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Title: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: wastrel on February 05, 2016, 12:35:02 AM
Please tell us how we can make this forum a better place to spout off your opinion, and read the opinions of others.

This is a place for technical criticism.  Bear in mind I am asking for technical suggestions, not changes in discussion moderation.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 05, 2016, 07:14:20 AM
I really like the print view for longer threads, enabling me to cut through the nonsense and just read the posts (especially helpful in mafia).  Not really a suggestion, just a feature that I know is semi obscure, but I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: starnado on February 05, 2016, 07:47:22 AM
For Personal Messages:

could you set 'save a copy in my outbox' to be ticked by default?
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Redamare on February 05, 2016, 09:51:13 AM
^This.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
For Personal Messages:

could you set 'save a copy in my outbox' to be ticked by default?

You can do this for your account under Profile > Account Settings > Modify Profile > Personal Messaging.  I do not believe there is a way to change this for the whole board.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Sordid on February 05, 2016, 10:47:27 AM
The post preview lies about embedding videos. If I try to put a youtube link into a [url][/url] tag, in preview it'll show up as a link. In the actual post it'll show up as an embedded video. It would be nice if the preview didn't lie. Pick a behavior, I don't care which, and stick to it consistently.

Also, the [noembed] tag doesn't seem to work.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: starnado on February 05, 2016, 10:48:31 AM
For Personal Messages:

could you set 'save a copy in my outbox' to be ticked by default?

You can do this for your account under Profile > Account Settings > Modify Profile > Personal Messaging.  I do not believe there is a way to change this for the whole board.
I have fixed mine but after each crash I lost a couple of messages before I realized. Same when I first joined. But if it is not possible? Never mind.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: wastrel on February 05, 2016, 11:34:19 AM
The post preview lies about embedding videos. If I try to put a youtube link into a [url][/url] tag, in preview it'll show up as a link. In the actual post it'll show up as an embedded video. It would be nice if the preview didn't lie. Pick a behavior, I don't care which, and stick to it consistently.

Also, the [noembed] tag doesn't seem to work.

We had to change the embed mod we use, the old one was outdated and no longer being updated by the author.  Unfortunately, the mod we use now does not have a noembed feature.  We could try to manually add it, but modding a mod is a good recipe to have to fix it each time there is an update, which to be honest I REALLY hate doing.

I've noticed that the preview thing doesn't work, I'll have to play with that, see if I can figure out how to fix.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
I'd like to add to this discussion the fact that SMF 2.1 is currently in beta.  When it comes out (which, I admit, may still be many months away) it will support truly responsive themes and will sport a whole new WYSIWYG editor and preview engine as well as a host of new features including a real-time messaging system.  There is an extent to which it does not make sense to put a lot of effort into modifying things which will just break with the new update.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: wastrel on February 05, 2016, 11:44:37 AM
Excellent point
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: brilligtove on February 05, 2016, 05:49:12 PM
I personally prefer being able to have threaded conversations, but the linear forum is fine.

TapaTalk has been a usability flustercluck for me, so I don't use it. SMF doesn't do a responsive design for smaller screens, though, so while I can read on my phone, posting is really difficult. Text in the text box is illegibly tiny. Other text is vastly large.

On my iPad I'd love to be able to resize the text box.
On my Android phone I'd love to have the text box have a responsive width.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2016, 06:07:20 PM
Yeah, Brilligtove, I promise I'll make a lovely responsive theme for the forum when SMF 2.1 is released.  But since the theming engine is about to change completely, I can't really justify trying to cobble something together now.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: wastrel on February 05, 2016, 06:15:47 PM
Scalable themes is one of the finer features of the next version IIRC
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: brilligtove on February 05, 2016, 06:24:19 PM
Yeah, Brilligtove, I promise I'll make a lovely responsive theme for the forum when SMF 2.1 is released.  But since the theming engine is about to change completely, I can't really justify trying to cobble something together now.

Cool! I await the new infrastructure with baited breath.

BTW - if you guys are at all interested in some business analysis / design work to be done in preparation for the new infrastructure, I'd be happy to help out. (I'm one of the authors of version 3 of the Business Analysis Body of Knowledge (BABOK® Guide).)
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Captain Video on February 05, 2016, 09:32:05 PM
I know we have mentioned it before but when running a game of mafia the time limit between posts is annoying as is the limit on mass pms.





 
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Johnny Slick on February 05, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
1. Too much moogabytes
2. Too few googabytes
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: brilligtove on February 05, 2016, 10:31:25 PM
1. Too much moogabytes
2. Too few googabytes

so confusion
much delight
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Pusher Robot on February 05, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
- The text editing controls don't work in Edge.
- I still like the old fixed-width theme, for the same reason that newspapers use columns and don't just write 3-line stories across the entire page of newsprint.
- Searching is questionable.
- I like a dark theme, especially on mobile.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
What do wou mean by "text editing controls"?

All of the old themes are still available for your use, in all their dark and fixed-width glory.  I have to say, though, that but a handful of members ever used the dark theme.

The search issue is known and I will continue to look for solutions.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on February 05, 2016, 11:32:43 PM
.gifv embedding would revolutionize my posting!
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2016, 11:50:37 PM
.gifv embedding would revolutionize my posting!

I personally would not be at all in favor of giving posters the power to autoplay videos, which is what "GIFV" does.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Pusher Robot on February 06, 2016, 12:05:36 AM
What do wou mean by "text editing controls"?

The bold, italic, underline buttons for example.  Or the quote button or any of the smileys.  Anything that is supposed to insert BBCode doesn't.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: wastrel on February 06, 2016, 12:14:26 AM
Thanks PR was unaware if this bug
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: The Latinist on February 06, 2016, 01:18:13 AM
You want to take this one, Wastrel? I don't have access to a Win10 machine.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: wastrel on February 06, 2016, 01:20:17 AM
You want to take this one, Wastrel? I don't have access to a Win10 machine.

Yeah i'll confirm and look into it
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on February 06, 2016, 02:10:54 AM
How about a stylesheet that's all black with lime green text and borders?  That'd look old school and be easy on the eyes.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Anders on February 12, 2016, 05:52:16 AM
Is there any way to change the forum so the moderators' comments are delivered through interpretative dance?
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: SkeptiQueer on February 12, 2016, 06:22:59 AM
I lack the ability to give a vocal impression of an intended onomatopoeia, or to signal that an all-caps rant was delivered via shift key and not by capslock. I require both of these
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on February 16, 2016, 06:40:35 AM
Likes Received should be sortable by No. of Likes. 

A man gets curious about these things. 
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: wastrel on February 17, 2016, 07:46:40 PM
What do wou mean by "text editing controls"?

The bold, italic, underline buttons for example.  Or the quote button or any of the smileys.  Anything that is supposed to insert BBCode doesn't.

Think I got this one fixed. 

PR, can you clear your cache in Edge, and give it a shot?
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: AQB24712 on February 17, 2016, 08:46:27 PM
Is there any way to change the forum so the moderators' comments are delivered through interpretative dance?

(http://www.omigu.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Omigu.com-gif-25.gif)
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Boßel on February 17, 2016, 09:31:12 PM
Is there any way to change the forum so the moderators' comments are delivered through interpretative dance?

(http://www.omigu.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Omigu.com-gif-25.gif)

This either means "no" or "I have to pee"
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Beleth on February 18, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
Now that I've had a while to experience it, I prefer the old fixed-width formatting better.

The WAP2 setup ignores ignore lists.

The woman in AQB's video above has her vibrator set too high.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: brilligtove on February 18, 2016, 01:05:51 PM
Now that I've had a while to experience it, I prefer the old fixed-width formatting better.

The WAP2 setup ignores ignore lists.

The woman in AQB's video above has her vibrator set too high.

That third point - how does one access that particular element of functionality that this site provides?

::interest piqued::
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: The Latinist on February 18, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
Now that I've had a while to experience it, I prefer the old fixed-width formatting better.

Luckily for you the old themes are all still there and perfectly functional. :)
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Dan I on February 19, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
I propose a special section of the forum simply for Awesome220 and his various sockpuppets. Rather than banning him just restrict him to that single area so we can all watch the train wreck.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Beleth on February 19, 2016, 03:14:12 PM
Now that I've had a while to experience it, I prefer the old fixed-width formatting better.

Luckily for you the old themes are all still there and perfectly functional. :)

Oh! Indeed they are. Thanks for reminding me!
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Johnny Slick on February 19, 2016, 03:30:58 PM
I propose a special section of the forum simply for Awesome220 and his various sockpuppets. Rather than banning him just restrict him to that single area so we can all watch the train wreck.
Along those lines, how compatible is this software with the concept of shadowbanning the way they do in reddit? The awesome220s of the world still post and believe that they are still responding to / insulting people but nobody else ever actually sees their crap.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Redamare on February 19, 2016, 04:09:11 PM
That sounds kind of nefarious to me.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on February 19, 2016, 04:20:14 PM
Sometimes you have to do something bad to prevent something worse from happening.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Johnny Slick on February 19, 2016, 05:11:44 PM
That sounds kind of nefarious to me.
It's kind of hilarious inasmuch as oftentimes those people take *weeks* to figure out that nobody's responding to them because they can't read the drivel they're posting. I mean, I shouldn't think it'd be implemented on anyone but serial offenders like A220.
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: HighPockets on February 19, 2016, 05:57:19 PM
Would it be possible, that if someone posted only in all caps that post could be automatically ignored as well?
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: brilligtove on February 19, 2016, 06:08:26 PM
Would it be possible, that if someone posted only in all caps that post could be automatically ignored as well?

I DEFEET UR SYSTEM BY QUOTIGN YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Title: Re: Critique this forum (technically)
Post by: Pusher Robot on February 19, 2016, 07:19:35 PM
What do wou mean by "text editing controls"?

The bold, italic, underline buttons for example.  Or the quote button or any of the smileys.  Anything that is supposed to insert BBCode doesn't.

Think I got this one fixed. 

PR, can you clear your cache in Edge, and give it a shot?

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