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Title: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 04, 2019, 12:09:58 AM
Inspired by today’s Computerphile video:

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What’s your favorite shortcut key?

I think mine is CMD + Space on a Mac, which opens Spotlight. I open almost everything through Spotlight, now.

Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: arthwollipot on September 04, 2019, 12:30:52 AM
When Windows 95 first shipped, it came with a readme file that outlined the use of the Windows logo key, which was first included on standard PC keyboards at that time, and has been included on all since. As far as I know that file has never been included with any subsequent release, though the function of the key has not changed in all that time.

Win-M to Minimise all
Win-R to Run
Win-L to lock screen
Win-E to open File Explorer
Win-Up arrow to maximise window
Win-Down arrow to restore

There are a couple of others. These are my "favourite" shortcut keys, but if you're asking which I use most often, it's Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, and all others are a distant second.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Captain Video on September 04, 2019, 01:10:54 AM
 ctrl-Z is pretty universal at undoing something in an adobe program or online.

UPSRT in After Effects. The letter U expands your timeline to show all your keyframes which I think of as the "Uber" key.  P-position S-scale  R-rotation T-transparency  I hit those keys more than any other when animating

I think my favorite though is ctrl-shift-T: reopen a closed tab in my browser. I use that all the time.

Edit: Most used shortcuts "on set" other than the spacebar for playback are letters F for fullscreen, N for next video, and P for previous, all in VLC

off topic movie making secret:

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Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 04, 2019, 05:10:44 AM
F2, redeal, for my Spider Solitaire game.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: 2397 on September 04, 2019, 08:37:08 AM
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Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: moj on September 04, 2019, 08:37:52 AM
Control - F brings up a search bar,   lots of my job is digging through logs to see WTF and this makes that easier.

Alt f4   signs out of RDP or windows desktop. Be careful it also kills chrome so if you are using vsphere or a service like that in a browser and hit alt f4 thinking it logging you out, it shuts down the browser.



Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Calinthalus on September 04, 2019, 09:33:20 AM
Cnt-Z, Win-E, Cnt-W (to close tabs), Cnt-T (to open tab), Alt-F4 closes windows.


I use just the Windows key a lot.  If I want to open anything that's not File Explorer, I hit Windows and start typing.  Windows followed by "mstsc" launches RDC, "Linqpad" launches LinqPad etc.etc.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 04, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
Alt-14
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 04, 2019, 01:32:42 PM
I use just the Windows key a lot.  If I want to open anything that's not File Explorer, I hit Windows and start typing.

That's the Windows equivalent of cmd+space on Mac. I use that, too, when managing our Windows servers.

Other most-used shortcut combinations for me include:

cmd+z/cmd+y : undo/redo
cmd+q : close app
ctrl+c : terminate a child process in BASH

Of course copy, paste, etc. that are too common-place to mention.

Alt-14

I used to have a number of alt- codes memorized for inserting unicode characters in Windows.  Alt-0176 was one of my most-used.  Now it's opt+shift+8 (opt+*) on my Mac.  I also use opt+a to add a macron over the next typed letter: ē.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: DevoutCatalyst on September 04, 2019, 01:35:21 PM
Your owl is looking good, The Latinist.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 04, 2019, 03:30:03 PM
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Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 04, 2019, 03:40:27 PM
Your owl is looking good, The Latinist.

Thanks.  I made some refinements, in particular getting everything parallel and consistently spaced. I've also switched to .svg for the icon file. I'm pretty fond of it.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: wastrel on September 04, 2019, 04:23:53 PM
Alt+tab and Ctrl+tab are my most common at work, most of my day is spent jumping between pages and systems.

I recently learned Win+I, which brings up settings, which is pretty handy since my laptop stops recognizing my 3rd monitor every time I un-dock it.

Shift+arrow keys or Home/end are incredibly useful for selecting text.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Alex Simmons on September 04, 2019, 04:29:53 PM
What happens when you hit Alt-Right?  :D
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Calinthalus on September 04, 2019, 04:31:39 PM
What happens when you hit Alt-Right?  :D
They whine and sue you...
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: stands2reason on September 04, 2019, 04:35:04 PM
Win left & right for snapping to half of screen. Some Linux UIs build on this, allowing for top/bottom half, and snapping to quarters. ShiftIt for Mac gives similar shortcuts.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Captain Video on September 04, 2019, 06:15:03 PM
Your owl is looking good, The Latinist.

Thanks.  I made some refinements, in particular getting everything parallel and consistently spaced. I've also switched to .svg for the icon file. I'm pretty fond of it.

yea nice logo

How many times did you hit Ctrl-Z?  >:D

Illustrator is a nasty beast, its my least liked on my list of most used software. The software is great, its my ineptitude with it that sucks.  >:D

I guess the spacebar actually is a shortcut and I use that more than Ctrl-Z or Ctrl-Shift-T so i'm going to change my favorite to that.

When you hold down the spacebar (in AI, AE, and PS) it temporarily changes whatever tool you are using into the hand tool so you can move around your art on the screen, when you let go it goes back to the original tool, highly useful. If you logged my keys during a session i'm sure I hit this one the most. 

In almost every video playback software package I use, the spacebar is a play/pause shortcut, in fact "I push the spacebar" should be my official job description.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 04, 2019, 06:38:13 PM
Thanks for the info on space bar.  That will be very helpful.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: arthwollipot on September 04, 2019, 08:46:24 PM
There's a prank that we used to play on colleagues when they left their screens unlocked. Ctrl-Alt-Up arrow on a Windows computer flips the screen upside-down.

What was even better if we had time was to take a screenshot of the desktop, rotate it 180°, and set it as their desktop wallpaper, then flip the screen.

Ctrl-Alt-Down arrow restores the screen to its normal orientation if this is ever done to you.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Tassie Dave on September 05, 2019, 04:58:39 AM
My favourite shortcut is command, shift, 4 which (on an Apple) allows cropped screen grabs. Cursor becomes a cross hair which (After pressing left button) can be dragged around part of screen you want to copy.

(Shift, Command, + ) is a handy zoom function. Which is handy for us older folk with wonky vision.  ;)
(Shift, Command, -) to zoom back out.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: jt512 on September 05, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
Alt-SysRq + r e i s u b
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 05, 2019, 06:00:13 PM
I had a shortcut key that worked on every Ford built before 1979. Bloody Peelers took it.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 05, 2019, 06:05:56 PM
My favourite shortcut is command, shift, 4 which (on an Apple) allows cropped screen grabs. Cursor becomes a cross hair which (After pressing left button) can be dragged around part of screen you want to copy.

That's another of my favorites.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: arthwollipot on September 05, 2019, 08:44:51 PM
A bunch of issues with Microsoft Word documents can be resolved by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the sequence A, C, N, V.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 06, 2019, 06:01:24 AM
A bunch of issues with Microsoft Word documents can be resolved by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the sequence A, C, N, V.
Which does what?
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: jt512 on September 06, 2019, 06:40:59 AM
A bunch of issues with Microsoft Word documents can be resolved by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the sequence A, C, N, V.
Which does what?

Uninstalls Microsoft Word.


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Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 06, 2019, 07:44:08 AM
A bunch of issues with Microsoft Word documents can be resolved by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the sequence A, C, N, V.
Which does what?

Select-all, copy, new, paste.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 06, 2019, 07:48:25 AM
A bunch of issues with Microsoft Word documents can be resolved by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the sequence A, C, N, V.
Which does what?

Select-all, copy, new, paste.
Sounds like a job for a macro.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 06, 2019, 08:22:35 AM
A bunch of issues with Microsoft Word documents can be resolved by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the sequence A, C, N, V.
Which does what?

Select-all, copy, new, paste.
Sounds like a job for a macro.

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/is_it_worth_the_time_2x.png)
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Guillermo on September 06, 2019, 08:59:49 AM
It's either ctrl+Z or Windows+L

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/is_it_worth_the_time_2x.png)
This is so interesting and useful for me that I'm going to print it out. Randy is usually very accurate when it comes to this sort of things, I wonder what his source is.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 06, 2019, 09:13:20 AM
I used auto correct a lot when doing German terms.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 06, 2019, 10:38:45 AM
It's either ctrl+Z or Windows+L

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/is_it_worth_the_time_2x.png)
This is so interesting and useful for me that I'm going to print it out. Randy is usually very accurate when it comes to this sort of things, I wonder what his source is.

It's simple math amortizing the time spent over five years.  If you save one second once once a month for five years, you'd be saving 1 * 12 * 5 = 60 seconds, or one minute.  If you spent more than one minute to automate the task, you'd actually be losing time.

This actually came up for me yesterday.  I had to create a bunch of new student accounts on the ActiveDirectory server. I could do it all by hand and it would take me a couple of hours; or I could figure out how to script it in PowerShell and make it a 30 second task.  Since I'll be doing it every year, I took a few hours to learn PowerShell scripting, test the code, and (which took the longest amount of time) debug the code.  I reckon it took me at least twice as long doing it this way, but in the future it will take no time at all and it will be more accurate.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Captain Video on September 13, 2019, 03:49:17 PM
A bunch of issues with Microsoft Word documents can be resolved by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the sequence A, C, N, V.
Which does what?

Select-all, copy, new, paste.
Sounds like a job for a macro.

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/is_it_worth_the_time_2x.png)

I had to share this today but I included a note that sometime the automation is more fun.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 13, 2019, 04:06:01 PM
I had to share this today but I included a note that sometime the automation is more fun.

A very good point. Automation can also be much more accurate, which can sometimes be as important as time savings (but harder to quantify).
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: brilligtove on September 13, 2019, 11:26:47 PM
Aside from cut/copy/paste my most used shortcuts are alt-tab and shift-alt-tab, followed by using F2 to mute/unmute Discord.

I use a lot of ctrl and shift key combos with the mouse and cursor to make funky selections in Excel and Word.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Alex Simmons on September 14, 2019, 01:49:50 AM
I use a lot of ctrl and shift key combos with the mouse and cursor to make funky selections in Excel

If only these keyboard navigation and selections were the same in the Windows and Mac versions of Excel, but alas they are not. It's rather infuriating.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Captain Video on September 14, 2019, 04:34:39 AM
I use a lot of ctrl and shift key combos with the mouse and cursor to make funky selections in Excel

If only these keyboard navigation and selections were the same in the Windows and Mac versions of Excel, but alas they are not. It's rather infuriating.

I agree, floating between both gets me out of whack all the time, the command is in the alt space and acts like control WTF! Option is Alt and usually acts like Alt but its where the windows key should be, control is in its proper place but does ... what? Apple wants me to hit the command key

Can anyone explain what that stuff means and why they decided to set it up differently?
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Noisy Rhysling on September 14, 2019, 05:47:04 AM
Ctrl-Shift-; Puts the current time in a Excel cell. Ctrl-; does the current date.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: brilligtove on September 14, 2019, 10:36:14 PM
I use a lot of ctrl and shift key combos with the mouse and cursor to make funky selections in Excel

If only these keyboard navigation and selections were the same in the Windows and Mac versions of Excel, but alas they are not. It's rather infuriating.

I agree, floating between both gets me out of whack all the time, the command is in the alt space and acts like control WTF! Option is Alt and usually acts like Alt but its where the windows key should be, control is in its proper place but does ... what? Apple wants me to hit the command key

Can anyone explain what that stuff means and why they decided to set it up differently?

I'm pretty sure it was specifically to impose irritating friction on people trying to use the other system. Pure pettu asshole on all fronts, really.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: The Latinist on September 14, 2019, 11:40:06 PM
No, no.  Apple’s command key and command+shortcuts predate the IBM PC. Apple keyboards, were designed to emphasize and complement the GUI and did not have a control key at all.  When IBM created the PC, it used keyboards designed for Mainframes that had existing control keys but did not have a command key.  When Microsoft created Windows for those PCs and started creating their own GUI shortcut combinations, they weren’t in a position to create a new key for that purpose (since they didn’t control the hardware their OS was running on.  So they reused the existing control key.  Apple later added a control key for use in command line apps and the like, but by then their command+ shortcuts were long-established.

So ultimately it’s just a historical accident.  If Microsoft had controlled the PC hardware market or had the clout they would later have when their OS became almost universal, I bet PCs would have had a Windows key front he get-go and those would be Windows+ commands instead.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: brilligtove on September 15, 2019, 05:24:48 AM
I stand corrected. Didn't know any of that.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: drproximo on September 19, 2019, 06:22:14 PM
3, starting with most favourite:

I love Windows+R mostly for the character map, but occasionally for the command line, paint, or notepad.

I only learned about Windows+L recently, and now I use it on my work computer every time I leave the desk.

And I don't know if there's a practical difference between Windows+M and Windows+D, but I've grown accustomed to using the latter.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: drproximo on September 19, 2019, 06:26:27 PM


There's a prank that we used to play on colleagues when they left their screens unlocked. Ctrl-Alt-Up arrow on a Windows computer flips the screen upside-down.

What was even better if we had time was to take a screenshot of the desktop, rotate it 180°, and set it as their desktop wallpaper, then flip the screen.

Ctrl-Alt-Down arrow restores the screen to its normal orientation if this is ever done to you.

I sometimes do a much more primitive version of this on April Fool's if I get the chance. I take a screenshot of the desktop, flip the screenshot, and make the image full screen. I never knew about the flip shortcut.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Alex Simmons on September 20, 2019, 01:45:08 AM
The worst thing with the Mac is when I'm running Win10 in virtual machine and running the Windows version of Excel, the normal keyboard shortcuts to select a range from the current selected cell across or down (or both, or indeed up or left) to the last cell in that row and/or column with content (or the next next cell with content if the ones between are blank) just doesn't work, at all no matter the combination of shift/control/option/command I use with the cursor arrows.

It's infuriating as making such a selection in Excel is such a common action and doing it any other way is a complete PITA, especially with large sheets.
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: brilligtove on September 20, 2019, 09:52:11 AM
The worst thing with the Mac is when I'm running Win10 in virtual machine and running the Windows version of Excel, the normal keyboard shortcuts to select a range from the current selected cell across or down (or both, or indeed up or left) to the last cell in that row and/or column with content (or the next next cell with content if the ones between are blank) just doesn't work, at all no matter the combination of shift/control/option/command I use with the cursor arrows.

It's infuriating as making such a selection in Excel is such a common action and doing it any other way is a complete PITA, especially with large sheets.

Wait, shift+ctrl+[cursor] doesn't work? That sucks. Have you tried it in full-screen windows mode (as opposed to having a Windows window)?
Title: Re: What’s your favorite shortcut key?
Post by: Alex Simmons on September 21, 2019, 06:35:26 AM
Wait, shift+ctrl+[cursor] doesn't work? That sucks.

Well it depends.

If I use the Macbook keyboard, then that works to make a selection of from current position to end of data in row or column. However no combination on the Macbook keyboard enables moving from current cell to the next cell containing data in that row or column.

When using the Apple Magic 2 Keyboard, then none of them work.

Have you tried it in full-screen windows mode (as opposed to having a Windows window)?

This makes no difference. Indeed use of CTRL+cursor changes the window position and size, shifting it to the left or right or reducing its size, or maximising it.

It's a fustercluck.