_Bigfoot_vs_Nazis.jpg)
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;D
(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/5921/vhQIUz.jpg)
One of the biggest problems with Celsius is that they used 100 degrees for boiling instead of 10 degrees... or maybe 1000 would've been OK. Also, unit of gram is too small for the base unit - a gram should've been the mass of a liter of water, not a mililiter.
We should re-do this.
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Spoiler
;D
(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/5921/vhQIUz.jpg)
One of the biggest problems with Celsius is that they used 100 degrees for boiling instead of 10 degrees... or maybe 1000 would've been OK. Also, unit of gram is too small for the base unit - a gram should've been the mass of a liter of water, not a mililiter.
We should re-do this.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/tI107W9.jpg)
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Pluto:
(http://i.imgur.com/71dgASR.jpg)
Suitably excited scientists:
(http://i.imgur.com/bHjr0kY.jpg)
Btw, the preceding post is from Bolivia's Salar de Uyuni, a slightly watery salt flat:
(http://i.imgur.com/NmJx2W6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dFr8npX.jpg)
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Gentlemen, Pluto's backside:
(http://i.imgur.com/SrhpvBN.jpg)
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Pluto:
(http://i.imgur.com/71dgASR.jpg)
Thank you for showing us this image before it is suppressed. It is fairly obvious that the polygon and complex figures can only be man made and are Masonic symbols.
All joking aside, I didn't know if I would ever know what Pluto really looked like in my lifetime. This is amazing and I am so excited to finally see the lost planet.
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From NASA's Cassini probe (Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/9QgnT)):
(http://i.imgur.com/IA3PVYnl.jpg)
Pictured: Saturn
(http://i.imgur.com/19rAtCbl.jpg)
Pictured: Prometheus perturbing Saturn's rings
(http://i.imgur.com/MzikJ6H.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dbpy0yU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/l3AGTnu.jpg)
Pictured: Enceladus
And more (in album above)!
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Gentlemen, Pluto (again):
(http://i.imgur.com/z8reN4v.png)
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Gentlemen, Pluto (again):
(http://i.imgur.com/z8reN4v.png)
But where are the Mi-Go?
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Gentlemen, Pluto (again):
(http://i.imgur.com/z8reN4v.png)
Looks like no place you want to raise your kids.
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Gentlemen, Pluto (again):
(http://i.imgur.com/z8reN4v.png)
Looks like no place you want to raise your kids.
In fact it's cold as hell.
I feel so privileged to be alive at the right space-time coordinates to witness this.
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(http://i.imgur.com/PC0Iixb.jpg)
:(
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Gentlemen, Pluto's backside:
IT DOOOOO!
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"First image from the Deep Space Climate Observatory Satellite (DSCOVR) 1 million miles from Earth at Lagrange point 1"
(http://i.imgur.com/LP1Y0RC.jpg)
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Can someone explain the difference between a Lagrange point and a Trojan point? I always get hung up on that.
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Can someone explain the difference between a Lagrange point and a Trojan point? I always get hung up on that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_trojan (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_trojan)
A Lagrange point is a region of gravitational equilibrium. Trojans are asteroids that orbit the sun in a similar orbit to the Earth because they are in or near the Lagrange point. Or something. I think. Read the Wikipedia article. It knows more than I do.
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Gentlemen, Pluto w/true color data:
(http://i.imgur.com/tOtCIaX.jpg)
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Gentlemen, Pluto w/true color data:
(http://i.imgur.com/tOtCIaX.jpg)
Ok ok ok. How the heck did Disney get a team to Pluto to spray-paint half a planet in the shape of the dog?
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Gentlemen, Pluto w/true color data:
(http://i.imgur.com/tOtCIaX.jpg)
I think this is false color. I saw a talk showing this image as 'false color'
Will look later when I can.
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I need to stop assuming anything's correctly labeled on the internet.
True color:
Gentlemen, Pluto (again):
(http://i.imgur.com/z8reN4v.png)
False color:
Gentlemen, Pluto w/true color data:
(http://i.imgur.com/tOtCIaX.jpg)
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A couple of my first pics with my new camera from the backyard.
The Southern Cross:
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/Damlowet/IMG_5197_zpsz60iwh95.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Damlowet/media/IMG_5197_zpsz60iwh95.jpg.html)
The Galactic center un modded:
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/Damlowet/IMG_5198_zpsfjvgppgr.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Damlowet/media/IMG_5198_zpsfjvgppgr.jpg.html)
The Galactic center tweaked:
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/Damlowet/IMG_5198.JPGgoodcore_zps2q0xezdp.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Damlowet/media/IMG_5198.JPGgoodcore_zps2q0xezdp.jpg.html)
More Galactic center un modded:
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/Damlowet/IMG_5199_zpsthjs2ukq.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Damlowet/media/IMG_5199_zpsthjs2ukq.jpg.html)
Damo
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Wonderful photos!
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(http://cdn.sheldoncomics.com/strips/main/150804_1438721062.png)
My lobes burst with the desire to make science to you.
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This is a cool thought.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHdtWz9CEAA4gQG.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/CsEM4n2.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/vfFFbll.jpg)
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(http://www.italian-renaissance-art.com/images/Raphael-School-of-Athens.jpg)
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Right. My art education fails me. What am I looking at here, Anders?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_School_of_Athens
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One of my favorites.
A who's who of secular classicism. A celebration of intellect in a world run by mystics.
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Right. My art education fails me. What am I looking at here, Anders?
Guns N' Roses album cover, of course. ;D
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More on this painting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smd-q44ysoM
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(http://i.imgur.com/mvprjqN.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/i1zrqV0.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/CxbrBQe.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/CxbrBQe.png)
Love that picture.
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Close to topic.
A couple of pics of the Guinness World Record attempt at most people star gazing simultaneously. 21/08/2015
At the ANU oval.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/Damlowet/IMG_5228_zpswc17ogpp.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Damlowet/media/IMG_5228_zpswc17ogpp.jpg.html)
Daughter during the 'attempt'.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/Damlowet/IMG_5240_zps1k1af1h0.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Damlowet/media/IMG_5240_zps1k1af1h0.jpg.html)
Daughter with the GWR bloke and certificate.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/Damlowet/IMG_5245_zps0jvolxsj.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Damlowet/media/IMG_5245_zps0jvolxsj.jpg.html).
Damo
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I was considering going to that, but I didn't, because reasons.
My brother was there.
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(http://i.imgur.com/r26CycP.gif)
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CBS news spot about a vertical farm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Xcuz03jog
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from twitter
(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/5416/ZNFXcr.jpg)
???
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from twitter
(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/5416/ZNFXcr.jpg)
???
The aerodynamics of a cow?
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Why not? It looks like they were probably using the cow model to test out their software for mapping airflow. Notice how the cow has its nose directly into the oncoming wind. Real cows don't do that - they tend to turn their tails to the wind.
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We are working on cow drones.
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Why not? It looks like they were probably using the cow model to test out their software for mapping airflow. Notice how the cow has its nose directly into the oncoming wind. Real cows don't do that - they tend to turn their tails to the wind.
Are you blowing smoke up my cow's ass? :laugh:
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(http://i.imgur.com/B5PRarL.jpg)
I get that humans aren't as good at hanging around in trees as apes are, but did they really have to just impale her throat on that branch like that?
Can someone explain the difference between a Lagrange point and a Trojan point? I always get hung up on that.
The two Trojan points are among the five Lagrange points.
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Can someone explain the difference between a Lagrange point and a Trojan point? I always get hung up on that.
The two Trojan points are among the five Lagrange points.
As I understand it, Trojans are not really the points, but the objects that occupy the two L4 and L5 Lagrange points (leading or lagging a planet by 60 degrees). So whereas we have 5 Lagrange points, we can have thousands of objects occupying those points. I think that's how it goes.
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In astronomy, a trojan is a minor planet or moon that shares an orbit with a planet or larger moon, but does not collide with it because it orbits near one of the two trojan points—the Lagrangian points of stability, L4 and L5—which lie approximately 60° ahead of and behind the larger body, respectively. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_%28astronomy%29)
Trojans are the objects, and they sit near the Trojan points, which is what Redamare was asking about.
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In astronomy, a trojan is a minor planet or moon that shares an orbit with a planet or larger moon, but does not collide with it because it orbits near one of the two trojan points—the Lagrangian points of stability, L4 and L5—which lie approximately 60° ahead of and behind the larger body, respectively. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_%28astronomy%29)
Trojans are the objects, and they sit near the Trojan points, which is what Redamare was asking about.
Ahhh...thanks. You're right.
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Guys, guys, guys.
Trojans are condoms.
La Grange is a song by ZZ Top
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Good job, anti-vaxxers!
(http://i.imgur.com/BGgIyEkl.jpg)
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Good job, anti-vaxxers!
(http://i.imgur.com/BGgIyEkl.jpg)
Oh come the fuck on!
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lolz
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My alt med/kpop parody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m28DJWlixFo
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(http://i.imgur.com/AReqgfP.gif)
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(https://40.media.tumblr.com/ed92237fdb5c70386ed9a1cb37e8cad5/tumblr_o0rf3r5qEx1r8x2ybo1_540.jpg)
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The Moon in True-Color™ courtesy of the Chinese:
(http://i.imgur.com/9dfK0pK.jpg)
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Backside of the moon courtesy of NASA:
(http://i.imgur.com/hHNIP9p.jpg)
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Backside of the moon
You could have captioned this, "Mooned by the Moon", but you didn't. For that I will never forgive you.
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Continent for scale:
(http://i.imgur.com/5gh9l7O.jpg)
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Well no wonder it was so windy today.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWqhUANNFXw
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That Chinese moon pic is clearly a fake! Where are the stars in the night sky? ;)
Seriously though, the rock looks like granite.
Damo
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700 fps .gif of eye (https://gfycat.com/PlayfulEachIsopod).
Spoiler: The iris jiggles. (http://i.imgur.com/ogqKbu5.gif)
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(http://i.imgur.com/XYMgRMk.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/XYMgRMk.jpg)
That just makes me sad.
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Gross parents. What a sad childhood.
When I volunteered at the local Natural History Museum I encountered some people who didn't "believe" in evolution, but no kid ever had a problem with dinosaurs.
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What school gets color-copy worksheets??
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Earth from the ISS: https://gfycat.com/WelldocumentedWindyAlbacoretuna
This is the most POV-like POV I've seen.
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This is freaking me out a little:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXVspNUeiWw
Imagine what DARPA, etc. must have? How soon until video won't cut it as evidence?
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Yeah, that's pretty creepy.
It's not perfect, but it's impressive.
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(http://i.imgur.com/FGPcio0.jpg)
(^^^EM Drive)
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The clouds were just light enough for me to grab a photo of the transit of Mercury this afternoon :) (the dot at 9 o'clock)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/26880066126_e8e6e00451_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GXinaY)Transit of Mercury (https://flic.kr/p/GXinaY) by Bimble (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bimbling_along/), on Flickr
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(http://i.imgur.com/rYxJMew.gif)
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Dr Ed Hawkins, a climate scientist at the Department of Meteorology at the University of Reading who created the visualisation, told MailOnline: 'I wanted to try to visualise the global changes we have seen in different ways to learn about how we might improve our communication.
'The pace of change is immediately obvious, especially over the past few decades, and the relationship between current global temperatures and the internationally discussed limits are also clear.'
Within the animation it is also possible to see how global events such as the El Nino phenomenon alter temperatures around the world.
For example, there is a small amount of cooling between the 1880s and 1910 due to volcanic eruptions before warming again between 1910 and the 1940s.
Dr Hawkins said this warming was due to a small increase in solar output and natural variability and recovery from the volcanic eruptions.
Temperatures also remain largely flat between the 1950s and the 1970s, he explained in his blog, because aerosols released into the atmosphere mask the impact of greenhouse gases.
But from 1980 there is strong warming with temperatures pushed particularly high in 1998 and 2016 due to strong El Nino events.
...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3587124/Climate-change-summed-one-animation-Gif-shows-world-warmed-past-76-years.html
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"Here's your handbasket."
#TheFarSide
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj1G9gqhkYA
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(https://i.redd.it/j26s8sm207xx.jpg)
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Been trying to vet that graph before I post it on FB... ^
The NSIDC is neither confirming nor denying nor caveat-ing yet...
http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/17/13667630/global-sea-ice-concentration-graph-science-twitter
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSaLDI4bE7M
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Scientist describing a possible positive-feedback loop in carbon emissions/warming via ↑warming to ↑soil emissions to ↑↑warming to ↑↑soil emissions and so on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrKOpPJIbXA
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Smattering of fun stats about [see title]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANUoAdXfA60
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(http://i.imgur.com/BUHzLqO.jpg)
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More than half of 2016 constituted historic daily lows in Arctic sea-ice extent:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Czz3L1sUQAQfb0f.jpg)
Edit:
I've read that:- Sea-ice mitigates solar-warming of oceans
- Sea-ice is important to convective currents which warm Europe
- These rely on the presence of old (read: thick) ice, as opposed to yearly fluctuations in new (read: thin) ice
- Arctic-warming increases (potentially colossal) methane emissions from thawing permafrost
At this point, a 'Climate_Change.jpg' thread implicitly about panic and live-blogging the end of the world would probably be sustainable
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reminder for me to post something later.
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What is that a picture of?
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I am guessing that it is God Emperor of Dune.
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Not a preventable disease at all. It is a Hydrothermal worm.
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Molten salt in water.
(https://giant.gfycat.com/RegularUnequaledDungenesscrab.gif)
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Molten salt in water.
(https://giant.gfycat.com/RegularUnequaledDungenesscrab.gif)
Is that from the quick and massive release of steam or a chemical reaction due to the sodium?
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It's just thermal.
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It's just thermal.
What's causing the delay there? It sits in the water for about a second, with nothing happening, and suddenly WHOOMPH!
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It's just thermal.
What's causing the delay there? It sits in the water for about a second, with nothing happening, and suddenly WHOOMPH!
that's 5000 frames per second. "Time is an illusion. Lunch time doubly so."
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It's just thermal.
What's causing the delay there? It sits in the water for about a second, with nothing happening, and suddenly WHOOMPH!
that's 5000 frames per second. "Time is an illusion. Lunch time doubly so."
Found the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRWQUUUCF0
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It's just thermal.
What's causing the delay there? It sits in the water for about a second, with nothing happening, and suddenly WHOOMPH!
that's 5000 frames per second. "Time is an illusion. Lunch time doubly so."
We can see when the video slows down. That still doesn't explain why it falls into the water a ways before exploding.
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Probably the Leidenfrost Effect. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidenfrost_effect)
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So pouring molten [anything else] into water would have the same explosive result?
No, I think there's a chemical reaction going on.
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So pouring molten [anything else] into water would have the same explosive result?
No, I think there's a chemical reaction going on.
Watch the original video I posted above (http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,43247.msg9470889.html#msg9470889); he compares the reaction of sodium to this explosion, and they're very different. He concludes that it's a physical reaction, with water entering an indentation in the salt, becoming superheated, expanding and driving the salt bubble outwards, getting it into contact with more water, and so on.
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So pouring molten [anything else] into water would have the same explosive result?
False. This ignores issues like capacitance, conductivity, and surface area. You can walk on hot coals without injury, but don't try it on a hibachi.
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The sodium wouldn't react with the water because it's chemically bonded to the chlorine. Even heating it to molten won't demolecularise the salt.
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The sodium wouldn't react with the water because it's chemically bonded to the chlorine. Even heating it to molten won't demolecularise the salt.
It's not a molecular compound though, but an ionic one... What happens to the ionic bonds when you melt an ionic compound? I assume they must be broken for the lattice structure to give out.
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Yeah, salts are ionically bonded compounds subject to dissociation in solution/water.
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Yes, salt is ionic, but it doesn't have the reaction you get with water and pure sodium. Sodium ions in solution with complimentary chlorine ions don't react that way just because you apply heat before you dissolve them.
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To be fair, I know little more than high school level chemistry.
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Yeah, I doubt that's enough heat to make a difference.
The difference is that sodium reacts out like:
Na + H2O -> Na+ + OH- + H2
Whereas the sodium in sodium chloride is already an Na+ so the water molecules just get in there and separate the two and they all benignly float around.
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Yeah, that.
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it would be awesome if they made a bag big enough to life the cow off the ground.
I would immediately invest in car wash company stock.
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I'm skeptical.
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Huh, [H2]-infused water. I'll have to see if there's any good studies on this later.
HFACTOR infuses pure hydrogen into water via patent-pending natural methods, unlike other hydrogen products which are manufactured utilizing magnesium and chemical processes.
https://h-factor.com/faq/
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"That's no space station, It's a small moon."
(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1701/PIA20515MimasMountain1020.jpg)
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap170111.html
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Wait, what's extra hydrogen suppose to do for you?
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Wait, what's extra hydrogen suppose to do for you?
Very good question
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Wait, what's extra hydrogen suppose to do for you?
Very good question
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Bind to the harmful oxidizers in your body to create more hydrating water.
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It's just thermal.
What's causing the delay there? It sits in the water for about a second, with nothing happening, and suddenly WHOOMPH!
that's 5000 frames per second. "Time is an illusion. Lunch time doubly so."
Found the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRWQUUUCF0
Compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEC64Bqeajs
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Compare what? It's the same video.
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Compare what? It's the same video.
Oops, sorry about that. I went back and fixed it.
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Wait, what's extra hydrogen suppose to do for you?
Hydrate you of course. Duh. It's like, in the name, and stuff.
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1701/ab_moon_from_geo_orbit_med_res_jan_15_2017.jpg)
What a nice image!
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/"> Moon over Planet Earth </a>
Explanation: Launched last November 19 from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, the satellite now known as GOES-16 can now observe planet Earth from a geostationary orbit 22,300 miles above the equator. Its Advanced Baseline Imager captured this contrasting view of Earth and a gibbous Moon on January 15. The stark and airless Moon is not really the focus of GOES-16, though. Capable of providing a high resolution full disk image of Earth every 15 minutes in 16 spectral channels, the new generation satellite's instrumentation is geared to provide sharper, more detailed views of Earth's dynamic weather systems and enable more accurate weather forecasting. Like previous GOES weather satellites, GOES-16 will use the moon over our fair planet as a calibration target.
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https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603502/two-infants-treated-with-universal-immune-cells-have-their-cancer-vanish/ (https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603502/two-infants-treated-with-universal-immune-cells-have-their-cancer-vanish/)
Fuck yeah.
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(http://i.imgur.com/CX57yWF.jpg)
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Well... some crystals really do have some energy in it... they are called.. Piezoeletric. Apart from that.... yeah, they dont do shit (except enrich the exoteric pseudoscience shop owners). lol
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Yer usin' them wrong. Note the shape. It's obvious where they go. ;D
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(http://i.imgur.com/CX57yWF.jpg)
Too be fair they do make lovely jewelry. I like shiny rocks! ;)
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1701/EclipseClouds_MODISanderson_1415.jpg)
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/"> Where to see the American Eclipse </a>
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Max time of eclipse, Paducah, Kentucky. Book now, the motel will fill up quickly.
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1701/EclipseClouds_MODISanderson_1415.jpg)
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/"> Where to see the American Eclipse </a>
politics
(http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2015/03/hungry-history-cooking-for-the-commander-in-chief-20th-century-white-house-chefs-iStock_000004638435Medium-E.jpeg)
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She is great!
https://weather.com/news/news/breitbart-misleads-americans-climate-change?cm_ven=FB_SCI_JK_120616_4 (https://weather.com/news/news/breitbart-misleads-americans-climate-change?cm_ven=FB_SCI_JK_120616_4)
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1701/EclipseClouds_MODISanderson_1415.jpg)
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/"> Where to see the American Eclipse </a>
politics
(http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2015/03/hungry-history-cooking-for-the-commander-in-chief-20th-century-white-house-chefs-iStock_000004638435Medium-E.jpeg)
My wife's uncle is renting a cabin in the zone, we plan on spending the weekend with them for it.
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(https://i.imgur.com/tQoqKWS.jpg)
SEEMS LEGIT.
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I was just thinking this morning..."Huh, I wonder how they make non-organic tea."
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Put lead flakes in water? I mean, it'll make your complexion nice and pale, and after a while you won't really care about how it tastes...
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Kilauea spewing lava into the ocean.
https://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/multimedia/uploads/multimediaFile-1623.mp4
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I was just thinking this morning..."Huh, I wonder how they make non-organic tea."
They use pianos.
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Sexy AF:
(http://hbz.h-cdn.co/assets/17/05/980x490/landscape-1485895883-hbz-bill-buzz-index.jpg)
Bill Nye and Buzz Aldrin on NY Fashion Week runway
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https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv
ETFix gifv to gif
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https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv
I wish I could think of some biting comment to post...
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https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv
I wish I could think of some biting comment to post...
You'll be long in the tooth before anything comes to you.
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https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv
I wish I could think of some biting comment to post...
You'll be long in the tooth before anything comes to you.
Fangs for the sharky reply.
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https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv
I wish I could think of some biting comment to post...
You'll be long in the tooth before anything comes to you.
Fangs for the sharky reply.
I'm trying to find the wisdom in these posts.
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(https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv)
https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv
I wish I could think of some biting comment to post...
You'll be long in the tooth before anything comes to you.
Fangs for the sharky reply.
I'm trying to find the wisdom in these posts.
You should hire a retainer to work that out for you.
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(https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv)
https://i.imgur.com/o1490ps.gifv
I wish I could think of some biting comment to post...
You'll be long in the tooth before anything comes to you.
Fangs for the sharky reply.
I'm trying to find the wisdom in these posts.
You should hire a retainer to work that out for you.
Brace yourselves
(http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201411_1951_afdec_sm.jpg)
Chew on that.
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This thread is practically transcend dental.
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This thread is practically transcend dental.
Can I join the pun parade or should I bite my tongue?
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This thread is practically transcend dental.
Can I join the pun parade or should I bite my tongue?
Keep a stiff upper lip and champ on!
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1701/EclipseClouds_MODISanderson_1415.jpg)
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/"> Where to see the American Eclipse </a>
politics
(http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2015/03/hungry-history-cooking-for-the-commander-in-chief-20th-century-white-house-chefs-iStock_000004638435Medium-E.jpeg)
My wife's uncle is renting a cabin in the zone, we plan on spending the weekend with them for it.
We just booked our VRBO.
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"Brace yourselves, eclipse coming."
And then he dies.
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(https://cdn.theconversation.com/files/156104/width754/image-20170208-17349-193kp0t.jpg)
Every movement that has rejected a scientific consensus, whether it be on evolution, climate change or the link between smoking and cancer, exhibits the same five characteristics of science denial (concisely summarized by the acronym FLICC). These are fake experts, logical fallacies, impossible expectations, cherry picking and conspiracy theories. When someone wants to cast doubt on a scientific finding, FLICC is an integral part of the misinformation toolbox.
What do gorilla suits and blowfish fallacies have to do with climate change?
https://skepticalscience.com/gorilla-suits-and-blowfish-fallacies.html
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Every movement that has rejected a scientific consensus, whether it be on evolution, climate change or the link between smoking and cancer, exhibits the same five characteristics of science denial (concisely summarized by the acronym FLICC). These are fake experts, logical fallacies, impossible expectations, cherry picking and conspiracy theories. When someone wants to cast doubt on a scientific finding, FLICC is an integral part of the misinformation toolbox.
What do gorilla suits and blowfish fallacies have to do with climate change?
https://skepticalscience.com/gorilla-suits-and-blowfish-fallacies.html
That was a very good article, thanks.
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(http://i.imgur.com/UqrwHFH.jpg)
Not all that sciency, but this panel runs a fist sized pump that pumps (in good sun) 20L/min 400m horizontally and 12m vertically. A mains powered sutup was going to cost $11,000 and about $50/mo... this was $1,000 and $0/month.
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(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/223/603/a12.jpg)
He done been skeptimathized.
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It's suspected that the President watches Infowars and talks to Alex Jones.
This is Alex Jones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Km5UVbP2Fs
"How did the pedophiles get an AI?"
- Joe Rogan, to Alex Jones
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That's...not how the uncertainty principle works
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That's...not how the uncertainty principle works
Traffic Cop: So, Mr. Heisenberg, do you know how fast you were driving?
Werner: I know EXACTLY how fast I was going, but I have NO IDEA where I am!
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That's...not how the uncertainty principle works
Yeah, it properly reads "Am I going to get laid tonight?"
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It's suspected that the President watches Infowars and talks to Alex Jones.
This is Alex Jones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Km5UVbP2Fs
"How did the pedophiles get an AI?"
- Joe Rogan, to Alex Jones
(https://pic60.picturetrail.com/VOL1697/8702320/23451851/408476393.jpg)
I've seen some of Alex Jones before but.... damn.
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That's...not how the uncertainty principle works
Yeah, it properly reads "Am I going to get laid tonight?"
...and the answers "Yes I am going to get laid tonight" and "No, I won't get laid tonight" are both true.
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That's Schroedinger's Cat, not the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. The HUP states that, essentially, it is impossible to know, for very small objects (like subatomic particle levels of smallness), exactly where the object at the time of detection *and* its speed. There are ways you can figure out either one individually but not both at the same time.
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That's Schroedinger's Cat, not the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. The HUP states that, essentially, it is impossible to know, for very small objects (like subatomic particle levels of smallness), exactly where the object at the time of detection *and* its speed. There are ways you can figure out either one individually but not both at the same time.
That's Schroedinger's Cat and the Uncertainty Principle.
If you try to see whether or not you will get laid tonight, that will have an effect on whether or not you will get laid tonight.
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That's Schroedinger's Cat, not the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. The HUP states that, essentially, it is impossible to know, for very small objects (like subatomic particle levels of smallness), exactly where the object at the time of detection *and* its speed. There are ways you can figure out either one individually but not both at the same time.
That's Schroedinger's Cat and the Uncertainty Principle.
If you try to see whether or not you will get laid tonight, that will have an effect on whether or not you will get laid tonight.
There are other paired properties that are collectively indeterminate. From the Complementarity (physics) page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementarity_(physics)) of Wikipedia:
- Position and momentum
- Energy and duration
- Spin on different axes
- Wave and particle
- Value of a field and its change (at a certain position)
- Entanglement and coherence
I would personally add
but I might be a bitter sod.
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There is all the observer effect, where actually observing something changes its nature.
Sometimes it seems there's more uncertainty than certainty.
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There is all the observer effect, where actually observing something changes its nature.
Sometimes it seems there's more uncertainty than certainty.
I don't know about that.
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There is also the observer effect, where actually observing something changes its nature.
Sometimes it seems there's more uncertainty than certainty.
I don't know about that.
Well, I'm not certain.
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There is all the observer effect, where actually observing something changes its nature.
The idea that a particle has an exact momentum and position and we just can't pin down one without messing up the other is a common misconception.
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There is all the observer effect, where actually observing something changes its nature.
The idea that a particle has an exact momentum and position and we just can't pin down one without messing up the other is a common misconception.
I think the idea is that we can know a sub-atomic particle's position or it's momentum, but if we know one we can't know the other. You think that's a misconception?
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Estockly is correct. That is not a misconception, but is almost certainly the fact of the matter.
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I think it is more subtle than that. There is a certain amount of uncertainty inherant between position and momentum. A threshold beyond which you can not drop, represented by the plahnk constant. The more sure you become about one of these variables, the more of that uncertainty gets forced onto the other variable.
Conservation of uncertainty. ;D
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There is all the observer effect, where actually observing something changes its nature.
The idea that a particle has an exact momentum and position and we just can't pin down one without messing up the other is a common misconception.
I think the idea is that we can know a sub-atomic particle's position or it's momentum, but if we know one we can't know the other. You think that's a misconception?
The misconception is that a particle has an exact momentum and position. Which is why I said that.
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Imagine you want to use a laser beam to clock the speed of a car.
On the scale of a car, there is no problem identifying both it's speed and it's position. This is because the effect of the photons on the car is trivial.
Now, imagine that the only way to measure the speed of a car was to slam an identical car into it at speed and measure the properties of that car's rebound.
This is the problem we run into when we try to measure tiny particles like photons and electrons. The smallest thing we have to measure it with is another photon. The impact of the particles changes things.
Despite what Jeff Goldblum might tell you, Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle had no applicability to dinosaurs on Isla Sorna.
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What position do you think you're arguing against?
I never said that actively measuring subatomic things doesn't have an effect on them.
I just pointed out that there's a common misconception that this is the only reason we can't pin down position and momentum at the same time. The misconception is that a particle has an exact momentum and position. I keep repeating that because I don't know how to say it more simply.
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The point of view from which you call that a "misconception" is just a small set out of many different interpretations of QM. We don't know that there isn't a definite position for the particle; some theorists just want to insist upon it.
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The uncertainty principle is still not the same as the observer effect, even, I'm pretty sure, for theories that include hidden variables.
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Oh, that's true, but in Lost World he specifically refers to Heisenberg.
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I mean, sure, whatever, I was never talking about Crichton or about crashing cars into each other. My initial response was to estockly's claim that it was the observer effect.
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Well, you're taking one side of a controversy (which is fair enough) and then calling the other side a "misconception" (which is no settled matter).
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Despite what Jeff Goldblum might tell you, Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle had no applicability to dinosaurs on Isla Sorna.
His is position was similar to "if we observe the Andromeda Galaxy we have affected the Andromeda Galaxy." Stupid on the face of it.
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Well, you're taking one side of a controversy (which is fair enough) and then calling the other side a "misconception" (which is no settled matter).
Didn't you just say "that's true" when I said it wasn't the observer effect, and now when I repeated that you're saying it's not settled?
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What position do you think you're arguing against?
I never said that actively measuring subatomic things doesn't have an effect on them.
I just pointed out that there's a common misconception that this is the only reason we can't pin down position and momentum at the same time. The misconception is that a particle has an exact momentum and position. I keep repeating that because I don't know how to say it more simply.
A particle can have a precisely calculated momentum. A particle can have a precisely calculated position. A particle cannot have both at the same time, is my understanding of this particular issue.
The observer effect relates to the mechanisms used to observe subatomic particles as well. Our methods for observing them affect their behavior. Not distant galaxies.
The observer effect has been rightly or wrongly applied in other areas, like social science, where simply measuring public opinion by taking a poll has an effect on the results.
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A skeptical love story:
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120415.gif)
(I know it's super old. I recently decided to do a bit of an archive binge because it's been years since I made the effort to keep up to date with each new comic.)
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(https://i.imgur.com/klKShkp.gif)
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And some people still think there's no God!
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(https://i.imgur.com/klKShkp.gif)
I saw the opening bit of that and was just waiting for a starship to fly through... ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX9FU8bmxQs
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(http://www.livememe.com/udxaoqp.jpg)
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Air Force's X-37B Space Plane
(https://img.purch.com/w/640/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zcGFjZS5jb20vaW1hZ2VzL2kvMDAwLzA2My82OTcvaTAyL25hc2EteC0zN2Itb3R2LmpwZz8xNDg5NzE4MTQ1)
Air Force's Mysterious X-37B Space Plane Nears Orbital Record
http://www.space.com/36101-x-37b-military-space-plane-nears-record.html
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That website is a terrible spam trap.
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That website is a terrible spam trap.
Maybe for internet n00bs without noscript and an adblocker it is. >}|:o)
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And some people still think there's no God!
I know you're joking, but it's precisely images like that that reinforce my non-belief. The incongruity of the tininess and insignificance of organisms in an impossibly thin organic layer on a small rocky planet in this endless sea of nothingness teeming with galaxies filled with billions of stars with the idea that these organisms are somehow significant is just absurd. We're the bacteria on a speck of dust in a cathedral and we think the music is playing for us.
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And some people still think there's no God!
I know you're joking, but it's precisely images like that that reinforce my non-belief. The incongruity of the tininess and insignificance of organisms in an impossibly thin organic layer on a small rocky planet in this endless sea of nothingness teeming with galaxies filled with billions of stars with the idea that these organisms are somehow significant is just absurd. We're the bacteria on a speck of dust in a cathedral and we think the music is playing for us.
Well, not to equate them to bacteria, but I have in the past on occasion sung for my guppies.
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(http://i.imgur.com/CyGgLlF.jpg)
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(http://globalwarming-factorfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/spratti-gw-toon1.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/5IV0Po9.jpg)
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/JhT143MvWoFAu0xhpikhxw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://globalfinance.zenfs.com/en_us/Finance/US_AFTP_SILICONALLEY_H_LIVE/We_just_spotted_our_favorite-feccac426bc9c7f0caf139e5eecf1101)
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On the importance of fact checking:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9DxXWvXoAA0Ble.jpg)
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Cognitive_Bias_Codex_-_180%2B_biases%2C_designed_by_John_Manoogian_III_%28jm3%29.jpg/1500px-Cognitive_Bias_Codex_-_180%2B_biases%2C_designed_by_John_Manoogian_III_%28jm3%29.jpg)
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Science in America - Neil deGrasse Tyson - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqTOEospfo
I liked this.
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Hah!
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We ain't have'n no bad effect on the planet!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xTk9ZPSV1TLrKjONO0/giphy.gif)
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That place must have either really bad tires or really bad roads.
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That place must have either really bad tires or really bad roads.
Or neither. They were collected to be recycled. Then lightning hit the pile and it ignited. (Assuming it's the tire conflagration I'm familiar with.) Those industrial-strength rubber mats that are used to soften the floor a bit for workers are made out of old tires, and there are other uses as well.
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To be fair, that image alone doesn't prove climate change, or really anything other than tyres, when burned, produce black smoke. It could be argued either that the smoke is not harmful, or that it dissipates into the atmosphere, or something like that. Then you have to go and find some actual data.
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To be fair, that image alone doesn't prove climate change, or really anything other than tyres, when burned, produce black smoke. It could be argued either that the smoke is not harmful, or that it dissipates into the atmosphere, or something like that. Then you have to go and find some actual data.
Did I say it did?
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To be fair, that image alone doesn't prove climate change, or really anything other than tyres, when burned, produce black smoke. It could be argued either that the smoke is not harmful, or that it dissipates into the atmosphere, or something like that. Then you have to go and find some actual data.
Did I say it did?
Did I say that you said it did?
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To be fair, that image alone doesn't prove climate change, or really anything other than tyres, when burned, produce black smoke. It could be argued either that the smoke is not harmful, or that it dissipates into the atmosphere, or something like that. Then you have to go and find some actual data.
Did I say it did?
Did I say that you said it did?
"To be fair..." is a code for "You're wrong and here's why."
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To be fair, that image alone doesn't prove climate change, or really anything other than tyres, when burned, produce black smoke. It could be argued either that the smoke is not harmful, or that it dissipates into the atmosphere, or something like that. Then you have to go and find some actual data.
Did I say it did?
Did I say that you said it did?
"To be fair..." is a code for "You're wrong and here's why."
To be fair, the caption given with the image kind of did make the suggestion that a ton of black smoke produced by burning tyres was causally connected to global warming. Which it is.
What I'm arguing is that if you really wanted to deny global warming (which I don't), you could make a case for that particular image not being demonstrative of anything.
Now I'm wondering exactly what it is you are actually arguing with me about.
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♫Little brown jug, oh I love you!
Little brown jug, and mutate too!♫
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Thunderbolts and lightning, very, very frightening...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxJTQuWISbk
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Hot Take:
(http://i.imgur.com/log7TmE.png)
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Hot Take:
(http://i.imgur.com/log7TmE.png)
I think whoever made that chart should learn 1.00 or 2.00 things about sig figs.
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AeroFarms, a vertical farm in New Jersey:
(http://i.imgur.com/pmIkyAD.jpg)
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AeroFarms, a vertical farm in New Jersey:
(http://i.imgur.com/pmIkyAD.jpg)
Ah, "city farms" prototype?
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AeroFarms, a vertical farm in New Jersey:
(http://i.imgur.com/pmIkyAD.jpg)
Ah, "city farms" prototype?
I've seen similar facilities (but smaller) where they plant seeds, get them to sprout and grow then plant the sprouts in the ground to get a jump start on the growing season or to fit more crops into the same year.
Is that what this is?
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LED based growlights are changing the math of greenhousing. They last a long time, use little energy, generate little heat and can be made to emit on those specifics frequencies used for photosynthesis. The technology had made greenhousing economically viable in certain markets for certain kinds of produce and the technology is only getting cheaper.
This is amazing because greenhousing like this uses negligible amounts of water, nitrogen and real estate compared to fields. You're pretty much restricted to small plants which grow rapidly under unlimited-water conditions, though. So the theoretical future would be a food infrastructure peppered with spinach, herb, etc. facilities which improve food quality, decrease environmental impact, cut x% of food-miles and obviate x% of current cropland.
It's really cool stuff and it's just taking off now.
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It also occurs in three dimensions instead of two, which expands the space available for growing.
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And because it's (ideally) a closed-environment, you don't have agricultural run-off or pesticides.
You can also keep the temperature/humidity/air ideal year-round and tightly control day-night cycling.
They're basically super cool, high-tech, ultra efficient greenhouses.
And something I didn't know before doing a little reading on these is that greenhouses already have a significant presence in crop production. One of the best examples would be the UK's Thanet Earth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanet_Earth), which is a single greenhouse complex that accounts for ~10% of Britain's annual tomato, capsicum and cucumber production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWKAY9mI0xc
Edit:
More of Thanet Earth:
(http://i.imgur.com/Zc3z1WC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fWyU4iW.jpg)
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1912! Holy shit I thought the earliest predictions were in the 30s!
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1912! Holy shit I thought the earliest predictions were in the 30s!
Svante Arrhenius predicted climate change based on his experiments with CO2 as early as 1896.
EDIT: Actually, correction; apparently that's not quite true (http://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf):
Arrhenius’s paper is the first to quantify the contribution of carbon dioxide to the greenhouse effect (Sections I-IV) and to speculate about whether variations in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide have contributed to long-term variations in climate (Section V). Throughout this paper, Arrhenius refers to carbon dioxide as “carbonic acid” in accordance with the convention at the time he was writing.
Contrary to some misunderstandings, Arrhenius does not explicitly suggest in this paper that the burning of fossil fuels will cause global warming, though it is clear that he is aware that fossil fuels are a potentially significant source of carbon dioxide (page 270), and he does explicitly suggest this outcome in later work.
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Holy crow that took a long time to load.
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Holy crow that took a long time to load.
Odd, it went like clockwork for me.
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Elephant Foot | Human Foot:
(https://i.imgur.com/zlyjVev.jpg)
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Steve makes it onto the Cats in Space Quoting Scientists Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/spacekitties/) page!
(http://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19225110_1226842890771766_4445656818873400906_n.jpg?oh=f2ce2d9744d12831a5663adb85a6e2f9&oe=599D9FDD)
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Seals! Ha!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0_QKTwvRBQ
Astronomy Picture of the Day (https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/)
Explanation: Where will you be during the Eclipse across America? On August 21, the shadow of the Moon will cross the continental USA for the first time since 1979. The predicted path -- a certainty given modern astronomical knowledge -- is shown in the featured NASA video. Most people in the USA will be within a day's drive to the path of the total solar eclipse, while the rest of North America will see a partial solar eclipse. In the path of totality, given clear-enough skies, the Moon will block out the Sun making it eerily dark for as long as 2 minutes and 40 seconds. If interested in attending an eclipse party, please contact your local amateur astronomical society, science center, park, or university to see if one is already being planning. Some eclipse chasers have traveled to the end of the world to see a total eclipse of the Sun, and along the way have recorded many entertaining adventure stories.
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Carbondale, Illinois, Home of Southern Illinois U., is the best spot in the country to see the eclipse. NASA is visiting SIU for this event. And it's two hours from St. Louis, so you can also see a real live Flying Saucer (http://www.beerknurd.com/locations/st-louis-flying-saucer).
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Herd_Immunity.gifv (http://i.imgur.com/J7LANQ4.mp4)
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Herd_Immunity.gifv (http://i.imgur.com/J7LANQ4.mp4)
FIFY
(http://i.imgur.com/J7LANQ4.gif)
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Uranium Decay
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https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/7/3/15903154/asteroid-death-one-chart
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Just a meteor hitting the moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fe58ROYG0
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Just a meteor hitting the moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fe58ROYG0
Nope, alien spaceship.
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Our new GOES-16 satellite is providing great imagery of the hurricane that's about to hit Texas:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH_4szGW0AAZ3xS.jpg)
It's currently a tropical storm but is expected to hit category 3 before landfall:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIANg9ZXsAIQEYp.jpg)
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Best eclipse video I've seen yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D9j-8Vhyto
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Nah, just have him boarded.
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is his bark worse than his bite?? ;D
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That kind of comment really goes against the grain.
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I find its expression a bit wooden.
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I find its expression a bit wooden.
His bark is definitely worse than his bite.
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I don't know about that, but that expression gives me a knot in my stomach. It's like it's pining for something. Or maybe it just stems from it being board. If it leaves it like that, and just sticks with it, I'm not sure what I wood do. I feel like it should branch out a bit, emotionally speaking. Just one expression isn't enough; you need at least two or tree.
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Fuck this, I'm going to get totally sanded.
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He might be a little tough to lumber around in that condition.
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Fuck this, I'm going to get totally sanded.
I saw what you did there. A little plane for my taste.
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He might be a little tough to lumber around in that condition.
It's the only way to survive when one is starting a splinter group.
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Great now we have chemtrails spreading gay.
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Great now we have chemtrails spreading gay.
Clearly living under power lines gives you the gay.
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GAY POWER
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Was that originally posted by a flat Earther somewhere? Seems like the sort of thing one of them would make to "prove" that we're not moving as fast as "they" claim.
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I literally can't tell if it's promoting or lambasting flat earthers.
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Yeah, Poe's law applies for sure.
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It reminds me of the question that was asked on the SGU a few months ago (https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,48165.msg9478622.html#msg9478622).
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(https://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2017/10/171018104335_1_540x360.jpg)
<a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171018104335.htm">Potential human habitat located on the moon -- ScienceDaily</a>
Lava tubes exist on Earth, but their lunar counterparts are much larger. For a lava tube to be detectable by gravity data, it would need to extend several kilometers in length and at least one kilometer in height and width -- which means the lava tube near the Marius Hills is spacious enough to house one of the United States' largest cities, if the gravity results are correct.
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Holey Moon, Batman!
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(https://i.imgur.com/X7lE3cz.png)
From: Warning of 'ecological Armageddon' after dramatic plunge in insect numbers (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/18/warning-of-ecological-armageddon-after-dramatic-plunge-in-insect-numbers)
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(https://i.imgur.com/X7lE3cz.png)
From: Warning of 'ecological Armageddon' after dramatic plunge in insect numbers (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/18/warning-of-ecological-armageddon-after-dramatic-plunge-in-insect-numbers)
That is fucking terrifying. As if we didn't have enough to worry about.
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There will be Silent Springs in the future.
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If most of them are mosquitoes, good riddance.
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Dark Matter
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/">
Astronomy Picture of the Day</a>
(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1710/DarkMatter_KipacAmnh_960.jpg)
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"It's not a toomah!"
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Damnit I was just going to say that!
It does look like a tumor.
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We need to get Eleven to close that shit.
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Spoilers!!!!
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(https://safr.kingfeatures.com/idn/cnfeed/zone/js/content.php?file=aHR0cDovL3NhZnIua2luZ2ZlYXR1cmVzLmNvbS9CaXphcnJvLzIwMDYvMDYvQml6YXJyb19wLjIwMDYwNjI5XzYxNi5naWY=)
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Spoilers!!!!
I feel like if you've watched enough to understand it, it's not really a spoiler any more.
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Spoilers!!!!
I feel like if you've watched enough to understand it, it's not really a spoiler any more.
If you watch the previews it's not a spoiler.
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(https://i.imgur.com/KhuxMs8.jpg)
This isn't entirely accurate because Jupiter is made out of gas. A football field would be too heavy and would cause Jupiter to fall out of the sky.
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Spoilers!!!!
I feel like if you've watched enough to understand it, it's not really a spoiler any more.
If you watch the previews it's not a spoiler.
Oh, I meant it as a joke, to that exact point. I should have tagged it as such
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I figured it probably was, but I've seen people on FB legitimately complaining about equally vague things (or things that you could only tell is a spoiler if you've seen the thing it "spoils", and then their saying it's a spoiler is actually what spoils it for people who aren't caught up).
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We need to get it to Eleven to close that shit.
I kept reading that with the extra words my brain put in and thought he was talking about Spinal Tap, and I couldn't figure out what that had to do with anything... :-\
Now I understand what you're spoiling/not-spoiling...
Boy, am I dense.
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Who 'zat guy?
Or is it just a composite of an average youtuber? :)
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Who 'zat guy?
Or is it just a composite of an average youtuber? :)
And is a Mustang really a truck?
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"Slaughterbot" Autonomous Killer Drones - YouTube
This is very well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecClODh4zYk
Spoiler
I confess I didn't realize it was fake until a couple minutes in.
Perhaps the most nightmarish, dystopian film of 2017 didn't come from Hollywood. Autonomous weapons critics, led by a college professor, put together a horror show.
It's a seven-minute video, a collaboration between University of California-Berkeley professor Stuart Russell and the Future of Life Institute that shows a future in which palm-sized, autonomous drones use facial recognition technology and on-board explosives to commit untraceable massacres.
The film is the researchers' latest attempt to build support for a global ban on autonomous weapon systems, which kill without meaningful human control.
They released the video to coincide with meetings the United Nations' Convention on Conventional Weapons is holding this week in Geneva, Switzerland, to discuss autonomous weapons.
"We have an opportunity to prevent the future you just saw, but the window to act is closing fast," said Russell, an artificial intelligence professor, at the film's conclusion. "Allowing machines to choose to kill humans will be devastating to our security and freedom."
In the film, thousands of college students are killed in attacks at a dozen universities after drones swarm campuses. Some of the drones first attach to buildings, blowing holes in walls so other drones can enter and hunt down specific students. A similar scene is shown at the U.S. Capitol, where a select group of Senators were killed.
Such atrocities aren't possible today, but given the trajectory of tech's development, that will change in the future. The researchers warn that several powerful nations are moving toward autonomous weapons, and if one nation deploys such weapons, it may trigger a global arms race to keep up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nbeD1mwCdo
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Apparently the first thing that we evolved and lost was dance.
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Apparently the first thing that we evolved and lost was dance.
Early swingers. ;)
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Checkmate!
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You had me at "All Hover"
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Love 2000 Hogs Yea
Ambitious!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1SgmFa0r04
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That was interesting. It never occurred to me that the ppm would fluctuate over the year. Now, of course it is obvious. Do you know if they have this simulation in other map projections?
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I went to google that and the first result's super distracting: http://co2.digitalcartography.org/
You can click-drag to manipulate the focal point of the map projection!
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I went to google that and the first result's super distracting: http://co2.digitalcartography.org/
You can click-drag to manipulate the focal point of the map projection!
That's pretty cool. Why would there be so much at the north pole, and not at the south pole?
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I went to google that and the first result's super distracting: http://co2.digitalcartography.org/
You can click-drag to manipulate the focal point of the map projection!
That's pretty cool. Why would there be so much at the north pole, and not at the south pole?
People distribution?
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I went to google that and the first result's super distracting: http://co2.digitalcartography.org/
You can click-drag to manipulate the focal point of the map projection!
That's pretty cool. Why would there be so much at the north pole, and not at the south pole?
People distribution?
Yes, particularly the distribution of industrialized nations with high population densities, which in turn is mainly due to land mass distribution. Also there are large carbon sinks in the tropics, and air masses and weather systems like tropical storms (which have a mixing effect on well mixed GHGs) have a hard time crossing the equator due to the Coriolis effect (https://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/ASK/hurricanes.html) (and the air and ocean currents that result from that effect). And of course the southern ocean is a huge carbon sink (https://www.nature.com/news/southern-ocean-sucks-up-more-carbon-dioxide-than-was-thought-1.18347) as well.
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the scale is only what.. 377ppm to 395ppm?
its interesting to look at but does it actually mean anything?
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I don't know, either. Conveys distribution and variation. Identifying carbon sources and sinks? Making inferences about atmospheric behavior?
If we ever build heavy-duty carbon sequestration tech, we'd probably use data like that to target installation sites.
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But can anti-vaxxers read? ???
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the scale is only what.. 377ppm to 395ppm?
its interesting to look at but does it actually mean anything?
It shows how CO2 moves around the planet.
And I mean, a world surface map only goes from 6,356.8 to 6,384.4 km from the center, but that's still kind of an important range.
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But can anti-vaxxers read? ???
On first glance I thought it read, "This is Polio vaccine" I missed the period and misread "vaccinate" and thought it was a anti-vax sign.
So apparently skeptics can't read sometimes either.
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Time hug!
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Excellent video breaking down Homeopathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HslUzw35mc
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But can anti-vaxxers read? ???
Could have been my Mum.... no vaccine in 1952, though. She made sure I was when it was available. I wish Gardasil was around earlier... would have saved a lot of grief!
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https://satwcomic.com/could-have-been-matt-damon
(https://i.imgur.com/skKWf9f.png) (https://satwcomic.com/could-have-been-matt-damon)
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Started too large to get T.rump's mind on that scale?
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Space Shuttle launches as seen from the NASA/JSC WB-57 High Altitude Research aircraft (https://airbornescience.nasa.gov/aircraft/WB-57)
(http://chamorrobible.org/images/photos/gpw-20050129-NASA-GPN-2000-001358-clouds-launch-Space-Shuttle-Columbia-STS-2-Florida-19811112-medium.jpg)
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/555830main_134launchthroughclouds_full.jpg)
This pic is from the ISS
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LOVE Jack Chick tracts! Collect 'em all:
http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlist.asp?q=163&Language=English
PS To this day I'm impressed that he was able to register "Chick.com" before the porn industry. Or farmers.
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Buncha graphic death there.
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Buncha graphic death there.
BOOOOOO!
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Buncha graphic death there.
BOOOOOO!
Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
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Buncha graphic death there.
BOOOOOO!
Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
Is that like tipping a cow?
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I think we need to add airplane disasters to this list.
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We've been pwned!
Let me say in my defense, however, that my life became MUCH more joyful the day I threw out all my socks and bought just three styles in bulk.
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what John Hopkns has to say
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp-content/uploads/sites/26/2016/05/2300death.jpg&w=1484
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Got that one right here.
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Extended version
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Buncha graphic death there.
Graphic Death put on a great show when they opened for Nine Inch Nails back in '92.
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Accurate?
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Should the top one match one of the two below it if a person has one of those conditions?
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"SKILLFULLY COMBINED WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER INGREDIENTS."
"We won't tell you what those ingredients are, however, you'd just be frightened."
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How much is an "m" ?
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"SKILLFULLY COMBINED WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER INGREDIENTS."
"We won't tell you what those ingredients are, however, you'd just be frightened."
"Now with extra lead and mercury for that taste you remember as a kid!"
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How much is an "m" ?
39.3701 inches.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minim_(unit)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minim_(unit)
This link works:
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minim_(unit)">
Minim (unit) - Wikipedia</a>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minim_(unit)
This link works:
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minim_(unit)">
Minim (unit) - Wikipedia</a>
OK, that was truly interesting, thanks!
Almost homeopathic concentrations of the good stuff in that cough syrup though.
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and presumably, 'gr.' will be 'grain' and not 'gramme'. For all the imperial measurements! ;D
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1933 and the FDA was already doing the lord works.
Examination of the drug product involved in this action disclosed that the article contained no ingredient or combination of ingredients xapable of producing certain curative and therapeutic effects claimed in the labeling.
https://fdanj.nlm.nih.gov/catalog/fdnj20156
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Here's how much groundwater-pumping has sunk this farm:
(http://i.imgur.com/FvVEqni.jpg)
Groundwater-Related Subsidence: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundwater-related_subsidence)
The cause of the long-term surface changes associated with this phenomenon are fairly well known.[6] As shown in the USGS figure, aquifers are frequently associated with compressible layers of silt or clay.
As the groundwater is pumped out, the effective stress changes, precipitating consolidation, which is often non-reversible. Thus, the total volume of the silts and clays is reduced, resulting in the lowering of the surface. The damage at the surface is much greater if there is differential settlement, or large-scale features, such as sinkholes and fissures.
I've read that it's still sinking but not quite as dramatically. They've already got most of the water out.
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Wait, are they saying that pre-1925 they sunk electrical poles 30+ feet deep, and that the land sank while the pole stayed constant?
Or just, here's a modern pole (well, modern in 1977), and we've marked where ground height used to be, but before this pole was in place?
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I've never seen telephone poles that high. They would whip like crazy during the sirocco.
(And yes, wrong continent, but you know what I mean.)
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I've read that it's still sinking but not quite as dramatically. They've already got most of the water out.
The sinking was far more widespread during the drought of the last couple years when they were pumping water at much higher rates.
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I've never seen telephone poles that high. They would whip like crazy during the sirocco.
(And yes, wrong continent, but you know what I mean.)
Santa Ana winds. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds)
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There's no telephone facilities on that pole line, it is power only.
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I've never seen telephone poles that high. They would whip like crazy during the sirocco.
(And yes, wrong continent, but you know what I mean.)
Santa Ana winds. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds)
Yeah, that. Sirocco was more Bogart, however. ;D
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Dude don't Bogart my Scirocco
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Hovertext:
Spoiler
I checked and this is the funniest joke about Nikolai Vavilov ever written.
Big Red Button:
Spoiler
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Sauce: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/vavilov
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btIGDkR3Tpo
What a great visualization.
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/">
Astronomy Picture of the Day</a>
The Case of the Backwards Orbiting Asteroid
Explanation: Why does asteroid 2015 BZ509 orbit the Sun the backwards? As shown in the featured animation, Jupiter's trojan asteroids orbit the Sun in two major groups -- one just ahead of Jupiter, and one just behind -- but all orbit the Sun in the same direction as Jupiter. Asteroid BZ509 however, discovered in 2015 and currently unnamed, orbits the Sun in retrograde and in a more complex gravitational dance with Jupiter. The reason why is currently unknown and a topic of research -- but if resolved might tell us about the early Solar System. A recently popular hypothesis holds that BZ509 was captured by Jupiter from interstellar space billions of years ago, while a competing conjecture posits that BZ509 came from our Solar System's own distant Oort cloud of comets, perhaps more recently. The answer may only become known after more detailed models of the likelihood and stability of orbits near Jupiter are studied, or, possibly, by observing direct properties of the unusual object.
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This is bad polling. There is no correct answer.
Some genetically modified foods have genes, some do not.
Some non-genetically modified foods have genes, some do not.
I think Michigan State needs to learn that if you're going to try to point out that others are ignorant of facts, that they themselves need to be extra careful and precise with the facts.
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Doesn't every living reproducing organism (that we would call "food") have DNA/RNA in it's cells. Regardless of if it's been modified or not, they all have genes.
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Doesn't every living reproducing organism (that we would call "food") have DNA/RNA in it's cells. Regardless of if it's been modified or not, they all have genes.
The organisms that produce the food all have genes, yes.
But the genes may not be present in the food they produce.
(This is actually an contentious issue where GMO labeling is required. If there are no genes present in the food, the manufacturers argue they should not be required them to be labeled as GMOs.)
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Are we perhaps talking about modified genes not originally found in nature?
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Are we perhaps talking about modified genes not originally found in nature?
No.
There are foods derived from living organisms, both GMO and non-GMO, generally highly processed foods, which have no DNA or genes, left in the food.
Sugar (sucrose, of course) is a good example. It's a simple molecule and there are no sugar cane genes or DNA present. It's a food, it can be derived from GMO or Non-GMO sources and has no genes.
So, that silly poll, probably designed and published to show that there are a lot of people who aren't as smart as the pollster, is really pretty stupid.
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The correct answer is still False, though.
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There is no correct answer.
On the contrary, it's unambiguously false. It's a false-dichotomy between two wrong assertions.
Some genetically modified foods have genes, some do not.
Conflicts with 'all GMO have genes'
Some non-genetically modified foods have genes, some do not.
Conflicts with 'all non-GMO lack genes'
It looks like a disgust response prompted over-fixation on the wrong assertions you want to correct.
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The correct answer is still False, though.
There are genetically modified foods that have genes. There are non-genetically modified foods that do not have genes.
Yet False is correct?
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"Men have brown eyes and women do not."
I'd say that's a false statement.
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Are we perhaps talking about modified genes not originally found in nature?
No.
There are foods derived from living organisms, both GMO and non-GMO, generally highly processed foods, which have no DNA or genes, left in the food.
Sugar (sucrose, of course) is a good example. It's a simple molecule and there are no sugar cane genes or DNA present. It's a food, it can be derived from GMO or Non-GMO sources and has no genes.
So, that silly poll, probably designed and published to show that there are a lot of people who aren't as smart as the pollster, is really pretty stupid.
Thanks. Monsanto World Headquarters is a few miles south of me. Never seen any "Frankenfood" people out front.
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"Men have brown eyes and women do not."
I'd say that's a false statement.
The "all" is implied?
It may be false, but it it's very silly. That's no way to write a poll question.
But I'm sure it made the pollsters feel smart.
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The correct answer is still False, though.
There are genetically modified foods that have genes. There are non-genetically modified foods that do not have genes.
Yet False is correct?
I think what CarbShark is trying to say is that a gene is only a gene when it is a part of a living organism. When we eat something, we kill it first, therefore the molecules that made genes when the organism was alive are no longer actually genes. Even, I suppose, if I pick a leaf from a lettuce plant and immediately shove it into my mouth-hole, at the very moment of separation from the plant the genes in the leaf become instantaneously inactive and no longer deserve the title of "gene". Instead, they are merely sequences of an inert molecule.
Although I may be way off here. CarbShark may have some strange definition of the word "gene" that I was previously unaware of.
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The correct answer is still False, though.
There are genetically modified foods that have genes. There are non-genetically modified foods that do not have genes.
Yet False is correct?
I think what CarbShark is trying to say is that a gene is only a gene when it is a part of a living organism. When we eat something, we kill it first, therefore the molecules that made genes when the organism was alive are no longer actually genes. Even, I suppose, if I pick a leaf from a lettuce plant and immediately shove it into my mouth-hole, at the very moment of separation from the plant the genes in the leaf become instantaneously inactive and no longer deserve the title of "gene". Instead, they are merely sequences of an inert molecule.
Although I may be way off here. CarbShark may have some strange definition of the word "gene" that I was previously unaware of.
No that's not at all what I'm trying to say. (And I do not agree with that)
Sucrose (table sugar) is a food. It has no genes (both GMO and non-GMO). You cannot do a scientific examination of sugar and find DNA or genes (using the ordinary standard definition). Lettuce, or Rib-eye steak do have DNA and genes (both GMO and non-GMO).
There are a number of foods that sufficiently processed as to remove all trace of DNA (or genes). This includes a number of familiar foods like vegetable oils; breakfast cereal; refined flours. From the living organism we extract foods that do not have genes.
And, no, this is not something I'm inventing, or some alt-science thing. Anyone fairly well versed in the issue of GMO foods and labeling would know about this (I'm surprised people here seem unfamiliar with it) and that's why this poll bugs me, because the pollsters didn't do even cursory research into the topic and just assumed they knew the answer. (rather smugly).
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Well if you'd just said that at the beginning...
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He did. Not right at the beginning, but the explanation that some foods are processed to the point of removing all DNA and the specific example of sugar were already mentioned above.
I still think the statement used in the survey is false, but not because I misunderstood CarbShark's point.
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The opposite statement is also false then:
Non-GMO foods have genes and GMO foods do not.
Do you agree it’s a poorly written survey?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Yes, sometimes both a statement and its opposite are false.
It is poorly written, but that doesn't mean there's no correct answer.
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Yes, sometimes both a statement and its opposite are false.
It is poorly written, but that doesn't mean there's no correct answer.
Some questions are malformed in a way that constricts the answer space too much for a meaningful answer. This is easy to do with yes/no or true/false questions. The classic is "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" It may be possible to answer 'yes' or 'no' truthfully if you have previously or are currently beating your wife, but there is no way to answer "I have never beaten my wife" with 'yes' or 'no'.
The survey is like that. While there are conditions under which a true or false answer may reflect reality, there are other correct answers that can not be given. In that sense the survey is not even wrong.
BTW, this kind of framing effect is very powerful. I mean, I know that many foods don't have genes or DNA in them, yet the structure of the question eliminated that set of concepts from my consideration. If CarbShark hadn't broken the frame for me, I would have missed it completely. (Good job, CarbShark!)
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edit: Eh, nevermind.
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Like most public surveys on science knowledge, summarising and simplifying makes the responses misleading. If you read the intent of the question, its meaning is very clear. But technically it's incorrect. And as we all know, that's the best kind of incorrectness.
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Not sure about the accuracy or back story of this but the general sentiment seems fair enough.
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A: That was a protest about a real thing that is happening.
B:It wasn't "the media" that first circulated that image as being a real imigrant kid in a cage; it was a guy on Twitter.
C: These images should be real enough for you:
https://goo.gl/images/PwbPYN
https://goo.gl/images/4tCNxE
https://goo.gl/images/b8Yxqx
While we're on the subject, this is not entirely new. That first picture I linked was taken during the Obama administration. But it is true that Trump is pursuing the policy with a new level of enthusiasm and dishonesty.
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Blacksmith heats steel bar to 1,800F. Bends like a noodle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA
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Hmmmm.... I think I might try that, thanks :)
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Hmmmm.... I think I might try that, thanks :)
If all else fails there's always sci-hub.
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Love it
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You're on fire werecow.
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Hmmmm.... I think I might try that, thanks :)
If all else fails there's always sci-hub.
I understand that posting a citation with the hashtag #ICanHazPDF on Twitter is also a viable option.
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At first I thought that was a tie-fighter on a microscope slide.
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...and I saw TIE fighter over the Hawaiian islands!
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I hope it didn't get burned.
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Wait, we're microchipping fungus now?
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That's badass!
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There's a little black spot on the sun today...
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There's a sale on our gabardine suits today
They're all thirty percent off from yesterday
There's Fortrel polyester, leather, wool and tweed
Just a Visa or Mastercard is all you need
[Chorus 1:]
We've got every color, we've got ev'ry shade
We're located next door to Willy's Fun Arcade
We got every fabric that was ever made
But I'm known in this city as the King of Suede
[Verse 2:]
We got portly and regular and extra-long
(Is my size up there?)
We got tailors to fix it, if it comes out wrong
(Is my size up there?)
We got all kinds of sweatshirts, you can take your pick
(Is my size up there?)
With the collars ripped off, like in that Flashdance flick
(Is my size up there?)
[Chorus 2:]
Our prices are low, my staff is underpaid
You can buy off the rack or have it custom made
And it's all guaranteed to never shrink or fade
Cause of my reputation as the King of Suede
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Shared by SciBabe (http://scibabe.com/):
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<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/">
Astronomy Picture of the Day</a>
(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1808/Ryugu_Hayabusa2_1024.jpg)
Explanation: This big space diamond has an estimated value of over 80 billion dollars. It's only diamond in shape, though -- asteroid 162173 Ryugu is thought to be composed of mostly nickel and iron. Asteroids like Ryugu are interesting for several reasons, perhaps foremost because they are near the Earth and might, one day in the far future, pose an impact threat. In the nearer term, Ryugu is interesting because it may be possible to send future spacecraft there to mine it, thus providing humanity with a new source of valuable metals. Scientifically, Ryugu is interesting because it carries information about how our Solar System formed billions of years ago, and why its orbit takes it so close to Earth. Japan's robotic spacecraft Hayabusa2 just arrived at this one-kilometer wide asteroid in late June. The featured image shows surface structures unknown before spacecraft Hayabusa2's arrival, including rock fields and craters. Within the next three months, Hayabusa2 is scheduled to unleash several probes, some that will land on Ryugu and hop around, while Hayabusa2 itself will mine just a little bit of the asteroid for return to Earth.
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Heck, this thread could just contain a live link to APOD.
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Heck, this thread could just contain a live link to APOD.
I get them in the mail every day. :love:
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Imagine a nickel-iron asteroid like this tugged into orbit around Earth and anchoring a space elevator.
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Imagine a nickel-iron asteroid like this tugged into orbit around Earth and anchoring a space elevator.
my first thought upon reading the line, "and might, one day in the far future, pose an impact threat" was, 'or a lot sooner when the attempt to bring it into a closer Earth orbit goes horribly wrong'
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Imagine a nickel-iron asteroid like this tugged into orbit around Earth and anchoring a space elevator.
my first thought upon reading the line, "and might, one day in the far future, pose an impact threat" was, 'or a lot sooner when the attempt to bring it into a closer Earth orbit goes horribly wrong'
"What could possibly go wrong?"
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See, I was thinking that a bunch of open core fission reactors could use asteroid material as reaction mass to push it in an earth-lunar conveyor orbit. Mining, transit, science, and cool-as-heck all in one.
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See, I was thinking that a bunch of open core fission reactors could use asteroid material as reaction mass to push it in an earth-lunar conveyor orbit. Mining, transit, science, and cool-as-heck all in one.
If you're not in rush "gravity tugs" would be safer. Have a mass in a triangular relationship with the asteroid and Earth. The mass gives a slight pull to the asteroid and, if managed properly, the big rock goes into a different orbit.
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Safer in what sense? I mean space is already radioactive as hell. Mining out a big asteroid would provide good shielding from that and from the reactors. You'd want active engines for a conveyor, I think, since the mass of the thing would be constantly changing as the asteroid is mined out and turned into a habitat.
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Safer in what sense? I mean space is already radioactive as hell. Mining out a big asteroid would provide good shielding from that and from the reactors. You'd want active engines for a conveyor, I think, since the mass of the thing would be constantly changing as the asteroid is mined out and turned into a habitat.
In the sense that you don't need so much equipment and you have time to adjust the trajectory if it looks to be going wonky.
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Sensible if you're just aiming to be close but not TOO close. :)
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Sensible if you're just aiming to be close but not TOO close. :)
The most important thing would be to get-r-done before any government got involved. :-[
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I think it's clear that (in these kinds of domains) governments are admirably slow. >:D
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Is there anyone reading this thread who isn't already subscribed to SMBC? :D
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/me Slowly and cautiously raises his hand.
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/me Slowly and cautiously raises his hand.
Ok, cus, he did. Raises hand too.
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I'm not
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Get on that, you guys. SMBC is practically mandatory reading for anyone who calls themself a skeptic.
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It really is stunningly good. There is almost always hovertext and a red button bonus comic panel too.
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I use my Motorola for almost everything, so "hover text" is a downside for me. Every time I will know I'm missing something.
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I'm subscribed in my RSS feed reader, the hovertext is always printed below the cartoon in case you're on a device that can't hover. I don't know if that's the case on the actual site or not.
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I can never get the challenge question.
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I'm subscribed in my RSS feed reader, the hovertext is always printed below the cartoon in case you're on a device that can't hover. I don't know if that's the case on the actual site or not.
You can tap the image to have the hover pop up.
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Oh no! The sun sets? This could be the fatal blow for solar energy. Why has nobody in the solar industry ever considered this before?
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(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
DHMO is nothing. It's all the hydric acid you really have to worry about.
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Oh no! The sun sets? This could be the fatal blow for solar energy. Why has nobody in the solar industry ever considered this before?
Wind dies. Sun sets.
But coal kills like it's nobody's business.
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
DHMO is nothing. It's all the hydric acid you really have to worry about.
That plus the oxidane is enough to kill you.
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
DHMO is nothing. It's all the hydric acid you really have to worry about.
Just remember, no acid has a pH higher than water.
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Thank god that there is a group like Oxidane.org (http://oxidane.org/index.html) to help us understand the dangers!
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
DHMO is nothing. It's all the hydric acid you really have to worry about.
That plus the oxidane is enough to kill you.
Oh please, all that stuff is completely diluted by all that water. ::)
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(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
DHMO is nothing. It's all the hydric acid you really have to worry about.
That plus the oxidane is enough to kill you.
Oh please, all that stuff is completely diluted by all that water. ::)
That just makes it stronger.
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*GASP*
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
DHMO is nothing. It's all the hydric acid you really have to worry about.
That is the same stuff that is in jet chemtrails.
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/YBq6M5d.jpg)
DHMO is nothing. It's all the hydric acid you really have to worry about.
That is the same stuff that is in jet chemtrails.
3 words: Nuclear Reactor coolant.
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You people are scaring me. Good thing I only drink coffee and whisky. Keeps me safe!
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You people are scaring me. Good thing I only drink coffee and whisky. Keeps me safe!
To make matters worse, it's bipolar.
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What I want to know is why the government has it pumped right into our homes!
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What I want to know is why the government has it pumped right into our homes!
The mind control element, dude! Once people start on the stuff they have to have it and will do damn near anything to get it. And the government controls supply and distribution. Think about that. /alexjones
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What I want to know is why the government has it pumped right into our homes!
They found the stuff on Mars and Mars is a dead planet. Not saying, just sayin.
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I've heard that it is one of the prime components in acid rain, as well as the most dominant greenhouse gas on earth.
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You'd think the government would wake up when there's clouds of the shit floating around and SOLID CHUNKS OF IT FALLING FROM THE SKY!!!!!!!
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I find it interesting that none of it seems to fall on Saudi Arabia.
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You'd think the government would wake up when there's clouds of the shit floating around and SOLID CHUNKS OF IT FALLING FROM THE SKY!!!!!!!
and you can die by just inhaling a tiny amount.
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I'm just got tested and it's showing up in my blood and urine! :(
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Holy shit, well I just checked an instrument I bought that is supposed to detect this stuff in the air in my house and apparently it's at like 70% of saturation! I don't know what it was that set off the Illuminati type folks but I guess I'm a target now. }|8o#
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I find it interesting that none of it seems to fall on Saudi Arabia.
Gotta keep the sand worms somewhere.
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Holy shit, well I just checked an instrument I bought that is supposed to detect this stuff in the air in my house and apparently it's at like 70% of saturation! I don't know what it was that set off the Illuminati type folks but I guess I'm a target now. }|8o#
My house is nowhere near that high. But I do have a little wooden box that seems to stay around 74%...I keep my poisonous flammable plant sticks in there.
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Holy shit, well I just checked an instrument I bought that is supposed to detect this stuff in the air in my house and apparently it's at like 70% of saturation! I don't know what it was that set off the Illuminati type folks but I guess I'm a target now. }|8o#
My house is nowhere near that high. But I do have a little wooden box that seems to stay around 74%...I keep my poisonous flammable plant sticks in there.
"Sometimes a poisonous flammable plant stick is just a poisonous flammable plant stick."
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Holy shit, well I just checked an instrument I bought that is supposed to detect this stuff in the air in my house and apparently it's at like 70% of saturation! I don't know what it was that set off the Illuminati type folks but I guess I'm a target now. }|8o#
My house is nowhere near that high. But I do have a little wooden box that seems to stay around 74%...I keep my poisonous flammable plant sticks in there.
"Sometimes a poisonous flammable plant stick is just a poisonous flammable plant stick."
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzYwMjc3ODEzOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTI1NDM1._V1_UY317_CR9,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)
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Acid and contrails and greenhouse gases... That's nothing...
Consider this: Every single water molecule contains two Hydrogen atoms separated by an Oxygen atom. Should that Oxygen atom fail, there is nothing preventing a fusion reaction generating a thermonuclear detonation.
Water. Liquid solar hellfire.
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Wait, who was talking about water? This is about DHMO.
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Wait, who was talking about water? This is about DHMO.
Yes the stuff that Monsanto uses to grow their crops.
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Wait, who was talking about water? This is about DHMO.
Yes the stuff that Monsanto uses to grow their crops.
[pedant] Monsanto doesn't grow crops, farmers do, they just provide the seeds (and roundup) [\pedant]
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Wait, who was talking about water? This is about DHMO.
Yes the stuff that Monsanto uses to grow their crops.
[pedant] Monsanto doesn't grow crops, farmers do, they just provide the seeds (and roundup) [\pedant]
They have really big green houses on their facility here in St. Louis.
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[pedant]'E's not growin'! 'E's passed on! This company is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!He's f*ckin' snuffed it!..... THIS IS AN EX-COMPANY!!
Now BAYER...[/pedant]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiMf06GthU4
Highlight @ 19:03 - 19:21. Describes process of using bushes and grasses to revert desert to grassland.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ahurL2Jk4E
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The water was turning to steam as it hit that sucker. Gotta ride it out.
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Wait, who was talking about water? This is about DHMO.
Yes the stuff that Monsanto uses to grow their crops.
[pedant] Monsanto doesn't grow crops, farmers do, they just provide the seeds (and roundup) [\pedant]
I only say that Monsanto does it because of the mind control effects of their GMO gluten.
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(https://vicskeptics.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynne-kelly-skeptic-guide-quote-1200w.jpg)
I assume that the originator is this Lynne Kelly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynne_Kelly_(science_writer)), Australian skeptic.
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Too subtle for religious folks.
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(https://vicskeptics.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynne-kelly-skeptic-guide-quote-1200w.jpg)
I assume that the originator is this Lynne Kelly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynne_Kelly_(science_writer)), Australian skeptic.
That is all good and well until you realize that the person beside you is only making one set of footprints in the sand which is proof that God is actually carrying him.
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(https://vicskeptics.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynne-kelly-skeptic-guide-quote-1200w.jpg)
I assume that the originator is this Lynne Kelly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynne_Kelly_(science_writer)), Australian skeptic.
That is all good and well until you realize that the person beside you is only making one set of footprints in the sand which is proof that God is actually carrying him.
(https://fsmedia.imgix.net/c1/46/7d/65/027d/48cf/bf7e/c64f7fbcc24b/luke-skywalkers-shoes-no-footprints.png?auto=format%2Ccompress&w=650)
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"I'll always be with you..."
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(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a1Qp5EP_460swp.webp)
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(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38200000/Things-Carl-Sagan-Taught-Me-carl-sagan-38289906-1024-707.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/3T813o9.jpg)
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That guy needs a Hawaiian shirt.
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(https://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/1469926_779685588723537_981205669_n.png)
Something we should all try to keep in mind everyday.
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(https://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/1469926_779685588723537_981205669_n.png)
Something we should all try to keep in mind everyday.
I don't know if this is true. It can be but it certainly isn't a given. I know plenty of people that don't believe in God that don't live life to the fullest and a few that have taken their lives. The opposite is true with believers. Just because I know I am going to eventually get a new car doesn't mean I am going to pinball my current one off trees and treat it like crap. If tomorrow they figured out how at the end of our lives to load who we are into a computer so that we could live indefinitely in a computer universe doesn't mean that I would live all that different or that my current life would have less meaning.
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"You don't mess around wasting your time in this life because you expect to have another one" is true of people who don't believe in an afterlife, whether or not those people still in fact mess around wasting time in this life. If you don't believe in an afterlife, then whatever you do now can't possibly be "because you expect to have another [life]".
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"You don't mess around wasting your time in this life because you expect to have another one" is true of people who don't believe in an afterlife, whether or not those people still in fact mess around wasting time in this life. If you don't believe in an afterlife, then whatever you do now can't possibly be "because you expect to have another [life]".
That is a Kellyanne Conway way of spinning it.
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(https://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/1469926_779685588723537_981205669_n.png)
Something we should all try to keep in mind everyday.
I don't know if this is true. It can be but it certainly isn't a given. I know plenty of people that don't believe in God that don't live life to the fullest and a few that have taken their lives. The opposite is true with believers. Just because I know I am going to eventually get a new car doesn't mean I am going to pinball my current one off trees and treat it like crap. If tomorrow they figured out how at the end of our lives to load who we are into a computer so that we could live indefinitely in a computer universe doesn't mean that I would live all that different or that my current life would have less meaning.
I agree. That's why I added my comment. ;)
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(https://i.imgur.com/45PDHS6.jpg)
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I seen the WTC conspirators' math described as thermodumbnamics.
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(https://i.imgur.com/iAJpokI.jpg)
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OMG
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(https://i.imgur.com/iAJpokI.jpg)
Took me a second. Morbidly funny.
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(https://philosophicalswag.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/neil-degrasse-tyson-i-am-driven-by-two.jpg)
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I hope this doesn't break anything...
(http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/solar-system-explained-infographic.jpg)
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(http://rationalia.com/gawdzilla/scrolling%20speeding.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/pzwBeFa.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/rW9wOr7.gif)
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(https://i.imgur.com/4BwBqDI.jpg)
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(https://i.redd.it/t3o2pqvdht121.jpg)
(Air assume sea-level density)
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Add to my collection. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=SsR_fRDIQXk
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(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1543681019-20181201%20(2).png)
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/secrets)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=SsR_fRDIQXk
https://youtu.be/NJZqREPc9k0
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Been there, done that
Surprised the lights stayed on as long as they did, and came back so quickly.
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188 Cognitive Biases in One Image from: VisualCapitalist.com
(http://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cognitive-bias.jpg) (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/every-single-cognitive-bias/)
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205851496007467009/501134495563513866/Screenshot_2018-10-14_Florida_Democrat_Invokes_Blood_of_Jesus_Against_Witches_Warlocks_Seeking_to_Ha.png)
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205851496007467009/501134495563513866/Screenshot_2018-10-14_Florida_Democrat_Invokes_Blood_of_Jesus_Against_Witches_Warlocks_Seeking_to_Ha.png)
I'm always surprised when people find this sort of thing surprising. This was de rigeur for the church I was in. Completely normal and expected. I keep having to remind myself that other people might not be used to the idea.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Lt3IE0u.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/Lt3IE0u.jpg)
That's not spaghetti, man. That would have to be due to some other god.
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Godzilla fought Rotini and lost!
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(http://i.imgur.com/Lt3IE0u.jpg)
That's not spaghetti, man. That would have to be due to some other god.
They're called pastafarians, man, they don't discriminate.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Lt3IE0u.jpg)
That's not spaghetti, man. That would have to be due to some other god.
They're called pastafarians, man, they don't discriminate.
I am just saying that if this is proof that the god created life it wouldn't be a spaghetti god. I have no problem with worshiping the entire Pantheon but you shouldn't give credit to Hera for something Zeus did.
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edit: Nevermind
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(http://i.imgur.com/zLUQugw.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/O3CfzHt.gif)
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(https://i.imgur.com/O3CfzHt.gif)
Mercury got whacked.
I'll reserve my opinion about Uranus.
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(http://i.imgur.com/sDuUPUr.png)
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Perpetuum mobile.
(http://i.imgur.com/jNGQuMt.jpg)
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Perception hampers reality?
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(https://i.imgur.com/B1LQwu3.gif)
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Tardigrade?
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not animating. >:(
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not animating. >:(
https://i.imgur.com/B1LQwu3.gifv
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My mind keeps flipping it from on its back to on its front.
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My mind keeps flipping it from on its back to on its front.
The legs wouldn't have been so clear. The body mass would have obscured them. As it is it's not hard to see the crotch.
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(https://i.imgur.com/zM41BNL.gif)
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That's very cool.
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(https://i.imgur.com/EjKLlIj.jpg)
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Without knowing what is being cultured and why the growth rate is different, I'm not sure how to interpret that last one.
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I assumed it had to do with penicillin-resistant bacteria.
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Nevermind; I see now that the circles represent absence of growth, and that the central spots are antibiotics.
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(https://i.imgur.com/rJqn6Dy.gif)
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I suppose that’s cool for scale, but I’m completely distracted by the fact that light travels far too fast to orbit at the surface of the Earth. It would be able to orbit less than a centimeter from the center of mass of the earth (and Earth would therefore have to be a black hole).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICv6GLwt1gM
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I suppose that’s cool for scale, but I’m completely distracted by the fact that light travels far too fast to orbit at the surface of the Earth. It would be able to orbit less than a centimeter from the center of mass of the earth (and Earth would therefore have to be a black hole).
You could imagine it being reflected or in an optical cable or something, though admittedly it still wouldn't technically be an "orbit".
Also, photons can orbit at 1.5 times the Schwarzschild radius (of a neutral unmoving spherical distribution of mass), and I'm pretty certain it would be impossible for any sort of matter that obeys Relativity to be smaller than that without collapsing into a black hole.
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(https://i.imgur.com/zGcFTuZ.jpg)
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Also, photons can orbit at 1.5 times the Schwarzschild radius (of a neutral unmoving spherical distribution of mass), and I'm pretty certain it would be impossible for any sort of matter that obeys Relativity to be smaller than that without collapsing into a black hole.
Which is, I think, what I said? I may have been slightly off on the orbital radius of a 1c object (it would actually be around 1.2 cm), but I hardly think that changes my point.
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(https://i.imgur.com/MfFBAvC.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/3zDJKTu.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/3zDJKTu.mp4
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ETA never mind, didn't work
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Also, photons can orbit at 1.5 times the Schwarzschild radius (of a neutral unmoving spherical distribution of mass), and I'm pretty certain it would be impossible for any sort of matter that obeys Relativity to be smaller than that without collapsing into a black hole.
Which is, I think, what I said? I may have been slightly off on the orbital radius of a 1c object (it would actually be around 1.2 cm), but I hardly think that changes my point.
The wording of your post made it seem like you were saying Earth in particular would have to be a black hole for light to orbit, rather than that black holes are the only possible things light could orbit.
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Also, photons can orbit at 1.5 times the Schwarzschild radius (of a neutral unmoving spherical distribution of mass), and I'm pretty certain it would be impossible for any sort of matter that obeys Relativity to be smaller than that without collapsing into a black hole.
Which is, I think, what I said? I may have been slightly off on the orbital radius of a 1c object (it would actually be around 1.2 cm), but I hardly think that changes my point.
The wording of your post made it seem like you were saying Earth in particular would have to be a black hole for light to orbit, rather than that black holes are the only possible things light could orbit.
I don't think that's a reasonable interpretation of my words. I spoke only of the Earth because I was discussing the deficiencies of a particular image of light 'orbiting' Earth.
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(https://i.redd.it/codu28ptdqd21.png)
That skull is a hero.
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LOL "it is reported". By whom? Your momma?
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(https://i.imgur.com/etUxUfK.jpg)
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Where was that during our Pokemon mafia game?!
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Right?!
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bZx11z7q_EM/U1dDxWbhiRI/AAAAAAAAUdE/G6myWdmU-hg/w1920-h1080/The-Sagan-Series-Pale-Blue-Dot-1.jpg)
Words to live by. Unfortunately, collectively as a species, we are not taking good care of the pale blue dot. We are making a clusterfuck out of it.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn4MsudXUAEXmTF.jpg)
Sounds like the Donald. Also sounds like Putin and Erdogan, and probably others I can't think of right now.
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I think the wrong passage is highlighted there. The last paragraph is the most powerful and relevant to today's world in my opinion. The polarization of political dogma is now extreme, and the last paragraph describes why it will be so difficult for the world to recover.
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https://www.facebook.com/theUltimatefighterr/videos/352490451756435/
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I see a dolphin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TU3arrZR8
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https://vimeo.com/315487551
From single-cell to Newt in six minutes. Fascinating little video.
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Zebra fish Nervous system growing over 16 hours:
https://giant.gfycat.com/AdoredRemoteBobcat.webm
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Zebra fish Nervous system growing over 16 hours:
False advertising! Beware! Only 40 seconds long!
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(https://i.redd.it/pyg9doiritf21.png)
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For a split second I thought the signature said "Martian Intelligence".
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205851496007467009/539227370746282034/FB_IMG_1548617721454.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UtNUTkK.jpg)
Oh, and also:
(http://i.imgur.com/cNg3IZ9.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/n2Sb5XP.jpg)
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That reminds me of a warning label I saw once which read "Please be advised that any use of this product will increase the amount of entropy in the universe. While no responsibility is implied, users are warned that this will eventually lead to the heat death of the universe."
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(https://66.media.tumblr.com/335efd8d063b9e1100dd4765c6e12276/tumblr_oc8nwaqAra1qf07h2o1_500.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/bKeHhS5.png)
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(http://www.wakingtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Expanding-Earth.jpg)
Neal Adams would be proud. Actually, who knows, maybe he made it.
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God does balloon animals?
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Yes, but only terrified pufferfish.
(http://i.imgur.com/WH4QwITl.jpg)
EDIT:
Also:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V_mr1vtkSeY/VUo-zrrn1MI/AAAAAAAAUFI/trVAc_rT6Hc/s1600/07aef80249fd17aa63e1%5B1%5D.jpg)
Mystery solved.
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V_mr1vtkSeY/VUo-zrrn1MI/AAAAAAAAUFI/trVAc_rT6Hc/s1600/07aef80249fd17aa63e1%5B1%5D.jpg)
Mystery solved.
Yay, science!
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https://twitter.com/ReskiLab/status/1097744480361418753
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Building the ISS
https://i.imgur.com/uEeChpf.mp4
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Building the ISS
VOLTRON!
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(http://i.imgur.com/nMXdXSO.jpg)
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(https://i.redd.it/jxxlummyu8i21.jpg)
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Building the ISS
https://i.imgur.com/uEeChpf.mp4
Okay, so where are our flying cars? ;D
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(https://i.redd.it/jxxlummyu8i21.jpg)
A lovely picture. From where is it taken?
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(https://i.redd.it/jxxlummyu8i21.jpg)
A lovely picture. From where is it taken?
My backyard....
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(https://i.redd.it/jxxlummyu8i21.jpg)
A lovely picture. From where is it taken?
A rover.
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(https://i.redd.it/jxxlummyu8i21.jpg)
A lovely picture. From where is it taken?
A rover.
That was located?
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Right where it took the picture.
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Ok, I've had enough of you.
I don't understand why people here feel they have a lisence to be rude to me without me being rude.
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They were teasing.
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Where are you going? Out.
When are you going to be back? Later.
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They were teasing.
Seriously. I mean, where do we have cameras that can take pictures of the Earth and have a hilly skyline in the picture?
If you look carefully you'll see Mark Watney driving by.
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Spoiler
(https://i.redd.it/jxxlummyu8i21.jpg)
A lovely picture. From where is it taken?
A rover.
That was located?
Mars.
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Hey! No spoilers!
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Ok, I've had enough of you.
I don't understand why people here feel they have a lisence to be rude to me without me being rude.
Sadly, the best way to get an answer out of someone on the Internet is to simply post the wrong answer yourself: The desire to simply be a dick is always outweighed by the need to prove how much smarter they are than someone else.
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Ok, I've had enough of you.
I don't understand why people here feel they have a lisence to be rude to me without me being rude.
Sadly, the best way to get an answer out of someone on the Internet is to simply post the wrong answer yourself: The desire to simply be a dick is always outweighed by the need to prove how much smarter they are than someone else.
You have to admit that dumb questions will get hilarious answers.
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Ok, I've had enough of you.
I don't understand why people here feel they have a lisence to be rude to me without me being rude.
Sadly, the best way to get an answer out of someone on the Internet is to simply post the wrong answer yourself: The desire to simply be a dick is always outweighed by the need to prove how much smarter they are than someone else.
Actually that’s not true. The best way to get an answer is to ... oh, wait ...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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(https://i.imgur.com/cxfTcw4.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBVoxwwGlnc
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Climate Science, 1995. Ice Stream D, WAIS.
(https://i.imgur.com/xlKp657.jpg)
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My fantastic wife has been hassling me for years to get a tattoo. She gave me a voucher for fathers day, which was non refundable. Being permanent (as tattoos seem to be) I wanted it to be something which was meaningful to me and reflect part of what I believe I am, so I settled on this, with the kids names added.
(https://scontent.fsyd5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52778895_2554775021218734_7781377277354311680_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd5-1.fna&oh=4ebbe58334dcb9b65215dcfb366960ef&oe=5D1D84BF)
Damien
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Clever.
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(http://i.imgur.com/taSfk8r.jpg)
Damn scientiscians, holding back astronauts left and right.
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(https://i.imgur.com/09dmT1z.png)
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https://youtu.be/cNT5yAqpBmI
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(https://i.imgur.com/HAwoU6hg.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/bh6L8rS.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/1zSX9DW.png)
Spoiler
Earth and Moon from Mercury
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What magnification?
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(https://i.imgur.com/HAwoU6hg.jpg)
That is very cool
(https://qphl.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-31aa02b20e98337fa2cc0578344716c6.webp)
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(http://www.rednecktek.net/misc/yeti-warning%20(800x450).jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/iqQ7UGL.png)
That small dot is us.
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Weird! It looks like Saturn.
;D
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(http://i.imgur.com/yegjvJn.jpg)
(https://arstechnica.com/civis/download/file.php?id=42227)
(https://arstechnica.com/civis/download/file.php?id=42225)
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Look at it from a little distance.
(http://i.imgur.com/GWVgey8.jpg)
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(https://forum.level1techs.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/6/66fd7ab2c9a6d5de11a3b4fae553b6c322a742a2.jpeg)
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(https://arstechnica.com/civis/download/file.php?id=43039)
(https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aADb3DR_460s.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUW51lvIFjg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUW51lvIFjg)
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/">
Astronomy Picture of the Day</a>
Explanation: Welcome to an equinox on planet Earth. Today is the first day of spring in our fair planet's northern hemisphere, fall in the southern hemisphere, with day and night nearly equal around the globe. At an equinox Earth's terminator, the dividing line between day and night, connects the planet's north and south poles as seen at the start of this remarkable time-lapse video compressing an entire year into twelve seconds. To make it, the Meteosat satellite recorded these infrared images every day at the same local time from a geosynchronous orbit. The video actually starts at the September 2010 equinox with the terminator aligned vertically. As the Earth revolves around the Sun, the terminator tilts to provide less daily sunlight to the northern hemisphere, reaching the solstice and northern hemisphere winter at the maximum tilt. As the year continues, the terminator tilts back again and March 2011 equinox arrives halfway through the video. Then the terminator swings past vertical the other way, reaching the the June 2011 solstice and the beginning of northern summer. The video ends as the September equinox returns.
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(https://i.redd.it/gumx37380mn21.jpg)
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(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/55776268_2038563866256211_8730305917213474816_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=d9ad36b33b61f6d5f675fa8c3e68ba77&oe=5D143A7C)
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https://www.evogeneao.com/explore/tree-of-life-explorer
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https://www.evogeneao.com/explore/tree-of-life-explorer
I love that image - but my first thought is that mammals are grossly overrepresented, mostly at the expense of birds.
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https://www.evogeneao.com/explore/tree-of-life-explorer
I love that image - but my first thought is that mammals are grossly overrepresented, mostly at the expense of birds.
My first thought was that the diversity of Bacteria and Archaea was significantly underrepresented.
They actually have a page that does a pretty good job of explaining the biases that have been built into the image: https://www.evogeneao.com/learn/tree-of-life
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Birds schmirds... Do you see that single branch named "beetles"?
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Look at it from a little distance.
(http://i.imgur.com/GWVgey8.jpg)
I hope it is a self portrait, but I suspect it is the image of the Lark messiah and was partially funded by the bird NEA and it is completely making the devout bird catholics very, very angry.
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(https://i.imgur.com/yzWmnBd.jpg)
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Good old reliable physics.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OW51ZyBgEsK9W/giphy.gif)
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I would have gone mileys and mileys to watch that live. Perhaps all the way to Montana.
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女仆罪恶美国
(https://i.imgur.com/yzWmnBd.jpg)
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(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/industry_nicknames.png)
Spoiler
As far as "being in the pocket of Big Egg" goes, I think the real threat is Chansey.
Alternative Literature</a>
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女仆罪恶美国
(https://i.imgur.com/yzWmnBd.jpg)
American maid sin?
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女仆罪恶美国
(https://i.imgur.com/yzWmnBd.jpg)
American maid sin?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/9/9f/Americanmaid.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160729131532&path-prefix=protagonist)
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(https://i.imgur.com/OIDj7Lm.jpg)
Spoiler
internet circa 1973
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Eugene Spafford was just a kid. No wonder Purdue isn't on that map.
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(https://i.imgur.com/vabbDcL.jpg)
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And also:
(https://i.imgur.com/kRlGVrDl.jpg)
EDIT 2:
And because I'm bipartisan on the whole Wars/Trek issue:
(https://i.imgur.com/lkyJw3k.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/QykJjOnm.jpg)
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(https://world.greekreporter.com/files/shipwreck-e1552919119376.jpg)
https://world.greekreporter.com/2019/03/18/egyptian-shipwreck-proves-greek-historian-herodotus-right-after-2500-years/
AfricaArchaeologyMiddle EastEgyptNews
Egyptian Shipwreck Proves Greek Historian Herodotus Right — After 2,500 Years
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I have asking me why and how humans domesticated wolves. Living in Amazon jungle for 7 years and observing things there I concluded that all social systems that humans has created till now ( be it communism, monarchy, feudalism, capitalism, etc.) are just copies of the jungle division of power among animals. So, the first humans with preys as cows noticed that wolves were doing a good job for them. Like the lions permits the existence of wolves surrounding their territories because wolves help to keep the order in his reign, the cows doesn't escape due fear of the wolves, etc. The wolves were the first security, the foreman... the first middle class...
So, the first humans did it because the inherited instincts from non-rational animals were being transformed into human intelligence...
Am I wrong? Why?
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More likely, "puppies are cute" was the motivator. Hunter kills Mom, takes one or pups home to the kids. Second place would be wolves scavenging and becoming accustomed to being around humans to the point when the two species were willing to be in proximity.
And always remember "a dog is a wolf with the interesting parts bred out of it."
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More likely, "puppies are cute" was the motivator. Hunter kills Mom, takes one or pups home to the kids. Second place would be wolves scavenging and becoming accustomed to being around humans to the point when the two species were willing to be in proximity.
And always remember "a dog is a wolf with the interesting parts bred out of it."
That's an answer to the first question about why we domesticated them. But I think the rest of the post is asking what we think about the idea that our social structures are based on the social structures already present in nature but with some human intelligence applied. The way it was worded seems to imply a lot of anthropomorphism, but I don't think it was intended that way. Animals have an evolved nature that causes their social structures, and so do we. How similar are our social structures to animal ones?
I'm happy to restate the question, but I have no answers. This might be best in a thread of its own.
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I think our most basic social structures are very similar to the more intelligent animals. We certainly share traits with the great apes.
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I'd question division of 'animal instinct' from 'human intelligence'
We're primates doing generic primate stuff except with:- A greater facility for language
- A greater facility for tool-use
- A greater facility for abstract thought
- Fabulous primary and secondary sexual characteristics
I only ever took Intro to Sociology and have never touched anything about the study of systems but I expect you could define basic elements of human behavior and social structures, show how you can get complex behavior/systems out of those simple basal elements and then also identify those same elements all throughout nature and just in systems in general.
Like, evolution is a general systems thing. It's filtered variation. Any system subject to (1) self-replication forward through time and (2) variation will display evolutionary change/behavior. This applies to human bodies, bread recipes, tire designs and pigeon behavior all the same. It's a general 'systems' thing.
I expect a great deal of what we think of as 'human' 100% generalizes to all kinds of broader/shared contexts
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Social structures are just like any other evolutionary process. Some social structures increase the probability of survival and reproduction and others don't. It shouldn't be surprising that similar social structures are seen across species, because those species that develop those social structures have survival advantages.
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(https://i.imgur.com/DUXe3rP.jpg)
You know, in an attempt to find images in the image thread? /passiveaggressiveness
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More likely, "puppies are cute" was the motivator. Hunter kills Mom, takes one or pups home to the kids. Second place would be wolves scavenging and becoming accustomed to being around humans to the point when the two species were willing to be in proximity.
And always remember "a dog is a wolf with the interesting parts bred out of it."
I think there's more to it than that though. For one thing, wolves have a social structure that is much more similar to the way humans typically organize than most other animals, we both hunt and scavenge in similar ways (with a high degree of social organization and persistence hunting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting)), we're both omnivorous to some extent, and wolves are relatively intelligent. There's a lot of recognition between our species, and we occupy overlapping ecological niches, so we're either competing or we cooperate - an opportunity which not every species can recognize, but both of our species can, because we both have the social structure and observational intelligence needed to do so. And we're both opportunistic and we both bond strongly with our immediate social group. If cuteness were the only factor, I'm guessing small, timid, non-threatening social prey animals like rabbits would've been a much more likely candidate for early domestication.
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Social structures are just like any other evolutionary process.
They are and they aren't. They differ in that they're the product of brains communicating, and thus subject to memetic evolution, not just genetic evolution. That means that what is advantageous to the meme may survive at the expense of the genetic fitness of the individual.
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Social structures are just like any other evolutionary process.
They are and they aren't. They differ in that they're the product of brains communicating, and thus subject to memetic evolution, not just genetic evolution. That means that what is advantageous to the meme may survive at the expense of the genetic fitness of the individual.
Genetics, in this case, can be indirectly involved. Genetics may provide the underlying tendency for social interaction, but does not dictate the how that will occur.
Animal groups that adopt the advantageous methods of social interaction gain a survival advantage over groups of other animals (perhaps of the same species and genetic makeup) that, for whatever reason, don't adopt the advantageous methods, or less advantageous methods.
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Social structures are just like any other evolutionary process.
They are and they aren't. They differ in that they're the product of brains communicating, and thus subject to memetic evolution, not just genetic evolution. That means that what is advantageous to the meme may survive at the expense of the genetic fitness of the individual.
Genetics, in this case, can be indirectly involved. Genetics may provide the underlying tendency for social interaction, but does not dictate the how that will occur.
It can but it doesn't have to. For example, becoming celibate reduces your fitness to zero, and I've yet to hear of any genetic basis for that choice. Yet some people choose that lifestyle because of their social organization. And as long as there are any viable hosts, these ideas can "survive and procreate" at the expense of the genetic fitness of the individual.
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Humans did, I think, breed for puppies that were plyable.
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Yeah, but I'm guessing the two species approached each other gradually at first, and the breeding probably came later.
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Humans did, I think, breed for puppies that were plyable.
Maybe unintentionally. Any dog (wolf) thought to be dangerous or not cute would have been killed or driven off, the ones the kids like would have been spared.
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For example, becoming celibate reduces your fitness to zero, and I've yet to hear of any genetic basis for that choice.
Evolution is not all about genetics and it's not all about every individual passing their genes to the very next generation.
Let's imagine you're a cave person. You're in a thriving cave village with a hundred families more or less. Your community is so successful that each couple raises an average of four children to child bearing age in your village.
Now, you have males in competition for females and females in competition for males.
Sometimes the competition becomes violent or counter productive in other ways. Also, when all the females are having babies at once, that's removing a number of economic contributors to the village's economics temporarily (and, sadly, sometimes permanently).
But, suppose that 1 of 10 offspring in the village is gay, or lesbian or celibate. Not trying to father children; not getting pregnant. Rather than 10 males competing for the females, there's only 9. Rather than 10 females having babies at once, there's only 9 and the tenth is available to help the others or hunt and gather or otherwise contribute, without causing the conflict that another male would.
It's true that one out of ten won't pass their own genes on, but, having that 10% not in competition with the others, and not giving birth, can make the prospects for the entire village surviving better.
If you have two kids and one is celibate or gay that may increase your chances of passing your genes on to later generations (grandchildren) than if they're both active breeders in competition with each other or having babies at the same time. So, it would be in your genes to pass on a 10% chance of your offspring being gay or celibate.
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You're talking about kin selection, which is about individual genes being passed on to the next generation. It's not a counterexample to evolution being "all about genetics".
EDIT: Also this (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16010468), fwiw, but I'm not sure we can really extrapolate current day data to pre-modern societies. And also, 60 people.
EDIT 2: Full article (https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s10508-005-4345-6).
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(https://i.imgur.com/LtqFWCpl.jpg)
How do we not have a skeptical eyebrow raise smiley on this site?
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Yeah, but I'm guessing the two species approached each other gradually at first, and the breeding probably came later.
Why? The humans would have taken puppies after killing the adults. The neo-dogs would have been weeded, the ones that didn't see humans as their alpha would have been killed. Wolves don't need humans.
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Yeah, but I'm guessing the two species approached each other gradually at first, and the breeding probably came later.
Why? The humans would have taken puppies after killing the adults. The neo-dogs would have been weeded, the ones that didn't see humans as their alpha would have been killed. Wolves don't need humans.
Why not just eat the puppies like they would rabbits and other cute critters? People eat dogs today, so they probably did back then. But wolves get big and dangerous, and they would not be the easiest animals to keep, so why were they the first to be fully domesticated? I think people probably lived in some degree of symbiosis with and recognized the usefulness of wolves to some extent before they started breeding them.
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Nothing to say they wouldn't have eaten the pups if they were hungry. But wolves were introduced to human society, so some of them survived, probably in the pack of a human. Dads still have a soft spot for their kids and like to bring them treats.
When I was in docent training they told us that dogs can be socialized easily during the first two months of life. For wolves the socialization had to happen before they even opened their eyes. (Socializing as in getting used to having humans in their "pack".) A lot of pups would have died before they got the nurturing requirement down, I think.
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Yeah, but I'm guessing the two species approached each other gradually at first, and the breeding probably came later.
Why? The humans would have taken puppies after killing the adults. The neo-dogs would have been weeded, the ones that didn't see humans as their alpha would have been killed. Wolves don't need humans.
Why not just eat the puppies like they would rabbits and other cute critters? People eat dogs today, so they probably did back then. But wolves get big and dangerous, and they would not be the easiest animals to keep, so why were they the first to be fully domesticated? I think people probably lived in some degree of symbiosis with and recognized the usefulness of wolves to some extent before they started breeding them.
I imagine a scenario where someone got themselves a wolf puppy and raised it to adulthood. Everyone in the village thought the person was crazy, but then someone wanted to fight the person with the wolf and the wolf tore out their throat, they realized that it ain't so bad to have your very own wolf. Sure, having a pet wolf is dangerous as hell, but back then it could have been less dangerous to the wolf owner than not having one.
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That kind of wolf would have Darwin'd out. Danger to the community, etc.
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Obviously it's all speculation, and clearly people started raising wolves as part of the family at some point. I just think it's more likely that the initial approach between our species was probably much more gradual. Maybe we scavenged off each other's kills, and that had us follow each other around, which in turn would have lead to more interaction and with that probably improved mutual communication and understanding. And then maybe we started making more use of each other. For example, maybe we learned to recognize each other's warning calls, and perhaps even started cooperating (http://www.sekj.org/PDF/anz41-free/anz41-545.pdf) during the hunt (as some intelligent animals apparently including wolves (https://www.zmescience.com/science/biology/hyena-wolves-hunting-20032016/) and coyotes (https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/blogs/coyote-and-badger-hunt-together) do today), as we have largely complementary hunting skills but similar prey. And then over time we would have become more accustomed to and perhaps dependent on one another, to the point where we'd start helping each other out every once in a while. Maybe some lone wolves would stick close to a camp and beg for a scraps every once in a while, and the people tolerated it because they recognized that wolves can often sense other animals better and earlier than humans can, and that might lead them to opportunity or prevent a disaster.
Anyway, I guess it's not totally impossible given that animals sometimes adopt young from other animals, but I just don't think we were totally separate communities and bitter rivals, and then one day out of the blue someone decided to welcome a dangerous predator into their hut, where their kids are living.
EDIT: The actual fuck happened there? Fixed.
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Yeah every proposed explanation I've seen for how we started living together has been gradual.
Sure, wolves don't need humans (and humans don't need wolves), but so what? Lots of beneficial things are unnecessary and facultative symbiosis is already a thing in nature.
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Yeah every proposed explanation I've seen for how we started living together has been gradual.
Sure, wolves don't need humans (and humans don't need wolves), but so what? Lots of beneficial things are unnecessary and facultative symbiosis is already a thing in nature.
Need is not the best word.
Some wolves gained an advantage by following humans around and some humans gained an advantage by tolerating wolves following them around.
Gradually you end up with a french poodle wearing a pink sweater and having her claws painted.
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Yeah every proposed explanation I've seen for how we started living together has been gradual.
Sure, wolves don't need humans (and humans don't need wolves), but so what? Lots of beneficial things are unnecessary and facultative symbiosis is already a thing in nature.
That's why I've been stressing puppies. Babies and puppies are a match made in Darwinism. ;D
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Yeah every proposed explanation I've seen for how we started living together has been gradual.
Sure, wolves don't need humans (and humans don't need wolves), but so what? Lots of beneficial things are unnecessary and facultative symbiosis is already a thing in nature.
That's why I've been stressing puppies. Babies and puppies are a match made in Darwinism. ;D
There's an evolutionary advantage to young mammals having big eyes. And it's not just due to interaction with humans.
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Yeah every proposed explanation I've seen for how we started living together has been gradual.
Sure, wolves don't need humans (and humans don't need wolves), but so what? Lots of beneficial things are unnecessary and facultative symbiosis is already a thing in nature.
That's why I've been stressing puppies. Babies and puppies are a match made in Darwinism. ;D
I mean, sure, maybe we took in wolf puppies, but there's no need to posit something so frankly bizarre as a common occurrence when a gradual development of facultative symbiosis already explains what it needs to.
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(https://i.imgur.com/yOYfGiC.jpg)
EDIT: Also:
(https://i.imgur.com/I0AgpgK.jpg)
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Yeah every proposed explanation I've seen for how we started living together has been gradual.
Sure, wolves don't need humans (and humans don't need wolves), but so what? Lots of beneficial things are unnecessary and facultative symbiosis is already a thing in nature.
That's why I've been stressing puppies. Babies and puppies are a match made in Darwinism. ;D
I mean, sure, maybe we took in wolf puppies, but there's no need to posit something so frankly bizarre as a common occurrence when a gradual development of facultative symbiosis already explains what it needs to.
Ah, you prefer your bizarre theory over your characterization of my theory as bizarre. Got it.
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The difference is that my "bizzare" "theory" (which isn't a theory at all so much as a defense of the suggestion that it was a gradual process) is actually what I've seen suggested by all the (admittedly not extensive) research I can remember reading about it.
Does your "we took home the puppies of wolves we killed" theory have similar support, or is it just your hunch?
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The difference is that my "bizzare" "theory" (which isn't a theory at all so much as a defense of the suggestion that it was a gradual process) is actually what I've seen suggested by all the (admittedly not extensive) research I can remember reading about it.
Does your "we took home the puppies of wolves we killed" theory have similar support, or is it just your hunch?
Your vague memories are "similar support"? LOL
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(https://i.imgur.com/DUXe3rP.jpg)
You know, in an attempt to find images in the image thread? /passiveaggressiveness
I see wat u did
(https://i.imgflip.com/1c69c2.jpg)
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The difference is that my "bizzare" "theory" (which isn't a theory at all so much as a defense of the suggestion that it was a gradual process) is actually what I've seen suggested by all the (admittedly not extensive) research I can remember reading about it.
Does your "we took home the puppies of wolves we killed" theory have similar support, or is it just your hunch?
Your vague memories are "similar support"? LOL
So you've got nothing. Gotcha.
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The difference is that my "bizzare" "theory" (which isn't a theory at all so much as a defense of the suggestion that it was a gradual process) is actually what I've seen suggested by all the (admittedly not extensive) research I can remember reading about it.
Does your "we took home the puppies of wolves we killed" theory have similar support, or is it just your hunch?
Your vague memories are "similar support"? LOL
So you've got nothing. Gotcha.
Nope, the guy who runs the African painted dog sanctuary in Tanzania told us that puppies are routinely adopted by natives. No reason this didn't happen ~40,000 years ago. And you have...
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Social structures are just like any other evolutionary process.
They are and they aren't. They differ in that they're the product of brains communicating, and thus subject to memetic evolution, not just genetic evolution. That means that what is advantageous to the meme may survive at the expense of the genetic fitness of the individual.
But nothing in genetic evolution prevents genes from surviving at the expense of the the "fitness of the individual." Indeed, it is my understanding that some genes are highly conserved despite being detrimental to fitness as long as they do not impose an actual impediment to reproduction. In that way they are very much like memes: memes and genes both survive by being the strongest genes and memes, not because they make the strongest individuals.
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Nope, the guy who runs the African painted dog sanctuary in Tanzania told us that puppies are routinely adopted by natives. No reason this didn't happen ~40,000 years ago. And you have...
So fully modern humans (who are no doubt well aware of the existence of domestic dogs) will sometimes adopt the puppies of a smaller wild canid species. That doesn't mean the adoption of gray wolf pups frequently enough to affect the evolution of subpopulations of wolves.
(As I understood it, your claim was not simply that ancient humans sometimes adopted wolves, but that this happened enough, with completely wild wolves, to start the genetic changes leading to modern dogs. Your hypothesis contrasted with "the initial approach between our species was probably much more gradual. Maybe we scavenged off each other's kills, and that had us follow each other around")
As for what I have, I'd say all the research and researchers that support the commensal pathway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_domestic_dog#Commensal_pathway) to domestication.
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But nothing in genetic evolution prevents genes from surviving at the expense of the the "fitness of the individual." Indeed, it is my understanding that some genes are highly conserved despite being detrimental to fitness as long as they do not impose an actual impediment to reproduction.
Before we go into that: I think that hints at a misunderstanding of fitness: evolutionary fitness is determined exclusively by your ability to reproduce. Everything else is secondary. It has nothing directly to do with being the strongest in a physical strength or health sense, it has to do with how many copies of yourself (or more specifically, your genes) you can leave behind. Everything else is just what follows from that. So by definition you can't have genes that are detrimental to fitness but not detrimental to your ability to reproduce.
EDIT: To clarify: there's ways to quibble about the exact definition; for example, do you measure fitness as change in gene frequency over one generation, two, or many? But it's always about reproduction. If you can't or haven't and won't reproduce and you are not 100% immortal, your fitness is zero.
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But nothing in genetic evolution prevents genes from surviving at the expense of the the "fitness of the individual." Indeed, it is my understanding that some genes are highly conserved despite being detrimental to fitness as long as they do not impose an actual impediment to reproduction.
Before we go into that: I think that hints at a misunderstanding of fitness: evolutionary fitness is determined exclusively by your ability to reproduce. Everything else is secondary. It has nothing directly to do with being the strongest in a physical strength or health sense, it has to do with how many copies of yourself (or more specifically, your genes) you can leave behind. Everything else is just what follows from that. So by definition you can't have genes that are detrimental to fitness but not detrimental to your ability to reproduce.
EDIT: To clarify: there's ways to quibble about the exact definition; for example, do you measure fitness as change in gene frequency over one generation, two, or many? But it's always about reproduction. If you can't or haven't and won't reproduce and you are not 100% immortal, your fitness is zero.
I don’t think that’s what Darwin meant by fit. I think he meant fit in terms of well adapted to the environment.
And reproduction per se is not primary. It is secondary to survival. Of course.
The point is that there are numerous examples evolutionary advantages to a species for having members that do not reproduce.
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I don’t think that’s what Darwin meant by fit. I think he meant fit in terms of well adapted to the environment.
And reproduction per se is not primary. It is secondary to survival. Of course.
No, it actually isn't. If you can reproduce by dying, that is a viable strategy that numerous species employ. Since nothing is really immortal, reproduction is key.
Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_(biology))
Fitness (often denoted w or ω in population genetics models) is the quantitative representation of natural and sexual selection within evolutionary biology. It can be defined either with respect to a genotype or to a phenotype in a given environment. In either case, it describes individual reproductive success and is equal to the average contribution to the gene pool of the next generation that is made by individuals of the specified genotype or phenotype.
Emphasis mine.
And the blurb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness):
Fitness may refer to:
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Fitness (biology), an individual's ability to propagate its genes
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I don’t think that’s what Darwin meant by fit. I think he meant fit in terms of well adapted to the environment.
And reproduction per se is not primary. It is secondary to survival. Of course.
No, it actually isn't. If you can reproduce by dying, that is a viable strategy that numerous species employ. Since nothing is really immortal, reproduction is key.
This is how Darwin described it:
Survival of the fittest - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_fittest)
In On the Origin of Species, he introduced the phrase in the fifth edition published in 1869,[3][4] intending it to mean "better designed for an immediate, local environment".[5][6]
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The first three sentences from that wikipedia page:
"Survival of the fittest" is a phrase that originated from Darwinian evolutionary theory as a way of describing the mechanism of natural selection. The biological concept of fitness is defined as reproductive success. In Darwinian terms the phrase is best understood as "Survival of the form that will leave the most copies of itself in successive generations."
And a little later:
The biological concept of fitness refers to reproductive success, as opposed to survival, and is not explicit in the specific ways in which organisms can be more "fit" (increase reproductive success) as having phenotypic characteristics that enhance survival and reproduction (which was the meaning that Spencer had in mind).[citation needed]
Critiquing the phrase
While the phrase "survival of the fittest" is often used to mean "natural selection", it is avoided by modern biologists, because the phrase can be misleading. For example, survival is only one aspect of selection, and not always the most important. Another problem is that the word "fit" is frequently confused with a state of physical fitness. In the evolutionary meaning "fitness" is the rate of reproductive output among a class of genetic variants.[13]
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The phrase can also be interpreted to express a theory or hypothesis: that "fit" as opposed to "unfit" individuals or species, in some sense of "fit", will survive some test. Nevertheless, when extended to individuals it is a conceptual mistake, the phrase is a reference to the transgenerational survival of the heritable attributes; particular individuals are quite irrelevant. This becomes more clear when referring to Viral quasispecies, in survival of the flattest, which makes it clear to survive makes no reference to the question of even being alive itself; rather the functional capacity of proteins to carry out work.
Interpretations of the phrase as expressing a theory are in danger of being tautological, meaning roughly "those with a propensity to survive have a propensity to survive"; to have content the theory must use a concept of fitness that is independent of that of survival.[5][14]
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People get the idea that only the "fittest" survive. Lazy thinking. The more fit you are to survive the more likely you will pass on your genes.
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The first three sentences from that wikipedia page:
"Survival of the fittest" is a phrase that originated from Darwinian evolutionary theory as a way of describing the mechanism of natural selection. The biological concept of fitness is defined as reproductive success. In Darwinian terms the phrase is best understood as "Survival of the form that will leave the most copies of itself in successive generations."
And a little later:
The biological concept of fitness refers to reproductive success, as opposed to survival, and is not explicit in the specific ways in which organisms can be more "fit" (increase reproductive success) as having phenotypic characteristics that enhance survival and reproduction (which was the meaning that Spencer had in mind).[citation needed]
Critiquing the phrase
While the phrase "survival of the fittest" is often used to mean "natural selection", it is avoided by modern biologists, because the phrase can be misleading. For example, survival is only one aspect of selection, and not always the most important. Another problem is that the word "fit" is frequently confused with a state of physical fitness. In the evolutionary meaning "fitness" is the rate of reproductive output among a class of genetic variants.[13]
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The phrase can also be interpreted to express a theory or hypothesis: that "fit" as opposed to "unfit" individuals or species, in some sense of "fit", will survive some test. Nevertheless, when extended to individuals it is a conceptual mistake, the phrase is a reference to the transgenerational survival of the heritable attributes; particular individuals are quite irrelevant. This becomes more clear when referring to Viral quasispecies, in survival of the flattest, which makes it clear to survive makes no reference to the question of even being alive itself; rather the functional capacity of proteins to carry out work.
Interpretations of the phrase as expressing a theory are in danger of being tautological, meaning roughly "those with a propensity to survive have a propensity to survive"; to have content the theory must use a concept of fitness that is independent of that of survival.[5][14]
None of that contradicts what I said.
The tautology warned about comes from the more modern definition of fitness
But Darwin was referring to how well a species fit their environments.
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We were discussing how we understand evolution to work today, so I'm not sure how that's relevant.
And with that in mind, to stop derailing this thread; what society thinks we do:
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We were discussing how we understand evolution to work today
Not really. We were discussing human/wolf/dog socialization. From that evolutionary issues arose but those are tangential to the issue.
Darwin’s remarks on fittest and kin selection are more relevant.
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We were discussing how we understand evolution to work today
Not really. We were discussing human/wolf/dog socialization. From that evolutionary issues arose but those are tangential to the issue.
Darwin’s remarks on fittest and kin selection are more relevant.
We have 150 years of theory and empirical research since Darwin. What makes you think that we should just ignore all that here? It's a rhetorical question.
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We were discussing how we understand evolution to work today
Not really. We were discussing human/wolf/dog socialization. From that evolutionary issues arose but those are tangential to the issue.
Darwin’s remarks on fittest and kin selection are more relevant.
We have 150 years of theory and empirical research since Darwin. What makes you think that we should just ignore all that here? It's a rhetorical question.
Because the discussion is less about genetics and more about behavior, and when Darwin was speaking of fittest that was as much about behavior and the environment as anything else.
Again, genetics is only a part of evolution. (An important part, to be sure, but there's much more to it).
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Not if it leads people to argue that we can have higher fitness with lower reproductive value or vice versa, because that is literally a contradiction in terms.
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Not if it leads people to argue that we can have higher fitness with lower reproductive value or vice versa, because that is literally a contradiction in terms.
No one is arguing that.
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Not if it leads people to argue that we can have higher fitness with lower reproductive value or vice versa, because that is literally a contradiction in terms.
No one is arguing that.
Scroll back. That's how we got here.
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Not if it leads people to argue that we can have higher fitness with lower reproductive value or vice versa, because that is literally a contradiction in terms.
No one is arguing that.
Scroll back. That's how we got here.
Quote it and we can talk. I have a feeling we’re talking past each other
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I made a little cannon for my physics teacher. It fires a marble across the room. The marble breaks the current at the "muzzle" of the cannon barrel that is driving an electromagnet that drops a tin lid which is struck by the marble just as it hits the floor. All very cool and the kids are amazed.
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I made a little cannon for my physics teacher. It fires a marble across the room. The marble breaks the current at the "muzzle" of the cannon barrel that is driving an electromagnet that drops a tin lid which is struck by the marble just as it hits the floor. All very cool and the kids are amazed.
I used to be a volunteer at the St. Louis Science Center. We did demonstrations at local school, fairs, etc. We had a "dancing fire" segment that enthralled almost all the kids. (One ran like hell. I made a note to let the teachers know beforehand what we were going to do.)
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Not if it leads people to argue that we can have higher fitness with lower reproductive value or vice versa, because that is literally a contradiction in terms.
No one is arguing that.
Scroll back. That's how we got here.
Quote it and we can talk. I have a feeling we’re talking past each other
Here's what I was reacting to:
But nothing in genetic evolution prevents genes from surviving at the expense of the the "fitness of the individual." Indeed, it is my understanding that some genes are highly conserved despite being detrimental to fitness as long as they do not impose an actual impediment to reproduction.
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Are you talking about things like sickle cell anemia?
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Not if it leads people to argue that we can have higher fitness with lower reproductive value or vice versa, because that is literally a contradiction in terms.
No one is arguing that.
Scroll back. That's how we got here.
Quote it and we can talk. I have a feeling we’re talking past each other
Here's what I was reacting to:
But nothing in genetic evolution prevents genes from surviving at the expense of the the "fitness of the individual." Indeed, it is my understanding that some genes are highly conserved despite being detrimental to fitness as long as they do not impose an actual impediment to reproduction.
I don't think Laninist would want me to explain what he meant there. So I'll just say that's well supported by evolutionary theory.
I believe from your remarks that you're looking at evolution from an oversimplified single generational perspective.
Correct me if this is not an accurate interpretation: you're saying that the gene's that foster individual members of a species to be able to reproduce are carried forward and those that interfere with that are not.
I'm saying that's not always the case. There are numerous examples across numerous species where genes that prevent the ability of some individuals in that species to successfully reproduce are preserved, as the traits and or behaviors associated with those genes help other members of the population to survive and successfully reproduce.
Ants and bees are the most commonly understood examples.
Mammal herds, where larger numbers protect the younger members of the herds, and where a significant number of males in the herd don't pass their genes on is another.
In humans, there seems to be a gene that causes a percentage of the population to be homosexual. (I've heard numbers from 2% to 10%). In this case, the male homosexuals are not in as much competition with other males for females, and are able to devote more of their energy to more productive, survival-related tasks. Similarly the female homosexuals are not burdened with pregnancy and child birth, and the very real risks those posed for survival, and they too are able to be more productive year round.
These are genetic traits that constrict or prevent these individuals from passing their genes on to the next generation, but they are preserved in that they improve the survival prospects of the rest of the population.
A mating couple of paleo humans would have a better chance of passing their genes on to second and third generations if x% of their first generation offspring were homosexual. Subsequent generations of would have that gene. A mating couple of paleo humans who did not have that gay gene would be at an evolutionary disadvantage.
This was mentioned earlier and you dismissed it as kin selection.
It is kin selection, but kin selection is a very broad and complex subject with different impacts across the entire spectrum of life, and acts differently in every species and many subspecies where it's found.
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These are genetic traits that constrict or prevent these individuals from passing their genes on to the next generation, but they are preserved in that they improve the survival prospects of the rest of the population.
No, they are preserved in that they improve the survival to reproduction prospects of other individuals with those same genes.
A dominant infertility gene wouldn't be preserved because individuals with it wouldn't reproduce, even if it greatly improved their survival prospects for the person with the gene *and* for everyone else in the population.
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These are genetic traits that constrict or prevent these individuals from passing their genes on to the next generation, but they are preserved in that they improve the survival prospects of the rest of the population.
No, they are preserved in that they improve the survival to reproduction prospects of other individuals with those same genes.
In some cases they are increasing the survival to reproduction of other individuals with similar genes.
But, no. It is not the case that in a population of anything more complex than bees and ants, and even then, that members of a population has the same genes.
They often have similar genes, but not the same. Mammals born to the same mother can have different fathers, for example.
With complex social interactions found in mammals non-breeding individuals may be contributing to the survival of competing members of their parent's species.
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I made a little cannon for my physics teacher. It fires a marble across the room. The marble breaks the current at the "muzzle" of the cannon barrel that is driving an electromagnet that drops a tin lid which is struck by the marble just as it hits the floor. All very cool and the kids are amazed.
That IS cool!
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I don't think Laninist would want me to explain what he meant there. So I'll just say that's well supported by evolutionary theory.
No, it isn't, unless you redefine fitness. Fitness is reproductive success.
I believe from your remarks that you're looking at evolution from an oversimplified single generational perspective.
Correct me if this is not an accurate interpretation: you're saying that the gene's that foster individual members of a species to be able to reproduce are carried forward and those that interfere with that are not.
I'm saying The Latinist was using the word "fitness" wrong, and his statement is a paradoxical one.
I'm saying that's not always the case. There are numerous examples across numerous species where genes that prevent the ability of some individuals in that species to successfully reproduce are preserved, as the traits and or behaviors associated with those genes help other members of the population to survive and successfully reproduce.
This is not an example of something that is "detrimental to fitness but without imposing an actual impediment to reproduction". It can't be, because fitness is relative reproductive success by definition, as I just showed you several times. And in this case, that's important because if you think of it as anything else, then the theory of evolution makes no mathematical sense and your predictions are going to be wildly mistaken.
EDIT: For example, if you think that fitness is more about survival than reproduction, then animals killing themselves just to get to mates make absolutely no sense. But it makes total sense if fitness is about reproductive success. And of course it happens all the time in nature.
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These are genetic traits that constrict or prevent these individuals from passing their genes on to the next generation, but they are preserved in that they improve the survival prospects of the rest of the population.
No, they are preserved in that they improve the survival to reproduction prospects of other individuals with those same genes.
In some cases they are increasing the survival to reproduction of other individuals with similar genes.
But, no. It is not the case that in a population of anything more complex than bees and ants, and even then, that members of a population has the same genes.
They often have similar genes, but not the same. Mammals born to the same mother can have different fathers, for example.
With complex social interactions found in mammals non-breeding individuals may be contributing to the survival of competing members of their parent's species.
Kin selection can only work if you share a certain percentage of identical genes with someone. Otherwise, it isn't kin selection. It works by increasing the chance that some of your genes make it into the next generation, by helping someone who shares a significant portion of those genes, in other words, by increasing your own fitness. Your kid shares 50% of your genes. Your brother/sister does too. And your brother's/sister's kid shares 25% of your genes. If you are unlikely to be reproductively successful and you can help your family raise 2 kids, then in terms of fitness that is statistically similar to having one of your own.
EDIT: Actually, even if you are reproducing, it can still yield a substantial fitness benefit, but there will be more of a tradeof because your own offspring offer twice the fitness boost.
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It sounds like you guys are slowly working toward an argument about inclusive fitness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusive_fitness):
In evolutionary biology, inclusive fitness is one of two metrics of evolutionary success as defined by W. D. Hamilton in 1964:
- Personal fitness is the number of offspring that an individual begets (regardless of who rescues/rears/supports them)
- Inclusive fitness is the number of offspring equivalents that an individual rears, rescues or otherwise supports through its behaviour (regardless of who begets them)
An individual's own child, who carries one half of the individual's genes, is defined as one offspring equivalent. A sibling's child, who will carry one-quarter of the individual's genes, is 1/2 offspring equivalent. Similarly, a cousin's child, who has 1/16 of the individual's genes, is 1/8 offspring equivalent.
From the gene's point of view, evolutionary success ultimately depends on leaving behind the maximum number of copies of itself in the population. Prior to Hamilton's work, it was generally assumed that genes only achieved this through the number of viable offspring produced by the individual organism they occupied. However, this overlooked a wider consideration of a gene's success, most clearly in the case of the social insects where the vast majority of individuals do not produce offspring.
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They often have similar genes, but not the same. Mammals born to the same mother can have different fathers, for example.
I'm talking about individual genes, or individual genetic traits, not entire genomes.
(You were apparently talking about the same thing, until just now when it became more convenient to move the goalposts.)
A particular gene that lowers the reproductive success of individuals who have it will propagate (its genetic trait will be preserved) only to the extent that it increases the reproductive success of other individuals who also have that exact same gene.
If even a single copy of a gene makes you sterile, even if it makes you live 10x longer than everyone else and even if it somehow lets you guarantee the survival and reproduction of all of your fertile siblings and nieces and nephews and their offspring and so on for twenty generations, that gene that makes you so great and powerful won't propagate because none of the people with that particular gene will ever reproduce.
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Mods, can the evolution discussion be moved to a new thread? I'm sure it's interesting, but it is very very very very very very far from the subject of this thread.
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Mods, can the evolution discussion be moved to a new thread? I'm sure it's interesting, but it is very very very very very very far from the subject of this thread.
Or could we at least have some photos of the domesticated Russia foxes from the Dmitry Belyayev's fox experiment... where they've been breed for domesticity...
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I also want to point out another thing that snuck past me: herd behavior is something different. For that to be kin selection, the herd would have to have an incredibly high degree of genetic homogeneity. Herd behavior is a trait that is advantageous on average for those that have the trait. On the most basic level, it works by greatly reducing the chance that a predator on the hunt will single you out among all the animals in the herd. And of course depending on the behavior it may provide additional protection. So yeah, maybe some gene will lead an adult wildebeest to attack a lion to defend a calf and get itself killed, but those same genes gave it a fighting chance in the first place. The genes raise the individual's chance at a high reproductive success statistically, but chance plays a large role in evolution, and the actual chance event that gets the individual wildebeest killed is obviously not encoded in the genes. In other words, the (statistically anomalous) deleterious behavior is a byproduct of behavior that is highly advantageous, and we shouldn't be hyper-adaptationist and expect it to have some sort of evolutionary advantage in itself. Anyway, the point is: If that specific deleterious behavior was all that was coded for by those specific genes (and the genes weren't somehow piggybacking, like being physically close to other, highly conserved genes), they wouldn't propagate for very long, because they would lower the average fitness of the individuals that carried them, and thus there would be negative selection pressure.
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They often have similar genes, but not the same. Mammals born to the same mother can have different fathers, for example.
I'm talking about individual genes, or individual genetic traits, not entire genomes.
(You were apparently talking about the same thing, until just now when it became more convenient to move the goalposts.)
Wait, what? I didn't move the goal posts. You seem to be ignoring the key point I have been making from the start.
Let me try again. A mating couple (lets say humans) reproduces, and their genes are passed on to the next generation. But if none of the members of that generation fail to reproduce, then that couple's line ends there.
If x% of that couple's offspring do not engage in mating, but instead devote all that energy to hunting, gathering, protecting, nurturing, etc., and zero percent of the females die during childbirth, that enhances the opportunity for the rest of that couple's offspring to survive and reproduce.
The genetic material of the offspring who did not survive is irrelevant. But the genetic makeup of the mating pair, including the x% gay or otherwise not interested in reproduction, will also pass on to the next generation.
A particular gene that lowers the reproductive success of individuals who have it will propagate (its genetic trait will be preserved) only to the extent that it increases the reproductive success of other individuals who also have that exact same gene.
No. That is a one-dimensional (or single generation) way of looking at it. The genes of the parents of reproducing and non-reproducing offspring will be carried through to the next generation by the offspring that reproduce.
That "x% of offspring are sterile" gene will be preserved.
If even a single copy of a gene makes you sterile, even if it makes you live 10x longer than everyone else and even if it somehow lets you guarantee the survival and reproduction of all of your fertile siblings and nieces and nephews and their offspring and so on for twenty generations, that gene that makes you so great and powerful won't propagate because none of the people with that particular gene will ever reproduce.
Again, single generation, on dimensional approach.
If there is a single gene that makes a small percentage of a mating pair's offspring sterile, but for the reasons I've outlined several times now, that enhances the survival of the rest of the offspring, the genes the make that small percentage sterile will be preserved.
Mods, can the evolution discussion be moved to a new thread? I'm sure it's interesting, but it is very very very very very very far from the subject of this thread.
That would be fine with me, I'll go wherever the discussion goes.
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I also want to point out another thing that snuck past me: herd behavior is something different. For that to be kin selection, the herd would have to have an incredibly high degree of genetic homogeneity. Herd behavior is a trait that is advantageous on average for those that have the trait. On the most basic level, it works by greatly reducing the chance that a predator on the hunt will single you out among all the animals in the herd.
No. Predators prey on the weakest individuals. That's basically the very young, the very old, the sick, the injured and the stupid (or unlucky).
A large herd protects the weaker members by sheer numbers. They will trample predators or work together using horns. Zebras use their stripes to confuse the predators.
The larger the herd, the better protection (generally). But too many aggressive males competing for the females can disrupt herds and cause them to split and become weaker. But if x% of the males are not aggressively competing for mates, then the herd can grow a bit larger and provide better protection for the newborns.
And, if that happens that x% of offspring that are not reproducing gene will be preserved.
And it seems you're looking at both kin selection and herd behavior backwards.
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If even a single copy of a gene makes you sterile, even if it makes you live 10x longer than everyone else and even if it somehow lets you guarantee the survival and reproduction of all of your fertile siblings and nieces and nephews and their offspring and so on for twenty generations, that gene that makes you so great and powerful won't propagate because none of the people with that particular gene will ever reproduce.
Again, single generation, on dimensional approach.
If there is a single gene that makes a small percentage of a mating pair's offspring sterile, but for the reasons I've outlined several times now, that enhances the survival of the rest of the offspring, the genes the make that small percentage sterile will be preserved.
The fact that you apparently think this contradicts what I said suggests you're kinda shit at reading.
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But nothing in genetic evolution prevents genes from surviving at the expense of the the "fitness of the individual." Indeed, it is my understanding that some genes are highly conserved despite being detrimental to fitness as long as they do not impose an actual impediment to reproduction.
Before we go into that: I think that hints at a misunderstanding of fitness: evolutionary fitness is determined exclusively by your ability to reproduce. Everything else is secondary. It has nothing directly to do with being the strongest in a physical strength or health sense, it has to do with how many copies of yourself (or more specifically, your genes) you can leave behind. Everything else is just what follows from that. So by definition you can't have genes that are detrimental to fitness but not detrimental to your ability to reproduce.
EDIT: To clarify: there's ways to quibble about the exact definition; for example, do you measure fitness as change in gene frequency over one generation, two, or many? But it's always about reproduction. If you can't or haven't and won't reproduce and you are not 100% immortal, your fitness is zero.
But that's exactly the point: if you are defining it in terms of the chances of reproduction of an individual (as you did in the post I was responding to), a gene may in fact decrease those chances and yet be highly conserved if that gene increases the likelihood of itself being passed on.
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If even a single copy of a gene makes you sterile, even if it makes you live 10x longer than everyone else and even if it somehow lets you guarantee the survival and reproduction of all of your fertile siblings and nieces and nephews and their offspring and so on for twenty generations, that gene that makes you so great and powerful won't propagate because none of the people with that particular gene will ever reproduce.
Again, single generation, on dimensional approach.
If there is a single gene that makes a small percentage of a mating pair's offspring sterile, but for the reasons I've outlined several times now, that enhances the survival of the rest of the offspring, the genes the make that small percentage sterile will be preserved.
The fact that you apparently think this contradicts what I said suggests you're kinda shit at reading.
So you agree that it is correct.
You just disagree that in your posts you said the exact opposite.
Keep your insults to yourself.
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Stealin' that. ;)
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If even a single copy of a gene makes you sterile, even if it makes you live 10x longer than everyone else and even if it somehow lets you guarantee the survival and reproduction of all of your fertile siblings and nieces and nephews and their offspring and so on for twenty generations, that gene that makes you so great and powerful won't propagate because none of the people with that particular gene will ever reproduce.
Again, single generation, on dimensional approach.
If there is a single gene that makes a small percentage of a mating pair's offspring sterile, but for the reasons I've outlined several times now, that enhances the survival of the rest of the offspring, the genes the make that small percentage sterile will be preserved.
The fact that you apparently think this contradicts what I said suggests you're kinda shit at reading.
So you agree that it is correct.
You just disagree that in your posts you said the exact opposite.
Yes, I disagree with your belief that my posts said something they didn't say.
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No. Predators prey on the weakest individuals. That's basically the very young, the very old, the sick, the injured and the stupid (or unlucky).
A large herd protects the weaker members by sheer numbers. They will trample predators or work together using horns. Zebras use their stripes to confuse the predators.
The larger the herd, the better protection (generally).
There's all sorts of secondary reasons why gathering in large groups is advantageous, but the most basic is the numbers game I described. And herd behavior is not necessarily charitable behavior at all. The individual animals in a herd don't band together for the good of the group; they all try to reduce the danger to themselves and maybe their offspring. One of the ways they do this is by pushing in (https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/10.1162/ARTL_a_00206) towards the center (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lambs-on-the-lam-selfish-herd/) of the herd. The herding behavior follows from simple rules like that. Note that pushing yourself to the center of a crowd requires strength and stamina, and the weak are often straggling behind anyway, so they are if anything less protected than the stronger members. This of course is another selection mechanism, but it is not as altruistic as you're describing it. A herd basically works by putting other edibles in the path of predators before they can get to you (and yes, it helps if those edibles are big and strong and have a chance of hurting the predator, but it isn't necessary; think of swarming behavior in mosquitos or a school of guppies).
But too many aggressive males competing for the females can disrupt herds and cause them to split and become weaker.
I suppose that's possible for certain species.
But if x% of the males are not aggressively competing for mates, then the herd can grow a bit larger and provide better protection for the newborns.
And, if that happens that x% of offspring that are not reproducing gene will be preserved.
I can't follow your math or your phrasing very well here. If x% of males do not compete for mates, that does not mean that offspring are x% more likely to survive and reproduce, or that x% of the non-reproducing males' genes then somehow end up in the next generation's gene pool via unrelated offspring that don't share most of their genes. For this kind of argument to work, the genes in question have to be shared. If not, they will be selected against and they will eventually go extinct.
And it seems you're looking at both kin selection and herd behavior backwards.
I'm pretty sure I'm not.
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But nothing in genetic evolution prevents genes from surviving at the expense of the the "fitness of the individual." Indeed, it is my understanding that some genes are highly conserved despite being detrimental to fitness as long as they do not impose an actual impediment to reproduction.
Before we go into that: I think that hints at a misunderstanding of fitness: evolutionary fitness is determined exclusively by your ability to reproduce. Everything else is secondary. It has nothing directly to do with being the strongest in a physical strength or health sense, it has to do with how many copies of yourself (or more specifically, your genes) you can leave behind. Everything else is just what follows from that. So by definition you can't have genes that are detrimental to fitness but not detrimental to your ability to reproduce.
EDIT: To clarify: there's ways to quibble about the exact definition; for example, do you measure fitness as change in gene frequency over one generation, two, or many? But it's always about reproduction. If you can't or haven't and won't reproduce and you are not 100% immortal, your fitness is zero.
But that's exactly the point: if you are defining it in terms of the chances of reproduction of an individual (as you did in the post I was responding to), a gene may in fact decrease those chances and yet be highly conserved if that gene increases the likelihood of itself being passed on.
I think I see what you're saying now, but the wording was a bit confusing. If the genes (statistically) raise the inclusive fitness of an individual, then yes, they can be conserved even if they reduce individual fitness to 0, or even selected for, provided the benefit to inclusive fitness is enough to overcome the negative selection pressure.
And like I said before, there are some situations in which mildly deleterious genes are more highly conserved than you would expect; for instance if they are physically close to another, highly conserved gene, or if they can be carried as recessive genes or silent mutations in a significant portion of the population (which is proportional to the strength of the negative selection pressure, iirc scratch that, I'm fuzzy on the details).
And of course, genes can have many effects (pleiotropy), rather than just one, so it may yield a statistical benefit overall while still having disastrous side effects in some relatively rare situations.
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Awesome!
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Is the raw data available for download?
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Meh, not that impressive. Probably cause the photo was taken from too far away. It probably looks pretty cool up close.
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That raises a lot of questions about what male genitals are for, if thousands of generations of reproduction don't count as successes...
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Meh, not that impressive. Probably cause the photo was taken from too far away. It probably looks pretty cool up close.
You'd have a looooong time to enjoy the view. ;)
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That raises a lot of questions about what male genitals are for, if thousands of generations of reproduction don't count as successes...
I guess we came full circle with the genetics discussion.
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Meh, not that impressive. Probably cause the photo was taken from too far away. It probably looks pretty cool up close.
I mean, it's only the first direct image of a the event horizon of a black hole ever and the first ever direct visual confirmation that black holes actually exist. This is resolving a relatively small structure (smaller than the orbit of Pluto) in another galaxy 55 million light years away. It's amazing we can discern any structure at all.
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I know, that was a joke. It's not a good idea to get a close up of a black hole.
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I know, that was a joke. It's not a good idea to get a close up of a black hole.
Oh yeah, sorry, I needed to change the filter on my sarcasm meter. Carry on.
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(smaller than the orbit of Pluto)
Not quite
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Ah, interesting, I guess the article I read had it wrong.
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Ah, interesting, I guess the article I read had it wrong.
Not if this is correct.
https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso1907a/ (https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso1907a/)
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Ah, interesting, I guess the article I read had it wrong.
Not if this is correct.
https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso1907a/ (https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso1907a/)
That article says 40 billion km across. The orbit of Pluto is about 15 billion km across.
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(smaller than the orbit of Pluto)
We must keep in mind that the shadow that we see in the picture, does NOT correspond to the size of the black hole. The radius of the shadow is 2.6 times bigger than the black hole itself... so yes, it could be "just" the size of the orbit of Pluto.
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(smaller than the orbit of Pluto)
We must keep in mind that the shadow that we see in the picture, does NOT correspond to the size of the black hole. The radius of the shadow is 2.6 times bigger than the black hole itself... so yes, it could be "just" the size of the orbit of Pluto.
That was my initial reaction to the discussion, and it wasn't clear from the articles I read whether 40 billion kilometers was the diameter of the event horizon or of the shadow. But since the mass of the black hole is given as 6.5 billion solar masses, the Schwarzschild radius can be calculated at ~19 billion kilometers. The diameter of the black hole is then 38 billion kilometers, and the diameter of its shadow 100 billion km.
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(https://preview.redd.it/vvojnjuzrkr21.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=63b9e48f3dbf493b2220c977ce8283f140a80971)
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https://youtu.be/DG2esWiRe0s
At time of posting the video was not available on YouTube proper, but the embedded version played fine.
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(https://image.ibb.co/eTxWRd/uranus.jpg)
Still 5 years old.
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(https://arstechnica.com/civis/download/file.php?id=44393)
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Wow. That’s kind of amazing.
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APOD: SpaceX Falcon Heavy Launch, a bit closer than I like.
(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1904/SpaceXFalconHeavy11Apr.jpg)
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I feel this is somehow relevant to this thread:
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bad_opinions.png)
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And on that note:
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/96f3fa6ac91e7be3d3e1c1a825b9abf7/tumblr_peykxyqs5H1vaqoiqo1_400.gif)
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(https://pics.me.me/6-022-x-1023-6-022-x-1023-6-022-x-1023-6-022-18094543.png)
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(https://i.redd.it/bxpqqa6rkcv11.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ugvrLXcl.jpg)
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oops
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(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5977201664/h27EBAB02/)
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The feet seem like the smallest part.
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https://twitter.com/_DanielSinclair/status/1121252893586276352
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWPFmdAWRZ0
Still among the best stuff ever.
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(https://i.imgur.com/UBSHYfQ.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/eM9GQIfl.jpg)
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"Yeah, but..."
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Our home Laniakea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laniakea_Supercluster):
(https://26d3ia2o0l581y7l752i7a5k-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Laniakea.png)
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Portuguese man-o-space?
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More like one of those optical-fibre lamps that were popular in the 80s.
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https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1118438671538118656
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Virtual flyby of the Whirlpool Galaxy. From APOD. https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap190506.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fScrm9XeI3o&list=PLz-FsX8E3MzKvmk1fBt1MUa24vf6SFilO&index=5
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Little ole EF-1. Ain't no big deal.
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Correlation ≠ Causation
(https://i.imgur.com/Efi8Y7u.jpg)
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I think you missed something. There are NO MARTIANS ALIVE TODAY! Ponder that.
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Correlation ≠ Causation
...but it's suggestive.
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Correlation ≠ Causation
...but it's suggestive.
That's the problem!
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(https://i.imgur.com/bGpN2pv.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/bGpN2pv.jpg)
Um, no, that kid had your genes too. ::)
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It's a somewhat flawed argument, but it made me laugh anyway.
(https://i.imgur.com/MAvIM8N.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/Iy6ABbQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dNelTSd.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/wyMWGsll.jpg)
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It's a somewhat flawed argument, but it made me laugh anyway.
Not only is he a libertarian, he's a full-on Ayn Rand Objectivist. Or at least he used to be before he got skinny. I don't know if he still is.
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It's a somewhat flawed argument, but it made me laugh anyway.
Not only is he a libertarian, he's a full-on Ayn Rand Objectivist...
...and an eager swallower of Cato bullshit on climate change. He is an object lesson for all skeptics lest they get too smug about how woo-woo proof they are.
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It's a somewhat flawed argument, but it made me laugh anyway.
Not only is he a libertarian, he's a full-on Ayn Rand Objectivist...
...and an eager swallower of Cato bullshit on climate change. He is an object lesson for all skeptics lest they get too smug about how woo-woo proof they are.
He made some fairly ignorant comments at TAM6, which people called him out on, so he made some further statements at TAM7 (I was there) which pretty much retracted all of them. I'd be pretty surprise if he still believed that climate change isn't real.
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It's a somewhat flawed argument, but it made me laugh anyway.
Not only is he a libertarian, he's a full-on Ayn Rand Objectivist...
...and an eager swallower of Cato bullshit on climate change. He is an object lesson for all skeptics lest they get too smug about how woo-woo proof they are.
Yeah... If I'm not mistaken, he is or was actually a fellow at Cato. My info there might be a little out of date as I kind of gave up on that duo after reading about that while I was delving into climate science. Sacred cows, I guess.
Somehow it's never the werecows, though. }|:ó(
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Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_Jillette) does say that he is still a fellow at the Cato Institute.
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(https://i.imgur.com/VVulJqY.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg-1_CEwP_I
(Note, it is about the entire species and planet.)
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https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap190524.html
Boulders on Bennu
Image Credit: NASA, Goddard Space Flight Center, University of Arizona
Explanation: An abundance of boulders litters the surface asteroid 101955 Bennu in this dramatic close-up from the OSIRIS-REx spacecraft. Taken on March 28 from a distance of just 3.4 kilometers (2.1 miles) the field of view is about 50 meters across while the light colored boulder at top right is 4.8 meters tall. Likely a loose conglomerate rubble pile asteroid, Bennu itself spans less than 500 meters. That's about the height of the Empire State Building. Mapping the near Earth asteroid since the spacecraft's arrival in December of 2018, the OSIRIS-REx mission plans a TAG (Touch-and-Go) maneuver for July 2020 to sample Bennu's rugged surface, returning the sample to planet Earth in September 2023. Citizen scientists have been invited to help choose the sample collection site.
(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1905/pdco-20190328-up-slope-to-limb.jpg)
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I've been wondering is that loose rocks and boulders on the surface, or is it loose rocks and boulders all the way down?
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(https://i.imgur.com/nECnCXD.jpg)
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I've been wondering is that loose rocks and boulders on the surface, or is it loose rocks and boulders all the way down?
Either way or something in-between.
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How much gravity would it take to crush a random collection of rocks into a solid core?
And why are they rocks anyway?
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How much gravity would it take to crush a random collection of rocks into a solid core?
And why are they rocks anyway?
How much of a disturbance would it take to break up a random collection of rocks?
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How much gravity would it take to crush a random collection of rocks into a solid core?
And why are they rocks anyway?
How much of a disturbance would it take to break up a random collection of rocks?
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Sorry, I wasn't clear.
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Just a guess, but it might be like dust accumulation on a bigger scale. The dust on the surface is always loose, but as more dust gets piled on top, the aggregate weight from above causes the inner material to be compressed tighter and tighter into a solid mass.
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And why are they rocks anyway?
What else would they be?
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And why are they rocks anyway?
What else would they be?
(https://i.imgur.com/LaByhV0.png)
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And why are they rocks anyway?
What else would they be?
Not rocks.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7cnKeZWwAEhSx9.jpg)
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A Solar Prominence Eruption from SDO (https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap190526.html)
Image Credit & Copyright: NASA/Goddard/SDO AIA Team
Explanation: One of the most spectacular solar sights is an erupting prominence. In 2011, NASA's Sun-orbiting Solar Dynamic Observatory spacecraft imaged an impressively large prominence erupting from the surface. The dramatic explosion was captured in ultraviolet light in the featured time lapse video covering 90 minutes, where a new frame was taken every 24 seconds. The scale of the prominence is huge -- the entire Earth would easily fit under the flowing curtain of hot gas. A solar prominence is channeled and sometimes held above the Sun's surface by the Sun's magnetic field. A quiescent prominence typically lasts about a month, and may erupt in a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) expelling hot gas into the Solar System. The energy mechanism that creates a solar prominence is still a topic of research. After our Sun passes the current Solar Minimum, solar activity like eruptive prominences are expected to become more common over the next few years.
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I've been wondering is that loose rocks and boulders on the surface, or is it loose rocks and boulders all the way down?
The quoted excerpt describes it as "likely a loose conglomerate rubble pile asteroid".
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I've been wondering is that loose rocks and boulders on the surface, or is it loose rocks and boulders all the way down?
The quoted excerpt describes it as "likely a loose conglomerate rubble pile asteroid".
Cool. Having a time with my eyes these days. >:(
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PoisedWholeAtlanticridleyturtle-mobile.mp4
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https://youtu.be/OTcdutIcEJ4
Maybe more of a commercial than science, but still...
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Actually, I think this guy was first...
https://youtu.be/SND3v0i9uhE
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(https://i.imgur.com/l5XUNkT.jpg)
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Those names should not be blocked. Those people need to be educated.
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(https://i.imgur.com/qlZfFfp.jpg)
Fuck the medical industrial complex, I'LL be the one to decide how many hours my boner should last.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBikbn5XJhg
Absolutely fantastic! Among the best spent 10 minutes on Youtube in a long while!
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I got a couple of minutes into it before I couldn’t take it any more. It’s just a montage of space clips having nothing at all really to do with the eras they’re supposed to represent and missing out on all of the most important events at least in the early universe. And its depiction of the Big Bang was insulting.
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I got a couple of minutes into it before I couldn’t take it any more. It’s just a montage of space clips having nothing at all really to do with the eras they’re supposed to represent and missing out on all of the most important events at least in the early universe. And its depiction of the Big Bang was insulting.
The opening credit sequence for "The Big Bang Theory" was better.
This is not time lapse. That would have been interesting. This wasn't.
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Well it wasn't really a time lapse, but I enjoyed the visuals and I appreciate the idea behind it.
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Well it wasn't really a time lapse, but I enjoyed the visuals and I appreciate the idea behind it.
I can't please everyone I suppose. ;)
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Perhaps if I knew less about the history of the universe I could have just appreciated the pretty pictures.
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Then please us fill in with more accurate, educational stuff.
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Perhaps go back and film it?
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How about something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwTOusEsR4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcp6nSCw9mU
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I will check them out, thanks John Albert! :)
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/The_New_England_Skeptical_Society.jpg/800px-The_New_England_Skeptical_Society.jpg)
CSICOP conference in 1997.
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The opening credit sequence for "The Big Bang Theory" was better.
The best:
https://youtu.be/4tSQVKlgVJ4
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(https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_hv9MtcmDGw4pLQUC5yBEvAc5zzO3x9jp.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/AQCbraG.jpg)
@SteffenMalskaer got the difficult task of retrieving our oceanographic moorings and weather station on sea ice in North West Greenland this year. Rapid melt and sea ice with low permeability and few cracks leaves the melt water on top.
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The classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9RFIR_XoAADS5J.jpg)
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1906/AnalemmaSunset.jpg)
<a href="https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/">
Astronomy Picture of the Day</a>
Explanation: Today, the solstice is at 15:54 Universal Time, the Sun reaching the northernmost declination in its yearly journey through planet Earth's sky. A June solstice marks the astronomical beginning of summer in the northern hemisphere and winter in the south. It also brings the north's longest day, the longest period between sunrise and sunset. In fact the June solstice sun is near the top, at the most northern point in the analemma or figure 8 curve traced by the position of the Sun in this composite photo. The analemma was created (video) from images taken every 10 days at the same time from June 21, 2018 and June 7, 2019. The time was chosen to be the year's earliest sunset near the December solstice, so the analemma's lowest point just kisses the unobstructed sea horizon at the left. Sunsets arranged along the horizon toward the right (north) are centered on the sunset at the September equinox and end with sunset at the June solstice.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Ruyoqqw.png)
Any idea what they were thinking with those continents?
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That is bizarre, not only because of the geographic impossibility of the image but because in those particular continents its the first day of winter.
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They're talking about the thawing of the Arctic, I suspect. Tropical North Pole.
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They're talking about the thawing of the Arctic, I suspect. Tropical North Pole.
If that’s what they’re going for, why are the continents they show Africa and Australia (and in a geographically impossible relation to each other)?
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They're talking about the thawing of the Arctic, I suspect. Tropical North Pole.
Continental drift?
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They're talking about the thawing of the Arctic, I suspect. Tropical North Pole.
If that’s what they’re going for, why are the continents they show Africa and Australia (and in a geographically impossible relation to each other)?
Lazy artist syndrome, I believe.
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(https://scontent-gru2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64992289_2564582390227170_4502676862236884992_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_eui2=AeFsN2NJes9pGcf1GdsQn0VrDR_ZWDsqrNSCc7rx4Lk7qWlKGgvVi1R2mJXzcGx_rT2skLuNC2E40LcaYJ1mcLSYTpVqHXciqvrwprgRwWAvVg&_nc_oc=AQmAijQFT9RT5uxt7Se4WcfvYW2SJXQoT5Kz0YnkZSidMMc95rbzXHeI6P8sdz4ztT0&_nc_ht=scontent-gru2-2.xx&oh=2d67844d8111cbf8d07c50aea5c4a09e&oe=5D87FEFE)
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They're talking about the thawing of the Arctic, I suspect. Tropical North Pole.
If that’s what they’re going for, why are the continents they show Africa and Australia (and in a geographically impossible relation to each other)?
My guess is that's a poor man's South America, not Africa.
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(https://i.imgur.com/0Zij9Er.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sxCuCfX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fnSXKgS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HOtm4y5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/frauhLX.jpg)
https://boingboing.net/2018/03/28/robbie-barrats-ai-generated.html
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Some "art" generated without an "I" at all. ::)
(https://d7hftxdivxxvm.cloudfront.net/?resize_to=width&src=https%3A%2F%2Fartsy-media-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2FieQd3W1nbyP-ILgwnWtUSQ%252F4088303823_2ae5d0cc73_o.jpg&width=1200&quality=80)
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This is Fountain by Marcel Duchamp, one of the most important pieces in the history of art. The point of this piece is to settle a debate about the definition of art by proving the theory that any object, even mundane, unmodified found objects, can be art if they're presented as art.
It's generally accepted among artists and collectors, that the highest purpose of art is to elicit opinions and invite discussion. When Duchamp turned a urinal on its side and presented it in the context of an art piece, that elicited very strong opinions and invited vigorous discussion. Hence, the urinal serves the same basic purpose as some fine object explicitly created for the same purpose. Because the juxtaposed object is functionally indistinguishable from art, it is art.
The fact that we're still posting photos, and discussing and debating this piece over 100 years later, is proof that Duchamp was correct.
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The point of this piece is to settle a debate about the definition of art by proving the theory that any object, even mundane, unmodified found objects, can be art if they're presented as art.
And that's bullshit.
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The point of this piece is to settle a debate about the definition of art by proving the theory that any object, even mundane, unmodified found objects, can be art if they're presented as art.
And that's bullshit.
No, it really is not. Fountain was originally submitted in 1917 for a Paris exhibition of the Société des Artistes Indépendants (Society of Independent Artists). Duchamp himself said the purpose of the piece was to test the boundaries of what the museum directors would consider art, in order to gauge their commitment to free expression. He was motivated to do this because 5 years earlier he'd had a painting (Nude Descending a Staircase No. 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_Descending_a_Staircase,_No._2#/media/File:Duchamp_-_Nude_Descending_a_Staircase.jpg), which eventually became his most famous) removed from exhibit after an unfavorable response.
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(https://i.imgur.com/0Zij9Er.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sxCuCfX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fnSXKgS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HOtm4y5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/frauhLX.jpg)
https://boingboing.net/2018/03/28/robbie-barrats-ai-generated.html
Neural networks are pretty good at recognizing things nowadays, but abstract expressionism is not something they typically excel at. I'm kind of curious how this was done.
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That is bizarre, not only because of the geographic impossibility of the image but because in those particular continents its the first day of winter.
That and the "e" in "Google" isn't tidally locked so there is no way it would line up like that in space.
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The point of this piece is to settle a debate about the definition of art by proving the theory that any object, even mundane, unmodified found objects, can be art if they're presented as art.
And that's bullshit.
No, it really is not. Fountain was originally submitted in 1917 for a Paris exhibition of the Société des Artistes Indépendants (Society of Independent Artists). Duchamp himself said the purpose of the piece was to test the boundaries of what the museum directors would consider art, in order to gauge their commitment to free expression. He was motivated to do this because 5 years earlier he'd had a painting (Nude Descending a Staircase No. 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_Descending_a_Staircase,_No._2#/media/File:Duchamp_-_Nude_Descending_a_Staircase.jpg), which eventually became his most famous) removed from exhibit after an unfavorable response.
Still BULLSHIT.
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The point of this piece is to settle a debate about the definition of art by proving the theory that any object, even mundane, unmodified found objects, can be art if they're presented as art.
And that's bullshit.
No, it really is not. Fountain was originally submitted in 1917 for a Paris exhibition of the Société des Artistes Indépendants (Society of Independent Artists). Duchamp himself said the purpose of the piece was to test the boundaries of what the museum directors would consider art, in order to gauge their commitment to free expression. He was motivated to do this because 5 years earlier he'd had a painting (Nude Descending a Staircase No. 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_Descending_a_Staircase,_No._2#/media/File:Duchamp_-_Nude_Descending_a_Staircase.jpg), which eventually became his most famous) removed from exhibit after an unfavorable response.
Still BULLSHIT.
Not only do I agree that it's bullshit, but I think Duchamp himself would agree.
It was intended as an insult and a deliberate affront, and, had it not been for the critics at the time, would have been dismissed and forgotten as such.
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It is a celebration of public sanitation, one of mankind's greatest accomplishments.
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And this is how Elon Musk's Starlink is ruining astronomy... And thats just 60 satellites. Imagine the whole 12,000 constellation of Starlink + 10,000 from the OneWeb.... There would be more moving lights in the night sky than stationary stars...
(https://fsmedia.imgix.net/28/2e/58/1c/51f5/4b92/bf6b/a253637cb755/trails-of-the-starlink-satellites-taken-with-a-long-exposure.jpeg?crop=edges&fit=crop&auto=format%2Ccompress&h=1200&w=1200)
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The point of this piece is to settle a debate about the definition of art by proving the theory that any object, even mundane, unmodified found objects, can be art if they're presented as art.
And that's bullshit.
No, it really is not. Fountain was originally submitted in 1917 for a Paris exhibition of the Société des Artistes Indépendants (Society of Independent Artists). Duchamp himself said the purpose of the piece was to test the boundaries of what the museum directors would consider art, in order to gauge their commitment to free expression. He was motivated to do this because 5 years earlier he'd had a painting (Nude Descending a Staircase No. 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_Descending_a_Staircase,_No._2#/media/File:Duchamp_-_Nude_Descending_a_Staircase.jpg), which eventually became his most famous) removed from exhibit after an unfavorable response.
Still BULLSHIT.
Not only do I agree that it's bullshit, but I think Duchamp himself would agree.
It was intended as an insult and a deliberate affront, and, had it not been for the critics at the time, would have been dismissed and forgotten as such.
What's your evidence it was intended as an insult? Who are you to speak on behalf of Marcel Duchamp? Duchamp himself said he submitted it under a pseudonym because he did not want his established reputation to affect their judgment.
But the truth may be stranger still. More recently, a letter by Marcel Duchamp was discovered which appears to indicate he was not even the submitter of Fountain. According to the letter, the "ready-made" (found object) had actually been submitted by one Baroness Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven, a lesser-known artist whom Duchamp knew well.
Regardless, the identity of the submitter and their intentions are irrelevant to the conceptual value of the piece. The fact that it has stimulated such vigorous debate and acclaim over the past 100 years is proof that it is not only art, but an example of the best kind of art.
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Didn't say it wasn't art.
I did say it was bullshit.
Bullshit can be art too.
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That's so sad.
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What's your evidence it was intended as an insult? Who are you to speak on behalf of Marcel Duchamp? Duchamp himself said he submitted it under a pseudonym because he did not want his established reputation to affect their judgment.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/3671180/Duchamps-Fountain-The-practical-joke-that-launched-an-artistic-revolution.html
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(https://thoughtcatalog.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine-if-yoursquore-having-a-rational-discussion.jpg)
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What's your evidence it was intended as an insult? Who are you to speak on behalf of Marcel Duchamp? Duchamp himself said he submitted it under a pseudonym because he did not want his established reputation to affect their judgment.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/3671180/Duchamps-Fountain-The-practical-joke-that-launched-an-artistic-revolution.html
That's not evidence that the piece was intended as an insult. That article doesn't even say it was an insult. The article says it was a practical joke. Even if it did say the piece was intended as an insult, the uncited opinion of a journalist is only speculation, not evidence of Duchamp's true intentions.
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(https://i.imgur.com/tyswBBR.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/tyswBBR.jpg)
I believe that’s a riff from the New Testament, but I can’t sure chapter and verse.
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It's a riff on the "I studied the Blade (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-studied-the-blade)" meme.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Carl_Sagan_1951.png)
Have you heard of this guy? Photo from 1951.
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I'm terrible at facial recognition but that I had no trouble recognising that one instantly.
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Mr. Rogers?
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Mr. Rogers?
Please hand over your nerd badge.
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Mr. Rogers?
Please hand over your nerd badge.
j/k
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Dude, it's Carl fuckin' Sagan.
Come on now.
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(https://i.imgur.com/UAtCu7p.jpg)
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My favorite are always the Nazca lines, because if there were actually flying aliens telling people where to make the lines, they did a really poor job of it.
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Dude, it's Carl fuckin' Sagan.
Come on now.
I watched "Cosmos" the first time through. I knew it was Carl, the pizza guy confirmed it.
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(https://i.imgur.com/dSBDJrD.jpg)
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Wow, you guys really think a lot about skin color.
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Wow, you guys really think a lot about skin color.
Just because you choose to ignore the fact that "it was aliens" hypotheses always seem to be most popular with things built outside of Europe doesn't mean we think an excessive amount about skin color.
It may just mean you choose to ignore too much.
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Wow, you guys really think a lot about skin color.
Just because you choose to ignore the fact that "it was aliens" hypotheses always seem to be most popular with things built outside of Europe doesn't mean we think an excessive amount about skin color.
It may just mean you choose to ignore too much.
Yeah, that's the point of the joke.
ET intervention is usually invoked to explain the sacred structures of ancient "primitive cultures" who lacked the sophisticated intellectual achievements of the Europeans. As if those cultures were just too stupid to have figured out how to stack big rocks.
Stonehenge is the only European structure that regularly gets attributed to aliens.
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Fair enough, mostly at least.
I don't think ancient Egypt was ever regarded as primitive, though. The Greeks and Romans were impressed, and they considered it an ancient land, and rightly so, as that culture arose millennia before ancient Greek culture and ancient Roman culture.
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This is Fountain by Marcel Duchamp, one of the most important pieces in the history of art. The point of this piece is to settle a debate about the definition of art by proving the theory that any object, even mundane, unmodified found objects, can be art if they're presented as art.
It's generally accepted among artists and collectors, that the highest purpose of art is to elicit opinions and invite discussion. When Duchamp turned a urinal on its side and presented it in the context of an art piece, that elicited very strong opinions and invited vigorous discussion. Hence, the urinal serves the same basic purpose as some fine object explicitly created for the same purpose. Because the juxtaposed object is functionally indistinguishable from art, it is art.
The fact that we're still posting photos, and discussing and debating this piece over 100 years later, is proof that Duchamp was correct.
Piss off.
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Wow, you guys really think a lot about skin color.
Just because you choose to ignore the fact that "it was aliens" hypotheses always seem to be most popular with things built outside of Europe doesn't mean we think an excessive amount about skin color.
It may just mean you choose to ignore too much.
Yeah, that's the point of the joke.
ET intervention is usually invoked to explain the sacred structures of ancient "primitive cultures" who lacked the sophisticated intellectual achievements of the Europeans. As if those cultures were just too stupid to have figured out how to stack big rocks.
Stonehenge is the only European structure that regularly gets attributed to aliens.
Yeah, but, in fairness, before we put it all down to racism, what other well known European structures are there that are as impressive as the ones typically attributed to aliens?
(And also, most European structures would not look "alien" to westerners in the way that pyramids do.)
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Stonehenge is the only European structure that regularly gets attributed to aliens.
The Pickle comes in second, right?
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Stonehenge is the only European structure that regularly gets attributed to aliens.
The Pickle comes in second, right?
I don't get it.
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Stonehenge is the only European structure that regularly gets attributed to aliens.
The Pickle comes in second, right?
I don't get it.
The Pickle.
(https://inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/08/Foster-Partners-gherkin31.jpg)
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The Pickle.
(https://inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/08/Foster-Partners-gherkin31.jpg)
https://squirrelmunk.com/2017/11/26/the-elements-of-good-butt-plug-design/ (NSFW)
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Now you get it. ;D
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(https://i.imgur.com/9tgdnKI.png)
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The Pickle.
(https://inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/08/Foster-Partners-gherkin31.jpg)
https://squirrelmunk.com/2017/11/26/the-elements-of-good-butt-plug-design/ (NSFW)
It's called The Gherkin ;)
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Bloody colonials.
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I have to admit, it's a cool-looking building.
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I have to admit, it's a cool-looking building.
Jane Foster had a date there when Thor was off-planet. (It's complicated.)
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Jane Foster had a date there when Thor was off-planet. (It's complicated.)
Sorry, I'm not well-versed on the MCU lore.
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Jane Foster had a date there when Thor was off-planet. (It's complicated.)
Sorry, I'm not well-versed on the MCU lore.
It's certainly not the most important thing to know these days. ;)
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Jane Foster had a date there when Thor was off-planet. (It's complicated.)
Sorry, I'm not well-versed on the MCU lore.
It's certainly not the most important thing to know these days. ;)
Was that the second one? With the big finale at Greenwich? That little joke they put in on the London Underground during the last act is so bad I can't watch the film... it's even worse than the London Underground scene from Skyfall...
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The first video is the SGU edition (with appropriate visuals), in the second video Carl Sagan applies the concept to UFOs/aliens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI1tA6RxGcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5gw_slOxcY
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Jane Foster had a date there when Thor was off-planet. (It's complicated.)
Sorry, I'm not well-versed on the MCU lore.
It's certainly not the most important thing to know these days. ;)
Was that the second one? With the big finale at Greenwich? That little joke they put in on the London Underground during the last act is so bad I can't watch the film... it's even worse than the London Underground scene from Skyfall...
Yeah, "Thor: Dark World."
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Interesting PBS video on thorium salt reactors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElulEJruhRQ
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Interesting PBS video on thorium salt reactors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElulEJruhRQ
Interesting. I’ve been reading on this. There is metallurgy work needed but they have great potential for mass use.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-mcUbEZpA
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(https://i.redd.it/0kvz7p5l1f131.png)
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(https://i.redd.it/0kvz7p5l1f131.png)
This is pretty interesting. What I'd also like to see:
Other news outlets (Local TV; Fox News; Local Newspapers - especially mine)
The same chart broken down with the causes of death of people younger than 70; 60; 50, etc.
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Interesting... more Kiwis kill themselves than are killed on the road.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1150397159390482432
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To be precise, Eratosthenes or other Greeks did not figure out that the Earth was not flat, as that was already known, and known among many cultures. What he did was measuring the circumference of the Earth with a high degree of accuracy.
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(https://i.imgur.com/pOWKOOB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8YOODPi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c4Z1t3z.jpg)
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Mormon missions seem to cement the faith or turn the missionaries into atheists.
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(https://i.imgur.com/pOWKOOB.jpg)
All of that could be also said about politics. Except canvasing has a much better success rate.
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Also except political parties don't make canvassing a condition of membership.
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The lesson here can be applied in many domains and to varying degrees, yes.
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(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/modified_bayes_theorem.png)
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(https://i.redd.it/6lmyf3ux19b31.jpg)
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Take a look at Lake Kaindy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Kaindy) in Kazakhstan. This lake was actually formed in 1911 after an earthquake, so it is by geological time very recent. As a result of this, it has an underwater forest.
(https://www.lakescientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/lake-kaindy-2.jpg)
(https://img1.goodfon.com/wallpaper/nbig/4/a9/ozero-kaindy-utonuvshiy-les.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/52/39/be5239db0eb4123e043c9a180a049d64.jpg)
(https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/lake-kaindy-underwater.jpg)
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/nintchdbpict000307139396.jpg)
I had never heard about this lake until a few weeks ago, and I found it very fascinating.
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This is where petrified wood comes from. Give it a couple million years.
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This is where petrified wood comes from. Give it a couple million years.
Only if the submerged tree trunks are covered with sediments before the wood rots away:
https://geology.com/stories/13/petrified-wood/
The fact that it hasn’t happened in the 118 years since the lake formed in 1911 suggests it won’t happen.
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This is where petrified wood comes from. Give it a couple million years.
Only if the submerged tree trunks are covered with sediments before the wood rots away:
https://geology.com/stories/13/petrified-wood/
The fact that it hasn’t happened in the 118 years since the lake formed in 1911 suggests it won’t happen.
Give it a couple million years. You have no way of knowing how much of the wood is already covered by sediment so far. Nor do you know how long it will take the exposed wood to rot.
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This is where petrified wood comes from. Give it a couple million years.
Only if the submerged tree trunks are covered with sediments before the wood rots away:
https://geology.com/stories/13/petrified-wood/
The fact that it hasn’t happened in the 118 years since the lake formed in 1911 suggests it won’t happen.
Give it a couple million years. You have no way of knowing how much of the wood is already covered by sediment so far. Nor do you know how long it will take the exposed wood to rot.
Yes, but archaeologists do have an idea about how quickly submerged wood rots, based on the degree of preservation of marine wrecks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)
The Vasa wreck is mainly oak. I don’t know what sort of trees are submerged in the lake. If they’re soft wood, I’d imagine they’d rot more quickly.
It is an interesting question as to whether the submerged trees will fossilise. I’d imagine that it would be rare process, going on the fact that most dead animals or plants don’t fossilise, or if they do, are destroyed by natural processes before they’re discovered.
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This is where petrified wood comes from. Give it a couple million years.
Only if the submerged tree trunks are covered with sediments before the wood rots away:
https://geology.com/stories/13/petrified-wood/
The fact that it hasn’t happened in the 118 years since the lake formed in 1911 suggests it won’t happen.
Give it a couple million years. You have no way of knowing how much of the wood is already covered by sediment so far. Nor do you know how long it will take the exposed wood to rot.
Yes, but archaeologists do have an idea about how quickly submerged wood rots, based on the degree of preservation of marine wrecks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)
The Vasa wreck is mainly oak. I don’t know what sort of trees are submerged in the lake. If they’re soft wood, I’d imagine they’d rot more quickly.
It is an interesting question as to whether the submerged trees will fossilise. I’d imagine that it would be rare process, going on the fact that most dead animals or plants don’t fossilise, or if they do, are destroyed by natural processes before they’re discovered.
The wreck of a ship made of oak in salt water has no relation with the evergreen trees submerged in a freshwater lake.
To point is submerged trees are what petrified wood is.
Not sure what the point of your comments are here. You obviously know little about the topic and seem to just be looking for something to be disagreeable about.
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To clarify, even though the lake has the color of a tropical paradise sea, it is in fact very cold, 6 C at maximum. Maybe that helps to keep the trees from rotting?
I don't know if it makes a difference, but the lake is presumably sweet water. The Baltic Sea, where the Vasa ship was for about 300 years, is brackish.
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To clarify, even though the lake has the color of a tropical paradise sea, it is in fact very cold, 6 C at maximum. Maybe that helps to keep the trees from rotting?
I don't know if it makes a difference, but the lake is presumably sweet water. The Baltic Sea, where the Vasa ship was for about 300 years, is brackish.
Logs lost in the Great Lakes are salvaged routinely. Some are over a hundred years old. Cold water and low oxygen at depth preserve the wood.
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Okay then.
(https://i.imgur.com/qgjRmul.jpg)
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This is where petrified wood comes from. Give it a couple million years.
Only if the submerged tree trunks are covered with sediments before the wood rots away:
https://geology.com/stories/13/petrified-wood/
The fact that it hasn’t happened in the 118 years since the lake formed in 1911 suggests it won’t happen.
Give it a couple million years. You have no way of knowing how much of the wood is already covered by sediment so far. Nor do you know how long it will take the exposed wood to rot.
Yes, but archaeologists do have an idea about how quickly submerged wood rots, based on the degree of preservation of marine wrecks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)
The Vasa wreck is mainly oak. I don’t know what sort of trees are submerged in the lake. If they’re soft wood, I’d imagine they’d rot more quickly.
It is an interesting question as to whether the submerged trees will fossilise. I’d imagine that it would be rare process, going on the fact that most dead animals or plants don’t fossilise, or if they do, are destroyed by natural processes before they’re discovered.
The wreck of a ship made of oak in salt water has no relation with the evergreen trees submerged in a freshwater lake.
To point is submerged trees are what petrified wood is.
Not sure what the point of your comments are here. You obviously know little about the topic and seem to just be looking for something to be disagreeable about.
The point is, is that it’s an interesting question as to how dead things that were once living become fossilised. Being buried is the first and perhaps the most important step. Until the submerged tree trunks (and a considerable amount of the tree trunks aren’t submerged anyway) and ship wrecks are covered by sediments, they’re still exposed to oxygen and bacteria, causing them to rot away before fossilising.
The Burgess Shale fossils shows that killing immediately by covering sediments facilitates fossilisation. Living things dying and just lying exposed on the floor of bodies of water tend not to fossilise.
You’re claiming that petrified wood is submerged tree trunks, plus millions of years. I think that it’s actually wood covered by sediments, plus long time.
The Wikipedia article seems to support my impression, as do the references it lists do too (provided you also include volcanic ash as ‘sediment:’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrified_wood
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To point is submerged trees are what petrified wood is.
Fossilization only occurs under some pretty rare conditions, though. Most readily it happens under anaerobic conditions and after rapid isolation from the outside world, usually by burial under silt or volcanic mud or even lava. These trees are literally sticking out of the very clear water into the air, so it's hard to see how that might be the case here. Certainly the parts of the trees that are still submerged but not buried, and anything attached to those parts, are unlikely to fossilize. And the lake is so clear that it's hard to imagine there being a steady stream of mineral rich water to replace the wood.
#not.a.palaeontologist
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Good thing fossilization is rare lest we have billions and billions of gods peeking out at us from the gaps.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Manx_Loaghtan_Butser_Ancient_Farm.JPG)
Manx Loaghtan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_Loaghtan), sheep of the Isle of Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man).
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Repeats, I'm sure, but...
(https://i.imgur.com/JswowHA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LcyQP6W.jpg)
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Repeats, I'm sure, but...
(https://i.imgur.com/JswowHA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LcyQP6W.jpg)
All very good points. Peer reviewed journals are much more reliable than mainstream media, but they also need to be taken with a grain of sodium chloride. Don’t forget that peer review means that 2 or 3 other people can’t find any obvious errors, not that the article is true. And a study with significant p-values doesn’t mean that the correlation between two variables indicates that there’s causation. The correlation could still be by chance alone.
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https://twitter.com/Ralphium/status/1160242266902061056
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Seems a useful metric. Now we know what we need to fill it!
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Seems a useful metric. Now we know what we need to fill it!
They will all be off balance and dance around the road on the spin cycle. ::)
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In the replies to the original, the news station's Twitter also estimates the volume in cash registers and toasters.
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In the replies to the original, the news station's Twitter also estimates the volume in cash registers and toasters.
3 toasters in a cash register; 5-1/2 cash registers in a washing machine.
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Aurora Monroe?
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Saturn Aura
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71DDYBLKJEL._UY560_.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/bvkI1ev.jpg)
I wanna know why Saturn's aurora is upside down. I smell fake news.
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/bvkI1ev.jpg)
I wanna know why Saturn's aurora is upside down. I smell fake news.
The source claims they're "curious about the universe."
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Alex_Jones.flv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30
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I don't know why it's titled as such, unless the background music is from one of the older games. (BTW, in the Deus Ex universe, the Illuminati is real)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8kZ3HfeqtA
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(https://thegodlessswede.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/1157575_644160105605004_40361551_n.jpg)
I am not a pacifist, I do get the need for military defense, as well as honoring military treaties with other countries around the world. But still, imagine if the annual science budgets amounted to at least 25% of the military budget (the societal resources obviously exist), or if the total NASA budgets between 1958 and 2011 were at least twice the military budgets of 2011. Apart from making progress on important issues and boosting the economy, lots of things could have been achieved.
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(https://thegodlessswede.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/1157575_644160105605004_40361551_n.jpg)
I am not a pacifist, I do get the need for military defense, as well as honoring military treaties with other countries around the world. But still, imagine if the annual science budgets amounted to at least 25% of the military budget (the societal resources obviously exist), or if the total NASA budgets between 1958 and 2011 were at least twice the military budgets of 2011. Apart from making progress on important issues and boosting the economy, lots of things could have been achieved.
A good part of the military budget does go to research. But your point is valid.
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Reminds me think of this one:
(https://i.imgur.com/o4oedMX.png)
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(https://69.media.tumblr.com/2be70c6eac5e5e1a30e69429a50c44f9/tumblr_pwdpnon3K41y8qafno1_1280.jpg)
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(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aL0Rq56_700bwp.webp)
There are cooks, janitors, and other support staff 'living' in Antarctica. Nobody stays very long, it's more like a remote oil rig.
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(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aL0Rq56_700bwp.webp)
There are cooks, janitors, and other support staff 'living' in Antarctica. Nobody stays very long, it's more like a remote oil rig.
There's one guy who stays all "winter" at the South Pole to tend a telescope that needs liquid helium topped up regularly. He likes being alone I guess. Or maybe halitosis?
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Some countries send their staff to the Ice for 18 months or two years. There are a lot of people that repeat every summer for specialist work. Some people seem to live there.
Mind you, even the seals and penguins spend a lot of time offshore.
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Some countries send their staff to the Ice for 18 months or two years. There are a lot of people that repeat every summer for specialist work. Some people seem to live there.
Mind you, even the seals and penguins spend a lot of time offshore.
Last I checked Purdue sent a team down there every year. I worked removing matrix when I was a student. The rule was "stop when you see something interesting." Bit frustrating.
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(https://i.imgur.com/0z6w1La.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/A8FaZTD.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/PyySVxI.gif)
So the Chicxulub asteroid impacted in the South Atlantic off the coast of Africa?
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(https://i.imgur.com/PyySVxI.gif)
So the Chicxulub asteroid impacted in the South Atlantic off the coast of Africa?
Yes, and the world is flat...
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How did the meteor get through the dome that keeps the air in?
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Pfft. You don't still believe in meteors, do you?
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How did the meteor get through the dome that keeps the air in?
According to Mark Sargent, per his infamous interview on Oh No It's Ross And Carrie, they get shot through an opening by aliens with a rail gun or something equally stupid.
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(https://i.imgur.com/yxpWvPY.png)
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Pfft. You don't still believe in meteors, do you?
Not round ones.
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Pfft. You don't still believe in meteors, do you?
Not round ones.
You can't be Ceres about that.
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1891/5829/products/7_1024x1024.png?v=1551058886)
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That can't be Trump. His mouth is closed.
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"There's no such thing as biological race," maybe, but as presented it's as reasonable as saying, "There's no such thing as religion," or, "There's no such thing as money."
Just because something is mostly or entirely a social construct doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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"There's no such thing as biological race," maybe, but as presented it's as reasonable as saying, "There's no such thing as religion," or, "There's no such thing as money."
Just because something is mostly or entirely a social construct doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Having bad ideas is a social construct. Doesn't mean it needs to exist.
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I agree that many social constructs are bad ideas that shouldn't exist, but that's not a world you can bring about by simply pretending they're already gone.
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I agree that many social constructs are bad ideas that shouldn't exist, but that's not a world you can bring about by simply pretending they're already gone.
I should have said "persist" instead of "exist".
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This one's a real hair-ripper.
(https://i.imgur.com/DlhchIp.jpg)
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It's not female-coded. It's idiot-coded.
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It's not female-coded. It's idiot-coded.
Right. That's the kink in the chain. And the distaste is not specifically masculine either.
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I can't take anyone seriously who uses the expression "hating on".
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This one's a real hair-ripper.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/DlhchIp.jpg)
It's not female-coded. It's idiot-coded.
Right. That's the kink in the chain. And the distaste is not specifically masculine either.
But here's the underlying problem: according to post-structuralist philosophy, all realities are subjective and entirely context-dependent, so this person's pro-astrology "reality" is no less valid for her than our anti-astrology reality is for us.
That mode of thinking divides people of differing views, which allows everyone's personal illusion of progress to hinder any real, objective progress. In the end, it all comes down to which "discourse (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/936e/90716ef93cd120365b79af9b6567923168db.pdf)" can garner enough popular and monetary support to prevail in society and the markets. Which is one reason why we now have medical schools teaching pseudoscience (https://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/2011/04/12/medical-schools-embrace-alternative-medicine).
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It's not female-coded. It's idiot-coded.
I was born on the same day as Rush Limbaugh and within twenty miles of him.
That proves astrology is bullshit.
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It's not female-coded. It's idiot-coded.
I was born on the same day as Rush Limbaugh and within twenty miles of him.
That proves astrology is bullshit.
Oh, but at what time of day? Half an hour can make a noticable difference to the position of the sun and moon.
Is what I would have said back when I still bought into astrology and taught myself how to draw a natal chart by hand.
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Clip from a television special from 1958 describing the hazard of climate change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lgzz-L7GFg
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I'm pretty sure that was used as a WTN once.
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The presenter did a lot of the "Bell Science" films. Projector nerds got to see them more than once. 8)
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(https://arstechnica.com/civis/download/file.php?id=45315&sid=fff38618a61ed0399d21cf6e31e5394e)
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Why can't people frame their photos?
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(https://i.imgur.com/D5W7uKh.jpg)
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(https://arstechnica.com/civis/download/file.php?id=45371)
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"..during the thirtieth month of the pregnancy."
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My experience when reading wikipedia on physics and higher maths topics:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/kr5tbw77tseoipz/rabbits.PNG?raw=1)
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(https://i.imgur.com/UdrT8j5.jpg)
Exploiting the power of microorganisms to make lovely vegetables.
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https://img.izismile.com/img/img11/20181214/640/a_universe_of_space_memes_640_42.jpg
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The URL goes to a 404 so even better.
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Congratulations, you successfully pasted the url for the picture in the previous post
The picture in the previous post isn't showing for me and never has. I saw it by uploading its URL to Imgur. This is it, if anyone else still can't see it.
(https://i.imgur.com/3dWlptk.jpg)
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The picture in the previous post isn't showing for me and never has. I saw it by uploading its URL to Imgur. This is it, if anyone else still can't see it.
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I got it to load by copy/pasting the link into a separate browser window. That got it loaded into my browser cache, and now I can view it on this page too.
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Hey, it's just a holey spaceship. Vatican space program?
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(https://i.ibb.co/GsgtGP7/71-D329-F8-1-AB3-4-C4-F-8154-A064-A4-A1-F0-BC.jpg)
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Waste of a good spaceship.
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How good a ship do you need to send them on a one-way trip, really? A waste of good fuel, maybe?
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How good a ship do you need to send them on a one-way trip, really? A waste of good fuel, maybe?
I'd send them to see those reclusive natives in the Indian Ocean and load that ship up with politicians.
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1910/PIA23180_raw.gif)
InSight on a Cloudy Day (https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap191004.html)
Image Credit: NASA, JPL-Caltech, Mars InSight
Explanation: Clouds drift through the sky as the light fades near sunset in this three frame animated gif. The scene was captured on sol 145 beginning around 6:30pm local time by a camera on the Mars InSight lander. Of course, InSight's martian day, sol 145, corresponds to Earth calendar date April 25, 2019. Under the 69 centimeter (2.3 foot) diameter dome in the foreground is the lander's sensitive seismometer SEIS designed to detect marsquakes. Earthquakes reveal internal structures on planet Earth, and so tremors detected by SEIS can explore beneath the martian surface. In particular, two typical marsquakes were recorded by SEIS on May 22 (sol 173) and July 25 (sol 235). The subtle tremors from the Red Planet are at very low frequencies though, and for listening have to be processed into the audio frequency range. In the sped up recordings external noises more prevalent on cool martian evenings and likely caused by mechanical shifts and contractions have been technically dubbed dinks and donks.
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(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/camo/4a9055c721cbfacccc3bd922fff9b803335b9b14/687474703a2f2f332e62702e626c6f6773706f742e636f6d2f2d576a7a796d4a66594952772f54664f48305252553075492f41414141414141415657732f7264723747326841436e342f73313630302f466f7274756e6574656c6c65725f626974732e6a7067)
EDIT:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_fCJOZ4BIdL78ikHSVdeChdu3XqmSNrM6yGEd7ROGg-fJP8yJ)
Took me way too long to spot the error.
EDIT 2:
(http://www.magicalmaths.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/funny-math-jokes.jpg)
(https://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/91720140143121.jpg)
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_fCJOZ4BIdL78ikHSVdeChdu3XqmSNrM6yGEd7ROGg-fJP8yJ)
Took me way too long to spot the error.
You can generally start from the assumption that things like this have snuck in division by zero somewhere, and then look for that specifically.
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_fCJOZ4BIdL78ikHSVdeChdu3XqmSNrM6yGEd7ROGg-fJP8yJ)
Took me way too long to spot the error.
You can generally start from the assumption that things like this have snuck in division by zero somewhere, and then look for that specifically.
There was a lot of drinking this week (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_October_Festival).
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(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapod.nasa.gov%2Fapod%2Fimage%2F1910%2Fmoonjupiter100319derekdemeter800.jpg&t=1570322031&ymreqid=4fc1fd91-57d9-c212-1c05-2f028e019a00&sig=giOatnteyHbdW652f.svHA--~C)
Jupiter and the Moons (https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap191005.html)
Image Credit & Copyright: Derek Demeter (Emil Buehler Planetarium)
Explanation: After sunset on October 3, some of the Solar System's largest moons stood low along the western horizon with the largest planet. Just after nightfall, a pairing of the Moon approaching first quarter phase and Jupiter was captured in this telephoto field of view. A blend of short and long exposures, it reveals the familiar face of our fair planet's own large natural satellite in stark sunlight and faint earthshine. At lower right are the ruling gas giant and its four Galilean moons. Left to right, the tiny pinpricks of light are Ganymede, [Jupiter], Io, Europa, and Callisto. Our own natural satellite appears to loom large because it's close, but Ganymede, Io, and Callisto are actually larger than Earth's Moon. Water world Europa is only slightly smaller. Of the Solar System's six largest planetary satellites, only Saturn's moon Titan, is missing from this scene. But be sure to check for large moons in your sky tonight.
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I recently got to see that for myself for the first time in my adult life through a friend's telescope. That and the rings of Saturn. One of those things that make you go "holy crap it's actually real!". }|:op
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(https://i.imgur.com/8PWnusq.jpg)
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Is it okay to post the APOD images here or should I start a new thread? Either way works for me. (I won't do big blobby clouds of gas, just ones that strike me.)
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(https://i.imgur.com/YxNSMuT.jpg)
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Awesome example of how to lie with statistics:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/RJtURneNvadMoRiPWj/giphy.gif)
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Conclusions aside, there's something very satisfying about that visualization method.
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Unfortunately, here in the US, we do often vote by "land".
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Yeah but even if you adjusted the resulting sizes based on relative electoral college voting power, it would still effectively refute the "impeach this" version of the unedited county map that's supposed to look like the vast majority of the country supported Trump.
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Right, but it wouldn't clear up the problem of how Trump actually got elected in the first place.
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Right, but it wouldn't clear up the problem of how Trump actually got elected in the first place.
On that subject, this would: National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)
States are signing on to allocate EVs toward the national popular vote winner. Once signatories comprise a majority of EVs, the legislation activates.
We need 270 EVs.
We have 196 with 90 more pending.
Reference map:
(https://i.imgur.com/Rf4wqxm.png)
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I do like this image from their website.
(https://www.theskepticsguide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/SGU19-EXT-schedule-poster-PRINT.jpg)
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I do like this image from their website.
Spoiler
(https://www.theskepticsguide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/SGU19-EXT-schedule-poster-PRINT.jpg)
Their current Alpha Quadrant 6 Youtube channel wallpaper:
(https://i.imgur.com/N9lEtvs.png)
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Right, but it wouldn't clear up the problem of how Trump actually got elected in the first place.
On that subject, this would: National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)
States are signing on to allocate EVs toward the national popular vote winner. Once signatories comprise a majority of EVs, the legislation activates.
We need 270 EVs.
We have 196 with 90 more pending.
Spoiler
Reference map:
(https://i.imgur.com/Rf4wqxm.png)
Agreed! I am fully supportive of initiatives like this, and my state is already signed on. Yahoo for States' Rights!
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I do like this image from their website.
(https://www.theskepticsguide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/SGU19-EXT-schedule-poster-PRINT.jpg)
I'm trying to figure out what's going on in that picture.
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Nova Corp line-up.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Cryobot.jpg)
Artist's impression of a hypothetical ocean cryobot in Europa.
Source. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Europa)
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First! Search the surface. The jets will entrain anything down there. We should be looking for frozen critters on the surface.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Cryobot.jpg)
Artist's impression of a hypothetical ocean cryobot in Europa.
Source. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Europa)
Artist depiction of the Sealab.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OoSwHkM2KdY/hqdefault.jpg)
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Saw a program the other day that suggests they will fly through one of the plumes before trying it on the surface.
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Artist depiction of the Sealab.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OoSwHkM2KdY/hqdefault.jpg)
We get that next year!
But hold out for the one the year after that. It's weirder, but much better.
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Artist depiction of the Sealab.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OoSwHkM2KdY/hqdefault.jpg)
We get that next year!
But you can only get there by flying car.
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(https://i.imgur.com/aU1JmUn.png)
"Better known for other work"
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(https://i.imgur.com/aU1JmUn.png)
"Better known for other work"
Is that really the Unibomber?
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Yes.
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Haha
https://twitter.com/7NewsAdelaide/status/1187890543893737472
Let's just replace the surface of the earth with sand and farms
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The spice must flow.
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(https://i.imgur.com/6PjT2xm.jpg)
Hachi machi!
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(https://i.imgur.com/6PjT2xm.jpg)
Hachi machi!
The left picture looks like it would blow up my eyeballs.
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Anthropology prof. at Purdue, back in the '90s, (M. Anderson IIRC) went to war with West Lafayette over her "native habitat" yard. ;D
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(https://rolandorre.se/doc/FreeThinker_a.gif)
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(https://rolandorre.se/doc/FreeThinker_a.gif)
Wow, that's a hot take.
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This is a pretty interesting video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC_4ULRkL8A
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Talk about your "boarding house reach".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYPJzQppANo&list=WL&index=193
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/1d/67/041d678b25f643f171a28ee497f4983c.jpg)
Think of what world we could be living in.
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Imagine throwing half that military budget into fighting global warming?
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/1d/67/041d678b25f643f171a28ee497f4983c.jpg)
Think of what world we could be living in.
I do that all the time to keep my depression extra fresh.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYPJzQppANo&list=WL&index=193
As it happens I just met up with two friends from Cyprus today, one of whom I hadn't seen since she moved back there a little under a year ago, so this was science with a small bonus!
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Imagine throwing half that military budget into fighting global warming?
Yeah, but which half?
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Imagine throwing half that military budget into fighting global warming?
Yeah, but which half?
Middle half.
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(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/471/821/f44.png)
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Lush Rimjob and I were born on the same day, same county. This proves astrology is bunk.
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https://twitter.com/RobertDEdwards/status/1194097714209968129
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Rocket's red glare, folks. :P
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Thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm-ihc7CASY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm-ihc7CASY)
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As someone who is doing deep reinforcement learning and is using OpenAI: That is pretty impressive.
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A compilation of some of Randi's most iconic debunking moments.
https://youtu.be/uq5MtA33OHk
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(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/b900d0_4b9fe7e755c749459d16c8346710286b~mv2.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.mp4
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They missed a couple.
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(https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.mp4
What exactly is this trying to communicate? Certainly not relative sizes.
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I'll stick with the space theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqwpQarrDwk
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(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/b900d0_4b9fe7e755c749459d16c8346710286b~mv2.jpg)
I believe David Hume is one of the ugliest people I've ever seen.
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But he could could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel.
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(https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.mp4
What exactly is this trying to communicate? Certainly not relative sizes.
Why do you say certainly not? It looks like that's exactly what they were going for.
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Ugly?
(https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/13/86/Quotation-David-Hume-A-wise-man-proportions-his-belief-to-the-evidence-13-86-91.jpg)
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Ugly?
(https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/13/86/Quotation-David-Hume-A-wise-man-proportions-his-belief-to-the-evidence-13-86-91.jpg)
Nice Hat.
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(https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.mp4
What exactly is this trying to communicate? Certainly not relative sizes.
Why do you say certainly not? It looks like that's exactly what they were going for.
In that case it's extremely incorrect.
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(https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.mp4
What exactly is this trying to communicate? Certainly not relative sizes.
It shows us how you can control the orbits of planets with magnetic fields. Learn your science.
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Here I thought the point of posting it in this thread was "Yeti PC".
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Here I thought the point of posting it in this thread was "Yeti PC".
I kept expecting an abominable snowman to walk onscreen and start lecturing about pronouns.
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Here I thought the point of posting it in this thread was "Yeti PC".
I kept expecting an abominable snowman to walk onscreen and start lecturing about pronouns.
(http://m.quickmeme.com/img/90/90d7b364a0d6afeac4bfd75a9c2a56ea407044f4605e1a399a1407b09aa5eb9e.jpg)
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Here I thought the point of posting it in this thread was "Yeti PC".
I kept expecting an abominable snowman to walk onscreen and start lecturing about pronouns.
Or crash into a downhill skier.
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Gif doesn't move for me.
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(https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/EGuns7s.mp4
What exactly is this trying to communicate? Certainly not relative sizes.
Why do you say certainly not? It looks like that's exactly what they were going for.
In that case it's extremely incorrect.
"Extremely"?
(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/resources/detail_files/686_solarsys_scale.jpg)
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Since Jupiter's red spot is 3 times the size of earth it does seem off but we have to account for the distance between earth and moon.
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Jupiter as a whole has about 40x the diameter of the Moon, and so would cover about 20 degrees instead of the half-degree the Moon covers.
I think what might mess people up is just how small the Moon actually looks in the sky.
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"Extremely"?
(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/resources/detail_files/686_solarsys_scale.jpg)
This picture is fake. It it were real I would see stars in the background.
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"Extremely"?
(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/resources/detail_files/686_solarsys_scale.jpg)
This picture is fake. It it were real I would see stars in the background.
If it were real there would be a heck of a lot more space between the planets.
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(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/b900d0_4b9fe7e755c749459d16c8346710286b~mv2.jpg)
I believe David Hume is one of the ugliest people I've ever seen.
Why? Seems like a rather ordinary Scottish man of the low nobility in 18th century Scotland.
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"Extremely"?
(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/resources/detail_files/686_solarsys_scale.jpg)
This picture is fake. It it were real I would see stars in the background.
If it were real there would be a heck of a lot more space between the planets.
That and the Earth would be in the center like God intended.
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"Extremely"?
(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/resources/detail_files/686_solarsys_scale.jpg)
This picture is fake. It it were real I would see stars in the background.
If it were real there would be a heck of a lot more space between the planets.
That and the Earth would be in the center like God intended.
Also looks flat from here.
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Since Jupiter's red spot is 3 times the size of earth it does seem off but we have to account for the distance between earth and moon.
Exactly my point. The relative sizes in that movie are totally wrong when viewed from the perspective of the surface of Earth.
If Jupiter were as close as our moon, it would fill the entire sky.
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Since Jupiter's red spot is 3 times the size of earth it does seem off but we have to account for the distance between earth and moon.
Exactly my point. The relative sizes in that movie are totally wrong when viewed from the perspective of the surface of Earth.
If Jupiter were as close as our moon, it would fill the entire sky.
And float.
;D
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And we'd all be fried from the radiation.
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If Jupiter were as close as our moon, it would fill the entire sky.
Why do you think that? How big do you think Jupiter is? How big do you think another Earth would look if it was as far away as the Moon?
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Jupiter is 43441 miles in radius (sorry, Google thinks I want miles because I'm in the US).
The Moon is 238900 miles away.
At that distance, that length covers about 10.5 degrees. So Jupiter would look to be about 21 degrees across.
The Moon is about half a degree across when viewed from Earth.
The Jupiter in the video looks to be about 45 times bigger in diameter than the Moon.
What part of the above is wrong? Or what important thing did I miss?
Edit: Even at perigee and accounting for Earth's radius, Jupiter would appear 23 degrees across at maximum. Which means that the full disc would fill 2% of the sky, in terms of the solid angle.
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Looks about right to me.
a=arctan(diameter/distance)
d(Jupiter)=140000km
D(Earth-Moon)=384000km
a=arctan(140/384)=20.0°
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They missed a couple.
Yeah Saturn woulda been cool.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jQRbxjskrPc/maxresdefault.jpg)
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How big do you think another Earth would look if it was as far away as the Moon?
~2°
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BTW, not a very good movie.
(https://hotcorn-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2018/07/25171529/Another-Earth-1-758x426.jpg)
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It's hard with a "photograph" like that because photos can be very zoomed-in.
A US quarter held 27 inches from your eye would cover the Earth at the average distance of the moon.
A standard NBA basketball, with its center 2 feet from your eye, would cover Jupiter.
Relative to the usual things we see in the sky, sure that's big enough that you could figuratively say it fills the sky. It sure as hell would dominate everything else up there.
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Today Valve announced the third game in the Half Life series. When I went for a nostalgic dive into the lore... I've found that this is the title of Gordon Freeman's PhD Thesis at MIT. Then I decided to actually try to understand what this means... Very interesting!
(https://i.imgur.com/aCyg5Xf.jpg)
The Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen paradox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox
Bell's Theorem: The Quantum Venn Diagram Paradox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcqZHYo7ONs
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Today Valve announced the third game in the Half Life series. When I went for a nostalgic dive into the lore... I've found that this is the title of Gordon Freeman's PhD Thesis at MIT. Then I decided to actually try to understand what this means... Very interesting!
(https://i.imgur.com/aCyg5Xf.jpg)
The Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen paradox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox
Bell's Theorem: The Quantum Venn Diagram Paradox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcqZHYo7ONs
This shit is so weird. Now I have to categorize this with the double slit experiment in my section of, "WTF"
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Jupiter is 43441 miles in radius (sorry, Google thinks I want miles because I'm in the US).
The Moon is 238900 miles away.
At that distance, that length covers about 10.5 degrees. So Jupiter would look to be about 21 degrees across.
The Moon is about half a degree across when viewed from Earth.
The Jupiter in the video looks to be about 45 times bigger in diameter than the Moon.
What part of the above is wrong? Or what important thing did I miss?
Edit: Even at perigee and accounting for Earth's radius, Jupiter would appear 23 degrees across at maximum. Which means that the full disc would fill 2% of the sky, in terms of the solid angle.
But how big would Australia or Texas be if they were at the same distance as the moon?
(https://s31991.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/how-big-is-the-universe-embed.jpg.optimal.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJvqI2cXkAE_8-k.jpg)
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Tip of the hat to the feathered serpent.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJtBsOmU4AANWGj.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJvqI2cXkAE_8-k.jpg)
I thought that was the cover to the softback book for a moment then...
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(https://i.imgur.com/GN4u9f4m.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/A9pTj4s.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/GN4u9f4m.jpg)
Hey doc got anything to stop my coffin?
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Do antivaxxers promote unprotected sex with strangers?
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(https://i.imgur.com/A9pTj4s.jpg)
I always thought it was dumb that they recorded a whole bunch of languages. If you were an alien and you found this wouldn't you assume that the message was in a single language and trying to tell you something?
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I always thought it was dumb that they recorded a whole bunch of languages. If you were an alien and you found this wouldn't you assume that the message was in a single language and trying to tell you something?
Given enough samples, a sufficiently advanced intelligence should be capable of decoding the languages into the actual meaning by cross-correlating between different languages. But I think the intent was to demonstrate diversity, rather than actually convey information. Many languages sound vastly different from each other, so I don't think there's any question that they would be heard as separate and discrete.
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(https://i.imgur.com/A9pTj4s.jpg)
I always thought it was dumb that they recorded a whole bunch of languages. If you were an alien and you found this wouldn't you assume that the message was in a single language and trying to tell you something?
I think if you were an alien you would have trouble making sense of any of it, even with the effort they put into making it decipherable.
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If they found it out there they're probably smarter than we are.
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Geological Map of Titan:
(https://i.redd.it/etpgld9s1u041.jpg)
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Given enough samples, a sufficiently advanced intelligence should be capable of decoding the languages into the actual meaning by cross-correlating between different languages.
This is a lot harder than you think especially if you don't know the rules of a given language. With the Rosetta stone we knew exactly what the hieroglyphs should say and it still took a while to figure out the Egyptian language. Not to say that they wouldn't have some computer program that could crunch all of the possibilities and come up with something in short order.
Well my frustration in it is just silly anyway because any civilization that would potentially find the satellite would have years of radio waves to research our language and unlike a tiny satellite in a gargantuan ocean our radio waves are polluted everywhere.
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any civilization that would potentially find the satellite would have years of radio waves to research our language and unlike a tiny satellite in a gargantuan ocean our radio waves are polluted everywhere.
Radio waves diminish in amplitude according to the Inverse Square Law. Considering that the TV transmissions weren't all that powerful to begin with, I imagine that within a few light years they'd probably fall beneath the noise floor of the cosmic background noise.
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any civilization that would potentially find the satellite would have years of radio waves to research our language and unlike a tiny satellite in a gargantuan ocean our radio waves are polluted everywhere.
Radio waves diminish in amplitude according to the Inverse Square Law. Considering that the TV transmissions weren't all that powerful to begin with, I imagine that within a few light years they'd probably fall beneath the noise floor of the cosmic background noise.
Indeed. We can only pick up distant radio sources because they're just so damn strong. I Love Lucy is less than a whisper in comparison.
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Earths Magnetosphere
(https://i.imgur.com/36ly6oi.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/36ly6oi.mp4
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Who is throwing all those stars at us and why?
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Who is throwing all those stars at us and why?
Those aren't stars, they're infomercials sent by the Wheelmen of Aldebaran II.
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Who is throwing all those stars at us and why?
The Sun which is why it must be stopped. We must kill the Sun.
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Who is throwing all those stars at us and why?
The Sun which is why it must be stopped. We must kill the Sun.
before it kills us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDcDf57bdjI
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaiqyebWcAATOpq.jpg)
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Dogs are wolves with the interesting bit bred out of them.
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Dogs are wolves with the interesting bit bred out of them.
Dogs are plenty interesting.
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Dogs are wolves with the interesting bit bred out of them.
Dogs are plenty interesting.
Relatively, sure.
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(https://miro.medium.com/max/500/0*DqWLMYWjHJL570TU.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/TYfLHEm.png)
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(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1575216145-20191201.png)
Spoiler
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/157521674520191201after.png)
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Your life as a skeptic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgOMiyjitjA
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Boss Lady is rolling. ;D
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That hit pretty close to home.
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(https://i.imgur.com/5hnVrUz.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/5hnVrUz.jpg)
He always was The Best Ever Death Metal Band In Denton.
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(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/camo/c4562903f392f134f09fb3c1f13f26a8091648b7/687474703a2f2f706c65617465642d6a65616e732e636f6d2f77702d636f6e74656e742f75706c6f6164732f323031322f30342f6b6972627973717565616b2e74756d626c722e6a706567)
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That's why we call it the "HyFy" Channel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXy3B2K47Qg
The computer simulation periodically pauses to intercut real images of colliding galaxies from the HST.
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The galaxies were Russian?
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(https://i.redd.it/me0yf6f473441.jpg)
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<a href="https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/16/watch-spacex-recover-falcon-9-nose-cone/">
Watch SpaceX try to catch both halves of a Falcon 9 nose cone at 7:10PM ET | Engadget</a>
https://youtu.be/sbXgZg9JmkI
If everything goes according to plan, the Falcon 9 rocket will deploy its payload 33 minutes after takeoff. Approximately 45 minutes after takeoff, SpaceX will attempt to catch the two fairing halves before they touch the ocean. The mission's launch window will open at 7:10PM ET and close approximately 90 minutes later at 8:38PM ET.
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In 2019:
(https://i.redd.it/rs14mynd7m441.jpg)
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There goes the neighborhood. :-[
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<a href="https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/16/watch-spacex-recover-falcon-9-nose-cone/">
Watch SpaceX try to catch both halves of a Falcon 9 nose cone at 7:10PM ET | Engadget</a>
If everything goes according to plan, the Falcon 9 rocket will deploy its payload 33 minutes after takeoff. Approximately 45 minutes after takeoff, SpaceX will attempt to catch the two fairing halves before they touch the ocean. The mission's launch window will open at 7:10PM ET and close approximately 90 minutes later at 8:38PM ET.
So the mission succeeded. But they missed catching the two fairings. The first stage successfully landed on a drone ship.
Fun fact, the name of the drone ship the first stage landed on: “Of Course I Still Love You.”
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<a href="https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/16/watch-spacex-recover-falcon-9-nose-cone/">
Watch SpaceX try to catch both halves of a Falcon 9 nose cone at 7:10PM ET | Engadget</a>
If everything goes according to plan, the Falcon 9 rocket will deploy its payload 33 minutes after takeoff. Approximately 45 minutes after takeoff, SpaceX will attempt to catch the two fairing halves before they touch the ocean. The mission's launch window will open at 7:10PM ET and close approximately 90 minutes later at 8:38PM ET.
So the mission succeeded. But they missed catching the two fairings. The first stage successfully landed on a drone ship.
Fun fact, the name of the drone ship the first stage landed on: “Of Course I Still Love You.”
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I mean, how hard can it be to catch a fairing? I catch them all the time. Big ones. The best ones.
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<a href="https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/16/watch-spacex-recover-falcon-9-nose-cone/">
Watch SpaceX try to catch both halves of a Falcon 9 nose cone at 7:10PM ET | Engadget</a>
If everything goes according to plan, the Falcon 9 rocket will deploy its payload 33 minutes after takeoff. Approximately 45 minutes after takeoff, SpaceX will attempt to catch the two fairing halves before they touch the ocean. The mission's launch window will open at 7:10PM ET and close approximately 90 minutes later at 8:38PM ET.
So the mission succeeded. But they missed catching the two fairings. The first stage successfully landed on a drone ship.
Fun fact, the name of the drone ship the first stage landed on: “Of Course I Still Love You.”
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I mean, how hard can it be to catch a fairing? I catch them all the time. Big ones. The best ones.
Interesting. Maybe you have a better boat name? That makes all the difference.
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To be honest I can't think of a time in which I tried to catch a fairing and missed.
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Makes sense when you realise that "empty" can be both an adjective and a verb.
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A bit of pareidolia:
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(https://i.imgur.com/fkxfdY5.jpg)
Is that reminder a commentary on garbage truck drivers?
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1912/solarcanMatrixSolstice.gif)
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(https://i.imgur.com/5jaoQM5.jpg)
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pessimist
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So, was it alive or dead?
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pessimist
IIRC it should've been half full of lead.
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IIRC it should've been half full of lead.
Well, if you want to be pedantic, the can will look still look full. There is very little uranium in uranium ore. In order to get enough enriched uranium to fill that can, and get the described effect, you'd probably need 10,000 cans.
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(https://asebeia.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/darkageschart.gif)
This is not really the most "Science-and-Skepticism-i-est Image", because it is incorrect. This historical graph is not what you will find modern historians endorsing.
Even if you, like me, dislike religion, one should avoid falling for temptations like this.
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Yeah, that graph might be closer to true if Catholic Europe were the only civilization in the world (in which case they wouldn't have had access to any of the preservations and advancements made by Indians and Arabs), but even then it perpetuates the Renaissance idea that literally no one anywhere in Europe had figured anything new out for nearly a thousand years.
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It would not be correct even with that perspective. This whole idea, widespread in the popular culture, is a Renaissance myth. It is not something you will find mainstream academic historians endorsing.
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...I know that and was agreeing with you
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EDIT:
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(https://tettybetty.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/maxresdefault-1502972325046-696x488.jpg)
context (https://tettybetty.com/this-is-the-most-beautiful-woman-in-the-world-according-to-science/)
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Participants were judged on some specific standards. Studies have indicated that the width of the face from ear to ear should measure roughly 46%, and Florence checks in at 44%. The distance between Florence’s eyes and mouth measure out to 32.8%, and the perfect standard is 33.3%.
So, measuring skulls.
Why did you post that in a sciency image thread?
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Participants were judged on some specific standards. Studies have indicated that the width of the face from ear to ear should measure roughly 46%, and Florence checks in at 44%. The distance between Florence’s eyes and mouth measure out to 32.8%, and the perfect standard is 33.3%.
So, measuring skulls.
Why did you post that in a sciency image thread?
And she works in a fish bar. Does she pass the smell test?
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Participants were judged on some specific standards. Studies have indicated that the width of the face from ear to ear should measure roughly 46%, and Florence checks in at 44%. The distance between Florence’s eyes and mouth measure out to 32.8%, and the perfect standard is 33.3%.
So, measuring skulls.
Why did you post that in a sciency image thread?
And she works in a fish bar. Does she pass the smell test?
Beauty is in the EYE of the beholder... not the nose... ;)
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I wish there was a beholder with a bunch of nose stalks instead of eye stalks.
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Participants were judged on some specific standards. Studies have indicated that the width of the face from ear to ear should measure roughly 46%, and Florence checks in at 44%. The distance between Florence’s eyes and mouth measure out to 32.8%, and the perfect standard is 33.3%.
So, measuring skulls.
Why did you post that in a sciency image thread?
At first I thought that the "scientific study" mentioned in the article was about determining what those specific standards were by examining a population of study participants' responses to a range of faces, but no, this just appears to be a submit-your-face competition where they picked the face that most closely matched a preselected set of figures. It hardly seems scientific at all.
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Even a survey-based method would only find the most generally appealing face, but likely not actually the "most beautiful" in any one respondent's opinion. It's like how Richard Wiseman's search for the funniest joke arrived at one that was chuckle-worthy to the majority of people but extremely funny to very few.
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I wish there was a beholder with a bunch of nose stalks instead of eye stalks.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/4c4f454c5352bfd0bcb18a5217b30012/tumblr_p4qmw2fzTN1rgr4d5o1_1280.png)
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Science innovation from "MandaPanda" and "Gummy Roach". ::)
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This researcher created an algorithm that removes the water from underwater images
https://youtu.be/ExOOElyZ2Hk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlaS9V1ioGM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlaS9V1ioGM
Bill Maher's statement was just a smarmy cheer for the Democratic Party. And Neil DeGrasse Tyson totally got carried away with showing off how much he knows about science history.
Maher's statement is objectively wrong for two very simple and obvious reasons which Dr. Tyson overlooked:
- The ACA didn't give healthcare to 30 million people. It mandated that they purchase it out of their own pockets.
- The main reason why going to the Moon was so important is because nobody had ever done it before.
The ACA might have been a breakthrough if every other industrially developed country in the world hadn't already managed to provide its people with affordable health care.
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I should be embarrassed that that's an Aussie, but I've seen worse letters to the Editor. At least that one is a New South Welshman ;)
I remember one that was in my local paper 20+ years ago (The Mercury), where a woman was questioning Hydro-electricity, and asking if studies had been done to see if taking the electricity out of the water was safe. ???
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I'm pretty sure that's a parody. I'm sure I've seen similar ones before.
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I has da sads. :(
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/marketplace-anti-vaccination-hidden-camera-washington-1.5429805
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Charon:
(https://i.imgur.com/mQkxnib.jpg)
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We'll get it next time! (Lines up another shot.)
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(https://i.imgur.com/PMfhbqV.jpg)
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(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1580135273-20200127.png)
SMBC 28/01/2020 (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/supervillainy)
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That's why you should tell the ethics board nothing and stick with ingredients you already have at home.
(https://i.imgur.com/eK1niLR.png)
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For most of Oz today you could only use the middle scale. The midday temps were to the right of both the others.
Some parts were mid 40s (113°F) (318K)
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Rankine
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Absolutely Fucking Cold Still Way Too Fucking Cold
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I'd say the Kelvin part of the graphic conveys that fairly well, since for everyday purposes there's not much practical difference between 100K and 100R.
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Uff da Oh for Pete's sake
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https://twitter.com/Crispian_Jago/status/1220742188755226625
https://twitter.com/Crispian_Jago/status/1220751506703634432
I find those tweets very moving.
Crispian Jago is not a celebrity by any means, but he did make The Venn Diagram of Irrational Nonsense (http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-venn-diagram-of-irrational-nonsense.html) (see image below), and I learn that he has been a co-organizer of a skeptical group (http://www.hampshireskeptics.org/?page_id=4080) in Hampshire, UK.
Spoiler
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(https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/solar-system-map.jpg)
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That's sciencey - but shows Neptune and Pluto at the same distance from the sun - which was true for a few years about 20 years ago. Also it's in 2D and sort of implies a solar system that is flatter than it really is... which isn't much of a stretch.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Lb7HVEN.jpg)
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That's sciencey - but shows Neptune and Pluto at the same distance from the sun - which was true for a few years about 20 years ago. Also it's in 2D and sort of implies a solar system that is flatter than it really is... which isn't much of a stretch.
Given the scale and proportions the image is probably accurate.
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(https://www.askideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Darwin-Day-12-February-1809.jpg)
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Had he known that trees would start growing heads....
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Spoiler
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1580135273-20200127.png)
SMBC 28/01/2020 (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/supervillainy)
I thought of an an idea to get people vaccinated: a conspiracy theory about a pandemic for depopulation purposes. Duh, of course there's a secret government plan to kill all of the scientifically illiterate people; better hurry up and get vaccinated.
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That's sciencey - but shows Neptune and Pluto at the same distance from the sun - which was true for a few years about 20 years ago. Also it's in 2D and sort of implies a solar system that is flatter than it really is... which isn't much of a stretch.
Given the scale and proportions the image is probably accurate.
It's a cool image, but the logarithmic scale should be kept in mind.
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That's sciencey - but shows Neptune and Pluto at the same distance from the sun - which was true for a few years about 20 years ago. Also it's in 2D and sort of implies a solar system that is flatter than it really is... which isn't much of a stretch.
Given the scale and proportions the image is probably accurate.
It's a cool image, but the logarithmic scale should be kept in mind.
Logarithms. Pshaw.
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1581522643-20200212.png)
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New Math is the spawn of Cthulhu.
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https://twitter.com/BadAstronomer/status/1227839859168956418?s=20
https://twitter.com/BadAstronomer/status/1227839859168956418?
Is there a new trick to tweets?
Can't get this to display
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Embedding them was a mod that they removed (at least temporarily) when they brought the forum back up.
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Embedding them was a mod that they removed (at least temporarily) when they brought the forum back up.
LIKE
Thanks (figured as much)
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New Math is the spawn of Cthulhu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIKGV2cTgqA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSkPNMjRRio
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That's cool 8)
I'd love to see a similar one done for earth impact meteorites.
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The same folks who named the Leelenisaurus and Muttaburrasaurus, no doubt.
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The same folks who named the Leelenisaurus and Muttaburrasaurus, no doubt.
Muttaburrasaurus is actually named after the place where it was found - Muttaburra, QLD (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Muttaburra+QLD+4732/@-22.6011246,144.4952519,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6a338eb0fd7918e5:0x400eef17f209530!8m2!3d-22.5944603!4d144.5479177).
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The same folks who named the Leelenisaurus and Muttaburrasaurus, no doubt.
Muttaburrasaurus is actually named after the place where it was found - Muttaburra, QLD (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Muttaburra+QLD+4732/@-22.6011246,144.4952519,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6a338eb0fd7918e5:0x400eef17f209530!8m2!3d-22.5944603!4d144.5479177).
And it's funny.
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Not exactly an image, but I'll leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNKIGAodj8
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The same folks who named the Leelenisaurus and Muttaburrasaurus, no doubt.
Muttaburrasaurus is actually named after the place where it was found - Muttaburra, QLD (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Muttaburra+QLD+4732/@-22.6011246,144.4952519,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6a338eb0fd7918e5:0x400eef17f209530!8m2!3d-22.5944603!4d144.5479177).
And it's funny.
and that's one of the less weird (and/or funny) aussie place names ;) Though when it comes to weird (and/or funny) place names, the US has us beat easily ;D
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The same folks who named the Leelenisaurus and Muttaburrasaurus, no doubt.
Muttaburrasaurus is actually named after the place where it was found - Muttaburra, QLD (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Muttaburra+QLD+4732/@-22.6011246,144.4952519,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6a338eb0fd7918e5:0x400eef17f209530!8m2!3d-22.5944603!4d144.5479177).
And it's funny.
and that's one of the less weird (and/or funny) aussie place names ;) Though when it comes to weird (and/or funny) place names, the US has us beat easily ;D
Only because we're used to ours. I mean seriously. Wagga Wagga?
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Woop Woop.
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Woop Woop.
Woop woop is not a real place - it's a euphemism for somewhere that's a long way from anywhere.
Gin Gin (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gin+Gin+QLD+4671/@-24.9768986,151.9172463,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6bea5133dacca00b:0x400eef17f20c8c0!8m2!3d-24.990833!4d151.95), Pindi Pindi (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pindi+Pindi+QLD+4798/@-20.8561188,148.6920663,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6bd98cb1c1d34ebd:0x400eef17f2085a0!8m2!3d-20.8659418!4d148.7377211), Grong Grong (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grong+Grong+NSW+2652/@-34.7014547,146.5015792,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b1f36f0b1ff6b63:0x40609b49043cbb0!8m2!3d-34.734359!4d146.7784232), Wangi Wangi (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wangi+Wangi+NSW+2267/@-33.0713838,151.5668924,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b73267e5fa66071:0x5017d681632f630!8m2!3d-33.065!4d151.568) and Woy Woy (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Woy+Woy+NSW+2256/@-33.5032617,151.2623777,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b0d4b5ef31ee741:0x5017d681632dfa0!8m2!3d-33.49!4d151.32) are all real places though.
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Woop Woop.
Woop woop is not a real place - it's a euphemism for somewhere that's a long way from anywhere.
Gin Gin (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gin+Gin+QLD+4671/@-24.9768986,151.9172463,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6bea5133dacca00b:0x400eef17f20c8c0!8m2!3d-24.990833!4d151.95), Pindi Pindi (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pindi+Pindi+QLD+4798/@-20.8561188,148.6920663,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6bd98cb1c1d34ebd:0x400eef17f2085a0!8m2!3d-20.8659418!4d148.7377211), Grong Grong (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grong+Grong+NSW+2652/@-34.7014547,146.5015792,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b1f36f0b1ff6b63:0x40609b49043cbb0!8m2!3d-34.734359!4d146.7784232), Wangi Wangi (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wangi+Wangi+NSW+2267/@-33.0713838,151.5668924,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b73267e5fa66071:0x5017d681632f630!8m2!3d-33.065!4d151.568) and Woy Woy (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Woy+Woy+NSW+2256/@-33.5032617,151.2623777,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b0d4b5ef31ee741:0x5017d681632dfa0!8m2!3d-33.49!4d151.32) are all real places though.
Reminds me of my aunt, Helen Gone.
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You'd fit in well in the Netherlands, with our "nou nou", "he he", "poe poe".
But Wales has you all beat.
(https://i.imgflip.com/a3f2p.jpg)
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Woop woop is not a real place - it's a euphemism for somewhere that's a long way from anywhere.
It's right up by Ship Creek.
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On the other hand Big Bone Lick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bone_Lick_State_Park) is not a euphemism.
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There's a place called "French Lick" in Indiana.
Don't bother.
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There's a place called "French Lick" in Indiana.
Don't bother.
Dildo, Newfoundland and Labrador. South Dildo, Dildo Arm, Dildo Island, Dildo Harbour. Canada is up to its ears in Dildos.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Dildo_Sign_2019.jpg/1280px-Dildo_Sign_2019.jpg)
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I knew someone who lived in Felch. It didn't mean that back then I reckon.
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They're the places I was thinking of. Like Intercourse and Climax ;)
Tassie used to have some weirder ones. A lot of these names are still used today.
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Every time I see Hobart I think of cannibalism. I'm not sure if that says something about me, or Hobart.
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My cousin's partner's name is something that might be mispronounced as "rude wank". It's not as bad in Dutch as it is in English. However, he's in marketing.
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Every time I see Hobart I think of cannibalism. I'm not sure if that says something about me, or Hobart.
The cannibalism, I assume you're talking about, was closer to where I live (Queenstown), than Hobart. That happened about 50 kilometres from here, near Macquarie Harbour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Pearce
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Yeah, but it's the song lyrics that get stuck in my head :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3gu9UH3xs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3gu9UH3xs)
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Tassie used to have some weirder ones. A lot of these names are still used today.
Near Port Arthur there's a little community called Doo Town. Every house there has a name that incorporates "doo". Like Doo nothing, Love Me Doo, Wattle-I-Doo... There's a list on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doo_Town).
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A nice little bit of eccentric tradition that has been kept going. In an area that has seen a lot of tragedy (historic and more recent) it's good to see a bit of levity
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That explains why we have so much calcium in our water.
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Too bad California's state code isn't Cf. It could have been represented, in the overlap, by its own element Californium instead of Calcium.
Poor Tennessee couldn't even make the cut, despite having its own element ;)
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<a href="https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/02/spacex-starship-sn1-prototype-implodes/?utm_campaign=homepage&utm_medium=internal&utm_source=dl">
SpaceX’s Starship rocket prototype collapsed on itself this weekend | Engadget</a>
https://youtu.be/sYeVnGL7fgw
Another SpaceX test ended in failure this past weekend. A prototype of the company's Starship rocket, SN1, imploded in a pressure test late Friday night. Elon Musk acknowledged the incident on Twitter, sharing a video and writing, "It's fine, we'll just buff it out."
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That's not what they wanted?
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There is no success without failure.
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There is no success without failure.
Pfff, I just successfully poured myself a glass of water without failing once.
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There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
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There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
Can you give me an example of someone succeeding in any great endeavour without any setbacks?
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There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
Can you give me an example of someone succeeding in any great endeavour without any setbacks?
If I can't would you then say that proves it's not possible?
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There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
Can you give me an example of someone succeeding in any great endeavour without any setbacks?
If I can't would you then say that proves it's not possible?
Whether or not it is is like arguing about how many angels can dance on a pin. The essence of the point is that in any great endeavor, we should expect setbacks.
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There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
Can you give me an example of someone succeeding in any great endeavour without any setbacks?
If I can't would you then say that proves it's not possible?
No, but if you can give me an example it will prove that it is possible.
But I think we're overintellectualising a trivial and pithy offhand comment by me, which I don't feel is really necessary.
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There is no success without failure.
Pfff, I just successfully poured myself a glass of water without failing once.
There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
Can you give me an example of someone succeeding in any great endeavour without any setbacks?
If I can't would you then say that proves it's not possible?
No, but if you can give me an example it will prove that it is possible.
But I think we're overintellectualising a trivial and pithy offhand comment by me, which I don't feel is really necessary.
I feel like you're all ignoring the great water pouring of 2020.
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There is no success without failure.
Pfff, I just successfully poured myself a glass of water without failing once.
There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
Can you give me an example of someone succeeding in any great endeavour without any setbacks?
If I can't would you then say that proves it's not possible?
No, but if you can give me an example it will prove that it is possible.
But I think we're overintellectualising a trivial and pithy offhand comment by me, which I don't feel is really necessary.
I feel like you're all ignoring the great water pouring of 2020.
Because pouring water is a "great endeavour". :)
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There is no success without failure.
Pfff, I just successfully poured myself a glass of water without failing once.
There is no success without failure.
Not everything is binary.
Can you give me an example of someone succeeding in any great endeavour without any setbacks?
If I can't would you then say that proves it's not possible?
No, but if you can give me an example it will prove that it is possible.
But I think we're overintellectualising a trivial and pithy offhand comment by me, which I don't feel is really necessary.
I feel like you're all ignoring the great water pouring of 2020.
Because pouring water is a "great endeavour". :)
Now you're getting it!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fva2pH41FM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fva2pH41FM)
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The guy with the robobird deems himself "pilot"?
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