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Title: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 05, 2015, 04:45:23 PM
As we all(?) know, the SGU recently celebrated 10 years. I listened to a recent interview with Steve in Skepticality, and he said that they (the SGU) were in it for "the long haul". So how long to do think they will keep going? Or more specifically, will we see a 20 years anniversary of the podcast?

I very much like that they exist. Their stuff is very educational, I like their way of branding, and Steve seems to me to be the Platonic version of a skeptic. >:D
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Andrew Clunn on May 05, 2015, 04:46:17 PM
This feels... too much like a death predictor game.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: amysrevenge on May 05, 2015, 05:04:56 PM
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Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: AQB24712 on May 05, 2015, 05:26:39 PM
I'm here for you, baseball-cap-beard-baby-guy, a.k.a. elephant guy.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Belgarath on May 05, 2015, 06:27:46 PM
If I could, I would vote 'yes' but 'I don't know in what form or fashion'

Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Boßel on May 05, 2015, 06:33:48 PM
I'm really attracted to that drawing...
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 07, 2015, 02:50:45 PM
If I could, I would vote 'yes' but 'I don't know in what form or fashion'

That would make it too easy... :P
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Johnny Slick on May 07, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
I put "no" because in the end I think the podcast exists at the behest of Dr. Novella, and I have to imagine at some point in the future he's going to want to retire. Perhaps retirement for him means quitting his day job and devoting *more* time to skepticism but there's also a good chance that he'll just want to ride off into the sunset. Add to that the ever-present health concerns (Dr. Novella is a healthy guy as far as I know but he's also in his 50s and who knows what could happen) as well as the very real possibility that podcasts may not be so much of a "thing" by 2025 (I don't see anything replacing them but then, nobody saw the web replacing newspapers, radio, and much of television in 1995) and I for one have to peg the odds of there not being an SGU in 10 years at over 50%.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Ah.hell on May 07, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
I agree with Johny but I still said yes.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: uolj on May 08, 2015, 06:24:00 AM
I'd say there's a danger that podcasts die out, but I wouldn't put that near 50% in only 10 years. I don't really see Dr. Novella retiring unless unexpected happens either. So I'd say it's more likely than not that the podcast is still around.

I voted that at least one member would be gone and a new member would be there. A new rogue coming soon seems likely (unless I missed some announcement otherwise). And while the likelihood in my mind of any specific rogue leaving is below 50%, combined I think chances are good that somebody will leave for some reason or another.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 08, 2015, 11:32:10 AM
I put "no" because in the end I think the podcast exists at the behest of Dr. Novella, and I have to imagine at some point in the future he's going to want to retire. Perhaps retirement for him means quitting his day job and devoting *more* time to skepticism but there's also a good chance that he'll just want to ride off into the sunset. Add to that the ever-present health concerns (Dr. Novella is a healthy guy as far as I know but he's also in his 50s and who knows what could happen) as well as the very real possibility that podcasts may not be so much of a "thing" by 2025 (I don't see anything replacing them but then, nobody saw the web replacing newspapers, radio, and much of television in 1995) and I for one have to peg the odds of there not being an SGU in 10 years at over 50%.

Well there was a reason I wrote ten years rather than forever.

But I agree with you. Without Steve there is no SGU.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 08, 2015, 11:33:52 AM
I'd say there's a danger that podcasts die out, but I wouldn't put that near 50% in only 10 years. I don't really see Dr. Novella retiring unless unexpected happens either. So I'd say it's more likely than not that the podcast is still around.

Yeah I think Steve will continue with skepticism in some way until he is unable for health reasons. And given that he is relatively young, I think it is very likely that he will keep on being active for the upcoming decades.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Mr Scumbag on May 09, 2015, 09:41:55 AM
Lately, I've kind of been wondering if George Hrab will come on as a full-time rogue. He's a close friend of the rogues, has a hand in virtually everything they do and has been a guest rogue countless times, and more and more often. It seems kind of inevitable to me. The only thing that is really standing in the way (besides George's schedule, which as far as I know wouldn't interfere much with the times they record) would be the inevitable criticism they'd get for not adding another woman.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 09, 2015, 09:59:27 AM
Lately, I've kind of been wondering if George Hrab will come on as a full-time rogue. He's a close friend of the rogues, has a hand in virtually everything they do and has been a guest rogue countless times, and more and more often. It seems kind of inevitable to me. The only thing that is really standing in the way (besides George's schedule, which as far as I know wouldn't interfere much with the times they record) would be the inevitable criticism they'd get for not adding another woman.

I think you are onto something. It feels like he is by far their most common guest.

But then joining as a rouge means taking up a workload of maybe ten hours a week (I think Jay said he spends that many hours working on the podcast every week, so I assume it is true of the others as well, except for Steve). Hrab may not be able to take that up. Being a guest (I assume) doesn't require anything extra of you at all.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Gerbig on May 09, 2015, 04:53:59 PM
I wonder, when the rouges start to quit, will they replace them one by one until a brand new group is there?

Like old rock bands?
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Mr Scumbag on May 09, 2015, 11:08:55 PM
A podcast of Theseus.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: The Latinist on May 10, 2015, 08:04:45 AM
On that timescale I think it's possible but unlikely that podcasts as a thing will die off.  One scenario I could see happening, however, is that the show evolves into something bigger—a  professionally-produced radio show, perhaps, or a TV show—which is then dropped.  They might find it hard to go back to being "just a podcast" in that situation.

All in all, though, I would guess it's more likely they'll be around another ten years than not.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 12, 2015, 04:27:55 PM
As I missed the early part of the live streaming show, the latest podcast was informative.

Jay: "Let's all commit to making this podcast for five more years!"
Steve: "Jay, I'm into this indefinitely."

(Not exact quotes, but from my fallible memory.)
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 28, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
On that timescale I think it's possible but unlikely that podcasts as a thing will die off.  One scenario I could see happening, however, is that the show evolves into something bigger—a  professionally-produced radio show, perhaps, or a TV show—which is then dropped.  They might find it hard to go back to being "just a podcast" in that situation.

All in all, though, I would guess it's more likely they'll be around another ten years than not.

Hmm, maybe they will evolve to a membership organization, though centered around the podcast? The seed (http://www.theskepticsguide.org/member-subscription) is there!
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Eternally Learning on May 28, 2015, 06:19:17 PM
I'm sure that they want to keep it around in one form or another and as the only Rogue to have left so far was the only Rogue with significant outside projects and the only one who joined after it started, I'm fairly certain that barring life-changes the 3 guys will not just leave.  I think the real question is whether or not it will still be a podcast or will it move onto another form of show.  Will podcasts even be around in 10 years even?  For all we know they may evolve into something better.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 29, 2015, 12:12:54 PM
Will podcasts even be around in 10 years even?  For all we know they may evolve into something better.

Possibly. After all the predecessor of the SGU was a newsletter written by Steve for the NESS. SGU was originally associated with the NESS, but from what I understand it is now its own thing.
Title: Re: Will the SGU still be around for a 20 year anniversary?
Post by: Gerbig on May 29, 2015, 07:33:13 PM
I think it will be like a restored car. All new parts, built on the original frame, but still running.