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General Discussions => General Discussion => Topic started by: seamas on August 19, 2019, 03:13:17 PM
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I grew up in an area where "hero" was most common, "sub" slightly less so.
Where I live now --only a few counties away "wedge" is the common term. Never heard that before moving here.
If I go an hour or so East/northeast I am in Grinder land. Go 2 or 3 hours south / southeast and Hoagie becomes better known.
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Big sandwich. Or sandwich. Or (large) baguette.
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Sub, but I'm abstaining because its never a "submarine". Its a bit unfair though, I was not exposed to such a sandwich until adulthood, when my first exposure was Subway.
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Sub, but I'm abstaining because its never a "submarine".
I've removed the offensive "submarine" for you so you can participate
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Philly cheesesteak, 12"er.
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This is a good one but you will have to define whats in the sandwich as I mite have several of those on the same menu
If you are referring to the basic Italian sandwich with varying ingredients but basically ham, capicola, salami, provolone on a long flute shaped roll I call that a sub
Going up in Pennsylvania we called it a Hoagie but when i moved to Florida and later Georgia nobody knows wtf i'm talking about so i grew accustomed to calling it a sub. Plus subway screwed those sandwiches up for everyone.
If you put it in the oven it becomes a grinder.
if you put it on some kind of sliced bread piled high with stuff it becomes a Dagwood
Po-Boys have specific ingredients and are different than subs. Often with fried seafood or roast beef/gravy. Much like a "Cuban" would also not be called a sub but it looks similar.
Its possible to make a roast beef sub that does not qualify as a po-boy and vice versa.
A wedge is taken from a muffuletta which yet again a different sandwich.
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A wedge is taken from a muffuletta which yet again a different sandwich.
According to lore "wedge" (very localized to the counties of Westchester NY and Fairfield CT) originated in Yonkers as a shortening of sandwich.
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If you are referring to the basic Italian sandwich with varying ingredients but basically ham, capicola, salami, provolone on a long flute shaped roll I call that a sub
Here that is called Italian combo wedge--but could be had on a kaiser as Italian combo on a roll.
Interesting tidbit: the Italian sub originated in Maine of all places.
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Sub, but definitely not an ideological prescriptivist about it. There is zero outrage in my life for anyone who wants to name any sandwich almost anything they like, as long as it's recognizably in the sandwich family of names.
(Same for pizza, anything even vaguely pizza-ish can be called whatever you like.)
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(Same for pizza, anything even vaguely pizza-ish can be called whatever you like.)
Do you accept when it is called pie?
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(Same for pizza, anything even vaguely pizza-ish can be called whatever you like.)
Do you accept when it is called pie?
It isn't (at any point in my life), but in theory I could deal. As long as there isn't a significant chance for it to be confused for an apple pie, don't care. Call your shit what you like.
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I will often try to gently poke fun at recipe prescriptivists, by, for example, publicly calling my product "jabalaya-inspired rice dish" or "pizza-inspired flatbread" or whatever, because you know someone is just going to say "hey man, you put normal smoked sausage in there and jabmalaya has to have anduille sausage so what you're making isn't jambalaya".
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A wedge is taken from a muffuletta which yet again a different sandwich.
According to lore "wedge" (very localized to the counties of Westchester NY and Fairfield CT) originated in Yonkers as a shortening of sandwich.
I do vaguely remember reference to those when I lived up north now that I think about it.
They mite call them different names in deferent areas but they also have different ways of making them that can make them unique.
What mite make that wedge different is the specific bread they use or the specific way they make it.
I think some sandwiches have been so screwed up by the fast food chains its difficult to figure out what the original sandwiches are supposed to taste like.
If subway makes what they try to call a reuben is it still a reuben or is it actually a corned beef and swiss sub with sour kraut and thousand islands, I say the latter.
amysrevenge can make fun of me >:D
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I think some sandwiches have been so screwed up by the fast food chains its difficult to figure out what the original sandwiches are supposed to taste like.
I agree. I am lucky in that I can get to at least two excellent delicatessens during my lunch break.
One of them is very popular and for good reason.
Though there might be a line of ten people ahead of you, there are at least six people behind the counter filling the orders--and they make a good sandwich.
I grew up accustomed to these places, and lament that their numbers are dwindling.
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It isn't (at any point in my life), but in theory I could deal. As long as there isn't a significant chance for it to be confused for an apple pie, don't care. Call your shit what you like.
I basically agree, call it what you like unless its going to cause confusion.
If its got corned beef or pastrami, swiss cheese, saurkraut, thousand island or russian dressing and comes on rye, sure call it a reuben. If its all that but on white bread, not a reuben.
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It isn't (at any point in my life), but in theory I could deal. As long as there isn't a significant chance for it to be confused for an apple pie, don't care. Call your shit what you like.
I basically agree, call it what you like unless its going to cause confusion.
If its got corned beef or pastrami, swiss cheese, saurkraut, thousand island or russian dressing and comes on rye, sure call it a reuben. If its all that but on white bread, not a reuben.
Reuben-inspired sandwich.
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In delis here you just ask for a roll.
Chicken roll, salad roll, breakfast roll etc.
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In delis here you just ask for a roll.
Chicken roll, salad roll, breakfast roll etc.
they have that here with some things
clam roll
Lobster roll
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I have visited coastal Maine at least a dozen times over the last 20 years and this was the first time I ever ordered a Lobster roll.
Pretty satisfying.
(typically, when I eat lobster, I buy them live and steam them)
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In delis here you just ask for a roll.
Chicken roll, salad roll, breakfast roll etc.
they have that here with some things
clam roll
Lobster roll
Thats just lobster in a baguette? That. Sounds terrible lol!
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The best sandwich in town IMO is from a place called Star Provisions. They have their own farm and cows.
Its prosciutto di parma, parmigiano reggiano shavings and fresh churned butter on a baguette.
I have never been to France but my ex claims its the closest thing to a real french baguette she has ever had. Its crispy and floury and airy and OH MY GOD! If I wasn't such a skeptic it would be proof that god does exist. Its the best bread I have ever had.
Its not the best ham I have ever had but it is a higher end prosciutto thats extremely good. (I personally think the Spanish Serrano and Iberico hams are better)
I hesitate to call a Sub, it has no vegetables not that vegetables define a sub. Calling it a sub would feel like I am lowering the status of this masterpiece.
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In delis here you just ask for a roll.
Chicken roll, salad roll, breakfast roll etc.
they have that here with some things
clam roll
Lobster roll
Thats just lobster in a baguette? That. Sounds terrible lol!
LOL
There are two versions of this and other regional variations of those. A hot with butter on the baguette and a cold with mayo,
The cold is served on a buttered toasted "split"sweet roll (and sometimes a hotdog bun) Its my favorite but expensive.
Here in ATL they have a "clam roll" that is made with fried clam strips (ala Howard Johnsons) on a small split dinner roll with mayo
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Often he lobster roll has lettuce and tomato as well.
The cold can sometimes be pretty much a lobster salad.
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A common sandwich I only became familiar with about 10 years ago is a "Balboa".
I thought it was just a nickname a this particular pub used for a steak and cheese sandwich (on a garlic bread sub) that was some offhand approximation to a Philly Cheese steak.
Now I found that the name for this is fairly common, but originated somewhere in this county.
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A sub, but only because of Subway. Prior to subway, it was just a roll or a bun - there wasn't any particular word that was used to refer to it. When filled with salad, it was a salad roll. Putting other stuff on it wasn't really a thing.
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I can't answer the poll because, as Captain Video said, it depends on the sandwich. If it's on a long, submarine-shaped bread roll, it's a sub. If it's square sliced bread piled so high you cannot eat it unless your jaws unhinge like those of a python, then it's a Dagwood, after the comic character. Anything else is just a sandwich.
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I am surprised "hero" hasn't had any votes.
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Where and when I grew up, a sandwich on a long roll was grinder. Now around here in CT it's either a grinder or a sub. I've encountered heroes in NY state. I've never heard of a wedge, though I suppose I've never tried to buy a sandwich in Fairfield County.
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Sub, but I'm abstaining because its never a "submarine".
I've removed the offensive "submarine" for you so you can participate
My mother was rather formal in this - she always called it a "submarine sandwich." Everyone else in the family just called it a "sub."
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Where and when I grew up, a sandwich on a long roll was grinder. Now around here in CT it's either a grinder or a sub. I've encountered heroes in NY state. I've never heard of a wedge, though I suppose I've never tried to buy a sandwich in Fairfield County.
In the Philadelphia area, a NON-cheesesteak sandwich on a long roll is a hoagie. A warm/toasted hoagie becomes a grinder.
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In New England, a grinder may be hot or cold.
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Grinder is not unheard of here, but sub is by far the most common.
There's one shop I can think of that calls it a hero, but I think it is just to be quirky.
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I have never heard, in the wild as it were, a sandwich referred to as a Hero, Hoagie, Grinder, Wedge, Po-Boy, Dagwood, Bomber, Spuckie, or Torpedo. I was aware that some people referred to Heroes and Hoagies, but I haven't ever even heard of the other terms. Not even in American popular culture. "Po-boy" WTF?
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Po’ Boy is a shortening of Poor Boy, a sandwich for the working class. It originated, as far as I know, with a particular shop in New Orleans. It’s a very local term, originally, though it’s become more trendy.
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Po’ Boy is a shortening of Poor Boy, a sandwich for the working class. It originated, as far as I know, with a particular shop in New Orleans. It’s a very local term, originally, though it’s become more trendy.
Interesting.
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Po’ Boy is a shortening of Poor Boy, a sandwich for the working class. It originated, as far as I know, with a particular shop in New Orleans. It’s a very local term, originally, though it’s become more trendy.
Interesting.
My favorite is a shrimp Po-boy. Usually New Orleans seasoned deep fried gulf shrimp (prawns) dressed with lettuce, tomato, pickles and remoulade sauce on a crusty french roll.
They do the same with fried oysters and fried fish.
They have a roast beef Po-boy but its different than roast beef "subs" in the rest of the US, it has a rich brown gravy made with a dark roux but they still dress it with the above vegetables and sauce. Personally I like it much better without the vegetables.
This reminds me of another term "Dips" or French Dips which originated in LA but you find them everywhere including sub shops. Roasted meats on a soft roll dipped in meat juice then served with a side of the juice. There is some argument and controversy over the order in which you apply the juice. I have never had an original from one of the two locations that fight over the title but I can only guess that I have had some decent close approximations. Never at a sub shop but its pretty darn close to a sub. Chicago has the "Italian beef" which is similar.
In most cases these regional sandwiches are best from the area they originated but not always. Much like it wont taste like a "Philly" cheese steak unless you are getting it in Philly but who cares, I mite be from that area but even I admit the ones from Philly are not that great and cheese whiz sucks.
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It's either 'a roll' or a specific type of roll i.e 'chicken roll', 'salad roll'
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Here there not really a specific go to term, it's really dependent on what type of sandwich it is. I don't eat a lot of large sammies so I might just not be in the know? I'm familiar with all the terms listed due to pop culture but only ever really hear sub in real life.
ETA spect for po-boy, that refers to a very specific type of sandwich and not sure it should be on a list of generic terms.
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ETA spect for po-boy, that refers to a very specific type of sandwich and not sure it should be on a list of generic terms.
Not all that specific. there are a whole variety of Po-Boys on New Orleans menus.
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ETA spect for po-boy, that refers to a very specific type of sandwich and not sure it should be on a list of generic terms.
Not all that specific. there are a whole variety of Po-Boys on New Orleans menus.
True, but there is still a criteria to being a po-boy that is different from a generic term for large sandwich. A whole wheat sub with ham, swiss and mustered is a not a po-boy but could be any of the other generic sandwich terms. A banh mi is the same way. There are a lot of types and variety of of them out there, but not every large sandwich can be one.
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Has anyone ever eaten at Schlotzsky's? I had one yesterday and it was horrible.
I think I rank them far below subway except they also have Cinnabon which if fresh gives them a few bonus points.
They have round sandwiches "inspired" very loosely after the Muffuletta from New Orleans. It is a "big sandwich" and they have three sizes, one is bigger than my face but I would not be able to classify them in any of the categories above and I certainly would never call them a Muffuletta because 5 fake black olive slices is not an olive salad and cheddar cheese NEVER works with Italian meats.
I don't know what you call them, this is what they look like
(https://cdn.schlotzskys.com/-/media/schlotzskys/menu/sandwiches/the-original_874x440.jpg?v=1&d=20180104T171756Z)
The sourdough bun thing in the picture is dry as hell, so is the pumpernickel on the "not-a reuben" that they also sell.
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By the way, the inner pollack in me wants to call a sandwich a "sangwidge".
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Haha my mother-in-law says "sandridge".
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By the way, the inner pollack in me wants to call a sandwich a "sangwidge".
One of my speech communication students said "sangwich." I tried to correct her by telling her she was ruining the punch line:
Why won't you starve in the desert?
Because of all the sandwiches there.
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Why won't you starve in the desert?
Because of all the sandwiches there.
That's a bit like something I made up during the GW Bush years.
We have a new power station. It's just over there. You can't see it? That's because it's see-through. It's our new, clear power station.
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Do you pronounce ‘nuclear’ with two syllables, Art? Or do you pronounce clear with two? Because to me ‘new-clear’ is very different from ‘nuclear.’
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Do you pronounce ‘nuclear’ with two syllables, Art? Or do you pronounce clear with two? Because to me ‘new-clear’ is very different from ‘nuclear.’
Clear has two syllables. Clee-ah (remembering the non-rhotic R), although in common speech they would probably run together a little bit.
The other difference is that an American would pronounce the first syllable "noo-" rather than "nyoo-" to rhyme with the sound a kitten makes.
Okay, maybe it wasn't the most transportable joke.
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What sort of mutant kittens do you have down under?
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Ones that say "mew" to rhyme with "new".
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Freaks.
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Adorable, fluffy freaks.
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By the way, the inner pollack in me wants to call a sandwich a "sangwidge".
One of my speech communication students said "sangwich." I tried to correct her by telling her she was ruining the punch line:
Why won't you starve in the desert?
Because of all the sandwiches there.
You can't ruin that punchline. ;-)
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Well, it's funny for a different reason if the punchline is:
Because of all the sangwidges there.