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Title: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: AQB24712 on July 19, 2017, 11:21:34 AM
(As swiped from mindme's Facebook post.)

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You're an educated, literate person. Whenever you meet someone at a cocktail party, you're perfectly capable of chatting about NPR, kale, John [sic]Stewart, and the latest Margaret Atwood. How fortunate that person doesn't ride the 8:13 train into the city with you, so they don't see you giggling at the Howard Stern podcast and flipping through "The 100 Funniest Fart Jokes In History."

From the list of 100 titles, (http://www.listchallenges.com/books-youll-never-brag-about-having-read) the average number read is ten.  I clicked seven.  Although I follow Henry Rollins' philosophy of "no guilty pleasures," here're my justifications/explanations.

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I've read seven of them, which apparently puts me in the top 54% of respondents, wtf.

In my defense, I was an adolescent American girl; most of us, I'd say, read "Forever" and "Go Ask Alice."

The Scarsdale Diet book: Again, young American woman, impressionable and hating my body.

"Peyton Place": Actually has a place in the history of American fiction.

"Flowers in the Attic," "Petals on the Wind," "The Amityville Horror": I got nothin. Except that I think I read that last one after the movie, out of that "check the source material" curiosity.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Andrew Clunn on July 19, 2017, 11:27:03 AM
I've read three: The Bell Curve, Mein Kampf, and Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: DonA on July 19, 2017, 11:35:26 AM
I scored 5 books off that list.

A couple I read knowing they were shitty, but read them anyway.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Ah.hell on July 19, 2017, 12:08:36 PM
I scored 5 but that's because I've read a bunch of Tom Clancy and some Grisham, not sure I've I've read the one's on the list.

Seems like there are quite a few I wouldn't brag about but I wouldn't be ashamed of either.  Nixon and Clinton's books for instance. 

Million little pieces, I was about half way in on vacation, then decided to look it up on google and found out it was BS, anyone who read that book and needed to be told it was at least 50% BS is a sucker.   The book is half, "I was a drug addled asshole" and half, "I was the kind of bad ass men want to be and women want to be with".   
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Friendly Angel on July 19, 2017, 12:35:01 PM
I will just say that The DaVinci Code was way better than it gets credit for. 
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Sawyer on July 19, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
inb4 PDB Kanye's this thread and declares Bell Curve the best book of all time.   :laugh:


Thanks to not reading much after high school and being pretentious in my current book selections, I scored a whopping zero.  The only book on my "to read" list I see there is the Doris Kearns Goodwin book about the Kennedys.  I'm assuming the criterion for selecting it was essentially "find an overly fawning book about the Kennedys that plays into the Camelot mythos".  Or was it the self plagiarism stuff?

I think I have the opposite problem as the one expressed in this list.  The only reason I'd hesitate to bring up a book in casual conversation is not because it was trashy, but fear of looking pretentious.  For example, I would readily claim that I learned something interesting about Alexander Hamilton from the musical rather than admit I wasted an entire month slogging through the Ron Chernow bio.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: random poet on July 19, 2017, 05:20:48 PM
Whoa, what? Why would they put Pride and Prejudice and Zombies on that list? And Das Capital? And some innocuous biographies? (Come on, the Clintons and Justin Bieber are as infamous as Hilter and OJ?)

The only one on there I've read is The Da Vinci Code and I agree that it's the worst. My mother gave it to me, all like "omg you have to read this!" Not cool, mom.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Mr. Beagle on July 19, 2017, 05:51:50 PM
"Listen to the Warm" by Rod McKuen. I have long thought "real poets" were too hard on Rod (and likely jealous of his financial success).
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Drunken Idaho on July 19, 2017, 07:11:26 PM
The two Dan Brown novels and Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

Whoa, what? Why would they put Pride and Prejudice and Zombies on that list? And Das Capital? And some innocuous biographies? (Come on, the Clintons and Justin Bieber are as infamous as Hilter and OJ?)

The only one on there I've read is The Da Vinci Code and I agree that it's the worst. My mother gave it to me, all like "omg you have to read this!" Not cool, mom.

If the theme is "books you wouldn't brag about reading," I think Bieber still fits the bill, but I figure any former president's bio is probably worth a read.

I remember thinking the Dan Brown books were dumb fun, I read them both on flights and had no regrets. P&P&Z shouldn't be on that list!
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: amysrevenge on July 19, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
5. 3 are bad. 2 are My Life/Clinton and P&P&Z which are not bad.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Drunken Idaho on July 19, 2017, 08:19:46 PM
5. 3 are bad. 2 are My Life/Clinton and P&P&Z which are not bad.

Well tell us the bad ones!!  >:D
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: random poet on July 19, 2017, 08:25:01 PM
5. 3 are bad. 2 are My Life/Clinton and P&P&Z which are not bad.

Well tell us the bad ones!!  >:D
It was The Gossip Girl. All three times.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Caffiene on July 19, 2017, 08:55:26 PM
2. I think...

Ive read both the Dan Brown books. I dont know that Id brag, but they were completely acceptable popcorn action / dumb fun.

I may have read the Tom Clancy one, but I cant remember. Ive read a bunch of Clancy books (and "Tom Clancy on the cover but actually written by somebody else" books). Tended to read more of the pulp near-future sci-fi type stuff that was put out under his name though.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: amysrevenge on July 19, 2017, 09:56:40 PM
5. 3 are bad. 2 are My Life/Clinton and P&P&Z which are not bad.

Well tell us the bad ones!!  >:D

Mr. Hubbard x2 (the fiction, not Dianetics). Battlefield Earth is worth a read. The Mission: Earth stuff is entirely forgettable.
Von Danniken (for research purposes)
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: arthwollipot on July 19, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: aleks335 on July 20, 2017, 05:05:51 AM
I have only read one of these.
Capital by Marx (vol 1. that is), and I'll definitely talk about that at parties, if given the chance.
(no, I don't always do well at parties).
And to be honest, Captial has nothing to do on this list, the other "political" books here is of a completely different category. 
The Communist Manifesto should be on this list instead I think. Capital is a study of capitalism, this is where he outlines his theory of value etc. The Communist Manifesto is his political program, they are works of completely different nature.
(my score would also go up as I have read it twice)

But maybe this is a cultural thing. Marx was never the great evil here in Norway. Our labour party (social-democrats after ww2 and have now turned neo-liberal light) was in the COMINTERN from 1918 to 1923.  I read the Manifesto for the first time at 15, and my christian parents saw nothing remarkable in this other than me reading something voluntarily.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Louie on July 23, 2017, 01:19:27 PM
I'm with Caffiene. I just went ahead and clicked the Grisham and all of the Clancy's (although f**k knows which ones I've actually read), as well as the Dan Brown books. Those are all just populist thrillers, though. I wouldn't brag about having read them, but it doesn't embarrass me at all. Decent beach and campsite fare.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: PANTS! on July 23, 2017, 03:57:38 PM
HA.  I have read 17 - as an estimate.  I will say that some of those I have not completed.  I will abandon a book that I think is a waste of time.   What got me a high score was reading the Tim LaHaye books as an exercise in irony.  That and discovering my parent's literary smut collection when going through puberty.  May as well finish the damn Danielle Steele book now, said my 13 yo self, I owe her that much.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: arthwollipot on July 23, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
I'm with Caffiene. I just went ahead and clicked the Grisham and all of the Clancy's (although f**k knows which ones I've actually read), as well as the Dan Brown books. Those are all just populist thrillers, though. I wouldn't brag about having read them, but it doesn't embarrass me at all. Decent beach and campsite fare.
I enjoyed them. Yeah, they're not exactly intellectual, but they're the kind of thumb-in-bum-mind-in-neutral reading for when you just want to kill time in a not unpleasant way.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Tassie Dave on July 24, 2017, 02:35:49 AM
I was made to read "Jonathan Livingstone Seagull" in Primary School by a teacher who thought it was deeper than it actually was. So that doesn't really count.

The only one I chose to read was "Battlefield Earth". Back in the 80s. Before I knew who and what an asshat L. Ron Hubbard was.

It was "ok" for a trashy sci-fi novel.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Paul Blevins Jr. on July 27, 2017, 03:54:27 PM
Just four.

Chariots of the Gods As a kid in the early seventies, I was really into UFOs, ancient astronauts, Bigfoot, Nessie and devoured a ton of books on 'em. Result of all that reading? I eventually realized it was all bullshit.

Debt of Honor I greatly enjoyed the movie Hunt for Red October and the Harrison Ford Jack Ryan movies. So I started reading the Clancy novels that followed Clear and Present Danger. Clancy could really have used a better editor, the books were all FAR too long. But surprisingly, I didn't find them as hard far-right as I had feared.

Jonathan Livingston Seagull  Again, I was a kid of the seventies. This and the movie were really huge in the early seventies.

The Amityville Horror  Read at the time (late seventies)it just to see what all the hype was. Found it kind of scary (as a NOVEL, by this point I totally rejected the existence of ghosts) but ultimately under-whelming.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Harry Black on August 01, 2017, 06:38:39 AM
Only two- The Lance Armstrong book and The Da Vinci Code.
I think the Jack Reacher books should be added to the list.
Im very suspicious though of people who never seem to read a bad book. I think if you arent picking bad ones then you arent taking enough chances and steps outside your comfort zone.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Ah.hell on August 01, 2017, 09:22:15 AM
I don't remember there being any clive cussler on the list, he's Tom Clancy for poor readers. 
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: John Albert on August 01, 2017, 11:30:26 AM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntiPIVSiysQ
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: SkepticalEsquire on August 01, 2017, 11:40:42 AM
Way of the Peaceful Warrior by Dan Millman and, Ramtha by Ramtha  (JZ Knight).  For awhile in my late teens I was all  new agey and deep and brooding ::).  Embarrassing as hell now.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: amysrevenge on August 01, 2017, 11:46:00 AM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

The second half of BE (book), starting after they retake the Earth, is solid entertaining SF. Credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Swagomatic on August 01, 2017, 02:15:50 PM
I've read six of them, the 2 Dan Browns, the 2 John Grishams, Jonathan Livingston Seagull & Chariots of the Gods.  The last two I read when I was 12 or 13, maybe.  They're pretty old books.  The Browns books and the Grisham books are like eating junk food.  I'm not really proud of it, but, at the time, it tasted pretty, pretty okay.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Swagomatic on August 01, 2017, 02:17:41 PM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

The second half of BE (book), starting after they retake the Earth, is solid entertaining SF. Credit where it's due.

My brother read 5 or six Hubbard books.  I am a huge sci-fi fan, but I just couldn't get into Hubbard.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: arthwollipot on August 01, 2017, 05:16:05 PM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

The second half of BE (book), starting after they retake the Earth, is solid entertaining SF. Credit where it's due.

Yes, it's about as entertaining as E. E. Doc Smith, which is to say reasonably entertaining so long as you take the social mores of the time into account.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Ah.hell on August 01, 2017, 05:21:14 PM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

The second half of BE (book), starting after they retake the Earth, is solid entertaining SF. Credit where it's due.

Yes, it's about as entertaining as E. E. Doc Smith, which is to say reasonably entertaining so long as you take the social mores of the time into account.
I loved the lensmen series as a kid but I've tried reading them as an adult.......not so much.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on August 01, 2017, 06:13:47 PM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

The second half of BE (book), starting after they retake the Earth, is solid entertaining SF. Credit where it's due.

Yes, it's about as entertaining as E. E. Doc Smith, which is to say reasonably entertaining so long as you take the social mores of the time into account.
I loved how the "less than perfect" strains of beings like humans were sometimes carried by women. The GOOD strain was straight male all the way down.  ::)
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: John Albert on August 04, 2017, 04:17:21 AM
When I was in college I read The Art of Dreaming by Carlos Castaneda.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Ah.hell on August 04, 2017, 09:57:23 AM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

The second half of BE (book), starting after they retake the Earth, is solid entertaining SF. Credit where it's due.

Yes, it's about as entertaining as E. E. Doc Smith, which is to say reasonably entertaining so long as you take the social mores of the time into account.
I loved how the "less than perfect" strains of beings like humans were sometimes carried by women. The GOOD strain was straight male all the way down.  ::)
First read them when I was maybe 10, went back at read one or two as an adult.  Really noticed the sexism and racism the second time.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Swagomatic on August 04, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
When I was in college I read The Art of Dreaming by Carlos Castaneda.

Yeah, or The Tao of Physics, by Fritjof Capra  :laugh: :-[
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Drunken Idaho on August 04, 2017, 05:39:24 PM
Im very suspicious though of people who never seem to read a bad book. I think if you arent picking bad ones then you arent taking enough chances and steps outside your comfort zone.

I had to think about this a bit...

On one hand, you're absolutely right about not taking enough chances.

On the other hand, almost everything I read (or watch, for that matter) is related to something I already like, or recommended to me by people whose tastes I either share, or interest me... and there's already more material that I want to consume than I every practically could.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on August 04, 2017, 08:01:31 PM
I've read 3. The two Dan Browns and Battlefield Earth.

Yes, I've read Battlefield Earth. It wasn't very good, but it was better than the movie.

The second half of BE (book), starting after they retake the Earth, is solid entertaining SF. Credit where it's due.

Yes, it's about as entertaining as E. E. Doc Smith, which is to say reasonably entertaining so long as you take the social mores of the time into account.
I loved how the "less than perfect" strains of beings like humans were sometimes carried by women. The GOOD strain was straight male all the way down.  ::)
First read them when I was maybe 10, went back at read one or two as an adult.  Really noticed the sexism and racism the second time.
And the utterly black-and-white nature of the struggle.

But the fun part was that Kit Kinnison had exactly four females that were fit to carry on his huge evolutionary baggage.

Did I mention he had four sisters, all with the same huge evolutionary baggage?
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: John Albert on August 04, 2017, 10:27:52 PM
When I was in college I read The Art of Dreaming by Carlos Castaneda.

Yeah, or The Tao of Physics, by Fritjof Capra  :laugh: :-[

I read a lot of other woo books over the years, books by Erich Von Daniken, Terence McKenna, Colin Wilson, even Whitley Strieber. But I never afforded any credibility to any of them.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on August 05, 2017, 04:24:57 AM
When I was in college I read The Art of Dreaming by Carlos Castaneda.

Yeah, or The Tao of Physics, by Fritjof Capra  :laugh: :-[

I read a lot of other woo books over the years, books by Erich Von Daniken, Terence McKenna, Colin Wilson, even Whitley Strieber. But I never afforded any credibility to any of them.
Ever read any of the Frank Edwards books? He invented woo.  ;D
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: arthwollipot on August 05, 2017, 08:11:57 AM
Wait - I just realised that I've been misreading the title of this thread all along.

The title is actually "Books you'll never brag about having read", not "Books you'll brag about never having read".

Damn. That changes everything.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: John Albert on August 05, 2017, 10:26:08 AM
Yeah, there are actually two anti- bragging about books threads. This one is about books you never brag about having read, and the other is about books you do brag about not having read.

Right now they're #1 and #2 on the first page of the "Books" subforum, so be careful! ;)
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: John Albert on August 05, 2017, 10:30:54 AM
Ever read any of the Frank Edwards books? He invented woo.  ;D

I have not.

But at this point I'm going through something of a midlife crisis over the magnitude of the body of literature that I will never have time to get through in my remaining lifetime. So I'm rather past the point of wasting time on stuff I explicitly don't care about.
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: arthwollipot on August 05, 2017, 06:33:20 PM
Yeah, there are actually two anti- bragging about books threads. This one is about books you never brag about having read, and the other is about books you do brag about not having read.

Right now they're #1 and #2 on the first page of the "Books" subforum, so be careful! ;)
Okay, now I'm completely confused!  :D
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Sawyer on August 06, 2017, 01:00:38 AM
Yeah, there are actually two anti- bragging about books threads. This one is about books you never brag about having read, and the other is about books you do brag about not having read.

Right now they're #1 and #2 on the first page of the "Books" subforum, so be careful! ;)
Okay, now I'm completely confused!  :D

How about we start "Reds That Bragged About Never Having Bookies", a thread about Pete Rose denying betting on baseball games?
Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Tatyana on August 06, 2017, 07:30:24 AM
I don't understand  why 'Less than Zero' by Bret Easton Ellis was on the list.


Title: Re: Books You'll Never Brag About Having Read
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on August 06, 2017, 08:02:41 AM
I don't understand  why 'Less than Zero' by Bret Easton Ellis was on the list.
Which one?

 :D