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I'm not seeing it either.

Skepticism and Vegetarianism seems orthogonal.  The intersect would be on potentially questionable claims made by vegetarians but that's just an issue of specific claims.  Vegetarianism writ large isn't premised on any specific claims so why would this matter? 
TV & Movies / Re: Rate the last movie you just saw.
« Last post by Soldier of FORTRAN on Today at 06:16:07 PM »
Sorry to Bother You - 9/10

It's basically a 50/50 mix between [Surreal Dark Comedy] and [Social Commentary].  If you like either of those, consider it strongly recommended.
Seems patently silly.

This coming from a vegetarian skeptic.
Yeah, I don't see the contradiction there.
General Discussion / Re: Five most serious problems?
« Last post by Harry Black on Today at 05:34:27 PM »
The bubble keeps growing until it pops.

I completely agree with the list in the OP.
Its great that we have fewer starving people but its not enough. Corporate influence and bootstrap philosophy is driving us back toward pre WW2 levels of hopelessness and the concentration of wealth shows no sign of slowing down.

Along with global warming, we are sitting on a timebomb that desperately needs to be defused.
Sure. We have always figured things out in the past, but we have never had problems of this magnitude (depending on the validity of the Toba catastrophe).
A few people are trying to insulate themselves from the consequences of their actions and leaving the rest of us to deal with it.
An undefeated fighter only remains so until their inevitable defeat. Statistically, humanity will fail to solve a final problem at some point and we are stacking the deck against ourselves right now in relation to a few fucking doozies.

Getting rid of leaders who make the above problem worse needs to an absolute priority. And not just the obvious ones who say silly things about Russia. We have to make an international decision that enough of us will vote to stop the fuckwits from grabbing the wheel of our species survival.
I saw an online discussion about skepticism, and one self-identified skeptic wrote that he was also a vegetarian, and often received questions from fellow skeptics how he could be a vegetarian if he is a skeptic. He therefore had stopped telling other skeptics about his vegetarianism.

I wonder, is there any contradiction or conflict between skepticism and vegetarianism? I would think that as long as you don't invoke and pseudoscientific or logically fallacious argument in favor of your vegetarianism, you can be a skeptic and also a vegetarian. Correct? Or am I missing something?

(For the record, I'm personally not a vegetarian.)
I do agree with that.
Its shit to see a thing that you feel defines you and perhaps you even had to pay a price for, having its best parts separated in a blender and used to benefit the very kinds of people who made your life hard in the first place.

Like suddenly every Hollywood actor loved every obscure comic? Fuck off.
My car is in the shop so Ive been running home from work everyday with my backpack.
Much more annoying when its the only way home!

Also means I havent been able to go to the gym to do my other stuff so its been pull ups before work instead.
Back in the day, words like "nerd," "geek," "dork," and "dweeb" were all shameful slurs, certainly not the kind of epithet one would ever actively self-identify as.

...but we are no longer back in the day. I'm almost 50. I played red- and blue- box D&D when I was 9 or 10. Nerd is no longer a pejorative because we took over the world.

That's a quaint interpretation, but I disagree. The n-word didn't cease to be a pejorative in the US when we had a black president.

African-Americans use the n-word (spelled slightly differently if you want to be technical) to refer to themselves, but it is still not acceptable for white American to use it, and these two circumstances are not contradictory. In contrast, I know of no self-described nerds who would object to non-nerds calling us that. So your analogy isn't quite appropriate.

You are welcome to your opinion. I have been able to work through and let go of the pain of my childhood trauma, as have many other nerds. We have been raising nerd children for decades. They will have their own pain, of course, but need shame is much lower on the list.

Yeah, I should probably walk that one back a little. It's really not fair to compare a childhood taunt to a vile racist slur redolent of hundreds of years of oppression that persists to this day. Looking back at that comparison, I'm feeling a bit ashamed of myself. 

And I agree that the word "nerd" has indeed been reclaimed somewhat. Even back in the '80s we had movies like Real Genius and Revenge of the Nerds that celebrated young people who sought education for its own sake. Then, during the tech boom of the late '90s, "the nerds inherit the Earth" became a popular trope. Apparently, everybody loves you so long as you're putting money in their hands. Nowadays, everybody loves their smartphones, video games and adolescent power fantasies, and visionary "nerd" CEOs are the heroes of our economy.

You and I are at the age where we can laugh it off if somebody were to call us a "nerd." But for a kid, it's hurtful to be called by any name that ostracizes them from the group. It's not even about the name itself, it's about being targeted for ridicule. The kids with the athletic skills, the good looks, the money and the social skills will always be more popular than the one who studies hard and cultivates a range of non-mainstream interests.

Our culture is changing with respect to technology. Despite the prevalence of tech, we're currently in the midst of an anti-intellectual backlash. Most kids aren't "nerds" in the same sense that you and I were in our youth. Today's children have never known a time without ubiquitous Internet and mobile devices. To them, being connected online is roughly analogous to what television and the regular ol' land line telephone was to us in our youth. When we had the opportunity to get our hands on computers, we couldn't wait to fiddle around, learn programming, and make them do what we wanted. But unlike our generation, today's kids take them for granted. They're mostly passive consumers instead of tech hobbyists.

I suppose that's why I still find it pandering and annoying to hear "nerd" turned into a marketing term to hawk mainstream movies, TV shows and videogames. Maybe I'm just getting old and crotchety.
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