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Title: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on April 28, 2019, 01:30:23 PM
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For me, I think of the country first and foremost.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Calinthalus on April 28, 2019, 02:09:53 PM
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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on April 28, 2019, 02:16:42 PM
Other: America's urban-rural divide.

In Georgia, you've got everything from Atlanta to US Army Cyber Command to hook-worm infested hinterlands.

edit: I feel like Georgia's probably top 10 for exemplifying the extreme lows and extreme highs present in the US.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on April 28, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
I immediately think of Grits, Pecan pie, boiled peanuts and peaches.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: 2397 on April 28, 2019, 02:42:40 PM
Russian meddling.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on April 28, 2019, 03:39:33 PM
♫Those Georgia girls
really knock me out,
They are the cat's meow.♫
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: John Albert on April 28, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
Depends on the context.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on April 28, 2019, 05:27:47 PM
Dzhugashvili.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: The Latinist on April 28, 2019, 05:57:40 PM
♫Those Georgia girls
really knock me out,
They are the cat's meow.♫

Uh...is that supposed to be “Back in the U.S.S.R.”?
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: John Albert on April 28, 2019, 06:04:46 PM
Unfortunately, I don't know anybody from the Eurasian country of Georgia. Fortunately, I have personal connections to the US state of Georgia, in the form of several friends and family members.

So when I hear "Georgia" I usually think of a place with gracious, good humored people, comfort food, and unusually charming music.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: daniel1948 on April 28, 2019, 09:49:48 PM
Calinthalus beat me to it. I'm not a fan of Willie Nelson and I'd have picked any other performer, but when I hear the word Georgia I think, Just an old sweet song keeps Georgia on my mind.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: CarbShark on April 28, 2019, 10:26:56 PM
I think Braves. They used to be really something.

And Ted Turner. He used to be really something.


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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: PANTS! on April 28, 2019, 10:36:27 PM
REM
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on April 28, 2019, 10:43:10 PM
Fiddle contests.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on April 28, 2019, 11:13:14 PM
and unusually charming music.

you mean Trap  ???

Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: John Albert on April 29, 2019, 12:35:53 AM
and unusually charming music.

you mean Trap  ???

Some trap music is OK, but I was thinking more along the lines of bluegrass, high lonesome vocals, Piedmont blues, the Southeastern indie rock of the 1980s and '90s, and artists like Ray Charles, James Brown, Little Richard, Otis Redding, The B-52's, R.E.M., Vic Chesnutt, Five Eight, Elf Power, the Jack-O-Nuts and The BBQ Killers, to name a few...
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on April 29, 2019, 12:45:00 AM
I'd go out on a limb here and saying that every American reading this thread - and most of the rest of us who have been brought up on a steady diet of American culture - would bring to mind the American state first. Europeans, particularly Eastern Europeans and people who watch Eurovision are probably the most likely to think of the Caucasian ex-Soviet country first.

Since this forum is dominated by Americans, it's no surprise that most people responding to the poll have selected the American state.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: bachfiend on April 29, 2019, 01:04:16 AM
I'd go out on a limb here and saying that every American reading this thread - and most of the rest of us who have been brought up on a steady diet of American culture - would bring to mind the American state first. Europeans, particularly Eastern Europeans and people who watch Eurovision are probably the most likely to think of the Caucasian ex-Soviet country first.

Since this forum is dominated by Americans, it's no surprise that most people responding to the poll have selected the American state.

I thought first of the Caucasian country, since it’s a much more historically important geographical entity.  The only thing I can think of regarding the American state is Sherman’s March to the Sea (and that was 19th century).  The European Georgia has as one of its previous natives one Joseph Stalin for example.  Who managed to out-Hitler Hitler for barbarity.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on April 29, 2019, 01:32:30 AM
and unusually charming music.

you mean Trap  ???

Some trap music is OK, but I was thinking more along the lines of bluegrass, high lonesome vocals, Piedmont blues, the Southeastern indie rock of the 1980s and '90s, and artists like Ray Charles, James Brown, Little Richard, Otis Redding, The B-52's, R.E.M., Vic Chesnutt, Five Eight, Elf Power, the Jack-O-Nuts, The BBQ Killers, and Motherfucker to name a few...

Georgia has put put a ton of great music in just about every genre. Currently it dominates the hip hop and pop charts and its not the first time. 

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Growing up in the north east and even later in Florida I had a negative view of Georgia until I lived here and found out what it was really like.

I could not tell you one thing about the other Georgia, I bet the BBQ sucks. Can anyone say anything cool about that Georgia?

I can understand why living in Europe you would think of Eurasia Georgia first. 

A few months ago I visited in both Athens and Rome, I didn't think of Italy or Greece at all. I do giggle a little when visiting Cumming.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Tassie Dave on April 29, 2019, 03:13:44 AM
I thought of the US state.

Though the only things I know about Georgia are:

It's where the US Masters is held,
That is where the infamous "Toilet Olympics" was held (That is a Roy and HG reference that I doubt anyone outside Australia will get  ;) )
It's where "The Walking Dead" was based (Until they moved north)
It has the busiest airport in the world.
It's where "Gone with the Wind" was set.

That's 5 more things than I know about the country of Georgia  ;)
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on April 29, 2019, 03:20:07 AM
I could not tell you one thing about the other Georgia, I bet the BBQ sucks. Can anyone say anything cool about that Georgia?

Khorumi is pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEijCIw2QaU
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: fuzzyMarmot on April 29, 2019, 04:03:12 AM
Historically great hip-hop from the U.S. State:
Andre 3000, Big Boi, T.I., Donald Glover, Jeezy, Ludacris, so many more.

Also some world-class universities (UGA, Georgia Tech, Spelman, Emory, Morehouse, and many more).
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Rai on April 29, 2019, 04:37:05 AM
Annoying my Georgian (the country) friend/colleauge with a Southern accent and frequent references to moonshine, banjos, alligators and Sherman.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on April 29, 2019, 06:35:14 AM
♫Those Georgia girls
really knock me out,
They are the cat's meow.♫

Uh...is that supposed to be “Back in the U.S.S.R.”?
Working from memory. Gomenasai.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: mindme on April 29, 2019, 08:24:21 AM
A place you don't want to be gay or trying to collect benefits if you're in a same sex marriage.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: CarbShark on April 29, 2019, 10:31:50 AM
A place you don't want to be gay or trying to collect benefits if you're in a same sex marriage.
Does that apply to both?


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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: daniel1948 on April 29, 2019, 11:13:51 AM
I cannot shake the impressions from my youth: Racism, lynchings, the murder of civil rights workers, Bull Connor (yes, I conflate Georgia with Alabama), etc. Of course racism was just as vicious in the north, but we didn't realize that until later. And of course Georgia is a very different place now than it was then. But just as I'll never forget the girl I was head over heels in love with at the age of 15, Georgia will probably always remain synonymous in my mind with the worst that humanity has to offer, even though I know I'm being unfair. I do like a southern accent, almost as much as a madrileño accent in Spanish.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: gebobs on April 29, 2019, 11:55:55 AM
REM

Mike Stipe is a neighbor of mine in Athens, just a few doors down. I work here during the week and go back to Atlanta Thursday afternoon.

Funny anecdote...a friend was coming to visit with her two sons. The eldest at the time was about 8, very intelligent, Asperger's. His interest then was flags. On the way home from the airport, we pointed to the state capitol. "Look, there's the flag of Georgia." He was a bit disappointed. "That's just the state, not the country Georgia."

He's an interesting young man. Has met Kim Jong Un a few times and even introduced him to Dennis Rodman. I may have told that story here before. He was also in Libya when Kaddaffi went down. Lunched with the deposed king of Rwanda in DC. Rubbed elbows with the rebel leaders in one of the Congos. Just married a gal from Vietnam.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Friendly Angel on April 29, 2019, 01:17:19 PM
I thought of Ray Charles too.  At first I thought I was just being cute because I knew what the question was really asking, but then I realized I read the word Georgia in the title with Ray's singing voice in my head.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on April 29, 2019, 01:17:37 PM
I'd go out on a limb here and saying that every American reading this thread - and most of the rest of us who have been brought up on a steady diet of American culture - would bring to mind the American state first. Europeans, particularly Eastern Europeans and people who watch Eurovision are probably the most likely to think of the Caucasian ex-Soviet country first.

Since this forum is dominated by Americans, it's no surprise that most people responding to the poll have selected the American state.

You have a point, but I think that for non-Americans, it is not quite that simple.

At least over here, the most well-known, or at least the most fancy, American states I would think are (in no particular order) California, New York, and Florida. Minnesota is also well-known to a lesser extent because many Swedes emigrated there back in the days. Georgia is not considered fancy or cool or hip, and unlike Minnesota is has no historical connection to Sweden. It is not really a state to which many people (from here) go on vacation or want to live in.

There might not be any significant group of Americans of Australian descent, but aren't some American states more well-known and considered more hip than others among Australians?
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Calinthalus on April 29, 2019, 01:31:53 PM
I somehow always assume people in Europe know about the state I live in.  I know they have KFC in large parts of the continent.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: amysrevenge on April 29, 2019, 02:37:21 PM
I somehow always assume people in Europe know about the state I live in.  I know they have KFC in large parts of the continent.

Haha literally the letterboard sign at the nearest KFC to me reads "THE C IS FOR CHICKEN".  No word on the K or the F yet.

(Also, humourously, due to very strict language laws, that particular establishment in Quebec (at least last time I was there) is called PFK and not KFC.  But the K is still the same as far as I know.  It is also called PFK in my household, by popular demand of me.)
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Calinthalus on April 29, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
I somehow always assume people in Europe know about the state I live in.  I know they have KFC in large parts of the continent.

Haha literally the letterboard sign at the nearest KFC to me reads "THE C IS FOR CHICKEN".  No word on the K or the F yet.

(Also, humourously, due to very strict language laws, that particular establishment in Quebec (at least last time I was there) is called PFK and not KFC.  But the K is still the same as far as I know.  It is also called PFK in my household, by popular demand of me.)
That's funny as hell.  I knew the french word for Chicken, but not fried (although I should have).  In France, it's still called KFC, which makes Quebec more French than France :)



Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Ah.hell on April 29, 2019, 02:54:38 PM
I'd go out on a limb here and saying that every American reading this thread - and most of the rest of us who have been brought up on a steady diet of American culture - would bring to mind the American state first. Europeans, particularly Eastern Europeans and people who watch Eurovision are probably the most likely to think of the Caucasian ex-Soviet country first.

Since this forum is dominated by Americans, it's no surprise that most people responding to the poll have selected the American state.

You have a point, but I think that for non-Americans, it is not quite that simple.

At least over here, the most well-known, or at least the most fancy, American states I would think are (in no particular order) California, New York, and Florida. Minnesota is also well-known to a lesser extent because many Swedes emigrated there back in the days. Georgia is not considered fancy or cool or hip, and unlike Minnesota is has no historical connection to Sweden. It is not really a state to which many people (from here) go on vacation or want to live in.

There might not be any significant group of Americans of Australian descent, but aren't some American states more well-known and considered more hip than others among Australians?
You should add the State of Washington to your list, they also got a lot of Scandinavian immigrants and are home to such things as Swedish Hospitals and the Ballard(Seattle) Nordic Museum. 

https://nordicmuseum.org/
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Tassie Dave on April 29, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
There might not be any significant group of Americans of Australian descent, but aren't some American states more well-known and considered more hip than others among Australians?

Most Australians would only really know a few states well. Mostly California, Hawaii and 1 or 2 others.

They would be more aware of individual cities like  New York, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Las Vegas, Miami etc

Most of us couldn't tell you anything about the smaller states. i.e Delaware. I know it exists and that's about it  ;)

Then again how many Americans could tell you anything about individual Australian states, UK counties, French provinces etc  ;)


Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: The Latinist on April 29, 2019, 04:27:49 PM
Frit.  As in pommes frites.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Calinthalus on April 29, 2019, 04:37:59 PM
Yeah, when I saw the PFK I figured out the chicken part but couldn't come up with the F.  Once I googled it, I remembered pommes frites and could have smacked myself.  It's not like I've taken a French class, but I have studied a little bit of cooking, which requires a good bit of French.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: seamas on April 29, 2019, 04:59:42 PM
I thought of Ray Charles too.  At first I thought I was just being cute because I knew what the question was really asking, but then I realized I read the word Georgia in the title with Ray's singing voice in my head.

Same here.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: seamas on April 29, 2019, 05:03:48 PM
I'd go out on a limb here and saying that every American reading this thread - and most of the rest of us who have been brought up on a steady diet of American culture - would bring to mind the American state first. Europeans, particularly Eastern Europeans and people who watch Eurovision are probably the most likely to think of the Caucasian ex-Soviet country first.

Since this forum is dominated by Americans, it's no surprise that most people responding to the poll have selected the American state.

You have a point, but I think that for non-Americans, it is not quite that simple.

At least over here, the most well-known, or at least the most fancy, American states I would think are (in no particular order) California, New York, and Florida. Minnesota is also well-known to a lesser extent because many Swedes emigrated there back in the days. Georgia is not considered fancy or cool or hip, and unlike Minnesota is has no historical connection to Sweden. It is not really a state to which many people (from here) go on vacation or want to live in.

There might not be any significant group of Americans of Australian descent, but aren't some American states more well-known and considered more hip than others among Australians?

Funny you mention New York, as I don't know how many times I have met people from other countries (and even some fellow Americans) who have no idea that New York is a state. When you tell someone you are from New York, they usually think the city.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Friendly Angel on April 29, 2019, 05:12:02 PM

Then again how many Americans could tell you anything about individual Australian states, UK counties, French provinces etc  ;)

I had to learn Australian states and Canadian provinces in elementary school... but I could only get about half of them on a quiz now... so it's my fault, not America's.

But there are no really great songs about Ontario or Queensland.  Or Delaware or Connecticut for that matter... that's about all that Georgia has going for it.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: amysrevenge on April 29, 2019, 05:18:23 PM
But there are no really great songs about Ontario

You hush your mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_8rg0DQuWs
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: 2397 on April 29, 2019, 05:33:31 PM
Funny you mention New York, as I don't know how many times I have met people from other countries (and even some fellow Americans) who have no idea that New York is a state. When you tell someone you are from New York, they usually think the city.

Is "New York, New York" in the Frank Sinatra song like "Houston, Texas", or would it have had to be "New York City, New York" to be a proper reference?
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: xenu on April 29, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: PANTS! on April 29, 2019, 07:07:58 PM
Funny you mention New York, as I don't know how many times I have met people from other countries (and even some fellow Americans) who have no idea that New York is a state. When you tell someone you are from New York, they usually think the city.

Is "New York, New York" in the Frank Sinatra song like "Houston, Texas", or would it have had to be "New York City, New York" to be a proper reference?

"New York, New York"  is a complete reference.  One might use NYC or Mew York State for that matter if you thought there might be confusion.  And of course if you live outside of NYS, then NYS is also called upstate New York.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: heyalison on April 29, 2019, 10:06:59 PM
But there are no really great songs about Ontario

You hush your mouth.

(edited out link to prevent it from infecting more brains)

Damn you, I didn't even press play and it's still bored itself into my brain.

A place to something, a place to grow, Ontariariario.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: benbradley on April 29, 2019, 10:46:01 PM
I was born here (in the US State of Georgia, specifically in Atlanta) and lived almost all my life (so far) here. Probably the first thing I think of that "we" are famous for is Coca-Cola. There's been a huge amount of money given to colleges (especially Emory), arts centers and such in Atlanta from Coca-Cola owners and executives over the last century.

A more recent startup (circa 1980, and I recall being in one of the original stores back then) is The Home Depot, and it got big enough that one of the owners bought the Atlanta Falcons. I found it amusing when I was on Long Island and saw the Home Depot and on the building was a tagline something like "New York's Home Improvement Store." Nah - it's GEORGIA's Home Improvement Store, and it was that before New York ever heard of it.

One can't mention KFC without reference to the Big Chicken. It was renovated in the last couple years, and has a new sign out front that now says "The Big Chicken," which is totally redundant, because it's the only KFC, or likely any restaurant, that looks like a huge triangular chicken.

Musically, many have already been mentioned, there's also Allman Brothers, The Dixie Dregs (later just "The Dregs"), and Mother's Finest which didn't get a lot of fame in the US but apparently were very successful touring Europe.

Ray Charles (one of the first songs I remember on the radio was "Hit The Road, Jack") got to perform "Georgia On My Mind" for the Georgia Legislature, and shortly afterward it was signed into law as the Official Song of Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaFhe-6yrmI

As one might expect in the Southeast USA, there's definitely a big culture difference between the metro Atlanta area and the rural areas. When the Supreme Court ruled same-sex marriage legal, the "rebel" (Confederate battle) flags came out on many cars and especially pickup trucks in rural areas and small towns, with writings on windows such as "Fight to Fly the Flag." I didn't notice any change in Atlanta, except for perhaps more rainbow flags.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on April 29, 2019, 11:14:40 PM
I'd go out on a limb here and saying that every American reading this thread - and most of the rest of us who have been brought up on a steady diet of American culture - would bring to mind the American state first. Europeans, particularly Eastern Europeans and people who watch Eurovision are probably the most likely to think of the Caucasian ex-Soviet country first.

Since this forum is dominated by Americans, it's no surprise that most people responding to the poll have selected the American state.

You have a point, but I think that for non-Americans, it is not quite that simple.

At least over here, the most well-known, or at least the most fancy, American states I would think are (in no particular order) California, New York, and Florida. Minnesota is also well-known to a lesser extent because many Swedes emigrated there back in the days. Georgia is not considered fancy or cool or hip, and unlike Minnesota is has no historical connection to Sweden. It is not really a state to which many people (from here) go on vacation or want to live in.

There might not be any significant group of Americans of Australian descent, but aren't some American states more well-known and considered more hip than others among Australians?

I consider myself to be pretty well-informed about America, as are most of the people I know, but I'm not exactly "average" Australian. The "average" Australian would only know as much about America as is on the movies and TV shows that today are our staple diet (I refer to it as American cultural imperialism). So I'd say that I could name and correctly locate more American states than most of the people in the country.

And I'd certainly consider the average Australian more informed about America than the average American is about Australia. How many American do you think can name Australia's capital city, for example? The name of the current Prime Minister? What it means when an Australian says "bonza!"?

Sorry, I just realised that I was on a bit of a rant there.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Tassie Dave on April 30, 2019, 03:09:03 AM
And I'd certainly consider the average Australian more informed about America than the average American is about Australia. How many American do you think can name Australia's capital city, for example? The name of the current Prime Minister? What it means when an Australian says "bonza!"?

Waste of time learning that as we are getting a new one in 22 days  ;)
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on April 30, 2019, 03:22:17 AM
And I'd certainly consider the average Australian more informed about America than the average American is about Australia. How many American do you think can name Australia's capital city, for example? The name of the current Prime Minister? What it means when an Australian says "bonza!"?

Waste of time learning that as we are getting a new one in 22 days  ;)

And they won't know the name of that one, either. The average American doesn't even know or care that we're having an election, let alone that our electoral system beats the crap out of theirs.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Tassie Dave on April 30, 2019, 04:15:12 AM
Waste of time learning that as we are getting a new one in 22 days  ;)

and by 22 days I mean 18 days  ;) It's been a long day  ;D Don't know where I got 22 days from  ???

The average American doesn't even know or care that we're having an election, let alone that our electoral system beats the crap out of theirs.

To be fair, most people outside Australia don't know, or care, we are having an election. There is no reason for them to care.

I agree our electoral system is superior, but at least they don't have a monarch. I want that gone before I die. That should end on the death of QEII.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on April 30, 2019, 04:28:27 AM
I agree our electoral system is superior, but at least they don't have a monarch. I want that gone before I die. That should end on the death of QEII.

Yeah, but it won't. It'll be a long, slow process. I think it's inevitable, but it won't be in our lifetimes.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: mindme on April 30, 2019, 09:27:46 AM
In Canada to jettison the monarch would mean we have to re-write our constitution. The last couple times we tried that it was a complete fuck up. In Canada the moment you open up constitutional change every province is going to start to ask for all kinds of exceptions and new powers.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: seamas on April 30, 2019, 11:09:28 AM
Funny you mention New York, as I don't know how many times I have met people from other countries (and even some fellow Americans) who have no idea that New York is a state. When you tell someone you are from New York, they usually think the city.

Is "New York, New York" in the Frank Sinatra song like "Houston, Texas", or would it have had to be "New York City, New York" to be a proper reference?

I don't know about proper, as it would depend on whose ears it is falling on, but I imagine just about everyone will recognize it referring to the city, though those from near the city will year it as "New York (city), New York (State)" and people from other places might hear it as just an artistic repetition like "Chicago, Chicago".
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: seamas on April 30, 2019, 11:12:10 AM

"New York, New York"  is a complete reference.  One might use NYC or Mew York State for that matter if you thought there might be confusion.  And of course if you live outside of NYS, then NYS is also called upstate New York.

Well, don't forget Long Island!
Speaking of, being from Long Island I, like many Long Islanders would refer to anything north of the Bronx as "upstate". This brought laughs from people in college when I refereed to the mid-Hudson valley as "upstate".
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: The Latinist on April 30, 2019, 11:18:59 AM
New York is the full name of the state and of the county which is coterminous with the borough of Manhattan. I believe the full name of the city is actually the City of New York, but New York City and simply New York are perfectly acceptable usages.

I have to confess, I've always assumed that both 'New York's in the song lyrics referred to the city, and that it was merely repetition for effect.  Indeed, I would be very surprised if anyone felt the need to specify that the place meant wasn't, say, New York, Iowa.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: heyalison on April 30, 2019, 11:23:57 AM
*Other  ;)

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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: PANTS! on April 30, 2019, 11:28:09 AM
Waste of time learning that as we are getting a new one in 22 days  ;)

and by 22 days I mean 18 days  ;) It's been a long day  ;D Don't know where I got 22 days from  ???

The average American doesn't even know or care that we're having an election, let alone that our electoral system beats the crap out of theirs.

To be fair, most people outside Australia don't know, or care, we are having an election. There is no reason for them to care.

I agree our electoral system is superior, but at least they don't have a monarch. I want that gone before I die. That should end on the death of QEII.

You folks voted to keep her them, didn't you?
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: daniel1948 on April 30, 2019, 11:44:17 AM
I always thought that when people say "New York, New York" the meaning was "New York [City], [State of] New York. I've seen it abbreviated as "NY, NY." I never gave any thought to the Frank Sinatra song because I've never liked Sinatra. But I could see his meaning going either way.

On Australia, I can name four Australian cities: Brisbane, Mackay, Sydney, and Perth. (I know the second because it was the terminus of a two-week trip I took there, and the fourth because it was the most distant point I ever contacted on ham radio.) I cannot name a single Australian politician and only one famous person (Steve Irwin), and I know only two things about the Australian political system: It is a parliamentary system, and its electoral system is better than ours here in the U.S. because any electoral system that actually makes any effort whatsoever to appear honest is better than ours.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: PANTS! on April 30, 2019, 12:13:33 PM
I always thought that when people say "New York, New York" the meaning was "New York [City], [State of] New York. I've seen it abbreviated as "NY, NY." I never gave any thought to the Frank Sinatra song because I've never liked Sinatra. But I could see his meaning going either way.

On Australia, I can name four Australian cities: Brisbane, Mackay, Sydney, and Perth. (I know the second because it was the terminus of a two-week trip I took there, and the fourth because it was the most distant point I ever contacted on ham radio.) I cannot name a single Australian politician and only one famous person (Steve Irwin), and I know only two things about the Australian political system: It is a parliamentary system, and its electoral system is better than ours here in the U.S. because any electoral system that actually makes any effort whatsoever to appear honest is better than ours.

I know some PMs - Like Julia Gillard (she is an atheist), John Howard (he was there forever), Malcolm Fraser & Bob Hawke (they were PMs when I lived there), Tony Abbot, and Malcolm Turnbull.    And some dude who was there then he wasn't then he was again.  But to be fair, y'all now flip through PMs faster than a professional poker dealer goes through a deck of cards.

Can't say nothing about geography, since I literally was in Australians schools when that was the subject.  It wouldn't be fair.  But if you want another town name that is not easy to forget - how about Wagga Wagga, New South Wales.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: wastrel on April 30, 2019, 01:26:54 PM
I think of Georgia Hardstark from the "My Favorite Murder" podcast.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: moj on April 30, 2019, 02:35:58 PM
That you don't see Georgia used as a ladies name much any more

Midnight train to ...

The show Atlanta

That some people think Atlanta is becoming cool but that seems wrong.

it goes on like this and would take awhile for the country of Georgia to register. If I was in the area might check it out but its pretty far down on my list of regions to vacation. I don't have a lot of leave and just a bunch of other places I'd like to check out first.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Ah.hell on April 30, 2019, 02:58:49 PM
how about Wagga Wagga, New South Wales.
Sister City to Walla Walla, Washington I assume. 
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Friendly Angel on April 30, 2019, 03:21:53 PM
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In their native tongue, Georgians refer to themselves as the Kartveli and to their country as Sakartvelo. But the Kartveli have for many centuries been associated with George, the Roman soldier and Christian martyr.

The Arabs, Ottomans, and Persians—who ruled over the country at various times until the Russians took control in 1801—chose to name Sakartvelo after its beloved patron saint, whose image dotted the art and architecture of the region.


The American Georgia, on the other hand, was named after King George II of England, who granted the state its charter in 1732.



That you don't see Georgia used as a ladies name much any more

Midnight train to ...

Don't see the name Gladys much anymore either.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Tassie Dave on April 30, 2019, 03:56:55 PM
Waste of time learning that as we are getting a new one in 22 days  ;)

and by 22 days I mean 18 days  ;) It's been a long day  ;D Don't know where I got 22 days from  ???

The average American doesn't even know or care that we're having an election, let alone that our electoral system beats the crap out of theirs.

To be fair, most people outside Australia don't know, or care, we are having an election. There is no reason for them to care.

I agree our electoral system is superior, but at least they don't have a monarch. I want that gone before I die. That should end on the death of QEII.

You folks voted to keep her them, didn't you?

Yes, but it was a botched process. Deliberately undermined by our then monarchist PM John Howard.

Before the Constitutional Convention (in 1998) that was held to work out the finer points of the referendum the polls were showing that Australia would vote for a Republic (By a small margin)

At the Convention most people wanted to vote on a model where the people voted for our President. Which would be an Irish model President (No real power with the same powers as our Governor-General) It was decide an American style president was a really bad idea.

John Howard (PM) used his power to overturn the preferred model and only gave the option of the Australian Parliament choosing a President. This pushed a lot of pro-republic supporters to vote NO until we got a model where the people got to decide who our President would be.

I still voted YES for the republic as I thought get the monarchy gone and fix the Presidential model when Labor got back into power.

I do think I will see a republic in my lifetime. No-one wants King Charles 3 and Queen Camilla.

The worst thing that could happen for republicans, is for Charles to die before the Queen, and William to be the next King. He is hugely popular here.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on April 30, 2019, 07:54:02 PM

"New York, New York"  is a complete reference.  One might use NYC or Mew York State for that matter if you thought there might be confusion.  And of course if you live outside of NYS, then NYS is also called upstate New York.

Well, don't forget Long Island!
Speaking of, being from Long Island I, like many Long Islanders would refer to anything north of the Bronx as "upstate". This brought laughs from people in college when I refereed to the mid-Hudson valley as "upstate".
Saw a NYC guy wearing a t-shirt that said:
"The Far East is China.
The Middle East in Iraq/Iran.
The Near East is Long Island."
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Ah.hell on May 01, 2019, 09:24:22 AM
Funny you mention New York, as I don't know how many times I have met people from other countries (and even some fellow Americans) who have no idea that New York is a state. When you tell someone you are from New York, they usually think the city.
High probably guess regardless.  NYC, pop 8million  NYS, pop 20million, roughly. 

I'm from California, I can't count the number of times I was asked if I surfed.  Nope, I have picked fruit though.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: The Latinist on May 01, 2019, 10:26:40 AM
I'm from Vermont, orginally.  I lost track of the number of times that, when I told someone this fact, they said, "What state is that in?"  I've spoken to many Vermonters who've had the same experience.  I began to think that it was some sort of coordinated joke the rest of the country was playing on Vermonters, but Hanlon's razor weighs against that conclusion.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Ah.hell on May 01, 2019, 10:44:50 AM
I'm from Vermont, orginally.  I lost track of the number of times that, when I told someone this fact, they said, "What state is that in?"  I've spoken to many Vermonters who've had the same experience.  I began to think that it was some sort of coordinated joke the rest of the country was playing on Vermonters, but Hanlon's razor weighs against that conclusion.
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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: PANTS! on May 01, 2019, 10:50:16 AM
I'm from Vermont, orginally.  I lost track of the number of times that, when I told someone this fact, they said, "What state is that in?"  I've spoken to many Vermonters who've had the same experience.  I began to think that it was some sort of coordinated joke the rest of the country was playing on Vermonters, but Hanlon's razor weighs against that conclusion.
Perhaps if your state didn't have such a frenchy name.  Tell 'em you're from Green Mountain.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: daniel1948 on May 01, 2019, 12:11:25 PM
I'm from Vermont, orginally.  I lost track of the number of times that, when I told someone this fact, they said, "What state is that in?"  I've spoken to many Vermonters who've had the same experience.  I began to think that it was some sort of coordinated joke the rest of the country was playing on Vermonters, but Hanlon's razor weighs against that conclusion.

When I lived in North Dakota, when I traveled, Americans would asked me where that was. But when I visited Cuba, people would say, (I'm translating) "Oh, yes. In the middle, next to Canada." Cubans know more U.S. geography than we do ourselves. Which says something about our respective educational systems.

I know very little U.S. geography. And even less world geography. Of course, now that I'm in my dotage I cannot even remember the things I do know.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: The Latinist on May 01, 2019, 12:27:49 PM
We were once getting gas at a station in upstate New York, just a stone's throw from Lake Champlain (a 172-mile long lake with an area of 587 square miles and which separates New York from Vermont). If you stood on a hill, you might have been able to see Vermont.  The attendant, looking at our license plate, said, "Vermont?  Where's that?"

My dad, taken aback but not wanting to sound condescending, replied, "Oh...just across the lake."

"What lake?"
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: seamas on May 01, 2019, 01:11:58 PM
Well, Upstaters. What can you say?

I mean a good number of them are Red Sox fans, so that says all you need to know about their intelligence.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on May 06, 2019, 02:52:39 AM
As a public service I will say this.

Australia has six states and two territories, and some tiny offshore bits that no-one really cares about.

The capital of New South Wales is Sydney. The capital of Victoria is Melbourne. The capital of Queensland is Brisbane. The capital of South Australia is Adelaide. The capital of Tasmania is Hobart. The capital of the Northern Territory is Darwin. The capital of Western Australia is Perth. The capital, and only city, in the Australian Capital Territory, which is also the nation's capital, is Canberra, which is where I live.

Wagga Wagga is in New South Wales, and don't call it Wagga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOpxdUjPiAs

Incidentally, Wagga Wagga is where the Charles Sturt University's world-class viticulture programme is.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Tassie Dave on May 06, 2019, 03:05:07 AM
You missed the best state.  ;)

The capital of Tasmania is T  ;D
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: arthwollipot on May 06, 2019, 03:15:43 AM
You missed the best state.  ;)

The capital of Tasmania is T  ;D

I did! I'm very sorry. I've fixed it now.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Calinthalus on May 06, 2019, 10:09:52 AM
As an American, all I know of some of those places are song lyrics/titles.  Some aren't exactly flattering:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNqxI5EdiI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNqxI5EdiI)


Some sound nice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PszjpiUjxU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PszjpiUjxU)
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Shibboleth on May 06, 2019, 12:19:40 PM
I first think of Willie Nelson.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: moj on May 07, 2019, 02:23:20 PM
WT fcking F Georgia!

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/hb-481-georgia-law-criminalizes-abortion-subjects-women-to-life-in-prison.html

This should probably go in the politics section but F U Georgia, this is why you are not, nor will ever be cool.

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On Tuesday, Georgia Republican Gov. Brian Kemp signed a “fetal heartbeat” bill that seeks to outlaw abortion after about six weeks. The measure, HB 481, is the most extreme abortion ban in the country—not just because it would impose severe limitations on women’s reproductive rights, but also because it would subject women who get illegal abortions to life imprisonment and the death penalty.

The primary purpose of HB 481 is to prohibit doctors from terminating any pregnancy after they can detect “embryonic or fetal cardiac activity,” which typically occurs at six weeks’ gestation. But the bill does far more than that. In one sweeping provision, it declares that “unborn children are a class of living, distinct person” that deserves “full legal recognition.” Thus, Georgia law must “recognize unborn children as natural persons”—not just for the purposes of abortion, but as a legal rule.

This radical revision of Georgia law is quite deliberate: The bill confirms that fetuses “shall be included in population based determinations” from now on, because they are legally humans, and residents of the state. But it is not clear whether the bill’s drafters contemplated the more dramatic consequences of granting legal personhood to fetuses. For instance, as Georgia appellate attorney Andrew Fleischman has pointed out, the moment this bill takes effect on Jan. 1, 2020, the state will be illegally holding thousands of citizens in jail without bond. That’s because, under HB 481, pregnant inmates’ fetuses have independent rights—including the right to due process. Can a juvenile attorney represent an inmate’s fetus and demand its release? If not, why? It is an egregious due process violation to punish one human for the crimes of another. If an inmate’s fetus is a human, how can Georgia lawfully detain it for a crime it did not commit?
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on May 07, 2019, 04:43:05 PM
Does Georgia really give a flying fuck about due process?
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: mindme on May 08, 2019, 08:09:36 AM
Georgia city not ready for a black employee. Sigh.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/georgia-mayor-under-fire-for-alleged-remarks-about-black-job-candidate/Qr403ZLnF5VuB8CzpngLjP/

Mayor wins support from city councilor who says race mixing isn't Christian. Sigh.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/05/georgia-city-councilman-interracial-marriage-is-not-how-christians-should-live/

I'm a big believe large progressive companies should move 50,000 progressive employees into these states and start to change the politics at the ballot box.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: BAWRFRS on May 08, 2019, 02:47:07 PM
or the ones there should just relocate, get the F out, let them rot.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on May 08, 2019, 03:27:17 PM
Georgia is really two different places, I have heard this said about Cali too.

Greater Atlanta is an entirely different animal than the rest of the state. We tried seceding but they threatened to cut off our water supply.

The general consensus among my local union leaders is that this new abortion law will not make it through court when challenged.

or the ones there should just relocate, get the F out, let them rot.

Don't punish those that have been fighting this. The last thing we need is for anyone to leave, it just makes the conservatives more smug.

This is a quote from a FB friend and union sister.

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It is very easy to think that Hollywood should call for a ban of shooting in Georgia as a way to punish the state. "Dollars talk." Etc..... But here is the reality of the situation. The film industry pulls out of Georgia and the headway that we have made flipping this state purple is lost. The real difference is made fighting this on the battleground where the fight matters. And that is flipping seats while supporting the ACLU who are the ones who will be confronting this in court. If our state loses this battle, there will be far reaching rolling consequences including California.

I still love this city and state regardless of the shameful political and religious mess. 
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: CarbShark on May 08, 2019, 03:36:03 PM
California is like four entirely different states


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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: wastrel on May 08, 2019, 06:14:58 PM
Georgia is really two different places, I have heard this said about Cali too.

Greater Atlanta is an entirely different animal than the rest of the state. We tried seceding but they threatened to cut off our water supply.

The general consensus among my local union leaders is that this new abortion law will not make it through court when challenged.

or the ones there should just relocate, get the F out, let them rot.

Don't punish those that have been fighting this. The last thing we need is for anyone to leave, it just makes the conservatives more smug.

This is a quote from a FB friend and union sister.

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It is very easy to think that Hollywood should call for a ban of shooting in Georgia as a way to punish the state. "Dollars talk." Etc..... But here is the reality of the situation. The film industry pulls out of Georgia and the headway that we have made flipping this state purple is lost. The real difference is made fighting this on the battleground where the fight matters. And that is flipping seats while supporting the ACLU who are the ones who will be confronting this in court. If our state loses this battle, there will be far reaching rolling consequences including California.

I still love this city and state regardless of the shameful political and religious mess.

I have such mixed feelings about the proposed movie industry boycott of Georgia.  I know so much of your (and thousands of others just like you) are tied to that economy, but I can't fault members of that industry wanted to flex it's muscles to try to influence change. Ultimately, dollars will probably speak louder than politics though, at least form the studios's perspectives, and they will continue to do business in GA regardless.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: CarbShark on May 08, 2019, 07:59:40 PM
Georgia is really two different places, I have heard this said about Cali too.

Greater Atlanta is an entirely different animal than the rest of the state. We tried seceding but they threatened to cut off our water supply.

The general consensus among my local union leaders is that this new abortion law will not make it through court when challenged.

or the ones there should just relocate, get the F out, let them rot.

Don't punish those that have been fighting this. The last thing we need is for anyone to leave, it just makes the conservatives more smug.

This is a quote from a FB friend and union sister.

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It is very easy to think that Hollywood should call for a ban of shooting in Georgia as a way to punish the state. "Dollars talk." Etc..... But here is the reality of the situation. The film industry pulls out of Georgia and the headway that we have made flipping this state purple is lost. The real difference is made fighting this on the battleground where the fight matters. And that is flipping seats while supporting the ACLU who are the ones who will be confronting this in court. If our state loses this battle, there will be far reaching rolling consequences including California.

I still love this city and state regardless of the shameful political and religious mess.

I have such mixed feelings about the proposed movie industry boycott of Georgia.  I know so much of your (and thousands of others just like you) are tied to that economy, but I can't fault members of that industry wanted to flex it's muscles to try to influence change. Ultimately, dollars will probably speak louder than politics though, at least form the studios's perspectives, and they will continue to do business in GA regardless.

The boycott is actually going to cost the state a lot of income. There is fierce competition for movie and TV production, and numerous states have government offices set up to bring in productions.

Studios, producers and networks won't be changing their existing contracts or disrupt ongoing productions (Walking Dead will stay put) but new shows will be headed to other states or Canada, and the budding Georgian film industry will slowly dry up.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on May 08, 2019, 09:08:16 PM
Georgia is really two different places, I have heard this said about Cali too.

Greater Atlanta is an entirely different animal than the rest of the state. We tried seceding but they threatened to cut off our water supply.

The general consensus among my local union leaders is that this new abortion law will not make it through court when challenged.

or the ones there should just relocate, get the F out, let them rot.

Don't punish those that have been fighting this. The last thing we need is for anyone to leave, it just makes the conservatives more smug.

This is a quote from a FB friend and union sister.

Quote
It is very easy to think that Hollywood should call for a ban of shooting in Georgia as a way to punish the state. "Dollars talk." Etc..... But here is the reality of the situation. The film industry pulls out of Georgia and the headway that we have made flipping this state purple is lost. The real difference is made fighting this on the battleground where the fight matters. And that is flipping seats while supporting the ACLU who are the ones who will be confronting this in court. If our state loses this battle, there will be far reaching rolling consequences including California.

I still love this city and state regardless of the shameful political and religious mess.

I have such mixed feelings about the proposed movie industry boycott of Georgia.  I know so much of your (and thousands of others just like you) are tied to that economy, but I can't fault members of that industry wanted to flex it's muscles to try to influence change. Ultimately, dollars will probably speak louder than politics though, at least form the studios's perspectives, and they will continue to do business in GA regardless.

The problem is there are those using this issue to push an entirely different agenda to get the work out of Georgia and back to LA.

Milano changed her tune once the local female film workers contacted her. She went down to protest but I think it still hurt the cause. She went in representing a large group of female film workers who remained outside, Georgia residents and voters, Milano is not, when questioned about it she was made to look foolish and mostly ignored. They would have been much better off choosing a local resident to go in and speak while Milano played to the news cameras outside. I suppose the attention was better than nothing but the conservative voters in this state do not cave in to Liberal threats, they sneer at them then double down.  If you want to make a real statement contact Coke, Delta, UPS and Home Depot then refuse to use their services . They are all headquartered here and have the real power. I don't want any of their people loosing work either but a boycott threat from one of those companies would be devastating as opposed to the film industry.

Regardless, the ACLU is not recommending a boycott nor is the greater film industry for now.

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/georgia-governor-signs-heartbeat-bill-hollywood-quiet-boycott-1202132239/

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Sources tell IndieWire that they don’t know what a Georgia boycott could accomplish as this plays out in the courts. The ability to influence state politicians on this issue has passed. The impact would be on Hollywood itself, the vendors and crew that have relocated to the state, and its own bottom line. Hollywood brought more dollars back from Georgia ($800 million) during the 2018 fiscal year than the New York, New Mexico and California rebates combined.

Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: CarbShark on May 10, 2019, 12:17:10 PM
Here's a couple interesting takes:



Dear Hollywood: Georgia's new abortion law means you have to stop shooting there. Now - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-hollywood-georgia-abortion-law-20190510-story.html?fbclid=IwAR2q3MToAiv_xae2QEdHVlCHSad_1BxEEr5CRYA9eXIgnq6UViXk4P0brdo)



Muted Hollywood response to Georgia's 'heartbeat' abortion ban shows how much studios have to lose - Los Angeles Times (https://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-hollywood-georgia-heartbeat-abortion-law-muted-response-20190510-story.html)

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But the entertainment industry’s response to the same state’s new, restrictive abortion law has been relatively muted after Gov. Brian Kemp on Tuesday signed a bill banning abortions once a fetal heartbeat can be detected. That can be as early as six weeks, which is before many women know they’re pregnant.

FWIW, I don't think the boycott will lead to a complete shutdown of anything. Even if there's no official boycott, the decision makers in the industry will be less eager to start new productions in Georgia.

Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on May 19, 2019, 12:20:59 PM
Right now when I hear Georgia I think of strong women (and puppets) Molly Coffee is leading the fight representing female film workers.

https://vimeo.com/337096453


please sign the petition

https://dachshund-horse-jzb7.squarespace.com/we-are-the-women-of?fbclid=IwAR10nMUkN6l3Tjkf213B20XRxP6SNOIL_GGcp-AzAYWCcVXGODwZ50B1TRY

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WE ARE THE WOMEN OF THE FILM & MEDIA INDUSTRY IN GEORGIA. WE’VE BEEN BUILDING UP OUR INDIVIDUAL CAREERS FOR YEARS, AND MANY OF US ARE ACTIVE IN VARIOUS INDUSTRY ORGANIZATIONS, UNITING TO RIDE THE UPS AND DOWNS THAT SO MANY OF US EXPERIENCE IN THIS BUSINESS
IT IS WITH SOME CONSIDERABLE FRUSTRATION THAT WE HAVE WATCHED OUR STATE GOVERNMENT AND OUR CURRENT GOVERNOR ATTEMPT TO CIRCUMVENT OUR NATIONAL LAWS AND UNDERMINE THE ABILITY OF GEORGIA WOMEN TO MAKE THEIR OWN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH DECISIONS. MANY OF US WORKED HARD TO ELECT A GOVERNMENT THAT RESPECTS OUR JUDGMENT AND COMPETENCY AS WOMEN TO MAKE THE VERY PERSONAL CHOICES THAT GOVERN OUR LIVES. IT HAS BEEN DISCOURAGING AND HEARTBREAKING TO COME SO CLOSE TO ELECTING THE REPRESENTATION WE DESERVE, ONLY TO BE DRAGGED BACK DECADES.
IT IS EVEN MORE DEVASTATING TO WATCH OUR STATE BE PAINTED WITH ONE WIDE BRUSH. WE NOW SHARE THE BURDEN OF CONDEMNATION FOR ACTIONS WE FOUGHT FROM THE BEGINNING – WITH OUR TIME, ENERGY, TALENTS, AND CONTRIBUTIONS. IN SPITE OF BEING PART OF THE RESISTANCE, WE’LL SUFFER THE ACTIONS OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TWICE OVER. FIRST, IN THAT OUR CANDIDATES DID NOT WIN A CLEAR MAJORITY DURING AN ELECTION WITH NUMEROUS QUESTIONABLE PRACTICES. SECOND, IN THE MULTIPLE WAYS WE MAY SUFFER FROM LOSS OF INCOME AND RESOURCES IN OUR INDUSTRY DUE TO BOYCOTTS.
MANY OF US MADE CAREER CHOICES THAT ALLOWED US TO STAY HERE WHERE WE HAD BUILT A COMMUNITY, A FAMILY, A HOME. WE ARE WOMEN OF ALL FAITHS AND COLORS, FROM ALL KINDS OF BACKGROUNDS. WE ARE THE BACKBONE OF THIS INDUSTRY AND WE DO NOT TAKE WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE, OR AROUND THE COUNTRY, OR AROUND THE WORLD, LIGHTLY. IT WOULD BE A GREAT COMFORT TO MOVE TO ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THE FIGHTS FELT FAIR AND THE BATTLES WERE EASIER TO WIN. BUT THAT WOULD BE GIVING UP AND WE ARE NOT QUITTERS.
TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO COME TO GEORGIA BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING. BUT PLEASE KNOW THIS: GEORGIA’S HARDWORKING WOMEN AND MANY MEN IN THIS INDUSTRY WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE RESISTANCE FROM THE INSIDE. WITH OUR VOICES, OUR ART, AND OUR DAILY BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WE’LL KEEP WORKING FOR THE LEADERSHIP WE DESERVE. YOUR CONDEMNATION IS UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED MOST IS ALLIES. CHANGE IS COMING. YOUR SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT IS APPRECIATED, HOWEVER YOU CAN GIVE IT.
YOURS FROM THE FRONT,
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: amysrevenge on May 23, 2019, 10:56:36 AM
Congratulations to us - now the first thing I think of when I hear "Georgia" is this thread.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: FrugalLife on May 28, 2019, 12:14:50 PM
I think of my former state of residence. Georgia has lots of good things about it. Most people are genuinely nice, the weather is beautiful, and the warm seasons are great. The bad things outweigh the good things, IMHO.

Bad things: the government is corrupt, from the governor right down to the Recorder's Court clerks. There is still a lot of racism. In Atlanta, get used to being called a "white devil" or "cracker", if you're white. If you're not white, get used to being regularly taunted with racist slurs outside Atlanta. They even have 2 state flags. If you see the two columned flag with revolutionary war figures, you're in Atlanta and suburbs. If you see the old stars and bars flag, you're in Georgia. Women aren't so much humans as baby incubators.

I'm SO GLAD I got the hell out of Georgia.

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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on May 28, 2019, 12:44:09 PM
I think of my former state of residence. Georgia has lots of good things about it. Most people are genuinely nice, the weather is beautiful, and the warm seasons are great. The bad things outweigh the good things, IMHO.

Bad things: the government is corrupt, from the governor right down to the Recorder's Court clerks. There is still a lot of racism. In Atlanta, get used to being called a "white devil" or "cracker", if you're white. If you're not white, get used to being regularly taunted with racist slurs outside Atlanta. They even have 2 state flags. If you see the two columned flag with revolutionary war figures, you're in Atlanta and suburbs. If you see the old stars and bars flag, you're in Georgia. Women aren't so much humans as baby incubators.

I'm SO GLAD I got the hell out of Georgia.

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I have never once been called a white devil or a cracker in Georgia. I'm not saying you were not called that but if someone was called that I would have to wonder why.

Thanks for reducing traffic in ATL and welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: FrugalLife on May 28, 2019, 01:17:20 PM
So, because you had a different experience, I'm either lying or somehow deserved it?

FYI, I was called a "white devil", after asking a black lady about her star of David necklace. She explained that she's a "Black Hebrew". I asked, very politely, what is a Black Hebrew. She went on to describe some beliefs, where she bemoaned the existence of "white devils". I asked what is a "white devil", and she gestured toward me. As I walked away saying something about her being racist, she called me a "filthy white devil". She was a cashier at the Stone Mountain gift shop.

The cracker label was tossed my way after accidentally bumping into a guy walking into a store. I apologized, because I couldn't see where I was walking, having my hands full of boxes. The guy called me a "useless, entitled cracker", and kept walking. I had never heard that word before, being from the western part of the country.

You're most welcome. You can keep the traffic, corruption and racism all for yourself.

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Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on May 28, 2019, 01:37:25 PM
The wet heat.  It makes people crazy.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: Captain Video on May 28, 2019, 01:41:17 PM
So, because you had a different experience, I'm either lying or somehow deserved it?

FYI, I was called a "white devil", after asking a black lady about her star of David necklace. She explained that she's a "Black Hebrew". I asked, very politely, what is a Black Hebrew. She went on to describe some beliefs, where she bemoaned the existence of "white devils". I asked what is a "white devil", and she gestured toward me. As I walked away saying something about her being racist, she called me a "filthy white devil". She was a cashier at the Stone Mountain gift shop.

The cracker label was tossed my way after accidentally bumping into a guy walking into a store. I apologized, because I couldn't see where I was walking, having my hands full of boxes. The guy called me a "useless, entitled cracker", and kept walking. I had never heard that word before, being from the western part of the country.

You're most welcome. You can keep the traffic, corruption and racism all for yourself.

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I thought I was specific that was not calling you a liar, sorry if you were still given that impression. I also never accused you of anything and merely wondered why because yes my experiences have been different.
Title: Re: What do you think of first when you hear "Georgia"?
Post by: PANTS! on May 29, 2019, 11:55:44 AM
To be fair, the Black Hebrew Isrealite movement is a racist cult, and seriously wackadoodle.