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Title: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: moj on September 26, 2018, 02:27:32 PM
This article showed up in feedly and it reminded me that a group of friends have talked about this kind of extensively and none of us like raisins. None of us like them or know anyone irl that eats them on purpose. While I'm not a millennial, most of my friend are but am not sure its a generational thing? What do you think? If you can only pick one snack at an imaginary store that has everything, how far down on the list is raisin? Would anyone have it in there top 100?

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/9/26/17901510/sun-maid-raisins-taste-of-nostalgia
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: 2397 on September 26, 2018, 02:57:55 PM
I put raisins on porridge (rice), prefer buns with raisins to plain buns, and raisins and nuts to just nuts. My spouse likes chocolate-covered raisins. I'll opt for something else, but I think it's better than plain chocolate.

So raisins by themselves, no. But I wouldn't want just a spoon of sugar or butter, either.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 26, 2018, 03:19:49 PM
Been eating raisins since ~ 1953, when my teeth came in.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: The Latinist on September 26, 2018, 03:21:38 PM
I don’t buy raisins or add them to food myself, but I’ll eat them in granola or cookies and such.  I prefer craisins, though, which I like to have on salads.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on September 26, 2018, 03:32:19 PM
CarbShark has a stash of them hidden under a false bottom of a desk drawer.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Captain Video on September 26, 2018, 03:52:48 PM
How dare they screw up a perfectly good bread pudding with that crap.

Ill eat just about any dried fruit, I even like craisins and dried cherries but for some reason I cant stand raisins, sultanas, currants or prunes
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: seamas on September 26, 2018, 03:57:04 PM
I recall as a kid getting one of those wee boxes of Sunmaid raisins as a snack. I don't think I have really gone out of my way to eat raisins on their own since.

However, nowadays raisins are just another dried fruit to me, so they are something I will consume (my wife buys a about a pound a month), but I will mix them with peanuts, walnuts, almonds dried cranberries and dried apricot and some M&Ms for a trail mix.

Just last night I ate a small bowl of what was 2/3 raisins and 1/3 peanuts.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on September 26, 2018, 07:35:27 PM
I like chocolate covered ones. What's the difference between a raisin and a sultana anyway?
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Captain Video on September 26, 2018, 08:32:23 PM
I like chocolate covered ones. What's the difference between a raisin and a sultana anyway?

They also call them golden raisins which are made from sultana grapes. I do like the grapes.

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Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Jeremy's Sea on September 26, 2018, 08:33:53 PM
I buy them occasionally. I do enjoy them and they don't feel completely decadent, but they're sweet.

My girlfriend though did ask me how old I was when I bought them. Then asked if I required an afternoon nap in the aisle at work too...
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Belgarath on September 26, 2018, 09:20:39 PM
This article showed up in feedly and it reminded me that a group of friends have talked about this kind of extensively and none of us like raisins. None of us like them or know anyone irl that eats them on purpose. While I'm not a millennial, most of my friend are but am not sure its a generational thing? What do you think? If you can only pick one snack at an imaginary store that has everything, how far down on the list is raisin? Would anyone have it in there top 100?

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/9/26/17901510/sun-maid-raisins-taste-of-nostalgia

Well, now you do know someone IRL who likes raisins..... :P

Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Beleth on September 26, 2018, 11:01:48 PM
My girlfriend though did ask me how old I was when I bought them. Then asked if I required an afternoon nap in the aisle at work too...

Ha, yeah, I associate them with childhood too. I don't mind them in other things, but I don't think I've ever just went out and bought myself a big ol' box of Sun-Maids.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Awatsjr on September 27, 2018, 08:27:26 PM
Love raisins.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Paul Blevins Jr. on September 27, 2018, 10:00:18 PM
https://youtu.be/5ePOvv1VvCg
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Boßel on September 27, 2018, 10:36:08 PM
Only in oatmeal raisin cookie form.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: moj on September 28, 2018, 06:20:22 AM
lol it seems I have under estimated the raisiny love. I don't really hate them, hate them, like I hate Lindsey Gram. It does still confuse me why someone would pick to make oatmeal raisin cookie over any other cookie? I'll eat it if its all that's left and I'm hungry but in my cookie hierarchy it's at the bottom and may be a little mad at whoever picked or made them for not making something better. I'm just not a fan of dried fruits. Fresh fruit, yes, love it. I'll eat grapes all day, any dried fruit, must be really hungry.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: The Latinist on September 28, 2018, 08:27:15 AM
It does still confuse me why someone would pick to make oatmeal raisin cookie over any other cookie? I'll eat it if its all that's left and I'm hungry but in my cookie hierarchy it's at the bottom and may be a little mad at whoever picked or made them for not making something better.

I'm not really sure why anyone makes anything but chocolate chip cookies; but oatmeal raisin cookies can really be very good.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: DonA on September 28, 2018, 10:40:22 AM
I don't hunt raisins out as a snack, but I will eat them on their own.  They can be a sweet little morsel.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Ah.hell on September 28, 2018, 12:27:31 PM
I voted meh but really, somewhere between meh and gross.  I don't pick them out of food but I don't go out of my way for them  either.  The worst though is oatmeal raisin cookies.  Oatmeal cookies are the best, add raisins and there unpleasant at best.  Switch chocolate chip for raisins and even better than the best.

As a friend used to say, "Raisins, nature's candy my ass!"
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Jeremy's Sea on September 28, 2018, 01:07:14 PM
It does still confuse me why someone would pick to make oatmeal raisin cookie over any other cookie? I'll eat it if its all that's left and I'm hungry but in my cookie hierarchy it's at the bottom and may be a little mad at whoever picked or made them for not making something better.

I'm not really sure why anyone makes anything but chocolate chip cookies; but oatmeal raisin cookies can really be very good.
Oatmeal chocolate chip FTW

I love raisins, but really don't care for them in other food.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: 2397 on September 28, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
What is nature's candy?

I think the only fruits I've eaten that haven't been through some sort of cultivation are cloudberries and blueberries, and I'm not a fan of those.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Boßel on September 28, 2018, 02:25:47 PM
It does still confuse me why someone would pick to make oatmeal raisin cookie over any other cookie? I'll eat it if its all that's left and I'm hungry but in my cookie hierarchy it's at the bottom and may be a little mad at whoever picked or made them for not making something better.

I'm not really sure why anyone makes anything but chocolate chip cookies; but oatmeal raisin cookies can really be very good.
Oatmeal chocolate chip FTW

I love raisins, but really don't care for them in other food.

Oatmeal chocolate chip is my favorite.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Harry Black on September 28, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
I buy a bag of raisins every few months and throw them into my muesli for a bit of flavour.
They do go very well in a bread and butter pudding but I havent had one of those in years (must see about making one this weekend).

They are usually welcome as a way to break up the monotony of some cereal based dish.
The fantasy/history/survivalist nerd in me loves the very concept of dried fruit.

But only a serial killer would eat them on their own.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Jeremy's Sea on September 29, 2018, 10:02:07 PM
I buy a bag of raisins every few months and throw them into my muesli for a bit of flavour.
They do go very well in a bread and butter pudding but I havent had one of those in years (must see about making one this weekend).

They are usually welcome as a way to break up the monotony of some cereal based dish.
The fantasy/history/survivalist nerd in me loves the very concept of dried fruit.

But only a serial killer would eat them on their own.
Hey, meet me in an alley tonight. I have some, ummm, not raisins to share with you...
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: stretcher on October 05, 2018, 09:16:38 PM
Heck yea. Oatmeal raisin cookies are my favorite. I'll throw them in most non-sweet cereals. Menudo with raisins is delicious.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: drproximo on October 30, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
I almost never buy raisins to snack on, but I like them in other things. Both Tim Hortons and Subway have decent oatmeal raisin cookies, they're essential in a good trail mix, and raisin toast with butter is a nice treat now and then. Cinnamon raisin is one of the most popular bagel varieties at Tim's.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Ah.hell on October 30, 2018, 03:46:54 PM
My son ate a lot of raisins in his oat

meal this weekend.  A lot of them went totally undigested.  I couldn't figure out what he'd been eating until my wife noticed. 

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I had to look up menudo, I thought I knew what it was until I read:
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Heck yea. Oatmeal raisin cookies are my favorite. I'll throw them in most non-sweet cereals. Menudo with raisins is delicious.
So, I actually knew what menudo was, menudo with raisins sounds awful. 
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on October 30, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
I cannot imagine anyone not liking raisins. Like all dried fruit, they're almost pure sugar. Which is why I never buy them or have them in the house, but if they're in front of me I'll eat them and I love them. Given a choice, though, I'd have dried figs or dried apricots instead. I like most dried fruits. Sugar, yum!

Raisins in oatmeal are really good, also, but you have to put them in the boiling water first, and let it boil for a bit to soften them before adding and cooking the oats. Oatmeal raisin cookies are good also, but chocolate cookies with chocolate chips are better. But it's not fair to compare raisins to chocolate. Nothing compares to chocolate.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on October 30, 2018, 05:11:11 PM
I'm eating pre-raisins.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on October 30, 2018, 07:47:49 PM
I'm eating pre-raisins.

We call those grapes. In Spain they have HUGE grapes. And there's a tradition that on New Year's eve when the bells toll at midnight, you're supposed to eat one grape for each toll of the bell. Well, I did it, but it was hard because the grapes are so big that eating 12 of them in the time it takes for the bell to toll 12 times is a lot of grapes in a short amount of time. Raisins would be easier.

I do like grapes, though. Lots of sugar. Yum.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: SkeptiQueer on October 30, 2018, 08:21:53 PM
I do eat raisins. Got hooked on them as one of two edible fruits in an MRE. I still put them in cereal/oatmeal and sometimes jsut toss a handful down the pipe.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: moj on November 02, 2018, 12:57:16 PM
I had lunch today at a yummy Peruvian food truck. I had slow roasted pork tenderloin, mixed green salad with wild rice mixed with walnuts and raisins. I totally get why it makes sense, in theory, to add sweet to savory dishes. On paper the wild rice with raisins is great, and many people probably love it. I still just don't like them. I went all 5 year old and picked the raisins out. Having them warm definitely made it worse for me. I really don't like dried fruit, much rather have crisp than a gooey, chewy, sweet nug. blah
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on November 06, 2018, 07:39:27 AM
I'm eating pre-raisins.

We call those grapes. In Spain they have HUGE grapes. And there's a tradition that on New Year's eve when the bells toll at midnight, you're supposed to eat one grape for each toll of the bell. Well, I did it, but it was hard because the grapes are so big that eating 12 of them in the time it takes for the bell to toll 12 times is a lot of grapes in a short amount of time. Raisins would be easier.

I do like grapes, though. Lots of sugar. Yum.
I'm diabetic. I can hear my blood sugar hitting the corners in my circulatory system.*


*That's an engineering joke, btw. "When a fluid changes direction the entrained liquids and solid don't go with the flow, they impact on the piping." Normal people call this "water hammer".
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: mindme on November 06, 2018, 07:54:14 AM
I enjoy raisins. But I find they have too many calories.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on November 06, 2018, 04:13:35 PM
During my D&D game last night I ate a mix of dried cranberries, yoghurt-covered raisins and almonds. It was delish.

We killed the Demogorgon and my 15th level warlock went off for new adventures with a friendly ancient red dragon.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: John Albert on November 08, 2018, 05:02:25 PM
I love raisins.
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Post by: haudace on November 08, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Don't care for chocolate chip. Oatmeal raisin cookies are amazingly tasty!!!
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Jerry the J on November 14, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
I eat a bowl of Raisin Bran cereal almost every single morning for going on over three years now.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: swan on November 15, 2018, 05:25:46 PM
I can't stand the sugar-encrusted raisins in most raisin brans, so I used to buy bran flakes and some golden raisins to make my own. (Also better with Grape Nuts, real vanilla ice cream, by themselves, etc. Not as chewy or sticky, plus a little more flavor IMO.) The worst part is that the same weight of bran flakes was about $2 more expensive than typical raisin bran, plus there was then the cost of raisins. When I could afford it though, worth it.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on November 15, 2018, 07:28:31 PM
I eat a bowl of Raisin Bran cereal almost every single morning for going on over three years now.
11 years.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on November 15, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
Don't you get bored?
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on November 15, 2018, 08:10:59 PM
Don't you get bored?
Staples don't seem to bore. I could see 11 years of raisin bran if I had a taste for it. Which I do not.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on November 15, 2018, 08:13:09 PM
Don't you get bored?
Staples don't seem to bore. I could see 11 years of raisin bran if I had a taste for it. Which I do not.

I'm pretty sure that I'd crave a change if I ate the same meal every day for just a week. But if it works for you, then it works. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on November 15, 2018, 08:44:31 PM
Don't you get bored?
Staples don't seem to bore. I could see 11 years of raisin bran if I had a taste for it. Which I do not.

I'm pretty sure that I'd crave a change if I ate the same meal every day for just a week. But if it works for you, then it works. Simple as that.
Your microbiome is ecstatic. Mine is bored.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on November 16, 2018, 06:50:25 AM
Don't you get bored?
Food is just fuel if I'm not dining with someone.
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Post by: brilligtove on November 16, 2018, 11:20:32 PM
Toasted cinnamon raisin bagels with sharp cream cheese? Wonderful.

Toasted raisin bread with a generous helping of salty butter? I'm salivating right now.

OTOH when I was having radiation treatment and my sense of taste was limited to a bit of umami, texture, and nothing else? Raisins have 10000000% nothing to recommend them when the sweet is taken away.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on November 18, 2018, 04:26:46 PM
Don't you get bored?
Food is just fuel if I'm not dining with someone.

I refer sometimes to CHON (Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen). But I still get bored of it after eating it every day.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on November 18, 2018, 05:09:06 PM
I eat a bowl of Raisin Bran cereal almost every single morning for going on over three years now.

For some odd reason this reminded me that when I was in disciplinary segregation at FCI Sandstone, we got a bowl of Raisin Bran cereal most mornings. I wrote a poem (long forgotten) about the horrible punishment that should be imposed on the inventor of Raisin Bran, which concluded with the observation that on this day the guard must have picked the raisins out of my cereal because there were none in it. Since I am lactose intolerant, I had to eat the cereal dry, and eventually became quite sick of it. I like the raisins, but don't much care for bran flakes.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Vic333 on December 18, 2018, 09:43:15 PM
Usually just in things (cookies, snack mixes). But, I don't have a beef with raisins. 

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Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on December 19, 2018, 06:11:08 AM
Don't you get bored?
Food is just fuel if I'm not dining with someone.

I refer sometimes to CHON (Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen). But I still get bored of it after eating it every day.
I find something at least somewhat nutritious to eat when I'm alone. If I don't plan ahead I'll eat, say, a can of peas (probably heated). Get that out of the way and go back to whatever I was doing.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on December 19, 2018, 10:16:58 AM
I enjoy eating. This may be the only aspect of my character in which I’m in the majority. I think most people enjoy eating. Fortunately for me, I enjoy greens and veggies and whole grains and beans. Unfortunately for me I also enjoy chocolate and other sweets and have a very hard time moderating my consumption of them. I love raisins and other dried fruits, but never buy them because I could easily eat half a pound in a sitting. They are, after all, essentially flavored sugar.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on December 19, 2018, 10:23:47 AM
I enjoy eating. This may be the only aspect of my character in which I’m in the majority. I think most people enjoy eating. Fortunately for me, I enjoy greens and veggies and whole grains and beans. Unfortunately for me I also enjoy chocolate and other sweets and have a very hard time moderating my consumption of them. I love raisins and other dried fruits, but never buy them because I could easily eat half a pound in a sitting. They are, after all, essentially flavored sugar.
You a sweet potato man?
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on December 19, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
I enjoy eating. This may be the only aspect of my character in which I’m in the majority. I think most people enjoy eating. Fortunately for me, I enjoy greens and veggies and whole grains and beans. Unfortunately for me I also enjoy chocolate and other sweets and have a very hard time moderating my consumption of them. I love raisins and other dried fruits, but never buy them because I could easily eat half a pound in a sitting. They are, after all, essentially flavored sugar.
You a sweet potato man?

I never used to care for them, then a friend included them in a mess of roasted vegetables, and so I started roasting them. Turns out they cook deliciously in my fish cooker. Now I love them.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Jerry the J on January 11, 2019, 04:48:47 PM
I have raisin bran cereal nearly every morning for breakfast, if that counts as "eat"ing raisins
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Bill K on January 15, 2019, 03:36:06 AM
Raisins are a waste of perfectly delicious grapes left to shrivel and die. That, I call, blasphemy.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on January 15, 2019, 07:52:01 PM
I have raisin bran cereal nearly every morning for breakfast, if that counts as "eat"ing raisins

We got raisin bran nearly every morning in the disciplinary segregation unit at FCI Sandstone. I actually wrote a poem excoriating the inventor of bran flakes after the day that we got the bran flakes without any raisins. I will add that I am lactose intolerant so I ate the stuff dry. Dry bran flakes are not good.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on January 15, 2019, 08:14:47 PM
I have raisin bran cereal nearly every morning for breakfast, if that counts as "eat"ing raisins

We got raisin bran nearly every morning in the disciplinary segregation unit at FCI Sandstone. I actually wrote a poem excoriating the inventor of bran flakes after the day that we got the bran flakes without any raisins. I will add that I am lactose intolerant so I ate the stuff dry. Dry bran flakes are not good.

Were they not required to provide you with meals that you were capable of digesting? Man, that's fucked up.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on January 16, 2019, 09:43:33 AM
I have raisin bran cereal nearly every morning for breakfast, if that counts as "eat"ing raisins

We got raisin bran nearly every morning in the disciplinary segregation unit at FCI Sandstone. I actually wrote a poem excoriating the inventor of bran flakes after the day that we got the bran flakes without any raisins. I will add that I am lactose intolerant so I ate the stuff dry. Dry bran flakes are not good.

Were they not required to provide you with meals that you were capable of digesting? Man, that's fucked up.

Nope. Nor were they required to provide healthy meals. They are required (in the U.S. federal system... I know nothing of any of the state systems, each of which has its own character) to provide kosher meals to anyone who requests it, and they are required to ask if you eat pork and respect that choice, and I think they have to provide halal meals to anyone who requests that. All of these requirements were hard-won through lawsuits, probably that went all the way to the Supreme Court.

When I was in general population I ate pretty well because I could request, and was given, large helpings of vegetables. But when I was in disciplinary segregation, where I spent much of my prison time, they would not give me vegetarian meals. The guards would give the meat from my tray to another inmate, and I ate what remained. They would not give me a proper vegetarian diet. A friend of mine who was in prison also for peaceful anti-nuclear protesting, fasted for several weeks and endured threats to force-feed her before they finally gave her a vegetarian diet. But I foolishly believed the warden when he told me that he could not give me a vegetarian diet. The dry bran flakes were actually about the healthiest thing I got when I was in seg.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Beleth on January 23, 2019, 06:53:59 PM
Usually just in things (cookies, snack mixes). But, I don't have a beef with raisins. 

I've had chicken with apricots, but I've never had beef with raisins either.  :rimshot:

Also, welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Vic333 on January 23, 2019, 09:13:36 PM
Usually just in things (cookies, snack mixes). But, I don't have a beef with raisins. 

I've had chicken with apricots, but I've never had beef with raisins either.  :rimshot:

Also, welcome to the forum!
Beef with raisins is not uncommon. Quite tastey. And A1 sauce is, of course, largely sweetened tomato and raisin paste.

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Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Captain Video on January 24, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
Stupid cereal trivia

https://www.mrbreakfast.com/cereal_detail.asp?id=302

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Kellogg's Raisin Bran began using its "two scoops of raisins in every box" slogan in the late 1960's. According to The Science Creative Quarterly, a 15 ounce box of Kellogg's Raisin Bran contains between 201 and 241 raisins, which leads us to the conclusion that a scoop contains roughly 100 to 120 raisins sugar coated rat turds.

I fixed the quote
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on January 24, 2019, 09:16:52 PM
Do sultanas even exist in America? Or is raisin the American word for sultana? I thought they were different things. I was brought up eating sultanas, not raisins.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on January 24, 2019, 10:04:20 PM
Do sultanas even exist in America? Or is raisin the American word for sultana? I thought they were different things. I was brought up eating sultanas, not raisins.

I’ve never heard of sultanas, so I have no idea if they’re the same thing. Raisins are dried grapes. Most dried fruit is mostly sugar, and raisins are no exception, so anyone who loves sugar is very likely to like them.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on January 24, 2019, 10:30:03 PM
Do sultanas even exist in America? Or is raisin the American word for sultana? I thought they were different things. I was brought up eating sultanas, not raisins.

I’ve never heard of sultanas, so I have no idea if they’re the same thing. Raisins are dried grapes. Most dried fruit is mostly sugar, and raisins are no exception, so anyone who loves sugar is very likely to like them.

Hm. Wikipedia considers them the same, but notes that in Australia, a "raisin" is a dark-coloured dried grape, while a "sultana" is a gold-coloured dried grape. Further investigation suggests that there is a "sultana grape" which is native to the Middle East, and that raisins made from that variety of grape are called sultanas in Australia, New Zealand and the UK.

Okay. So it seems that in America, "raisin" refers to all dried grapes, but that we have two different kinds of dried grapes - raisins, which are dark, and sultanas, which are light. Do you have the gold-coloured raisins?
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Captain Video on January 24, 2019, 11:00:44 PM
Do sultanas even exist in America? Or is raisin the American word for sultana? I thought they were different things. I was brought up eating sultanas, not raisins.

I’ve never heard of sultanas, so I have no idea if they’re the same thing. Raisins are dried grapes. Most dried fruit is mostly sugar, and raisins are no exception, so anyone who loves sugar is very likely to like them.

Hm. Wikipedia considers them the same, but notes that in Australia, a "raisin" is a dark-coloured dried grape, while a "sultana" is a gold-coloured dried grape. Further investigation suggests that there is a "sultana grape" which is native to the Middle East, and that raisins made from that variety of grape are called sultanas in Australia, New Zealand and the UK.

Okay. So it seems that in America, "raisin" refers to all dried grapes, but that we have two different kinds of dried grapes - raisins, which are dark, and sultanas, which are light. Do you have the gold-coloured raisins?

Rat turds

(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_755762a9-cba5-4fb1-a54c-3c7c116e0139?wid=488&hei=488&fmt=pjpeg)

Golden rat turds

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Sultana rat turds

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Two scoops (201 - 241) of sugar coated rat turds

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Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on January 24, 2019, 11:57:42 PM
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Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on January 25, 2019, 06:46:58 AM
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Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on January 25, 2019, 09:16:14 AM
Growing up I ate both light and dark raisins. Both were called raisins. Much more recently I’ve encountered craisins, which I believe are dried cranberries and taste kind of like raisins, though I prefer raisins, which I think are sweeter.

I’ve never tasted a rat turd, or smelled one for that matter, but my own turds don’t smell anything like raisins, and since smell is a large part of taste, I’m going to conclude that they are nothing alike and that Captain Video has been misled as to any similarity whatsoever between rat turds and raisins. They do have a similar appearance, but as we all know, appearances can be misleading and it’s often a mistake to judge by them.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Captain Video on January 26, 2019, 01:58:56 AM
Growing up I ate both light and dark raisins. Both were called raisins. Much more recently I’ve encountered craisins, which I believe are dried cranberries and taste kind of like raisins, though I prefer raisins, which I think are sweeter.

I’ve never tasted a rat turd, or smelled one for that matter, but my own turds don’t smell anything like raisins, and since smell is a large part of taste, I’m going to conclude that they are nothing alike and that Captain Video has been misled as to any similarity whatsoever between rat turds and raisins. They do have a similar appearance, but as we all know, appearances can be misleading and it’s often a mistake to judge by them.

By that logic you mite consider eating a dried rat turd. They don't smell, appearances can be misleading and it’s often a mistake to judge by them.  :P  (would that be vegetarian if the rat also only eats vegetarian?).

Honestly its the texture I cant stand and they look like little turds or worse, scabs. As a ground up flavoring for a sauce they can taste pretty good. I feel the same about uncooked onions and anchovies but for some reason raisins disgust me. Probably because they are always fucking up a perfectly good rice pudding, bread pudding or cookie. 

I can deal with craisins, usually when cooked with something savory like green beans, they look similar on the outside but the inside is different. Raisins have a gritty texture.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on January 26, 2019, 09:48:07 AM
Growing up I ate both light and dark raisins. Both were called raisins. Much more recently I’ve encountered craisins, which I believe are dried cranberries and taste kind of like raisins, though I prefer raisins, which I think are sweeter.

I’ve never tasted a rat turd, or smelled one for that matter, but my own turds don’t smell anything like raisins, and since smell is a large part of taste, I’m going to conclude that they are nothing alike and that Captain Video has been misled as to any similarity whatsoever between rat turds and raisins. They do have a similar appearance, but as we all know, appearances can be misleading and it’s often a mistake to judge by them.

By that logic you mite consider eating a dried rat turd. They don't smell, appearances can be misleading and it’s often a mistake to judge by them.  :P  (would that be vegetarian if the rat also only eats vegetarian?).

Honestly its the texture I cant stand and they look like little turds or worse, scabs. As a ground up flavoring for a sauce they can taste pretty good. I feel the same about uncooked onions and anchovies but for some reason raisins disgust me. Probably because they are always fucking up a perfectly good rice pudding, bread pudding or cookie. 

I can deal with craisins, usually when cooked with something savory like green beans, they look similar on the outside but the inside is different. Raisins have a gritty texture.

I hiked with a guide who carried those candies made to look like animal poop. She would bend down and pretend to pick something up and make a big production out of studying it and smelling it before eating it and pronouncing “Yep. Definitely bear.” Or some other animal.

I’m sufficiently confident that rat turds would not taste good, or be sanitary, that I’ll pass on your advice to try them. And while I don’t buy raisins because of the excessive amount of sugar in them, I’ll happily eat them when offered.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on January 28, 2019, 08:44:46 PM
Rat turds have a more-or-less smooth surface. Raisins are wrinkled, and slightly translucent, and are also larger and a different shape.

Rasins and rat turds look absolutely nothing like each other.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Captain Video on January 28, 2019, 08:49:39 PM
Rat turds have a more-or-less smooth surface. Raisins are wrinkled, and slightly translucent, and are also larger and a different shape.

Rasins and rat turds look absolutely nothing like each other.

You must have small rats, also you have to sit them out in the sun for a few days before they will wrinkle.   ;D



Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on January 28, 2019, 08:55:27 PM
You must have small rats, also you have to sit them out in the sun for a few days before they will wrinkle.   ;D

And I think you are so patently dishonest that you would pass off your own decades old boogers as sun dried rat turds.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Captain Video on January 28, 2019, 08:56:05 PM
even the pros think so

http://wildlifemanagementpro.org/animal-control/rodents/rat-poop-vs-mouse-poop/

edit: I found plenty more, I feel vindicated and not at all dishonest.   >:D

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Rat droppings will usually appear about 1/2"-3/4" in length, and resemble raisins. It may be diifcult to eat raisins after finding rat feces in your home

http://www.atticpestauthority.com/pest-indentification-by-droppings/


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Visually, rat droppings can be compared to a raisin. This makes mice poop easier to identify. So, what does rat poop look like? Well, there are different kinds of rats but you can easily identify them by looking for these things:

https://www.moxieservices.com/blog/top-5-signs-there-might-be-rodents-in-your-home/

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Rodent droppings resemble black rice or small raisins

Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: arthwollipot on January 28, 2019, 10:39:53 PM
They're wrong. Raisins are wrinkly, rat droppings are not. I'll give you a pass on the size, but rat droppings are more cylindrical while raisins are flat discs.

I'm not suggesting you're being dishonest, but if you think rat droppings look like raisins, then either you haven't taken a good look at rat droppings, or you haven't taken a good look at raisins. Either of which would be forgivable, really.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on January 29, 2019, 11:11:33 AM
Let’s be fair. Captain Video just doesn’t like raisins, and from that perspective it’s a fun conceit to compare them to something that everyone finds disgusting. I take his comparison of raisins to rat turds as metaphor, not literalism. The extremely vague similarity gives rise to a bit of toilet poetry.
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: Billzbub on January 29, 2019, 12:12:46 PM
Let’s be fair. Captain Video just doesn’t like raisins, and from that perspective it’s a fun conceit to compare them to something that everyone finds disgusting. I take his comparison of raisins to rat turds as metaphor, not literalism. The extremely vague similarity gives rise to a bit of toilet poetry.

We're getting a little off topic with the rat turds.  Shouldn't we be using our time more constructively to figure out which other kind of animal turd raisins look like?  Ever seen a rabbit turd?
Title: Re: Do you eat raisins, on purpose?
Post by: daniel1948 on January 29, 2019, 02:00:50 PM
Let’s be fair. Captain Video just doesn’t like raisins, and from that perspective it’s a fun conceit to compare them to something that everyone finds disgusting. I take his comparison of raisins to rat turds as metaphor, not literalism. The extremely vague similarity gives rise to a bit of toilet poetry.

We're getting a little off topic with the rat turds.  Shouldn't we be using our time more constructively to figure out which other kind of animal turd raisins look like?  Ever seen a rabbit turd?

I could very well be mistaken, but I think that rabbit turds look much more like raisins than rat turds do. There was a very old joke about raisins and rabbit turds with someone giving someone else “raisins” and which ended with the punch line “My rabbit died.” But it’s much more satisfying to compare the food that you hate with the poop of a disgusting rat than with the poop of a cute little bunny.