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Title: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on February 26, 2017, 12:05:40 PM
Actor Bill Paxton, 61, has died after complications from surgery - LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-bill-paxton-20170226-story.html

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Bill Paxton, who earned success through roles in movies including “Titanic,” “Weird Science,” “Twister” and “True Lies,” as well as that of a polygamist Mormon businessman in the hit HBO series “Big Love,” has died.

"Game over, man."
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on February 27, 2017, 03:15:10 PM
Neil Fingleton, one of Britain’s tallest men and an actor who was best known for playing the giant Mag the Mighty on HBO’s “Game of Thrones,” has died.
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-neil-fingleton-20170227-story.html

The 7-foot-7-inch actor died Saturday, according to the Associated Press. He was 36. The cause of death was heart failure, according to British media reports.
Neil Fingleton, 'Game of Thrones' giant and a former basketball player, dies at 36 - LA Times
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Post by: Ah.hell on February 27, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Actor Bill Paxton, 61, has died after complications from surgery - LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-bill-paxton-20170226-story.html

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Bill Paxton, who earned success through roles in movies including “Titanic,” “Weird Science,” “Twister” and “True Lies,” as well as that of a polygamist Mormon businessman in the hit HBO series “Big Love,” has died.

"Game over, man."
And his greatest role ever, a redneck vampire in Near Dark.  "Woohee!. Looks like Shit-kicker heaven!"  Just before the redneck vampires kill everyone in a redneck bar. 
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on February 28, 2017, 05:52:58 PM
Chez Pazienza

Of the Bob and Chez podcast. Dang. Fucking Chez.

http://www.bobcesca.com/the-bubble-genius-bob-chez-show-archive
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 06, 2017, 02:41:45 PM
Robert Osborne of Turner Classic Movies passed at 84


Robert Osborne dies at 84; genial student of films hosted Turner Classic Movies - LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-me-robert-osborne-dies-20170306-story.html
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 18, 2017, 08:56:17 PM
Chuck Berry dies at 90, a founding father of rock 'n' roll

http://lat.ms/2n1VAeT


Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on April 06, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Don Rickles, aggressively caustic comedian known as 'Mr. Warmth,' dies at 90 - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/la-me-don-rickles-snap-20170406-story.html)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on April 11, 2017, 08:07:19 PM
  J. Geils


J. Geils Band founder dead at 71 - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-j-geils-band-dead-20170411-story.html)

 :(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on April 12, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
Charlie Murphy (Eddy Murphy's older brother Brother, best know for "Chappelle's Show")



Comedian Charlie Murphy, brother of Eddie, dies at 57 - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-comedian-charlie-murphy-dies-20170412-story.html)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: superdave on April 16, 2017, 03:51:49 PM
Alan Holdsworth, R.I.P

I admit, I could never quite absorb myself into his music but I certainly admired his skill and impact in the musical world.

The guy could just directly transcribe his inner music to his guitar.  His skill was uncanny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL6dy1J_dxU
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on April 20, 2017, 11:54:38 PM
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cuba-gooding-sr-20170420-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cuba-gooding-sr-20170420-story.html)

Soul singer Cuba Gooding Sr., 72, found dead inside car in Woodland Hills
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on May 18, 2017, 09:34:32 AM
Roger Ailes, former Fox News chief, dies at 77 

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-me-roger-ailes-dies-20170518-story.html
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Drunken Idaho on May 18, 2017, 02:55:58 PM
Chris Cornell (Soundgarden, Audioslave) dead at 52, suicide suspected.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/arts/music/chris-cornell-dead-soundgarden.html?_r=0 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/arts/music/chris-cornell-dead-soundgarden.html?_r=0)

Dude had a hell of a voice.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on May 27, 2017, 04:08:45 PM
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-gregg-allman-2050-story.html

Greg Allman. :(


Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on May 27, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-zbigniew-brzezinski-20170526-story.html

Zbigniew Brzezinski. 89


Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: lonely moa on May 29, 2017, 05:38:26 PM
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-gregg-allman-2050-story.html

Greg Allman. :(


Your mileage may vary.

Bummer.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on June 10, 2017, 12:22:06 PM

Adam West, who donned a cape, cowl and tights to became an overnight sensation in 1966 as the star of the campy “Batman” TV series, has died, according to a family statement. He was 88.


http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-adam-west-snap-story.html
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on July 15, 2017, 09:36:42 PM
Maryam Mirzakhani, Fields Medal Recipient, Dead at 40 (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/15/us/mirzakhani-obituary-first-woman-win-math-prize/index.html)

She was the first and only woman to win the Fields Medal.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: fuzzyMarmot on July 15, 2017, 10:38:47 PM
Miriam Mirzakhani, Fields Medal Recipient, Dead at 40 (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/15/us/mirzakhani-obituary-first-woman-win-math-prize/index.html)

She was the first and only woman to win the Fields Medal.

This is stunning and tragic. Dr. Mirzakhani was one of the most brilliant minds of her generation. She is gone far too soon.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on July 16, 2017, 12:42:02 AM
40 is super young.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on July 16, 2017, 10:47:10 AM
40 is super young.

Sadly, there are cancers that strike women, especially, in the prime.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: superdave on July 16, 2017, 01:34:05 PM
This one sucks hard.  She will be missed.
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Post by: Tassie Dave on July 16, 2017, 08:21:28 PM
George A. Romero gone at 77.

Father of the Zombie Film. He was the the director of zombie classics "Night of the Living Dead" and "Dawn of the Dead" and many others

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-17/george-a-romero-father-of-zombie-films-dies-aged-77/8714230


Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on July 16, 2017, 11:29:43 PM
Academy Award winner Martin Landau dead at 89.

Best known for his award winning movie role in "Ed Wood" and on TV in "Mission: Impossible" and "Space 1999"

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/martin-landau-dead-dies-ed-wood-mission-impossible-1202497128/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 08, 2017, 04:23:49 PM
Glen Campbell, dead at 81

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on August 08, 2017, 04:41:15 PM
Glen Campbell, dead at 81

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/)

That's a tough one.  My parents took me to several Glenn Campbell concerts when I was young.  I always loved his work.

https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,49102.0.html

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Mr. Beagle on August 08, 2017, 04:55:58 PM
Glen Campbell, dead at 81

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/glen-campbell-dead/)

That's a tough one.  My parents took me to several Glenn Campbell concerts when I was young.  I always loved his work.

Campbell had a great career before his public career. He was part of the "Wrecking Crew" studio musicians in LA and played guitar on Beach Boys records, before briefly replacing Brian Wilson in the touring Beach Boys when Brian was "under the weather."

The 2014 documentary "It'll Be Me" is tough to watch but good. Campbell is on his last tour while struggling with Alzheimers. It is a frank documentary, including showing that his randy desires for his wife continued with little mental brake on his behavior.

My sister, before succumbing to early Alzheimers, also exhibited behaviors that she would never have allowed to be public earlier. We are fragile creatures, and with Alzheimers, our dignity is one of the first things to go.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on August 08, 2017, 04:57:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoUqU4gg3Q
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 20, 2017, 04:32:55 PM
Jerry Lewis at 91

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-jerry-lewis-20170820-story.html


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 24, 2017, 07:26:38 PM


Jay Thomas, actor in 'Cheers,' 'Murphy Brown' and 'Ray Donovan,' dead at 69 - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-jay-thomas-20170824-story.html)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on August 25, 2017, 01:33:10 AM
Death really sucks.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on September 15, 2017, 06:23:22 PM
Harry Dean Stanton  :(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on September 15, 2017, 06:47:02 PM
Harry Dean Stanton  :(

Would have to be one of the greatest character actors ever

and prolific. Look at the length of his IMBD page. There were no gaps in his career, right up to the very end at 91.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001765/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on September 15, 2017, 07:19:15 PM
Ahhhh damn.  He was so great in Big Love.  As was Bill Paxton.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on September 15, 2017, 08:25:25 PM


Legendary character actor Harry Dean Stanton dead at 91 - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-harry-dean-stanton-20170915-story.html)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on September 16, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0DfdSiD.jpg)

"I'm 87 years old...I only eat so I can smoke and stay alive.. The only fear I have is how long consciousness is gonna hang on after my body goes. I just hope there's nothing. Like there was before I was born. I'm not really into religion, they're all macrocosms of the ego. When man began to think he was a separate person with a separate soul, it created a violent situation.

The void, the concept of nothingness, is terrifying to most people on the planet. And I get anxiety attacks myself. I know the fear of that void. You have to learn to die before you die. You give up, surrender to the void, to nothingness.

Anybody else you've interviewed bring these things up? Hang on, I gotta take this call..... Hey, brother. That's great, man. Yeah, I'm being interviewed... We're talking about nothing. I've got him well-steeped in nothing right now. He's stopped asking questions."

- HARRY DEAN STANTON
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on September 16, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
Do you have a source for that, John?
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on September 16, 2017, 05:58:36 PM
Do you have a source for that, John?

Most of it is quotes from a November 7, 2008 interview with Cal Fussman of Esquire magazine.
It does seem to have been edited to make his age current at the time it got posted around social media in 2014

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/interviews/a5459/harry-dean-stanton-quotes-0109/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on September 27, 2017, 11:42:41 PM
Hugh Hefner, Playboy founder, dies at 91
http://lat.ms/2xyn0z1


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on September 30, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-monty-hall-snap-story.html

Monty Hall


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on October 02, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
Tom Petty (https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,49317.0.html), God Dammit.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on October 02, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
Tom Petty (https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,49317.0.html), God Dammit.

:(

Although it's odd, CBS deleted the tweet where they first reported the death, and I'm not sure there has been independent confirmation yet.

But still, :(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on October 02, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
Tom Petty clinging to life. They've pulled the plug. :(

http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/02/tom-petty-found-unconscious-full-cardiac-arrest/

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1:35 PM PT -- Sources tell us at 10:30 Monday morning a chaplain was called to Tom's hospital room. We're told the family has a do not resuscitate order on Tom. The singer is not expected to live throughout the day, but he's still clinging to life. A report that the LAPD confirmed the singer's death is inaccurate -- the L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. handled the emergency.
12:30 PM PT -- We're told after Petty got to the hospital he had no brain activity and a decision was made to pull life support. 

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on October 02, 2017, 07:37:43 PM
Yeah, he was a damn good songwriter.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on October 03, 2017, 01:01:57 AM
https://twitter.com/tompetty/status/915072929120972801
Title: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on November 20, 2017, 12:58:02 AM
Charles Manson


http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-charles-manson-20171119-story.html

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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on November 20, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
I didn't see this posted. Malcom Young AC/DC

 http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/18/entertainment/ac-dc-guitarist-malcolm-young-dies (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/18/entertainment/ac-dc-guitarist-malcolm-young-dies)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on November 20, 2017, 12:55:48 PM
Charles Manson


http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-charles-manson-20171119-story.html

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I guess Trump cannot pardon him and make him FBI director?

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Post by: The Latinist on November 20, 2017, 08:48:54 PM
Della Reese.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on November 21, 2017, 09:01:52 PM
David Cassidy at 67. Confirmed.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on November 30, 2017, 03:37:32 PM
Surprise, surprise, surprise!  (I thought had he was already gone)

Jim Nabors, TV's lovably naive Gomer Pyle, dies at 87 – LA Times (http://beta.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-jim-nabors-snap-story.html#nt=oft12aH-2gp2)
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Jim Nabors, the singer and actor who became a TV icon in the 1960s playing the lovably naïve Gomer Pyle on “The Andy Griffith Show” and the spinoff series “Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.,” has died. He was 87.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on December 29, 2017, 12:13:46 AM
Rose Marie. Some of you are too young to appreciate her.

Rose Marie, co-star of 'The Dick Van Dyke Show,' dies at 94

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-me-rose-marie-snap-20171228-story.html


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on December 29, 2017, 04:06:02 PM
I was surprised she was still alive. They did a short interview on NPR morning edition from a few years ago.
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Post by: HighPockets on December 30, 2017, 01:51:30 PM
Sue Grafton

http://www.lex18.com/story/37160199/kentucky-author-sue-grafton-dies-at-77

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The first book in the Kinsey Millhone books, "A is for Alibi" was released in 1982. The final book in the series "Z is for Zero" was scheduled to be released in 2019, but it remains unfinished.

I quit reading them after C, but I'm very sad to hear that she hadn't finished Z.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on December 31, 2017, 06:21:55 PM
A little note related to this, with the death of Emma Morano this year, there is nobody alive who was alive in the 1800s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Morano
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on December 31, 2017, 06:33:47 PM
A little note related to this, with the death of Emma Morano this year, there is nobody alive who was alive in the 1800s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Morano

I had a thread about that back when she died.

https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,48531.msg9492032.html#msg9492032

With the death of Violet Brown in September last year (It is 2018 for me now), there is now only 1 person in the world who was born in the 19th century. Nabi Tajima who was born August 4th 1900

the next oldest Chiyo Miyak was born May 2 1901

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on December 31, 2017, 07:51:20 PM
World War I is almost past living memory as well.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on January 01, 2018, 08:33:19 AM
And 1918 flu pandemic. Although it lasted a bit longer.
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Post by: Friendly Angel on January 03, 2018, 04:49:04 PM
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SALT LAKE CITY — Thomas S. Monson, considered a prophet by nearly 16 million Mormons worldwide, has died at the age of 90 after a nearly a decade as church president. He expanded the church’s reach and its transparency and was known for promoting humanitarian causes despite leading a divisive fight against gay marriage.

Shakeup or not?
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: HighPockets on January 03, 2018, 05:52:39 PM
Shakeup or not?

Probably not. I read somewhere that they already have someone lined up, although I think it said that he was 94 years old, so that seems kind of weird.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on January 03, 2018, 05:53:52 PM
Shakeup or not?

Probably not. I read somewhere that they already have someone lined up, although I think it said that he was 94 years old, so that seems kind of weird.

Maybe that means they only want a figurehead, not a leader.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: HighPockets on January 03, 2018, 06:07:45 PM
Shakeup or not?

Probably not. I read somewhere that they already have someone lined up, although I think it said that he was 94 years old, so that seems kind of weird.

Maybe that means they only want a figurehead, not a leader.

Yeah, apparently he's got some "seniority" but he ain't no prophet...or maybe he is...

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He is likely to be succeeded by 93-year-old Russell Nelson, who is now the longest-serving member of the church's governing body.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42553059
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Mr. Beagle on January 06, 2018, 12:36:21 PM
Shakeup or not?

Probably not. I read somewhere that they already have someone lined up, although I think it said that he was 94 years old, so that seems kind of weird.
The Mormon line of succession is quite fixed. It will be the next-longest serving member in the "Quorum of 12 Apostles," although it technically has 14 at that point, since the two counselors to the current prophet revert back to Apostle until the new guy is designated and chooses two counselors.

An LDS high priest co-worker explained it to me this way. God decides who lives and who dies. Therefore whoever God decides to let survive until he reaches the top MUST be who God wants. Impeccable logic.

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/additional-resource/succession-in-the-presidency-of-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on January 07, 2018, 02:42:56 AM
John Young, the 9th man to walk on the moon has died at the age of 87

He was the only person to have piloted, and been commander of, four different classes of spacecraft: Gemini, the Apollo Command/Service Module, the Apollo Lunar Module, and the Space Shuttle.
He flew on 6 missions: Gemini 3, Gemini 10, Apollo 10, Apollo 16, STS-1 & STS-9

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-07/john-young-legendary-nasa-astronaut-moon-walker-dies-aged-87/9309180

This now leaves only 5 men alive, of the 12 who walked on the moon

With John Youngs death, Jim Lovell is now the only man alive who flew to the moon twice.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on January 07, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
Worf's son, John Paul Steur, died (http://amp.timeinc.net/nme/news/film/jon-paul-steur-has-died-aged-33-2206669?source=dam).  At age 33, which is way young.

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on January 22, 2018, 05:13:52 PM
Barry Williams (https://www.skeptics.com.au/2018/01/21/vale-barry-williams/).
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Ah.hell on January 22, 2018, 05:23:56 PM
I thought you meant TV's Greg Brady. 

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on January 23, 2018, 06:20:08 PM
Hugh Masekela Died. He had one big hit in the late 60's here in the US that I liked, called "Grazing in the Grass".
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8095489/hugh-masekela-south-african-jazz-legend-dies-78 (ftp://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8095489/hugh-masekela-south-african-jazz-legend-dies-78)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcGCObEb28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcGCObEb28)

Then there is the vocal version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjYrski71II (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjYrski71II)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on January 23, 2018, 06:33:44 PM
Ursula K. LeGuin (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/obituaries/ursula-k-le-guin-acclaimed-for-her-fantasy-fiction-is-dead-at-88.html)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on January 23, 2018, 06:37:10 PM
Hugh Masekela Died. He had one big hit in the late 60's here in the US that I liked, called "Grazing in the Grass".
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8095489/hugh-masekela-south-african-jazz-legend-dies-78 (ftp://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8095489/hugh-masekela-south-african-jazz-legend-dies-78)



Thanks for posting those tracks, I didn't recognize him or the title, but as soon as it started playing I remembered it from back in the day.

I can dig it!
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on January 23, 2018, 07:45:36 PM
Ursula K. LeGuin (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/obituaries/ursula-k-le-guin-acclaimed-for-her-fantasy-fiction-is-dead-at-88.html)

Aww man.  She is so awesome.  A great loss to Sci-Fi and literature.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on January 24, 2018, 04:37:36 PM
Mark E. Smith (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/24/mark-e-smith-lead-singer-with-the-fall-dies-aged-60)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pem02CWn4Do
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on January 24, 2018, 05:01:55 PM
I should try to read The Wizard of Earthsea again.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on January 26, 2018, 02:24:22 PM

Warren Miller, the ski bum whose films made him king of the slopes, dies at 93 (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-warren-miller-snap-story.html)

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on January 27, 2018, 09:32:11 PM

Warren Miller, the ski bum whose films made him king of the slopes, dies at 93 (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-warren-miller-snap-story.html)

I remember those films they were fun to watch
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Friendly Angel on February 05, 2018, 08:07:15 PM
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LOS ANGELES — John Mahoney, who as the cranky, blue-collar dad in “Frasier” played counterpoint to pompous sons Frasier and Niles, has died. Mahoney was 77.

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on February 06, 2018, 10:25:57 AM
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LOS ANGELES — John Mahoney, who as the cranky, blue-collar dad in “Frasier” played counterpoint to pompous sons Frasier and Niles, has died. Mahoney was 77.

I saw him in Harold Pinter's The Birthday Party at the Steppenwolf Theatre back in 2013. His role was minor, but he was very good.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on February 06, 2018, 10:31:34 AM
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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on February 12, 2018, 01:38:12 PM
Vic Damone

Vic Damone, the legendary crooner admired by Sinatra, dead at 89 (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-vic-damone-20180212-story.html)
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Vic Damone, the enduring postwar lounge singer whose mellow baritone once earned praise from Frank Sinatra as "the best pipes in the business," has died in Florida at the age of 89.
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Post by: CarbShark on February 21, 2018, 10:17:42 AM
Billy Graham at 99

Billy Graham, minister to presidents and millions worldwide, dies at 99http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-billy-graham-20180221-story.html


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on March 03, 2018, 09:29:32 PM
David Ogden Stiers dead at 75

Great actor gone too soon  :( He had many great roles. but he'll always be Major Charles Emerson Winchester III to me.

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/david-ogden-stiers-dead-dies-mash-1202716860/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: st3class on March 04, 2018, 01:04:01 AM
David Ogden Stiers dead at 75

Great actor gone too soon  :( He had many great roles. but he'll always be Major Charles Emerson Winchester III to me.

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/david-ogden-stiers-dead-dies-mash-1202716860/

I was in a show with him in college (This was in 2008, I was in college, he was doing the director a favor) Nice guy, really sharp wit. He gave me a lot of coaching and shook my hand back stage right before the last performance. That's always meant a lot to me.
Title: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 14, 2018, 12:05:49 AM
Stephen Hawking - 76

Stephen Hawking dies; cosmologist's theories on black holes gained wide acclaim

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-stephen-hawking-20180313-story.html
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on March 14, 2018, 03:18:26 AM
Stephen Hawking - 76

This is a rough one.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on March 14, 2018, 06:15:20 AM
I posted this elsewhere but though I should post this here as well

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43376105

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Oskar Gröning: 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz' dies at 96

The former Nazi officer began work at Auschwitz at the age of 21. During his trial, he said he had witnessed mass killings, but denied any direct role in the genocide.

Addressing the judges, he said: "I ask for forgiveness. I share morally in the guilt - but whether I am guilty under criminal law, you will have to decide."

Hawkings dying is very sad
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on March 14, 2018, 01:52:49 PM
Venturas lead guitarist  Nokia Edwards dead at age 82.

   http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-nokie-edwards-ventures-obituary-20180312-story.html   (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-nokie-edwards-ventures-obituary-20180312-story.html)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on April 21, 2018, 04:52:50 PM
Verne Troyer dies at 49  :(

Best remembered as Mini-Me from the Austin Powers movies

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/verne-troyer-dead-dies-mini-me-austin-powers-1202778757/

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on April 23, 2018, 08:22:12 PM
Harry Anderson "Night Court"

Director Milos Foreman, "One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest"

(Haven't seen these here)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on May 14, 2018, 02:13:32 PM

Actress Margot Kidder, Lois Lane to Christopher Reeve's Superman, dies at 69 (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-me-margot-kidder-20180514-story.html)
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Margot Kidder, the actress who reached new heights with her seminal performance as Lois Lane opposite Christopher Reeve in "Superman:The Movie," died Sunday. She was 69.
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Post by: wastrel on May 14, 2018, 05:59:38 PM
Frightened Rabbit’s Scott Hutchison Dead at 36 (https://pitchfork.com/news/body-found-in-search-for-frightened-rabbits-scott-hutchison/)

He openly struggled with depression and anxiety, and his friend's and bandmates feared for his stability when he dissapeared last Wednesday.  Found dead at a marina on Friday.  No official statement yet on cause of death, but his family is implying his mental state was at least a contributing factor in his death.

I knew only a few of their songs, but coincidentally just watched a great rendition of Modern Leaper on The AV Club just last week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmw5zQWcyo
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: gebobs on May 15, 2018, 02:04:58 PM
http://www.latimes.com/calendarfeedback[/url]

Actress Margot Kidder, Lois Lane to Christopher Reeve's Superman, dies at 69 (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-me-margot-kidder-20180514-story.html)
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Margot Kidder, the actress who reached new heights with her seminal performance as Lois Lane opposite Christopher Reeve in "Superman:The Movie," died Sunday. She was 69.

Despite being a self-professed atheist, she curiously appeared in the movie Apocalypse III: Tribulation. I think she thought it was supposed to be a spoof. With Gary Busey and Howie Mandel in the cast, it was either going to be that or a disaster. It turned out to be the latter.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: HighPockets on May 15, 2018, 04:11:12 PM
Tom Wolfe, he wrote a lot of stuff that changed my mind about a lot of stuff.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/obituaries/tom-wolfe-pyrotechnic-nonfiction-writer-and-novelist-dies-at-88.html
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Tassie Dave on May 27, 2018, 12:03:41 AM
Alan Bean the 4th man to walk on the moon dies at 86 :(

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/family-release-regarding-the-passing-of-apollo-skylab-astronaut-alan-bean

There are now only 4 men alive who walked on the moon.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Rai on June 08, 2018, 07:41:59 AM
Anthony Bourdain, probably the most entertaining of the 'celebrity chefs' and an amazingly talented writer and television personality died of a suspected suicide.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44414747

I am quite bummed out, I did like his series a lot. Depression is a horrifying thing.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on June 21, 2018, 06:28:39 PM
Not a surprise


Charles Krauthammer Dies at Age 68: Fox News Remembers the Beloved Commentator | Fox News Insider (http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/21/charles-krauthammer-dead-age-68-fox-news-remembers-special-report-commentator)
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Charles Krauthammer, one of the most influential political analysts of the modern era and a longtime favorite of Fox News Channel viewers, passed away Thursday at age 68 after a battle with cancer.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: brilligtove on June 21, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
The Gorilla Foundation is sad to announce the passing of our beloved Koko (http://www.koko.org/gorilla-foundation-sad-announce-passing-our-beloved-koko)

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Woodside, CA      Koko — the gorilla known for her extraordinary mastery of sign language, and as the primary ambassador for her endangered species — passed away yesterday morning in her sleep at the age of 46.
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Post by: Friendly Angel on June 21, 2018, 07:18:01 PM

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Charles Krauthammer, one of the most influential political analysts of the modern era and a longtime favorite of Fox News Channel viewers, passed away Thursday at age 68 after a battle with cancer.

Doctors gave him a 2-week notice two weeks ago; I think that's about the perfect amount of warning.

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Krauthammer has stated that "atheism is the least plausible of all theologies. I mean, there are a lot of wild ones out there, but the one that clearly runs so contrary to what is possible, is atheism"
   ::)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: HighPockets on June 21, 2018, 09:43:11 PM
I'm much more sad about the gorilla.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: wastrel on June 23, 2018, 01:08:27 AM
Pantera drummer Vinnie Paul dies at 54 (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8462386/vinnie-paul-dead-pantera-damageplan-hellyeah)

 :'( :'(

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on June 28, 2018, 03:30:07 PM
Just a rumor at this point, but Harlan Ellison is reported to have died

 :'(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on June 28, 2018, 03:48:58 PM
Confirmed.


Harlan Ellison Dies at 84 | CBR (https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/)

(https://static3.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/harlan-ellison-don-heck-display.jpg)

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Harlan Ellison, one of the most influential sci-fi writers of the twentieth century, passed away today in his sleep. He was 84 years old.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on June 28, 2018, 06:00:29 PM
Confirmed.


Harlan Ellison Dies at 84 | CBR (https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/)

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Harlan Ellison, one of the most influential sci-fi writers of the twentieth century, passed away today in his sleep. He was 84 years old.

Bummer. He was often a bit of a dick, but I always felt that he was our dick.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on June 28, 2018, 06:04:09 PM
Just a rumor at this point, but Harlan Ellison is reported to have died

 :'(
Just coming here to report that.

http://comicbook.com/dc/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-star-trek-avengers-batman-writer-dead/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on June 28, 2018, 06:54:07 PM
"For a brief time, I was here; and, for a brief time, I mattered."
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: amysrevenge on June 28, 2018, 06:55:32 PM
I'm interested to see what the only blogger I follow has to say in the days or weeks to come.

https://www.newsfromme.com/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-r-i-p/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on July 02, 2018, 08:08:01 PM
Rumors of another big one not yet confirmed. This will be big. Stay tuned


 Never mind. False alarm, no confirmation. :-[
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on July 21, 2018, 11:15:45 PM

Los Angeles Times restaurant critic Jonathan Gold dies at 57 (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-fo-jonathan-gold-obit-20180721-story.html)
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Food criticism before him — and even during his time — focused on the austere, the high-end, the Michelin stars. Gold redefined the genre, drawn more to hole-in-the-wall joints, street food, mom-and-pop shops and ethnic restaurants than he was to haute cuisine. Although he appreciated and wrote beautifully about fine dining, he revered the taco truck more than the tasting menu.



To be a writer in Los Angeles is to contend with the words of Jonathan Gold (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/miranda/la-et-cam-tribute-jonathan-gold-20180721-story.html)


Gold's reviews were playful, passionate and a fine reflection of the city he roamed. Here's a sampling (http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-fo-jonathan-gold-favorites-20180721-htmlstory.html)
A sad day for LA


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 16, 2018, 01:10:04 PM


From McCartney to Streisand, the world mourns Aretha Franklin as 'the queen of our souls' (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-aretha-franklin-dies-reactions-20180816-story.html)


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Fans of legendary singer Aretha Franklin in Hollywood and beyond said little prayers of gratitude for the “Respect”-demanding singer, who died at age 76 on Thursday of advanced pancreatic cancer.

Music icons across genres — Diana Ross, Paul McCartney, Annie Lennox and Faith Hill — tweeted about her impact on their community and the void her death leaves behind.

 :'(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on August 16, 2018, 01:19:50 PM
WHAT!  Aww man.  She just released a song didn't she?

EDIT: Yup from her new album. (https://www.jambase.com/article/aretha-franklin-retire-releasing-new-album)  Then she was gonna retire.  Man what a loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBbyglq37E

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on August 18, 2018, 09:56:15 AM
Kofi Annan, former U.N. Secretary General, 80 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/former-united-nations-secretary-general-kofi-annan-dies-80-n901856)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on August 25, 2018, 08:44:38 PM
Sen. John McCain, 81 (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/25/obituaries/john-mccain-dead.html)

I have complicated feelings about McCain.  He held some principled stances, and his bipartisan work on campaign finance reform was laudable.  In 2000 I supported his primary candidacy, but sometime between them and 2008 he decided to sell his principles for the presidential nomination. It was sad to watch.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: brilligtove on August 25, 2018, 09:38:40 PM
He seems to have held to something like principles in the last few years. On the whole - and with very limited knowledge - I'd say he's an honorable person.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 25, 2018, 10:10:30 PM


John McCain, war hero, political maverick and GOP standard-bearer, dies at 81 (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-john-mccain-20180825-story.html)

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Arizona Sen. John McCain, who survived 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam to become one of the highest-profile, most confounding and pugnacious personalities in politics, has succumbed to brain cancer.


Fuck cancer.

Not bad for a Republican. Was glad he never became President, although we would have been better than the last two Republicans and as good as the two before them.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Rai on August 26, 2018, 04:22:34 AM


John McCain, war hero, political maverick and GOP standard-bearer, dies at 81 (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-john-mccain-20180825-story.html)

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Arizona Sen. John McCain, who survived 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam to become one of the highest-profile, most confounding and pugnacious personalities in politics, has succumbed to brain cancer.


Fuck cancer.

Not bad for a Republican. Was glad he never became President, although we would have been better than the last two Republicans and as good as the two before them.

He started his career voluntarily lobbing bombs at cities in an evil, purely imperialist war. Then as a politician, he opposed MLK day, stole indigenous lands, supported the Contras and Pinochet, elevated the Tea Party into the Republican mainstream and gleefully voted with Trump most of the time while posturing as some sort of decent person

He will not be missed in any way.

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on August 26, 2018, 05:42:34 AM
I too have mixed feelings, and there's always the sentiment of "they just died, shut up/leave their family to their grieving". Which would be easier to stick to for someone who didn't have the power to influence the lives of millions of people, and still remains a symbol of the politics they were involved with.

There are moments you can patch together and use to present him as a great guy. On one hand McCain was a more honorable man than many of his supporters in the 2008 election. But on the other, how did it get to the point where he had a bunch of bigots supporting him?

When both conservatives and liberals say they didn't agree with his politics, that suggests he did some things the right way, and that he's somewhere in the middle of the political establishment. But when the US system is skewed massively in favor of corporations, the arms industry, rich individuals, and people who are fine with systematic human rights violations, being a moderate isn't all that impressive.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on August 26, 2018, 07:45:41 AM
"Lipstick"
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on August 26, 2018, 10:02:08 AM
There is much that I did not like about McCain.
I do think it interesting that he does not want Trump at his funeral.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 26, 2018, 11:42:54 AM


John McCain, war hero, political maverick and GOP standard-bearer, dies at 81 (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-john-mccain-20180825-story.html)

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Arizona Sen. John McCain, who survived 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam to become one of the highest-profile, most confounding and pugnacious personalities in politics, has succumbed to brain cancer.


Fuck cancer.

Not bad for a Republican. Was glad he never became President, although we would have been better than the last two Republicans and as good as the two before them.

He started his career voluntarily lobbing bombs at cities in an evil, purely imperialist war. Then as a politician, he opposed MLK day, stole indigenous lands, supported the Contras and Pinochet, elevated the Tea Party into the Republican mainstream and gleefully voted with Trump most of the time while posturing as some sort of decent person

No disagreement with any of that.

But, that’s still better than the current President or the previous Republican president and about on par with the two republican before.


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Title: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 26, 2018, 11:48:00 AM
Neil Simon, at 91.

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-neil-simon-20180826-story.html

Neil Simon, whose comic touch in “The Odd Couple,” “Barefoot in the Park” and many other hits on stage and screen made him the most commercially successfully playwright of the 20th century — and perhaps of all time — has died, according to his representative. He was 91.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Harry Black on August 26, 2018, 12:27:55 PM
I too have mixed feelings, and there's always the sentiment of "they just died, shut up/leave their family to their grieving". Which would be easier to stick to for someone who didn't have the power to influence the lives of millions of people, and still remains a symbol of the politics they were involved with.

There are moments you can patch together and use to present him as a great guy. On one hand McCain was a more honorable man than many of his supporters in the 2008 election. But on the other, how did it get to the point where he had a bunch of bigots supporting him?

When both conservatives and liberals say they didn't agree with his politics, that suggests he did some things the right way, and that he's somewhere in the middle of the political establishment. But when the US system is skewed massively in favor of corporations, the arms industry, rich individuals, and people who are fine with systematic human rights violations, being a moderate isn't all that impressive.
I think such moments can be an opportunity to give surviving public figures pause for thought about their legacy and values.
I cant see much other than fawning about McCain. But "good for a republican" isnt good enough.
I think its very fair to talk about his numerous failings and dishonest/cynical voting vs statement record.

He wasnt a good guy. Or if he was then our bar for that is too low.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Rai on August 26, 2018, 02:12:51 PM


John McCain, war hero, political maverick and GOP standard-bearer, dies at 81 (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-john-mccain-20180825-story.html)

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Arizona Sen. John McCain, who survived 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam to become one of the highest-profile, most confounding and pugnacious personalities in politics, has succumbed to brain cancer.


Fuck cancer.

Not bad for a Republican. Was glad he never became President, although we would have been better than the last two Republicans and as good as the two before them.

He started his career voluntarily lobbing bombs at cities in an evil, purely imperialist war. Then as a politician, he opposed MLK day, stole indigenous lands, supported the Contras and Pinochet, elevated the Tea Party into the Republican mainstream and gleefully voted with Trump most of the time while posturing as some sort of decent person

No disagreement with any of that.

But, that’s still better than the current President or the previous Republican president and about on par with the two republican before.


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That says more about the Republican party than about McCain.

They have been rotten to the core for many decades now.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on August 26, 2018, 02:15:22 PM
Older but still should be posted
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/john-mccain-make-believe-maverick-202004/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on August 26, 2018, 03:43:44 PM
Neil Simon, at 91.

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-neil-simon-20180826-story.html

Neil Simon, whose comic touch in “The Odd Couple,” “Barefoot in the Park” and many other hits on stage and screen made him the most commercially successfully playwright of the 20th century — and perhaps of all time — has died, according to his representative. He was 91.

Oh no.  He brought many hours of joy to so many.  Another great loss.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Mr. Beagle on August 26, 2018, 03:46:58 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/obituaries/leonard-boswell-veterans-champion-in-the-house-dies-at-84.html

Because McCain died, I thought I'd post my former congressman's obituary. Leonard Boswell was a decorated Vietnam chopper pilot, a "blue dog" Democrat (moderate/pro-military) and good friend of McCain's (and Nancy Pelosi's). I went to his funeral yesterday, as I knew him well. The Iowa governor, a former senator (Tom Harkin, who did the eulogy), and two sitting congressmen were there, plus lots of state politicians from both parties, and the tales of his true "across the aisle" work were the theme. And personally just the nicest guy with never a hint of corruption. That these people are very rare and getting rarer was on everybody's mind.

And sadly, his wife of 63 years died early on the morning of the funeral, and so her service was incorporated in with it. Quite the moving day, with burial in a small town cemetery with full military honors, and a fly-by of Huey helicopters.

Last note, he had been fighting a very rare form of cancer for 15 years, found mostly in people exposed to Agent Orange. His Vietnam wingman (or helicopter squadron equivalent) also spoke and said that Boswell had been "mortally wounded" in Vietnam, but it took 50 years for him to die.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on August 26, 2018, 06:42:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VkMjgnu.jpg)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on August 26, 2018, 06:45:31 PM
I think we should all take a hard look at McCain's actual past before we go lionizing him as a "maverick" or the least repugnant Republican. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/22/johnmccain.uselections2008

https://theintercept.com/2017/07/27/john-mccain-fake-maverick-horrible-record/

https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/news-brief-dont-let-the-media-erase-mccains-far-right-legacy
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on August 26, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
I too have mixed feelings, and there's always the sentiment of "they just died, shut up/leave their family to their grieving". Which would be easier to stick to for someone who didn't have the power to influence the lives of millions of people, and still remains a symbol of the politics they were involved with.

There are moments you can patch together and use to present him as a great guy. On one hand McCain was a more honorable man than many of his supporters in the 2008 election. But on the other, how did it get to the point where he had a bunch of bigots supporting him?

When both conservatives and liberals say they didn't agree with his politics, that suggests he did some things the right way, and that he's somewhere in the middle of the political establishment. But when the US system is skewed massively in favor of corporations, the arms industry, rich individuals, and people who are fine with systematic human rights violations, being a moderate isn't all that impressive.
I think such moments can be an opportunity to give surviving public figures pause for thought about their legacy and values.
I cant see much other than fawning about McCain. But "good for a republican" isnt good enough.
I think its very fair to talk about his numerous failings and dishonest/cynical voting vs statement record.

He wasnt a good guy. Or if he was then our bar for that is too low.

He was a great man who became a poor politician.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on August 26, 2018, 09:51:50 PM
He was a great man

By what measure? The fact that he got captured and tortured?
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on August 26, 2018, 10:23:10 PM
He was a great man

By what measure? The fact that he got captured and tortured?

Because he was captured and tortured then when offered early release refused unless every man taken in before him was also released. He stood with his bothers and did not have too.

According to wikipedia

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His numerous military decorations and awards include the Silver Star, two Legions of Merits, Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Star Medals, two Purple Hearts, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals, and Prisoner of War Medal.[34]

He was a great man and a hero and I will honor him as such!   I disagreed with him politically, I did not vote for him.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Rai on August 27, 2018, 12:54:50 AM
He was a great man

By what measure? The fact that he got captured and tortured?

Because he was captured and tortured then when offered early release refused unless every man taken in before him was also released. He stood with his bothers and did not have too.

According to wikipedia

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His numerous military decorations and awards include the Silver Star, two Legions of Merits, Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Star Medals, two Purple Hearts, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals, and Prisoner of War Medal.[34]

He was a great man and a hero and I will honor him as such!   I disagreed with him politically, I did not vote for him.

I would hesitate calling a war criminal a hero.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on August 27, 2018, 12:56:22 AM
Wasn’t he probably at fault for a disaster on an Aircraft carrier that resulted in numerous deaths?


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Post by: Harry Black on August 27, 2018, 03:45:47 AM
I too have mixed feelings, and there's always the sentiment of "they just died, shut up/leave their family to their grieving". Which would be easier to stick to for someone who didn't have the power to influence the lives of millions of people, and still remains a symbol of the politics they were involved with.

There are moments you can patch together and use to present him as a great guy. On one hand McCain was a more honorable man than many of his supporters in the 2008 election. But on the other, how did it get to the point where he had a bunch of bigots supporting him?

When both conservatives and liberals say they didn't agree with his politics, that suggests he did some things the right way, and that he's somewhere in the middle of the political establishment. But when the US system is skewed massively in favor of corporations, the arms industry, rich individuals, and people who are fine with systematic human rights violations, being a moderate isn't all that impressive.
I think such moments can be an opportunity to give surviving public figures pause for thought about their legacy and values.
I cant see much other than fawning about McCain. But "good for a republican" isnt good enough.
I think its very fair to talk about his numerous failings and dishonest/cynical voting vs statement record.

He wasnt a good guy. Or if he was then our bar for that is too low.

He was a great man who became a poor politician.
He did one impressive thing.
I dont think that makes him.a great man.

I also think the very concept of great men is unhelpful and just helps to obscure bad behaviour and reduce accountability.
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Post by: Desert Fox on August 27, 2018, 07:55:18 AM
Wasn’t he probably at fault for a disaster on an Aircraft carrier that resulted in numerous deaths?

No, he was just incidental to that one. However, he did crash a trainer while hot dogging and snagged power lines in Spain as well flying too low. Isn't it wonderful when your daddy is an Admiral?
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Post by: John Albert on August 27, 2018, 10:51:40 AM
The only reason the Viet Cong wanted to release McCain first was to use the Admiral's son as a bargaining chip. I believe that all the POWs were equally heroic, and any one of them would have refused release on the same terms.

But how many of those other POWs went on to become senators and run for president? Besides John McCain, do you even know any of their names?

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Post by: gebobs on August 27, 2018, 11:14:51 AM
Nasa 'human computer' Katherine Johnson celebrates 100th birthday

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nasa-human-computer-katherine-johnson-100th-birthday-a8509031.html
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Post by: Mr. Beagle on August 27, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
McCain stepped into a pile of manure early in his congressional career as part of the "Keating Five," caught taking favors from a Savings and Loan kingpin as that entire industry collapsed in the mid-1980s. He did emerge from that as a strong voice in favor of campaign finance reform, but he got kneecapped by his own party on that.

They keep playing the video where he explained to a lady that Barack Obama was not an Arab, but really he messed that up as well. He said that, no Obama was not an Arab, rather was a "good family man," as if Arabs cannot be "good family men."

But overall, he did not deserve the lack of respect on his death that the White House is exhibiting.


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Post by: CarbShark on August 27, 2018, 04:02:44 PM
McCain stepped into a pile of manure early in his congressional career as part of the "Keating Five," caught taking favors from a Savings and Loan kingpin as that entire industry collapsed in the mid-1980s. He did emerge from that as a strong voice in favor of campaign finance reform, but he got kneecapped by his own party on that.

They keep playing the video where he explained to a lady that Barack Obama was not an Arab, but really he messed that up as well. He said that, no Obama was not an Arab, rather was a "good family man," as if Arabs cannot be "good family men."

But overall, he did not deserve the lack of respect on his death that the White House is exhibiting.

Except the Keaton 5 scandal wasn’t exactly early in his Congressional career. He was elected to the house in 1982.  The scandal began in 1987.

He should have known better.





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Post by: CarbShark on September 06, 2018, 03:25:01 PM


Burt Reynolds, the wise-cracking star of 'Smokey and the Bandit' and 'Deliverance,' dies at 82 (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-burt-reynolds-dies-at-82-story.html)

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For five years in a row — 1978 through 1982 — Reynolds was the No. 1 box-office star, a time in which he starred in movies such as “Hooper,” “Starting Over,” “The End,” “Sharky’s Machine” and “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.”

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on September 06, 2018, 03:36:52 PM
Dolores O'Riordans lead singer from the Cranberries dead at 46



  https://www.npr.org/2018/09/06/645198894/coroner-rules-cranberries-singer-dolores-oriordans-death-as-accidental  (https://www.npr.org/2018/09/06/645198894/coroner-rules-cranberries-singer-dolores-oriordans-death-as-accidental)
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Post by: Tassie Dave on September 06, 2018, 03:54:18 PM
Dolores O'Riordans lead singer from the Cranberries dead at 46



  https://www.npr.org/2018/09/06/645198894/coroner-rules-cranberries-singer-dolores-oriordans-death-as-accidental  (https://www.npr.org/2018/09/06/645198894/coroner-rules-cranberries-singer-dolores-oriordans-death-as-accidental)

That happened back in January. Still a sad event. I loved the Cranberries.
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Post by: Desert Fox on September 06, 2018, 04:49:08 PM
She was younger than I am
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Post by: PANTS! on September 06, 2018, 05:13:16 PM


Burt Reynolds, the wise-cracking star of 'Smokey and the Bandit' and 'Deliverance,' dies at 82 (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-burt-reynolds-dies-at-82-story.html)

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For five years in a row — 1978 through 1982 — Reynolds was the No. 1 box-office star, a time in which he starred in movies such as “Hooper,” “Starting Over,” “The End,” “Sharky’s Machine” and “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.”
82 is way too young. I know he was kind of cheesy but boy did he pull off that cheesiness. He knew how to revel in it and yet somehow make it work. He's reflective of a aesthetic that you really don't see anymore and that's probably for the best but when they was doing it he did it right.
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Post by: xenu on September 06, 2018, 07:51:53 PM
Dolores O'Riordans lead singer from the Cranberries dead at 46



  https://www.npr.org/2018/09/06/645198894/coroner-rules-cranberries-singer-dolores-oriordans-death-as-accidental  (https://www.npr.org/2018/09/06/645198894/coroner-rules-cranberries-singer-dolores-oriordans-death-as-accidental)

That happened back in January. Still a sad event. I loved the Cranberries.

Wow I completely missed that. Thanks, it was the determination of her death that came out today.
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Post by: The Latinist on September 06, 2018, 07:53:03 PM
82 years is “way too young”?
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Post by: HighPockets on September 06, 2018, 10:06:36 PM
82 years is “way too young”?

It is when you're 50 and staring down the throat of old age. If B.R. can pass away, any of us can, and I'm not ready to accept that. EVAR!
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Post by: seamas on September 07, 2018, 11:26:28 AM


Burt Reynolds, the wise-cracking star of 'Smokey and the Bandit' and 'Deliverance,' dies at 82 (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-burt-reynolds-dies-at-82-story.html)

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For five years in a row — 1978 through 1982 — Reynolds was the No. 1 box-office star, a time in which he starred in movies such as “Hooper,” “Starting Over,” “The End,” “Sharky’s Machine” and “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.”

Reynolds could have seriously competed with Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson were he to have chosen to do straight action movies.
But he had a far greater ability to project a care-free charm than those two, so his action/comedy niche was perfectly suited to him, and he basically helped make that genre so popular that even Clint tried his hand with it (in the Every Which Way But…movies).

They didn't have the word "tween" back then, but that was the age I was when I could bank on a Burt Reynolds movie to entertain me.
He also loved to have great stunts in his movies and had a strong admiration for stuntmen and car chase choreography.
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Post by: amysrevenge on September 07, 2018, 12:14:11 PM
I've heard that his private life was... problematic.
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Post by: fuzzyMarmot on September 08, 2018, 05:28:25 AM
Mac Miller, age only 26  :'(
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Post by: CarbShark on September 28, 2018, 07:16:34 PM
Marty Balin (Jefferson Airplane)
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Post by: CarbShark on October 15, 2018, 06:30:06 PM

Paul Allen, Microsoft co-founder, dies at 65 - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-fi-tn-paul-allen-obituary-20181015-story.html)

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Paul Allen, the taciturn computer programmer who founded the software behemoth Microsoft with Bill Gates when he was 22 and walked away eight years later with what would become one of the largest fortunes in the history of American capitalism, died Monday in Seattle. He was 65.
The cause was complications of non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, according to his company Vulcan Inc.
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Post by: The Latinist on October 15, 2018, 11:14:37 PM
Seems pretty unlucky to beat Hodgkin’s disease only to come down with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma decades later.
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Post by: CarbShark on October 16, 2018, 10:03:39 AM
He was lucky in other ways


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Post by: st3class on October 18, 2018, 04:02:05 AM

Paul Allen, Microsoft co-founder, dies at 65 - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-fi-tn-paul-allen-obituary-20181015-story.html)

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Paul Allen, the taciturn computer programmer who founded the software behemoth Microsoft with Bill Gates when he was 22 and walked away eight years later with what would become one of the largest fortunes in the history of American capitalism, died Monday in Seattle. He was 65.
The cause was complications of non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, according to his company Vulcan Inc.

There's been a lot of press lately about the owner of the Portland Trail Blazers dying. I also saw the co-founder of Microsoft died on the same day. It took me until today realize that they were the same person...

I am not a smart man.
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Post by: Ron Obvious on October 18, 2018, 07:30:53 AM

There's been a lot of press lately about the owner of the Portland Trail Blazers dying. I also saw the co-founder of Microsoft died on the same day. It took me until today realize that they were the same person...

I am not a smart man.

Amazingly, the owner of the Seattle Seahawks also died on the same day. How often does that happen?

RIP Paul Allen.
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Post by: CarbShark on October 18, 2018, 11:25:06 AM
The man behind SpaceshipOne, winner of the X-prize, also died on the same day.


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Post by: CarbShark on November 12, 2018, 02:24:13 PM


Comic-book legend Stan Lee, co-creator of Spider-Man and Marvel heroes, dies at 95 - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-stan-lee-11122018-story.html)

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Stan Lee, who helped create Spider-Man and other comic book superheroes that transformed the industry and raked in billions at movie box offices, has died. He was 95.
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Post by: PANTS! on November 12, 2018, 02:30:13 PM


Comic-book legend Stan Lee, co-creator of Spider-Man and Marvel heroes, dies at 95 - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-stan-lee-11122018-story.html)

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Stan Lee, who helped create Spider-Man and other comic book superheroes that transformed the industry and raked in billions at movie box offices, has died. He was 95.

He had a hell of a run, and lived his best life in his last years.
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Post by: Paul Blevins Jr. on November 12, 2018, 03:07:19 PM
Damn. Knew it was imminent and 95 is a nice long run (but is it ever long enough?) but this is still the rare celebrity death that hits me. Briefly "met" The Man at a few comic conventions over the decades and have an autograph first edition of his Origins of Marvel Comics. I was born July 1962. The first issue of Fantastic Four that started the Marvel Age of Comics came out just under a year earlier in August of '61. I literally grew up with Stan's writings and his creations/co-creations.  His writing was a major influence in the shaping of my moral compass. When I as younger and briefly fancied becoming a writer, either for comics, "real" books or both, I emulated his style to a great degree (along with Ray Bradbury, I was quite the hybrid). 

Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko the Trifecta of Titans who birthed The Marvel Universe are all gone now. The world is a little less wondrous today.

RIP Stan Lee. You will be remembered and your work cherished for generations.
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Post by: John Albert on November 12, 2018, 05:50:48 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/Dhe8qBE.jpg)

It’s Time to Cast a Black Stan Lee

Now that his part in the Marvel Cinematic Universe needs to be recast, we need to do the right thing and make sure a person of color takes over the role.
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/time-to-cast-black-stan-lee/?fbclid=IwAR2v-ej5VBneYArd209NlqKmYCE0OSADVg-LRj0WpHo1hbd7-5exqqXDqzs
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Post by: CarbShark on November 16, 2018, 04:23:57 PM
He was my favorite movie writer ever.


William Goldman, Oscar-winning screenwriter of ‘Butch Cassidy’ and ‘All the President's Men,’ dies at 87 - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-william-goldman-20181116-story.html)

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Oscar-winning screenwriter William Goldman, who penned the scripts for the seminal Robert Redford films “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid” and “All the President’s Men,” as well as the beloved comedy “The Princess Bride,” has died. He was 87.

A partial list:

 1990 Misery (screenplay)
 1987 The Princess Bride (book) / (screenplay)
 1986 Heat (novel) / (screenplay)
 1979 Mr. Horn (TV Movie)
 1978 Magic (based on his novel) / (screenplay)
 1977 A Bridge Too Far (screenplay)
 1976 Marathon Man (from: his novel) / (screenplay)
 1976 All the President's Men (screenplay)
 1975 The Great Waldo Pepper (screenplay)
 1975 The Stepford Wives (screenplay)
 1973 Papillon (contributing writer - uncredited)
 1972 The Hot Rock (screenplay)
 1969 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (written by)
 1968 No Way to Treat a Lady (based on the novel by)
 1966 Harper (screenplay)
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Post by: brilligtove on November 16, 2018, 05:22:44 PM
The book version of The Princess Bride is amazing.
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Post by: CarbShark on November 16, 2018, 06:00:57 PM
The book version of The Princess Bride is amazing.

His autobiography "Adventures in the Screen Trade" is one of the two best film books I've ever read.
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Post by: John Albert on November 20, 2018, 09:31:49 PM
Everybody who cultivated a big, fat, patriotic boner over John McCain's alleged war heroics ought to listen to the latest Dollop (https://secure-hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/b/7/1/b7163ac8dbf5a253/McCain_-.mp3?c_id=25926788).
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Post by: CarbShark on December 01, 2018, 12:24:53 AM
George HW Bush, at 94


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Post by: The Latinist on December 01, 2018, 09:15:32 AM
George H.W. Bush did something I highly respect when, in 1990, he agreed to a compromise that raised taxes despite his "read my lips" campaign pledge. It showed that he took fiscal responsibility seriously, and that he put the country's finances before his own political expedience—and it may well have cost him reelection. Whatever else one thinks of him, in that moment, at least, he was a statesman.
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Post by: John Albert on December 01, 2018, 12:27:57 PM
How I'd prefer to remember him:

(https://i.imgur.com/JGh2tcc.jpg)


But then I recall stuff like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/q9LshfF.jpg)


And this:

(https://i.imgur.com/4wq1oiS.jpg)
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/highway-death-in-pictures-1991/
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Post by: John Albert on December 01, 2018, 01:11:27 PM
Here's a more fitting memorial for GHWB:

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The Ignored Legacy of George H.W. Bush: War Crimes, Racism, and Obstruction of Justice


Mehdi Hasan | December 1 2018, 10:38 a.m.

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President George H.W. Bush addresses the nation from the Oval Office on Jan. 16, 1991, after U.S. forces began military
action against Iraq, code-named Operation Desert Storm. Photo: Charles Tasnadi/AP


THE TRIBUTES to former President George H.W. Bush, who died on Friday aged 94, have been pouring in from all sides of the political spectrum. He was a man “of the highest character,” said his eldest son and fellow former president, George W. Bush. “He loved America and served with character, class, and integrity,” tweeted former U.S. Attorney and #resistance icon Preet Bharara. According to another former president, Barack Obama, Bush’s life was “a testament to the notion that public service is a noble, joyous calling. And he did tremendous good along the journey.” Apple boss Tim Cook said: “We have lost a great American.”

In an age of Donald Trump, it isn’t difficult for his hagiographers to paint a picture of the late Bush Sr. as a great patriot and pragmatist; a president who governed with “class” and “integrity.” It is true that the former president refused to vote for Trump in 2016, calling him a “blowhard,” and that he eschewed the white-nationalist, alt-right, conspiratorial politics that has come to define the modern Republican Party. He helped end the Cold War without, as Obama said, “firing a shot.” He spent his life serving his country — from the military to Congress to the United Nations to the CIA to the White House. And, by all accounts, he was also a beloved grandfather and great-grandfather to his 17 grandkids and 8 great-grandkids.

Nevertheless, he was a public not a private figure; one of only 44 men to have ever served as president of the United States. We cannot, therefore, allow his actual record in office to be beautified in such a brazen way. “When a political leader dies, it is irresponsible in the extreme to demand that only praise be permitted but not criticisms,” as my colleague Glenn Greenwald has argued, because it leads to “false history and a propagandistic whitewashing of bad acts.” The inconvenient truth is that the presidency of George Herbert Walker Bush had far more in common with the recognizably belligerent, corrupt and right-wing Republican figures who came after him — his son George W. and the current orange-faced incumbent — than much of the political and media classes might have you believe.

Consider:

He ran a racist election campaign. The name of Willie Horton should forever be associated with Bush’s 1988 presidential bid. Horton, who was serving a life sentence for murder in Massachusetts — where Bush’s Democratic opponent, Michael Dukakis, was governor —  had fled a weekend furlough program and raped a Maryland woman. A notorious television ad called “Weekend Passes,“released by a political action committee with ties to the Bush campaign, made clear to viewers that Horton was black and his victim was white.

As Bush campaign director Lee Atwater bragged, “By the time we’re finished, they’re going to wonder whether Willie Horton is Dukakis’ running mate.” Bush himself was quick to dismiss accusations of racism as “absolutely ridiculous” yet it was clear at the time, even to right-wing Republicans operatives such as Roger Stone, now a close ally of Trump, that the ad had crossed a line. “You and George Bush will wear that to your grave,” Stone complained to Atwater. “It’s a racist ad… You’re going to regret it.”

Stone was right about Atwater, who on his deathbed apologized for using Horton against Dukakis. But Bush never did.

He made a dishonest case for war. Thirteen years before George W. Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction to justify his invasion and occupation of Iraq, his father made his own set of false claims to justify the aerial bombardment of that same country. The first Gulf War, as an investigation by journalist Joshua Keating concluded, “was sold on a mountain of war propaganda.”

For a start, Bush told the American public that Iraq had invaded Kuwait “without provocation or warning.” What he omitted to mention was that the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, had given an effective green light to Saddam Hussein, telling him in July 1990, a week before his invasion, “[W]e have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.”

Then there is the fabrication of intelligence. Bush deployed U.S. troops to the Gulf in August 1990 and claimed he was doing so in order “to assist the Saudi Arabian Government in the defense of its homeland.” As Scott Peterson wrote  in the Christian Science Monitor in 2002, “Citing top-secret satellite images, Pentagon officials estimated… that up to 250,000 Iraqi troops and 1,500 tanks stood on the border, threatening the key US oil supplier.”

Yet when reporter Jean Heller of the St. Petersburg Times acquired her own commercial satellite images of the Saudi border, she found no signs of Iraqi forces; only an empty desert. “It was a pretty serious fib,” Heller told Peterson, adding: “That [Iraqi buildup] was the whole justification for Bush sending troops in there, and it just didn’t exist.”


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President George H. W. Bush talks with Secretary of State James Baker III and Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney during a
meeting of the cabinet in the White House on Jan. 17, 1991 to discuss the Persian Gulf war. Photo: Ron Edmonds/AP


He committed war crimes. Under Bush Sr., the U.S. dropped a whopping 88,500 tons of bombs on Iraq and Iraqi-occupied Kuwait, many of which resulted in horrific civilian casualties. In February 1991, for example, a U.S. airstrike on an air-raid shelter in the Amiriyah neighborhood of Baghdad killed at least 408 Iraqi civilians. According to Human Rights Watch, the Pentagon knew the Amiriyah facility had been used as a civil-defense shelter during the Iran-Iraq war and yet had attacked without warning. It was, concluded HRW, “a serious violation of the laws of war.”

U.S. bombs also destroyed essential Iraqi civilian infrastructure — from electricity-generating and water-treatment facilities to food-processing plants and flour mills. This was no accident. As Barton Gellman of the Washington Post reported in June 1991: “Some targets, especially late in the war, were bombed primarily to create postwar leverage over Iraq, not to influence the course of the conflict itself. Planners now say their intent was to destroy or damage valuable facilities that Baghdad could not repair without foreign assistance…Because of these goals, damage to civilian structures and interests, invariably described by briefers during the war as ‘collateral’ and unintended, was sometimes neither.”

Got that? The Bush administration deliberately targeted civilian infrastructure for “leverage” over Saddam Hussein. How is this not terrorism? As a Harvard public health team concluded in June 1991, less than four months after the end of the war, the destruction of Iraqi infrastructure had resulted in acute malnutrition and “epidemic” levels of cholera and typhoid.

By January 1992, Beth Osborne Daponte, a demographer with the U.S. Census Bureau, was estimating that Bush’s Gulf War had caused the deaths of 158,000 Iraqis, including 13,000 immediate civilian deaths and 70,000 deaths from the damage done to electricity and sewage treatment plants. Daponte’s numbers contradicted the Bush administration’s and she was threatened by her superiors with dismissal for releasing “false information.” (Sound familiar?)

He refused to cooperate with a special counsel. The Iran-Contra affair, in which the United States traded missiles for Americans hostages in Iran, and used the proceeds of those arms sales to fund Contra rebels in Nicaragua, did much to undermine the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Yet his vice president’s involvement in that controversial affair has garnered far less attention. “The criminal investigation of Bush was regrettably incomplete,” wrote Special Counsel Lawrence Walsh, a former deputy attorney general in the Eisenhower administration, in his final report on the Iran-Contra affair in August 1993.

Why? Because Bush, who was “fully aware of the Iran arms sale,” according to the special counsel, failed to hand over a diary “containing contemporaneous notes relevant to Iran/contra” and refused to be interviewed in the later stages of the investigation. In the final days of his presidency, Bush even issued pardons to six defendants in the Iran-Contra affair, including former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger — on the eve of Weinberger’s trial for perjury and obstruction of justice. “The Weinberger pardon,” Walsh pointedly noted, “marked the first time a president ever pardoned someone in whose trial he might have been called as a witness, because the president was knowledgeable of factual events underlying the case.” An angry Walsh accused Bush of “misconduct” and helping to complete “the Iran-contra cover-up”.

Sounds like a Trumpian case of obstruction of justice, doesn’t it?

He escalated the racist war on drugs. In September 1989, in a televised address to the nation from the Oval Office, Bush held up a bag of crack cocaine which he said had been “seized a few days ago in a park across the street from the White House . . . . It could easily have been heroin or PCP.”

Yet a Washington Post investigation later that month revealed that federal agents had “lured” the drug dealer to Lafayette Park so they could make an “undercover crack buy in a park better known for its location across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House than for illegal drug activity” (the dealer didn’t know where the White House was and even asked the agents for directions). Bush cynically used this prop — the bag of crack — to call for a $1.5 billion increase in spending on the drug war, declaiming: “We need more prisons, more jails, more courts, more prosecutors.”

The result? “Millions of Americans were incarcerated, hundreds of billions of dollars wasted, and hundreds of thousands of human beings allowed to die of AIDS – all in the name of a ‘war on drugs’ that did nothing to reduce drug abuse,” pointed out Ethan Nadelmann, founder of the Drug Policy Alliance, in 2014. Bush, he argued, “put ideology and politics above science and health.” Today, even leading Republicans, such as Chris Christie and Rand Paul, agree that the war on drugs, ramped up by Bush during his four years in the White House, has been a dismal and racist failure.

He groped women. Since the start of the #MeToo movement, in late 2017, at least 8 different women have come forward with claims that the former president groped them; in most cases, while they were posing for photos with him. One of them, Roslyn Corrigan, told Time magazine that Bush touched her inappropriately in 2003, when she was just 16. “I was a child,” she said. The former president was 79. Bush’s spokesman offered this defense of his boss in October 2017: “At age 93, President Bush has been confined to a wheelchair for roughly five years, so his arm falls on the lower waist of people with whom he takes pictures.” Yet, as Time noted, “Bush was standing upright in 2003 when he met Corrigan.”

Facts matter. The 41st president of the United States was not the last Republican moderate or a throwback to an imagined age of conservative decency and civility; he engaged in race baiting, obstruction of justice, and war crimes. He had much more in common with the two Republican presidents who came after him than his current crop of fans would like us to believe.
https://theintercept.com/2018/12/01/the-ignored-legacy-of-george-h-w-bush-war-crimes-racism-and-obstruction-of-justice/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on December 02, 2018, 01:46:03 AM
So another horrible person you can choose to admire and see as a decent person by only pulling from certain events, or by comparing them to someone who has managed to be worse.

There's respect for the dead, and there's people who have been far too respected for much of their life. If their crimes don't catch up to them before they die, they won. But that doesn't mean stop talking about them.
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Post by: Harry Black on December 02, 2018, 04:46:14 AM
On the plus side, the likes of the Bushes and the Clintons are not all that long for this world, while the more progressive voices seem to have a lot left, their contemporary counter parts being little more than internet jokes.

If we can survive the mess left by these assholes then things may start looking up.
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I also think its downright vital that every public figure knows with certainty that when they die we will dig up and criticise every damn part of their legacy and that should they want a fond remembrance, they better conduct themselves well.
Its also a great reminder to us as voters of the things we supported and the things we ignored so we can really look at ourselves and ask what we are going to support in the future and how much of our souls we are willing to trade off for issues that fit our political preferences.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on December 02, 2018, 08:12:00 AM
Bush senior was also the forefront of the shift of Republican attitudes on the environment and the EPA.  I believe the famous quote was we are never going to win anybody over by supporting the EPA and defending the environment, so ways May was as well oppose it. It was a completely cynical ploy to garner votes.  And the whole world is worse off for it.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on December 02, 2018, 09:01:27 AM
George H. W. Bush was a mouthpiece of Rush Limbaugh in the closing days of his doomed reelection campaign.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on December 02, 2018, 10:02:07 AM
On the plus side, the likes of the Bushes and the Clintons are not all that long for this world, while the more progressive voices seem to have a lot left, their contemporary counter parts being little more than internet jokes.

But even their worst jokes have 40% locked in to vote for them.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Harry Black on December 02, 2018, 10:34:27 AM
On the plus side, the likes of the Bushes and the Clintons are not all that long for this world, while the more progressive voices seem to have a lot left, their contemporary counter parts being little more than internet jokes.

But even their worst jokes have 40% locked in to vote for them.
The jokes Im referring to are the contemporaries of Ocasio Cortez et al. Those folks are mostly just online pundits who fall apart outside of their little enclaves.
I think what is currently described as conservative in America is a doomed breed. Im sure there will be other shitheads of a different flavour along after though.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 02, 2018, 01:46:24 PM
Im sure there will be other shitheads of a different flavour along after though.

We're already getting a taste of that now. It's an especially bitter piquancy of self-styled neo-Nazis and other loony conspiracists.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Harry Black on December 02, 2018, 02:29:45 PM
Im sure there will be other shitheads of a different flavour along after though.

We're already getting a taste of that now. It's an especially bitter piquancy of self-styled neo-Nazis and other loony conspiracists.
The likes of Joey Gibson are something to be concerned about for sure.
I just cant see any of the idiots in their 30s-40s who are making such noises as being successful political candidates.
Then again, we all said that about Trump.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 02, 2018, 02:59:12 PM
Yeah, that Christian Identity bullshit is a big component of the current GOP agenda. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Joey Gibson were to throw in his hat.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 03, 2018, 05:24:11 PM
One thing George H.W. Bush enacted that was an unequivocal good, was the advocacy and enaction of the Americans with Disabilities Act (https://www.ada.gov/cguide.htm#anchor62335) (ADA). For that he should be praised.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on December 03, 2018, 05:50:17 PM
One thing George H.W. Bush enacted that was an unequivocal good, was the advocacy and enaction of the Americans with Disabilities Act (https://www.ada.gov/cguide.htm#anchor62335) (ADA). For that he should be praised.

Yeah, it was a good thing he didn't veto legislation drafted by Democratic leaders and passed by veto-proof majorities. But, by all means, give the Republican credit.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 04, 2018, 02:50:05 PM
One thing George H.W. Bush enacted that was an unequivocal good, was the advocacy and enaction of the Americans with Disabilities Act (https://www.ada.gov/cguide.htm#anchor62335) (ADA). For that he should be praised.

Yeah, it was a good thing he didn't veto legislation drafted by Democratic leaders and passed by veto-proof majorities. But, by all means, give the Republican credit.

Are you sure you're talking about the ADA? Because Bush did not veto the ADA.

Nixon had vetoed two previous acts intended to expand rights for the disabled, but Bush encouraged the development of the ADA and eventually passed the law as soon as Congress agreed on it.

http://adaresults.com/About-the-ADA.aspx

Incidentally, Bob Dole was another Republican who enthusiastically championed the ADA.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on December 04, 2018, 03:41:10 PM
One thing George H.W. Bush enacted that was an unequivocal good, was the advocacy and enaction of the Americans with Disabilities Act (https://www.ada.gov/cguide.htm#anchor62335) (ADA). For that he should be praised.

Yeah, it was a good thing he didn't veto legislation drafted by Democratic leaders and passed by veto-proof majorities. But, by all means, give the Republican credit.

Are you sure you're talking about the ADA? Because Bush did not veto the ADA.

Nixon had vetoed two previous acts intended to expand rights for the disabled, but Bush encouraged the development of the ADA and eventually passed the law as soon as Congress agreed on it.

http://adaresults.com/About-the-ADA.aspx

Incidentally, Bob Dole was another Republican who enthusiastically championed the ADA.

I said it was a good thing he didn't veto it. He didn't, and if he had, it would have been overturned.

But for that he gets all the credit?

Of course Dole was disabled, and was well aware of the issues that wounded veterans and other disable people faced. (Note he's 95 now)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 05, 2018, 03:51:36 PM
I said it was a good thing he didn't veto it. He didn't, and if he had, it would have been overturned.

But for that he gets all the credit?

George Herbert Walker Bush deserves a good deal of the credit for the ADA because he personally invested time and effort right from the start, and his administration actively helped in drafting the bill and overcoming the blockages to its passage. With the encouragement and assistence of the White House, Congress ended up overcoming some serious opposition including that by bigoted Republicans who sought to exclude persons with AIDS from sharing in the ADA benefits. I the end, they succeeded up passing a good piece of legislation which benefits a large segment of the population that had previously been marginalized.

I'm not bringing this up in order to praise George H.W. Bush, by the way. I'm bringing it up in the interest of fairness because it's true. I don't want to be the kind of asshole who refuses to give credit where it's due, just for partisan political reasons.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Harry Black on December 05, 2018, 05:23:04 PM
Yeah. There are certainly a couple of good things you could say about him.
I mean that genuinely.

They are definitely outweighed by the harm he did to the world.
I also mean that genuinely.

I wasnt politically savvy during the gulf war so I cant really judge anyone who voted for him and was a very naive kid when his son stole an election and lied his way into one of the modern worlds greatest atrocities.
But were all these facts that obscure back then?? No google so I want to be generous, but jesus...his comments when asked for an apology for the shooting down of a civvy aircraft....did people know about that?

Not a big fan of democrats either. Clinton had his own warcrimes and is very probably a rapist but...demand more?
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 05, 2018, 05:36:58 PM
All I'm trying to do is be evenhanded. If anybody has an inkling that I might be trying to lionize any president by the name of George Bush, I invite them to look at the Intercept article I posted on the previous page.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: wastrel on December 06, 2018, 04:18:08 PM
Buzzcocks singer Pete Shelley dies at 63 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46476369)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 06, 2018, 04:19:27 PM
Buzzcocks singer Pete Shelley dies at 63 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46476369)

This one's a real kick in the nuts.  :'(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on December 06, 2018, 11:54:46 PM
Buzzcocks singer Pete Shelley dies at 63 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46476369)

This one's a real kick in the nuts.  :'(

Aww fuck.

https://youtu.be/2HwmO_GZfzI
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on December 07, 2018, 11:04:23 AM
Was he also something of a skeptic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1G0jl0Vc64
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on December 18, 2018, 02:14:30 PM


Penny Marshall, who played feisty Laverne in 'Laverne & Shirley' before directing movies, dies at 75 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-penny-marshall-dies-at-75-story.html)

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Penny Marshall, who costarred as a Milwaukee brewery worker in the top-rated 1970s and ’80s sitcom “Laverne & Shirley” before becoming a director of hit movies such as “Big” and “A League of Their Own,” has died. She was 75.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on December 18, 2018, 02:56:03 PM
Kind of sad. She lived a relatively respectable lifespan however.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on February 03, 2019, 11:59:21 AM
Jeremy Hardy: Comedian and Radio 4 panel star dies aged 57 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47056671)

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Comedian Jeremy Hardy, a regular on BBC Radio 4 panel shows like The News Quiz and I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue, has died of cancer aged 57.

His death was confirmed on Friday by his publicist, Amanda Emery.

Hardy made his name on the comedy circuit in the 1980s, winning the prestigious Perrier Award in 1988 and best live act at the ITV Comedy Awards in 1991.

On TV he appeared on shows like QI and sketch programme Now - Something Else.

Comics and politicians pay tribute (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47089436)

Not being from the UK, I'm familiar with him from the many panel shows he appeared on. Including the radio show The Unbelievable Truth, which is a sort of inverse "science or fiction" game.

Jeremy Hardy – true to his politics and his comedy (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/03/jeremy-hardy-true-to-himself-and-his-comedy)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 03, 2019, 12:06:39 PM
I wasnt politically savvy during the gulf war so I cant really judge anyone who voted for him

At the risk of going OT, is the first Gulf War really considered a "bad" war, in the way that the Iraq War started in 2003 clearly was? Iraq simply annexed another country, and the UN authorized a military intervention to kick the occupiers out. Unless I am missing something, I can't really see how this was wrong. Unlike certain other wars, it also had a very clear, achievable objective, and did not result in a years-long quagmire.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Harry Black on February 03, 2019, 12:43:22 PM
I wasnt politically savvy during the gulf war so I cant really judge anyone who voted for him

At the risk of going OT, is the first Gulf War really considered a "bad" war, in the way that the Iraq War started in 2003 clearly was? Iraq simply annexed another country, and the UN authorized a military intervention to kick the occupiers out. Unless I am missing something, I can't really see how this was wrong. Unlike certain other wars, it also had a very clear, achievable objective, and did not result in a years-long quagmire.
Its not considered a bad war but it should be.
To be very clear- Saddam was a fucking terrible mass murdering scumbag. But he was put there by the US and was not removed during that war.
The invasion of Kuwait happened because Saddam misread signals from US diplomats and then invaded. But the war was justified by selling lies about dead babies to the US public, lies which Bush Sr repeated even after they were exposed as such.
The US did not give a shit about the well being of Kuwait or the Kurds and while many dont think motive matters, it DEFINITELY matters because it shapes how one goes about something and that has knock on effects down the line.

Many people died in that war, just not many US or UK soldiers so no one really cared, but it was all a result of US interference in the region.

I sometimes wonder how Americans would feel if China suddenly pulled as far ahead in military might as they are now and decided that due to the awful human rights violations the US inflicts on its citizens, they were going to come in, remove the president, and force a new election.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on February 03, 2019, 12:44:44 PM
It was still a two-faced propaganda war, and the US could've done more to prevent it in the first place.

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/23/world/confrontation-in-the-gulf-us-gave-iraq-little-reason-not-to-mount-kuwait-assault.html

But the war was justified by selling lies about dead babies to the US public, lies which Bush Sr repeated even after they were exposed as such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 03, 2019, 01:02:18 PM
I wasnt politically savvy during the gulf war so I cant really judge anyone who voted for him

At the risk of going OT, is the first Gulf War really considered a "bad" war, in the way that the Iraq War started in 2003 clearly was? Iraq simply annexed another country, and the UN authorized a military intervention to kick the occupiers out. Unless I am missing something, I can't really see how this was wrong. Unlike certain other wars, it also had a very clear, achievable objective, and did not result in a years-long quagmire.
Its not considered a bad war but it should be.
To be very clear- Saddam was a fucking terrible mass murdering scumbag. But he was put there by the US and was not removed during that war.
The invasion of Kuwait happened because Saddam misread signals from US diplomats and then invaded. But the war was justified by selling lies about dead babies to the US public, lies which Bush Sr repeated even after they were exposed as such.
The US did not give a shit about the well being of Kuwait or the Kurds and while many dont think motive matters, it DEFINITELY matters because it shapes how one goes about something and that has knock on effects down the line.

Many people died in that war, just not many US or UK soldiers so no one really cared, but it was all a result of US interference in the region.

I sometimes wonder how Americans would feel if China suddenly pulled as far ahead in military might as they are now and decided that due to the awful human rights violations the US inflicts on its citizens, they were going to come in, remove the president, and force a new election.

I assume it was dirty play around, but still, I find it hard to object to driving out occupiers of a military army simply conquering another country. I don't accept the reasoning that because the US did bad things in the past, therefore Saddam Hussein should be allowed to annex Quwait. And from what I can find, it was a multi-national, UN-approved intervention, though sure with the US as the leading force.

Not that it's very relevant, but from what I can find, Saddam Hussein's path to power was a coup through his own party that controlled Iraq, and Iraq already before Saddam Hussein seized power was politically oriented to the Warzaw Pact countries.

China doesn't care about human rights, or anything that happens in other countries (except that they must not recognize Taiwan as either a country or as the rightful ruler of China), and if anything, has even worse human rights record than the US.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on February 15, 2019, 06:25:24 AM
Noted nutball cult leader and perennial PotUS candidate Lyndon LaRouche dies at 96 (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/obituaries/lyndon-larouche-dead.html).
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on February 15, 2019, 10:06:38 AM
Noted nutball cult leader and perennial PotUS candidate Lyndon LaRouche dies at 96 (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/obituaries/lyndon-larouche-dead.html).

I remember his election-eve campaign infomercials from the 80's.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on February 21, 2019, 02:40:01 PM
Peter Tork (The Monkees)

 :(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 04, 2019, 01:30:19 PM


Luke Perry, of 'Beverly Hills, 90210' and 'Riverdale' fame, dies at 52 after stroke - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-luke-perry-20190304-story.html)

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Luke Perry, the actor best known as bad-boy heartthrob Dylan McKay from the 1990s TV drama “Beverly Hills, 90210,” has died. He was 52.

 :(

I met him once before he was famous.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: amysrevenge on March 04, 2019, 06:35:29 PM
Oh no Sideshow Luke Perry.

Also.  Canonically the 90210 kids were the same age as me (I was in the same grade at school as they were while the show was airing), but Sideshow Luke Perry was 9 years my senior.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Desert Fox on March 04, 2019, 06:45:54 PM
well, he was only two years older than I am. Makes you realize how short life is.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on March 04, 2019, 08:49:55 PM
I'm a bit surprised that Keith Flint hasn't been already mentioned here. Most reports I'm seeing take the form of "90s kids sad as Luke Perry and Keith Flint die on the same day".

Prodigy at the time was fundamentally different from any other music I had heard, so of course I hated it. It was only many years after that I began to get an appreciation for what they were actually doing.

I'm going to go home tonight and put on Firestarter as loud as possible. I won't be the only one.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 04, 2019, 09:16:04 PM
I'm a bit surprised that Keith Flint hasn't been already mentioned here. Most reports I'm seeing take the form of "90s kids sad as Luke Perry and Keith Flint die on the same day".

Prodigy at the time was fundamentally different from any other music I had heard, so of course I hated it. It was only many years after that I began to get an appreciation for what they were actually doing.

I'm going to go home tonight and put on Firestarter as loud as possible. I won't be the only one.

Keith Flint has been mentioned now. You mentioned him.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on March 04, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
I'm a bit surprised that Keith Flint hasn't been already mentioned here. Most reports I'm seeing take the form of "90s kids sad as Luke Perry and Keith Flint die on the same day".

Prodigy at the time was fundamentally different from any other music I had heard, so of course I hated it. It was only many years after that I began to get an appreciation for what they were actually doing.

I'm going to go home tonight and put on Firestarter as loud as possible. I won't be the only one.

Keith Flint has been mentioned now. You mentioned him.

Was Prodigy not as popular in the US?
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 04, 2019, 10:10:12 PM
Beats me, not my generation.

But, my point was that you are welcome to and encouraged to post here too.

This may sound morbid, but some of the best stories in newspapers are the obituaries.


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on March 04, 2019, 10:13:24 PM
Well, if it's obits you want, here's one.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-05/keith-flint-brought-the-ethos-of-punk-to-dance-culture/10871206
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 04, 2019, 10:40:22 PM
That was interesting, thanks


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on March 04, 2019, 11:40:32 PM
Was Prodigy not as popular in the US?

I had never heard of The Prodigy and, having checkout out their most popular songs on Apple Music, I am fairly certain that I've never heard any of their music.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 06, 2019, 05:51:56 PM

Fuck cancer.



‘Jeopardy!’ host Alex Trebek says he has Stage 4 pancreatic cancer and vows to fight it - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-et-st-alex-trebek-pancreatic-cancer-20190306-story.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cInGyxCY9k


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Longtime “Jeopardy!” host Alex Trebek has been diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer.
The TV personality announced the news Wednesday, addressing fans in a brief video posted on the game show’s YouTube channel.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on March 07, 2019, 09:49:34 AM
I'm a bit surprised that Keith Flint hasn't been already mentioned here. Most reports I'm seeing take the form of "90s kids sad as Luke Perry and Keith Flint die on the same day".

Prodigy at the time was fundamentally different from any other music I had heard, so of course I hated it. It was only many years after that I began to get an appreciation for what they were actually doing.

I'm going to go home tonight and put on Firestarter as loud as possible. I won't be the only one.

Keith Flint has been mentioned now. You mentioned him.

Was Prodigy not as popular in the US?

Very popular but it seems not as many people on this forum.

I honestly prefer them when Keith was just a dancer and not a singer.  I loved Keiths stuff but early Prod was so much better.  "Charley", "Out of Space" "Voodoo people"

Keith was an icon that will be missed.

Today I turned a year older than he made it, It fucks with my head, Fuck depression!
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Billzbub on March 07, 2019, 11:55:52 AM
I know them because of their song Smack My Bitch Up.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on March 07, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
I know them because of their song Smack My Bitch Up.

Oh - those guys.  Fuck them.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on March 07, 2019, 12:31:10 PM
I know them because of their song Smack My Bitch Up.

Its my guess you have heard more of their music but didn't know it, Same with latinist

for example

Hackers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGX3H_ZZKOA

Kick Ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqYHkr92-wI

Spawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0l24AoUjLo

The Matrix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0mgFdkCvpw

If you went to a dance club in the early 90s you most likely heard this (You can see Keith's earlier persona in this video doing the Melbourne shuffle)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY87o9IZXWg&list=RDwmin5WkOuPw&index=8

"The prodigy" is really just Liam Howlett who writes and produces the tracks. Maxum is the MC, the others were just dancers until they started adding keiths punk like singing.

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: wastrel on March 07, 2019, 12:50:08 PM
Firestarter was huge as well
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on March 07, 2019, 01:02:02 PM
Firestarter was huge as well

That was Keiths breakout singing hit. That video blew peoples minds.  There is a social media push to get that song to chart again.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on March 07, 2019, 07:18:40 PM
I know them because of their song Smack My Bitch Up.

From the obit I linked earlier:

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Their song Smack My Bitch Up was heavily criticised, and some chain stores pulled The Fat Of The Land album off their shelves in response.

When the Beastie Boys told them to drop it from their Reading Festival setlist in 1998, The Prodigy played it anyway, with Flint saying "I do what the f*** I want".

"There's a lot of confusion over the title obviously, but we don't really care," Howlett told triple j in 1997.

"We know what the song is about and the song gives us energy on stage ... People have got to be pretty silly to think that we're writing records about smacking women up. It's like Firestarter — the record was not about starting fires."

The song is a divisive. Its title is offensive, and that goes against another pillar of the punk ethos: inclusivity, and acceptance of all.

But there was also a sense in Flint's defence of the song that they would not shy away from being offensive, which is a necessary characteristic of an artist trying to break new ground.

Everyone from The Rolling Stones to Kendrick Lamar has provoked and challenged — and offended — in their own way.

As Flint said in 2015, in the era of streaming algorithms that can reward homogeneity and songs tailored for mass-market playlists, music was becoming less "dangerous".

"People are getting force-fed commercial, generic records that are just safe, safe, safe," he said — and that's the opposite of punk.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on March 08, 2019, 04:24:07 PM
Jan-Michael Vincent

Star of "Airwolf" dead at 73
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on March 08, 2019, 07:28:41 PM
Jan-Michael Vincent

Star of "Airwolf" dead at 73

Holy shit! I remember him he was big on the jaw clenching when he acted.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Friendly Angel on March 12, 2019, 01:03:14 PM
Hal Blaine   :rimshot:
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on March 16, 2019, 10:08:34 AM
Hal Blaine   :rimshot:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-drummer-hal-blaine-provided-the-beat-for-american-music/amp

Member of the Wrecking Crew, and session musician for so many hits.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on March 17, 2019, 07:03:35 PM
I know them because of their song Smack My Bitch Up.

Oh - those guys.  Fuck them.

In response to the "controversy" about that song, Keith Flint publicly announced that it really had nothing whatsoever all to do with domestic violence. If you read the lyrics it becomes obvious that the title is just a tasteless joke rhyme of the kind that rock musicians often make while messing around in studio.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on March 17, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
Dick Dale dead 81. King of the California  surf music
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on March 17, 2019, 07:10:17 PM
Dick Dale dead 81. King of the California  surf music

Just about to post this.

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/dick-dale-king-of-the-surf-guitar-dead-at-81

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIU0RMV_II8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1gskj1VQR0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_hnE0I_LoQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6M6kd8cmpI
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on March 17, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
Its my guess you have heard more of their music but didn't know it, Same with latinist

I do not think that use in a movie soundtrack, where nobody knows either the name of the song or the artist really can constitute popularity. As I said, I never heard of the artist and certainly never sought out or knowingly heard any of his music.

To be fair, I have seen only one of those films, and I never frequented dance clubs.  In the early 90’s I listened mainly to classic rock and grunge. Certainly none of the radio stations I listened to (or any that I’m aware of having the ability to receive) played any music like that of The Prodigy.  Clearly we traveled in much different circles, and I ask you, rather than continuing to insist that I’m mistaken, to consider that perhaps your own experiences are not so universal as you assume.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on March 17, 2019, 11:53:28 PM
I do not think that use in a movie soundtrack, where nobody knows either the name of the song or the artist really can constitute popularity. As I said, I never heard of the artist and certainly never sought out or knowingly heard any of his music.

The Prodigy were indeed a very popular band in the mid-late '90s to early '00s, whether you personally listened to them or not.

They had two #1 hits in the UK, "Firestarter" and "Breathe."

"Breathe" also charted #1 in Europe, #2 in Australia, #18 on the Billboard (US) rock chart and #14 on the Billboard dance music chart. "Firestarter" also charted #2 in Europe, #30 on the Billboard "Hot 100," #24 on the Billboard alternative chart, and #13 on the Billboard dance chart.
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Post by: Captain Video on March 18, 2019, 09:04:16 PM
Its my guess you have heard more of their music but didn't know it, Same with latinist

I do not think that use in a movie soundtrack, where nobody knows either the name of the song or the artist really can constitute popularity. As I said, I never heard of the artist and certainly never sought out or knowingly heard any of his music.

To be fair, I have seen only one of those films, and I never frequented dance clubs.  In the early 90’s I listened mainly to classic rock and grunge. Certainly none of the radio stations I listened to (or any that I’m aware of having the ability to receive) played any music like that of The Prodigy.  Clearly we traveled in much different circles, and I ask you, rather than continuing to insist that I’m mistaken, to consider that perhaps your own experiences are not so universal as you assume.

Where did I insist that you were mistaken?  All I said was that Billz and probably you too have heard more of their music than you probably know. There is nothing wrong with that. Sorry if I gave you the impression I was judging or something.

I do not think that use in a movie soundtrack, where nobody knows either the name of the song or the artist really can constitute popularity. As I said, I never heard of the artist and certainly never sought out or knowingly heard any of his music.

The Prodigy were indeed a very popular band in the mid-late '90s to early '00s, whether you personally listened to them or not.

They had two #1 hits in the UK, "Firestarter" and "Breathe."

"Breathe" also charted #1 in Europe, #2 in Australia, #18 on the Billboard (US) rock chart and #14 on the Billboard dance music chart. "Firestarter" also charted #2 in Europe, #30 on the Billboard "Hot 100," #24 on the Billboard alternative chart, and #13 on the Billboard dance chart.

They were popular in the club scene long before the pop hits above which were a change in sound for them.  Some of the earlier hits charted in the top dance category but not the top 100 pop. They are early pioneers of big beat/breakbeat music.

Edit: actually I'm wrong as far as the UK goes. "out of space" charted at #5 and "Everybody in the Place" came in at #2 on the UK singles charts. The whole "experience" album came in at #12.  Other songs from that album probably made the top 10 in the UK now that I see some of this data.   Tons of big dance hits in the US but they never charted in the pop singles till firestarter. 

 I used to have the "out of space" 12" I miss my Vinyl  :(
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Post by: John Albert on March 19, 2019, 01:05:21 PM
I wasn't big on the rave or dance club scene, so I never got to be a huge fan of The Prodigy. But I do recognize some of their bigger hits and I think their music is about as good as that hardcore techno style gets.

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Post by: Captain Video on March 19, 2019, 02:02:31 PM
I wasn't big on the rave or dance club scene, so I never got to be a huge fan of The Prodigy. But I do recognize some of their bigger hits and I think their music is about as good as that hardcore techno bigbeat or breakbeat style gets.

Fixed that for you, its a big pet peeve of mine (and many other DJs)  ;)

Its understandable, Somehow "Techno" became the Jello of electronic dance music even though its almost never techno. EDM works as the catch all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres



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Post by: John Albert on March 20, 2019, 02:30:05 PM
I wasn't big on the rave or dance club scene, so I never got to be a huge fan of The Prodigy. But I do recognize some of their bigger hits and I think their music is about as good as that hardcore techno bigbeat or breakbeat style gets.

Fixed that for you, its a big pet peeve of mine (and many other DJs)  ;)

OK, whatever. Geez louise, EDM is even worse than heavy metal, with the nitpicking over subgenres.

Suffice to say, The Prodigy are famous enough to be recognized even by those of us who don't properly know what genre of music they play.
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Post by: arthwollipot on March 20, 2019, 09:04:42 PM
I try to avoid pigeonholing music into genres for exactly this reason.
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Post by: Captain Video on March 20, 2019, 09:39:32 PM
Yea I get that but in this case its like calling ALL rock "metal" which it is not.

I never could figure out how it happened, people just started calling everything electronic "techno" It was never promoted that way.

Jello or Coke used to describe all gelatin and soda makes sense because those are the top brands. Techno was fun and people still make it but it was never the top brand even at its height.  I suppose the word techno sounds more "electronic" than disco, house, trance, or breakbeat.  Just call all of it dance music if you want to generalize.

Its just one of my personal things so don't mind me, I don't give a fuck when people criticize my spelling which I know drives some people crazy so I would not expect anyone to give a fuck when I say its not techno LOL If you come up in my both and ask me to stop playing so much techno you will probably get an earful and not get your request unless you have lots of cash. "there are 200 people on that dance floor and you are the one up hear bitching that "nobody wants to hear Techno" Its not even techno...Fuck you Nelly! Get outta my booth" >:D

So far off topic now but we keep loosing great musicians, its hard not to talk about what they did, how they did it, and where we played it.

Dick Dale had tremendous impact.

Hal Blaine probably had more influence than any of them being on the wrecking crew. His breaks are still used over and over in EDM and Hip Hop.
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Post by: arthwollipot on March 21, 2019, 12:33:39 AM
Criticising the DJ for their choice of music is the bigger sin there.
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Post by: fuzzyMarmot on April 01, 2019, 01:36:19 AM
Nipsey Hussle (August 15, 1985 – March 31, 2019)
 :'(
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Post by: CarbShark on April 29, 2019, 04:37:38 PM

John Singleton dies; 'Boyz N the Hood' director was 51 - LA Times]

 (https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-john-singleton-director-boyz-hood-dead-20190429-story.html)
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John Singleton, the first African American filmmaker to be nominated for an Oscar for directing the powerful 1991 drama "Boyz N the Hood" died Monday after being removed from life-support following a massive stroke. He was 51.

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Post by: Desert Fox on May 02, 2019, 07:13:38 PM
Peter Mayhew, original Chewbacca actor died

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48142765
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Post by: The Latinist on May 02, 2019, 07:49:06 PM
 :(
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Post by: CarbShark on May 13, 2019, 10:04:05 AM


Doris Day dies; legendary actress and singer was 97 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-doris-day-dead-20190513-story.html)



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Doris Day, a leading box office star of the mid-20th century who achieved indelible fame in big-screen bedroom farces and put a sunny face on the working woman in postwar America, has died. She was 97.
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Post by: CarbShark on May 13, 2019, 10:04:44 AM


Actress Peggy Lipton, star of ‘The Mod Squad’ and ‘Twin Peaks,’ dies at 72 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-me-peggy-lipton-dead-20190511-story.html)


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Actress and former model Peggy Lipton, who rose to stardom in the late 1960s on the counterculture police series “The Mod Squad” and later starred on TV’s “Twin Peaks,” has died. She was 72.
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Post by: CarbShark on May 14, 2019, 01:09:13 PM

Tim Conway dies; comedian’s comedian and ‘Carol Burnett Show’ star was 85 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-me-obits-tim-conway-dead-20190514-story.html)
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Tim Conway, the comedian’s comedian best known for his work on “The Carol Burnett Show,” died Tuesday morning in Los Angeles, his rep, Howard Bragman, confirmed to The Times. He was 85.

Conway died in a long-term care facility after suffering complications of hydrocephalus, Bragman said.

The actor claimed he was born funny: “I am not really qualified to do anything but screw up,” he told The Times in 2013.
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Post by: John Albert on May 15, 2019, 04:34:14 AM
Tim Conway was afflicted with dyslexia. In an interview with NPR, he said that the kids in school used to laugh at him because he always made mistakes when reading aloud to the class. So he decided to go into comedy.

R.I.P.
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Post by: Tassie Dave on May 16, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
Bob Hawke, arguably, Australia's most popular former Prime Minister has died at 89

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-16/bob-hawke-dies-former-australian-prime-minister-and-labor-leader/6562902
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Post by: arthwollipot on May 16, 2019, 08:46:33 PM
I grew up during the Hawke years. It's sad, but I have to say not entirely unexpected. I think he would have liked to see his party win tomorrow's election.
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Post by: PANTS! on May 16, 2019, 08:50:04 PM
My bud from Sydney would always boast how y'all had a PM who held the world record in "sculling a yard of beer"
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on May 16, 2019, 09:28:23 PM
My bud from Sydney would always boast how y'all had a PM who held the world record in "sculling a yard of beer"

(https://i.imgur.com/qNwdQbD.jpg)
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Post by: CarbShark on May 17, 2019, 01:27:11 AM
Architect I. M. Pei, perhaps best known for the glass pyramid at the Louvre, dead at 102.


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Post by: amysrevenge on May 17, 2019, 10:46:39 AM
Might be more impactful to some households than others, but


https://twitter.com/RealGrumpyCat/status/1129310647458467840
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Post by: CarbShark on May 17, 2019, 01:11:08 PM


Herman Wouk, Pulitizer Prize-winning author of 'The Caine Mutiny' and 'The Winds of War,' dies at 103 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-herman-wouk-caine-mutiny-pulitzer-dead-20190517-story.html)

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Herman Wouk, the prolific and immensely popular writer who explored the moral fallout of World War II in the Pulitzer Prize-winning “The Caine Mutiny” and other widely read books that gave Americans a raw look at the horrors and consequences of war, has died at his Palm Springs home, where he wrote many of his acclaimed novels.


I met him once about three years ago when I helped him get around at an event. My dad lost his brother who was serving on a minesweeper in the pacific in WWII, and Caine Mutiny was dad's favorite movie and novel.
Title: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on May 27, 2019, 10:45:52 AM
Bart Starr, legendary Hall of Fame football player, dead at 85.

That’s American Football, of course.
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Post by: xenu on May 27, 2019, 10:47:17 AM
I didn't even think he was still alive .
Title: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on May 27, 2019, 11:25:51 AM
He was the Tom Brady of his day.

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on May 27, 2019, 04:02:20 PM
Billy Buckner died complications from dementia 69

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia  (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia)
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Post by: CarbShark on May 27, 2019, 05:17:37 PM
Billy Buckner died complications from dementia 69

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia  (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia)
I don’t think that link goes to the page you intended.


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Post by: xenu on May 28, 2019, 10:13:33 AM
Billy Buckner died complications from dementia 69

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia  (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia)
I don’t think that link goes to the page you intended.


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I thought It did? Bill Buckner the baseball player
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Post by: CarbShark on May 28, 2019, 12:06:52 PM
Takes me to a Cricket story


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Post by: Friendly Angel on May 28, 2019, 01:04:32 PM
Weird, I get the right one.  Carbo's browser been hijacked?
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Post by: CarbShark on May 28, 2019, 01:45:21 PM
Could be, on my iPhone it goes to cricket. On my mac it goes to the Buckner obit.
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Post by: xenu on May 28, 2019, 05:03:07 PM
Could be, on my iPhone it goes to cricket. On my mac it goes to the Buckner obit.

Sounds like your iPhone wants you to like cricket over baseball.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on May 30, 2019, 02:40:31 PM


LEON REDBONE (https://www.leonredbone.com/)


(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5bdcbf037e3c3ac72513e5aa/t/5bdcc35a40ec9aed0b5bf723/1541194587644/dadolder.jpg)

This is what happens when you write your own obituary....

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5bdcbf037e3c3ac72513e5aa/1559227253976-TKG8MG1Y4JGDIIZUDUHF/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kG0sXzLG2I85QyZp8ZpOahl7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0vIHRucUU7a1Vci15HXS8HIyFOUrT9_OnKWFj0z76vvMsMQu7p6EAYImZh1X2UKwEQ/Leon.jpg)
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Post by: CarbShark on June 07, 2019, 12:55:19 AM
Dr John.


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Post by: PANTS! on June 14, 2019, 03:15:05 PM
Roky Erikson (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/roky-erickson-dead-obituary-843105/)   >:(

He is what the Dead wish they could be, but could not hold a candle to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX2MLsMrmCc

And he loved Buddy Holly pop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0kyvqjdKE0

And yet he had a dark proto-punk style too. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6JLKbSjH3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7aLXehSXAo

I came to him while a DJ at the college station and this album (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_the_Pyramid_Meets_the_Eye:_A_Tribute_to_Roky_Erickson) came out.  Remember all the tribute albums in the 90s?  But there was also that great cover of his stuff by Bongwater.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on June 17, 2019, 01:24:13 PM

Gloria Vanderbilt, heiress, socialite and fashion entrepreneur, dies at 95 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-gloria-vanderbilt-dead-20190617-story.html)
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Gloria Vanderbilt, the heiress and “poor little rich girl” in a sensational 1930s custody trial who survived a famously disjointed childhood to become an actress, artist, designer and author, has died. She was 95.
Her death was announced Monday via a CNN report voiced by anchor Anderson Cooper, her son. CNN reported that she died at her home and was suffering from advanced stomach cancer.
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Post by: CarbShark on July 02, 2019, 10:32:07 PM
https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-lee-iacocca-20190702-story.html

Lee Iacocca, father of the Ford Mustang who later rescued Chrysler, dies at 94


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Post by: brilligtove on July 03, 2019, 07:21:00 AM

Gloria Vanderbilt, heiress, socialite and fashion entrepreneur, dies at 95 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-gloria-vanderbilt-dead-20190617-story.html)
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Gloria Vanderbilt, the heiress and “poor little rich girl” in a sensational 1930s custody trial who survived a famously disjointed childhood to become an actress, artist, designer and author, has died. She was 95.
Her death was announced Monday via a CNN report voiced by anchor Anderson Cooper, her son. CNN reported that she died at her home and was suffering from advanced stomach cancer.

Huh. I had no idea Anderson Cooper was her son.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on July 03, 2019, 07:44:51 AM
https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-lee-iacocca-20190702-story.html

Lee Iacocca, father of the Ford Mustang who later rescued Chrysler, dies at 94

Good riddance. He was a forerunner of the star CEO culture and a founding Force for much of today's horrible capitalist practice.

I mean it's not as bad as Jack Welch  but he is up there
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Post by: John Albert on July 06, 2019, 08:20:18 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0mVaRBs.jpg)
Paul Benjamin (left) Clint Eastwood (right) in 1979's 'Escape From Alcatraz.' Paramount Pictures

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Paul Benjamin, who appeared in Spike Lee’s Do The Right Thing, has died. Lee announced on Instagram that the veteran actor died June 28. The cause of death was not immediately known. Benjamin was 81.

Benjamin, who played one of the three wise Brooklyn “cornermen” in Lee’s 1989 film Do the Right Thing, began his career in 1969 as a bartender in Midnight Cowboy. He went to play small roles in Sidney Lumet’s The Anderson Tapes and Born to Win, then segued into more extensive TV work later in the 1970s.

He appeared as a death row inmate in a 1988 episode of In The Heat of the Night and also in the 1994 pilot episode of ER, which led to his recurring role of homeless man Al Ervin during the next few seasons. Benjamin also worked on the American Masters documentary of Pulitzer Prize-winning author Ralph Ellison, which aired on PBS, as well as guest-starring roles in Law & Order and The Shield.

Benjamin’s other film credits include Escape From Alcatraz (1979) Some Kind of Hero (1982) opposite Richard Pryor, Martin Ritt’s drama film Nuts (1987) starring Barbra Streisand, Pink Cadillac (1989) with Clint Eastwood, Robert Townsend’s The Five Heartbeats (1991), Bill Duke’s Hoodlum (1997), and John Singleton’s Rosewood (1997).

His most recent work in the 2000s was in independent films such as Stanley’s Gig, The Station Agent, Deacons For Defense, and James Hunter’s 2005 drama Back in the Day.
https://deadline.com/2019/07/paul-benjamin-dead-do-the-right-thing-actor-was-81-1202642337
Title: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on July 08, 2019, 01:09:58 AM
Cameron Boyce.


https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-st-cameron-boyce-social-media-reactions-20190707-story.html

Disney stars remember actor Cameron Boyce, who has died at age 20

 
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Cameron Boyce, the Disney Channel actor who starred in its TV series "Jessie" and franchise "Descendants," died Saturday of "an ongoing medical condition," his family told ABC News. He was 20 years old.
 

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He performed alongside Kiefer Sutherland in the horror film "Mirrors" (at the age of 9) and Shia LaBeouf in "Eagle Eye" as well as the CBS series "Code Black."
Boyce's breakout role was in the Disney series "Jessie," which he starred in for four seasons. He was best known for his leading role in "Descendants" on which he played Carlos, the son of Cruella De Vil. The actor had wrapped production on "Descendants 3," which is scheduled to premiere in August. He also starred in Disney XD's "Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything."

Boyce earned a Daytime Emmy for promotional announcement with the Disney XD series "Timeless Heroes — Be Inspired," which honored Black History Month. In the series, he appeared alongside his grandmother Jo Ann Boyce, who was one of the 12 black teens who ushered in integration at a Clinton, Tenn., public school.
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Post by: xenu on July 09, 2019, 10:40:21 AM
Ross Perot Billionaire dead 89.
Some of you might remember him. Ran for president.
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Post by: gebobs on July 09, 2019, 03:09:28 PM
Ross Perot Billionaire dead 89.
Some of you might remember him. Ran for president.

https://youtu.be/fLSJLqqlJi8
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Post by: The Latinist on July 09, 2019, 03:48:40 PM
Thanks for that, gebobs.  Gotta say, I miss Phil Hartman.
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Post by: wastrel on July 10, 2019, 12:04:29 AM
Rip Torn, Artie the Producer on 'The Larry Sanders Show,' Dies at 88 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rip-torn-dead-larry-sanders-887059)
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Post by: PANTS! on July 10, 2019, 07:32:39 AM
Oh no.  He was so great as an actor.  Course he lived hard so he kind of knew that he was not going to be a centagenarian.
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Post by: xenu on July 10, 2019, 08:39:53 AM
I agree I loved his characters
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Post by: gebobs on July 10, 2019, 10:53:55 AM
Oh no.  He was so great as an actor.  Course he lived hard so he kind of knew that he was not going to be a centagenarian.

The Larry Sanders Show.

And of course, the one he will always be remembered for in my heart...The Beastmaster! That came out when I was in college. We would watch it over and over and over again. Comedy gold.
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Post by: Ron Obvious on July 10, 2019, 02:49:41 PM
Oh no.  He was so great as an actor.  Course he lived hard so he kind of knew that he was not going to be a centagenarian.

The Larry Sanders Show.

And of course, the one he will always be remembered for in my heart...The Beastmaster! That came out when I was in college. We would watch it over and over and over again. Comedy gold.

That's where I remember him from.  It was said in its early days, that HBO stood for "Hey, Beastmaster is On", since it was on all the time.
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Post by: Paul Blevins Jr. on July 10, 2019, 03:28:11 PM
Ross Perot, Lee Iacocca, Rip Torn. Three in a row all of whom I had thought were long dead.
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Post by: Calinthalus on July 10, 2019, 04:26:17 PM
Ross Perot, Lee Iacocca, Rip Torn. Three in a row all of whom I had thought were long dead.
They were.  This is just another piece of evidence in a long line of proof that the LHC did and does create false histories known as the Mandella effect.







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Post by: fuzzyMarmot on July 14, 2019, 08:10:48 PM
Mitchell Feigenbaum, pioneer of chaos theory died on June 30th.

Check out the period-doubling bifurcations of the logistic map and pour one out for him today.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on July 14, 2019, 08:19:16 PM
Ross Perot, Lee Iacocca, Rip Torn. Three in a row all of whom I had thought were long dead.
They were.  This is just another piece of evidence in a long line of proof that the LHC did and does create false histories known as the Mandella effect.

They always die in threes?
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Post by: Paul Blevins Jr. on July 15, 2019, 02:43:58 PM
When celebrities get very old and you don't hear anything from them for a length of time, one just comes to assume they died. I wouldn't be surprised to find out many people (most?) think Sean Connery and Gene Hackman are dead.

Kirk Douglas and  Olivia de Havilland are seemingly immortal.
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Post by: 2397 on July 15, 2019, 04:43:09 PM
Some of them just retire to their tax shelters instead of trying to remain in the public sphere.
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Post by: John Albert on July 23, 2019, 08:00:32 AM
Paul Krassner, political activist and founder of the "Yippies" (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/21/paul-krassner-radical-activist-dies-at-87-1424334) died July 21, 2019, at 87 years of age. 

(https://i.imgur.com/BbvWf7D.jpg)
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Post by: John Albert on July 23, 2019, 08:04:19 AM
David Hedison, actor in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/david-hedison-dead-voyage-bottom-sea-actor-was-92-1226038), died July 22, 2019, at 92 years of age.

(https://i.imgur.com/Eormprr.jpg)
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Post by: arthwollipot on July 24, 2019, 01:43:58 AM
Margaret Fulton OAM. 6 October 1924 – 24 July 2019

You Americans might not have heard of her, but she was very literally a household name here. Every Australian's mum owns at least one of her cookbooks.

Margaret Fulton, trailblazing Australian food writer, dies aged 94 (https://www.theguardian.com/food/2019/jul/24/margaret-fulton-trailblazing-australian-food-writer-dies-aged-94)

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The acclaimed author and cookbook writer is often credited with introducing generations of Australians to international cuisine

The acclaimed Australian writer and cook Margaret Fulton has died aged 94.

Fulton, a trailblazing author of more than 25 cookbooks, is often credited with bringing international cuisine to a generation of Australians.

She was Australia’s first celebrity cookbook writer.

Her first cookbook, The Margaret Fulton Cookbook, was first published in 1968 and sold more than a million copies. It and the 800-page Margaret Fulton’s Encyclopedia of Food and Cookery, first published in 1983, are regarded as the foundational texts of Australian cooking.
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Post by: PANTS! on July 24, 2019, 02:29:08 PM
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

All those memories will be lost in time. 

Like Tears in the rain.

Time to Die. (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49098435)
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Post by: CarbShark on July 24, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
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Dutch actor Rutger Hauer, 'Blade Runner' star, dies at 75 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2019-07-24/rutger-hauer-dead-blade-runner)
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Rutger Hauer, the Dutch actor who starred as the alien Roy Batty in 1982’s “Blade Runner,” has died. He was 75.
Hauer, whose other American TV and film credits included “Batman Begins,” “Sin City” and “True Blood,” “passed away peacefully at his Dutch home” on July 19, according to a Wednesday announcement on the actor’s AIDS charity website, the Rutger Hauer Starfish Assn. His death came after a very short illness, the announcement said.

A fine villain, in his day.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on July 24, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
All those memories will be lost in time. 

Like Tears in the rain.

Time to Die. (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49098435)

That was young.  :'(
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Ah.hell on July 24, 2019, 03:06:17 PM
All those memories will be lost in time. 

Like Tears in the rain.

Time to Die. (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49098435)

That was young.  :'(
75 was young? 
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: PANTS! on July 24, 2019, 03:53:29 PM
All those memories will be lost in time. 

Like Tears in the rain.

Time to Die. (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49098435)

That was young.  :'(

No that was Hauer.  Sean Young doesn't die in Blade Runner.   ;D
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Post by: Tassie Dave on July 24, 2019, 04:13:11 PM
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Dutch actor Rutger Hauer, 'Blade Runner' star, dies at 75 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2019-07-24/rutger-hauer-dead-blade-runner)
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Rutger Hauer, the Dutch actor who starred as the alien Roy Batty in 1982’s “Blade Runner,” has died. He was 75.
Hauer, whose other American TV and film credits included “Batman Begins,” “Sin City” and “True Blood,” “passed away peacefully at his Dutch home” on July 19, according to a Wednesday announcement on the actor’s AIDS charity website, the Rutger Hauer Starfish Assn. His death came after a very short illness, the announcement said.

A fine villain, in his day.

Coincidentally, Rutger has died in the same year as Roy Batty died in the film. I hope Daryl Hannah doesn't follow  ???

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: wastrel on July 24, 2019, 04:34:06 PM
My go to reference for Rutger Hauer was Blind Fury.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on July 24, 2019, 08:48:43 PM
After Blade Runner, mine was Lady Hawke.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on July 24, 2019, 10:22:05 PM
For me it was "The Blood of Heroes"

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Post by: arthwollipot on July 24, 2019, 11:01:06 PM
For me it was "The Blood of Heroes"

Also known outside the United States as "Salute of the Jugger".

Did you know that the highly improbable sport that was invented for the movie has been turned into an actual game that real people play (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugger)?
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on July 24, 2019, 11:19:48 PM
For me it was "The Blood of Heroes"

Also known outside the United States as "Salute of the Jugger".

Did you know that the highly improbable sport that was invented for the movie has been turned into an actual game that real people play (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugger)?

I did not know that, wow.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on July 24, 2019, 11:22:17 PM
For me it was "The Blood of Heroes"

Also known outside the United States as "Salute of the Jugger".

Did you know that the highly improbable sport that was invented for the movie has been turned into an actual game that real people play (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugger)?

I did not know that, wow.

The Canberra team has been kicking butt all over the world. I like to think that it's because a lot of them have attended my sword training sessions :D
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Post by: CarbShark on July 24, 2019, 11:24:29 PM

Did you know that the highly improbable sport that was invented for the movie has been turned into an actual game that real people play (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugger)?

Wow, just like quidditch!


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Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on July 24, 2019, 11:38:34 PM
All those memories will be lost in time. 

Like Tears in the rain.

Time to Die. (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49098435)

That was young.  :'(
75 was young?

The closer I get to 65 the younger it seems
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Post by: CarbShark on August 16, 2019, 07:04:47 PM
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Peter Fonda dies at 79 - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2019-08-16/peter-fonda-dead)
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Peter Fonda, the counterculture icon who came from a show business family that included his father, Henry Fonda, and sister, Jane Fonda, has died.
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Post by: Calinthalus on August 23, 2019, 09:52:41 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/david-koch-dead/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/david-koch-dead/index.html)


David Koch dead.  Too bad there's not a hell to burn in.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: 2397 on August 23, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
Maybe he figured that with the Amazon seeing record fires, on top of everything else, he could leave the world in the state that he wanted it to be.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: wastrel on August 23, 2019, 03:14:45 PM
https://twitter.com/perlmutations/status/1164916244270612480
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Post by: Ah.hell on August 27, 2019, 12:06:57 PM
For all the Koch hate, he also gave 100s of millions of dollars to non-political charities, 100s of millions to cancer research alone.  He ran for vice president on a platform that included gay rights, drug legalization, and criminal justice reform that was big on the rights of the accused, but I guess all that matters is the one thing lefties disagreed with him on to make him irredeemably evil.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: amysrevenge on August 27, 2019, 12:13:15 PM
Looks like a "but hey, the trains ran on time" argument from here.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on August 27, 2019, 12:20:28 PM
My biggest issue with the Koch industries are their strong libertarian political stand. They were tying to push the republican party to a hard core Libertarian platform. They did back democrats when they coincide with their ideology, but that was pretty rare. Libertarians like Koch like less government intervention because they are in a position to be their own government. People with less means don't have that luxury. I have some Libertarian leanings like most people. I am not sad to see him go.

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on August 30, 2019, 07:22:36 PM
Valerie Harper (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/30/entertainment/valerie-harper-obituary/index.html)
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Post by: John Albert on September 01, 2019, 07:55:51 AM
Gordon Bressack (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/gordon-bressack-dead-dies-pinky-and-the-brain-1203320010/), writer of "Animaniacs," "Jimmy Neutron," "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles," and "Pinky and the Brain."
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Boßel on September 01, 2019, 01:57:14 PM
Gordon Bressack (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/gordon-bressack-dead-dies-pinky-and-the-brain-1203320010/), writer of "Animaniacs," "Jimmy Neutron," "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles," and "Pinky and the Brain."

 :'(

Froinlaven, Gordon Bressack, froinlaven.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: xenu on September 02, 2019, 12:12:48 PM
Franco Columbo died 78

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  Franco Columbu, a bodybuilder, boxer and actor who appeared in the films The Terminator and Conan the Barbarian alongside his close friend Arnold Schwarzenegger, has died. Columbu was 78. The Italian star passed away Friday after drowning in his native Sardinia, The Associated Press reported. He lived in Los Angeles…

 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/franco-columbu  (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/franco-columbu)
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Post by: CarbShark on September 02, 2019, 02:07:01 PM


Jessi Combs dies while trying to break her land speed record - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2019-08-28/jessi-combs-dies)

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Professional driver and TV personality Jessi Combs died in a crash Tuesday while trying to break her own land speed record. She was 39.

Combs’ North American Eagle Supersonic Speed Challenger teammate Terry Madden confirmed Wednesday on Instagram that “we lost her yesterday in a horrific accident.”

“I was the first one there and trust me we did everything humanly possible to save her!!” Madden wrote of the crash that occurred around 4 p.m. in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on September 05, 2019, 04:32:43 PM


Kylie Rae Harris, country singer, dies in car accident - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/entertainment/kylie-rae-harris-country-singer-dead-trnd/index.html)

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Kylie Rae Harris, a rising country singer from Texas, died in a car accident on Wednesday in New Mexico, Alex Torrez, the CEO of her management company, Torrez Music Group, tells CNN. She was 30.

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Calinthalus on September 05, 2019, 04:35:25 PM


Kylie Rae Harris, country singer, dies in car accident - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/entertainment/kylie-rae-harris-country-singer-dead-trnd/index.html)

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Kylie Rae Harris, a rising country singer from Texas, died in a car accident on Wednesday in New Mexico, Alex Torrez, the CEO of her management company, Torrez Music Group, tells CNN. She was 30.

I saw that on SCM this morning.  I didn't know if she was notable outside of my little circles. 


A few hours before she died, she posted this on her Instagram story:
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“I’m alright, I look a mess. It’s because I’ve been crying. It’s a good cry. I just got to Taos, NM. But for those of you who don’t know, I spent the last 20 years of my life coming to Taos with my dad, my sisters, my grandparents lived here, my uncle still lives here. Literally everybody that was here has passed away, except for my uncle, including my dad. Driving these roads today—I’ve been driving for 12 hours—you would think that’s so exhausting and boring … And remembering my place in the back seat, and I started getting really sad…”
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on September 06, 2019, 01:44:29 AM
Robert Mugabe, 21 February 1924 – 6 September 2019 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-06/robert-mugabe-dies-age-95/4002646).
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Sawyer on September 11, 2019, 12:11:54 AM
Leslie H. Gelb, 82, Former Diplomat and New York Times Journalist, Dies (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/leslie-gelb-dead.html)

This is a week old but I wanted to post it here.  On a recent thread about the war in Iraq, I kept having minor quibbles with how people were missing part of the story by solely focusing on lies.  I realize now that my stance was largely informed by an interview Les Gelb did with On The Media a while back.  He talks about how frustrating it was to see public attention of the Pentagon Papers narrowly focused on the lies and screw-ups, whereas for the people originally involved in both creating and releasing them, one of the more shocking revelations was what our leaders actually believed.  He stresses how many people in our government treated the Domino Theory as absolute gospel, and how the more rational people in the Pentagon could not make inroads with them no matter how hard they tried.  He also notes that even in admitting a lot of awful stuff later on, McNamara and others still tend to distort the story of what the Pentagon Papers were in the first place.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/remembering-les-gelb
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Post by: Beef Wellington on September 11, 2019, 05:32:15 PM
Austin Songwriting Genius Daniel Johnston Dead at 58

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2019-09-11/austin-songwriting-genius-daniel-johnston-dead-at-58/
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Awatsjr on September 12, 2019, 03:45:45 AM


Jessi Combs dies while trying to break her land speed record - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2019-08-28/jessi-combs-dies)

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Professional driver and TV personality Jessi Combs died in a crash Tuesday while trying to break her own land speed record. She was 39.

Combs’ North American Eagle Supersonic Speed Challenger teammate Terry Madden confirmed Wednesday on Instagram that “we lost her yesterday in a horrific accident.”

“I was the first one there and trust me we did everything humanly possible to save her!!” Madden wrote of the crash that occurred around 4 p.m. in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.

She was the real deal up there with Shirley Muldowney, Angelle Sampey, Kitty O'Neal and Susan Oliver. Many others.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on September 12, 2019, 04:29:05 AM
You may not have known him, but Robert S. Lancaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_S._Lancaster) was a friend of mine. I was privileged to have spent some time with him and his wife on my first trip to the USA. He passed away last weekend.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: brilligtove on September 12, 2019, 08:38:56 AM
You may not have known him, but Robert S. Lancaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_S._Lancaster) was a friend of mine. I was privileged to have spent some time with him and his wife on my first trip to the USA. He passed away last weekend.

Sorry for your loss.
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Post by: drwfishesman on September 12, 2019, 02:57:49 PM
You may not have known him, but Robert S. Lancaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_S._Lancaster) was a friend of mine. I was privileged to have spent some time with him and his wife on my first trip to the USA. He passed away last weekend.

https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/robert-s-lancaster-february-11-1958-september-7-2019/

Great article about Lancaster..by most estimations, the man was a class act.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: arthwollipot on September 12, 2019, 08:35:12 PM
You may not have known him, but Robert S. Lancaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_S._Lancaster) was a friend of mine. I was privileged to have spent some time with him and his wife on my first trip to the USA. He passed away last weekend.

https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/robert-s-lancaster-february-11-1958-september-7-2019/

Great article about Lancaster..by most estimations, the man was a class act.

He was. One of the kindest and most compassionate of skeptical activists. The world, and the skeptical community specifically, is diminished by his loss.

It was not sudden. He has been declining for a long time. But it is sad. A lot of kind words have been said in the Community section of the International Skeptics Forum, where he was well-loved, especially back in the days when it was still run by the JREF.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: CarbShark on September 13, 2019, 11:46:00 AM
https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2019-09-13/eddie-money-dead

Eddie Money, hit-maker behind ‘Two Tickets to Paradise’ and ‘Baby Hold On,’ dies at 70


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Post by: PANTS! on September 13, 2019, 11:49:45 AM
https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2019-09-13/eddie-money-dead

Eddie Money, hit-maker behind ‘Two Tickets to Paradise’ and ‘Baby Hold On,’ dies at 70

Really?  Bummer, man.  I don't think he was great or even very good, but he made fun, enjoyable music.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on September 13, 2019, 01:39:50 PM
Dadaist prank caller Longmont Potion Castle did a series of pranks on Edward "Eddie Money" Mahoney. He seems like such a nice guy, real polite and accommodating, who certainly didn't deserve that kind of abuse. (Still funny tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtos2rYOy1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG9RxlmjgaU

R.I.P. Eddie Money.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Beef Wellington on September 13, 2019, 04:24:36 PM
Dadaist prank caller Longmont Potion Castle did a series of pranks on Eddie "Money" Mahoney. He seems like such a nice guy, real polite and accommodating, who certainly didn't deserve that kind of abuse.

R.I.P. Eddie Money.

You scared me for a second, I thought LPC had died, too. RIP Mr. Money...
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on September 14, 2019, 02:17:27 PM
You scared me for a second, I thought LPC had died, too.

Someday, somebody's gonna take a branch to his jaw.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Beef Wellington on September 14, 2019, 03:42:06 PM
You scared me for a second, I thought LPC had died, too.

Someday, somebody's gonna take a branch to his jaw.

Nobody knows who he is, despite a documentary and a scrapped TV pilot.
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Post by: PANTS! on September 15, 2019, 09:52:57 PM
Ric Ocasek

https://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,51470.0.html
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Post by: CarbShark on September 17, 2019, 11:14:12 AM
https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2019-09-17/cokie-roberts-dies-at-75

Cokie Roberts, longtime political journalist, dies at 75

I liked her.


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Post by: xenu on September 17, 2019, 11:23:08 AM
I just saw this. I am truly saddened by this. I knew she had health issues but I thought she was getting better.
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Post by: Captain Video on September 23, 2019, 10:38:44 AM
Sid Haig 80

Star Trek, being a heavy in blaxploitation films like Foxy Brown, Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, Buck rogers in the 25 century, Jason of Star Command, Jacky Brown and and eventually Rob Zombie's Captain Spaulding.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/23/sid-haig-house-1000-corpses-captain-spaulding-dead-dies-80/

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Sid Haig -- best known as Captain Spaulding in Rob Zombie's "House of 1000 Corpses" trilogy -- has died.

The horror icon's wife, Suzie, shared the news Monday on Sid's own social media account, writing ... "On Saturday, September 21, 2019, my light, my heart, my true love, my King, the other half of my soul, Sidney, passed from this realm on to the next."


top secret clown business

https://youtu.be/tUVzt4MAev0

Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Morvis13 on September 23, 2019, 12:27:18 PM
Geez I had no idea his Filmography is so long.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: wastrel on September 23, 2019, 03:47:13 PM
The gf and I just rewatched The Devils Rejects last night, coincidentally.


Very sad.
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Captain Video on September 23, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Geez I had no idea his Filmography is so long.

I have a strong remembrance of him from when I was a kid watching Buck Rogers from the 2 part episode Flight of the War Witch where he played Queen Zarinas heavy (Zarina played by Catwoman Julie Newmar)

you can watch it free here https://www.nbc.com/buck-rogers-in-the-25th-century/video/flight-of-the-war-witch-part-1/3979554

I sure miss those 70s science fiction outfits

I was also a fan of Jason of Star Command, Sid as Dragos scared the crap out of me as a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqwoxZZlkKU
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: The Latinist on September 26, 2019, 07:06:27 AM
Jaques Chirac (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/obituaries/jacques-chirac-dead.html)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: John Albert on October 06, 2019, 07:27:09 AM
Noted asshole (https://bit.ly/2gD8mdS) and incredible rock drummer Ginger Baker (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/06/ginger-baker-wild-and-brilliant-cream-drummer-dies-aged-80)
Title: Re: Notable passings and other milestones
Post by: Ron Obvious on October 13, 2019, 05:26:34 PM
Acclaimed stage actor and voice of Marvin in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Stephen Moore (81) (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/oct/13/stephen-moore-obituary)

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It is perhaps ironic that the vastly experienced, smooth as silk, inherently funny stage actor Stephen Moore, who has died aged 81, should be remembered mostly for voicing a robot, the paranoid android Marvin in the original radio series of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. Douglas Adams’s hilarious science-fiction adventure began in 1978 and Moore stayed with it through four more series, the television show (still just the voice), the records and the audio books.