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Title: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 13, 2009, 05:03:44 PM
Anyone interested in DNA analysis and what it can tell us about Bigfoot (spoiler: science hasn't found any valid Bigfoot DNA yet) might enjoy this new podcast by myself, Ben Radford (of Skeptical Inquirer) and Dr. Karen Stollznow (a skepchick and the notorious self-proclaimed SkepBitch).

Website: http://www.monstertalk.org (http://www.monstertalk.org)

Feed Link: http://monstertalk.org/wordpress/?feed=podcast (http://monstertalk.org/wordpress/?feed=podcast)

Here endeth the shameless self-promotion.

It's our first effort.  Be gentle.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 13, 2009, 05:28:30 PM
DLing now through iTunes!

Good luck!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Drosophila on July 13, 2009, 05:38:32 PM
I'll just finish up listening to the audio recording of I, Robot, and I'll be listening in. :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: I Doubt It on July 13, 2009, 08:08:55 PM
I'll also be checking in. Best wishes to you on this. This is a great idea and I will DEFINITELY be providing feedback . I'm always looking for more content to appear on Monsterscience because the kids need somewhere reasonable to go for their school reports on monsters.

I'm going to facebook friend you... watch for me (Sharon Hill)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Gridane on July 13, 2009, 10:02:31 PM
Just listened to it and I liked it. The interview was very long so the guest had plenty of time to explain a lot of interesting things like the workings of DNA analysis and his experiences with bigfoot tv shows.

You have to work on the audio quality though. Throughout the show there was some pretty annoying background noice that varied in level but was there for almost all the time (at least on the mp3 provided).

I didn't find the podcast on iTunes so please add it there when you can. It would be much more accessible that way.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 14, 2009, 12:35:57 AM

I didn't find the podcast on iTunes so please add it there when you can. It would be much more accessible that way.

Just copy his feed link and paste into "Subscribe to podcast" under "Advanced" in iTunes.

Then hit refresh at the lower right when in the podacasts tab.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on July 14, 2009, 12:55:41 AM
Sounds really interesting! I'm looking forward to listen to this new podcast!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JamesTate on July 14, 2009, 02:14:05 AM
I'm liking it so far.

Obvious. Audio quality like coherence and there background static. But I like it.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on July 14, 2009, 02:39:00 AM
Im afraid theres a huge problem with this podcast...

Theres no more for me to listen to yet! ;D


First episode was good listening, subject was good, interviewee was good, style was pretty good, etc. Once you get the audio and editing nailed down it'll be awesome.

How frequently are you anticipating getting out episodes?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 14, 2009, 07:44:13 AM
Im afraid theres a huge problem with this podcast...

Theres no more for me to listen to yet! ;D


First episode was good listening, subject was good, interviewee was good, style was pretty good, etc. Once you get the audio and editing nailed down it'll be awesome.

How frequently are you anticipating getting out episodes?
We'd like to do 2/month.  We'll see. :)

Thanks for all the feedback folks!  (We'll definitely work on the sound quality!)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 14, 2009, 02:39:03 PM

I didn't find the podcast on iTunes so please add it there when you can. It would be much more accessible that way.

Just copy his feed link and paste into "Subscribe to podcast" under "Advanced" in iTunes.

Then hit refresh at the lower right when in the podacasts tab.

Thanks EE.  They say it will be up on itunes in about 48 hours. 
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on July 14, 2009, 02:43:09 PM
It's already up. Otherwise I've downloaded something with the exact same name as MonsterTalk, which would be rather embarrassing.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 14, 2009, 09:34:26 PM
Other than the disparity between hosts and guest audio.. the podcast was SUPERB!

I loved hearing how a scientist worked with DNA!

Thank you!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JamesTate on July 14, 2009, 09:41:56 PM
I finished it, and it made me back to think that there is no big foot once again.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Karyn on July 15, 2009, 03:33:34 PM
So you, Ben and Karen are all the hosts?  I finally met Karen at TAM this year, and I've known Ben for a few years.  Any podcast he's on, I will surely give a listen to.  I just can't do it from my work computer, so it will be a few weeks.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 15, 2009, 11:00:23 PM
So you, Ben and Karen are all the hosts?  I finally met Karen at TAM this year, and I've known Ben for a few years.  Any podcast he's on, I will surely give a listen to.  I just can't do it from my work computer, so it will be a few weeks.

Yeah - I thought it would be a nice mix.  We've been sharing research with each other for about a year or so.  It's nice to get together and talk monsters.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 16, 2009, 11:39:12 AM
So you, Ben and Karen are all the hosts?  I finally met Karen at TAM this year, and I've known Ben for a few years.  Any podcast he's on, I will surely give a listen to.  I just can't do it from my work computer, so it will be a few weeks.

Yeah - I thought it would be a nice mix.  We've been sharing research with each other for about a year or so.  It's nice to get together and talk monsters.

What about invisible Monsters... like "Shadow People"
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 16, 2009, 07:43:43 PM
So you, Ben and Karen are all the hosts?  I finally met Karen at TAM this year, and I've known Ben for a few years.  Any podcast he's on, I will surely give a listen to.  I just can't do it from my work computer, so it will be a few weeks.

Yeah - I thought it would be a nice mix.  We've been sharing research with each other for about a year or so.  It's nice to get together and talk monsters.

What about invisible Monsters... like "Shadow People"

Absolutely we're interested in Shadow People.  That's one of the few Monsters I've seen for myself first-hand.  (Don't want to spoil the episode so no story for now...)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on July 18, 2009, 10:37:12 PM
Finally listened. Great stuff. The sound quality is a bit uneven but then the sound quality in my podcast usually sucks too. Sound quality has to get really bad before people tune out. Anyway, wow. Lots of great hosts and a great guest. I watch that Monster Quest and mostly just hang my head in shame. I'm glad you guys got on a guest to clear up the one claim about the DNA from the screw board ep of Monster Quests.

Can't wait for the next ep.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 19, 2009, 12:20:11 AM
The DNA testing part was my favorite part.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Ep#002 - Patterson-Gimlin
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 27, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
Episode #002 is up.  I don't want to clutter up the SGU's board w/ this kind of post but hopefully they won't mind one little thread.  (Plus I plug 'em in the ep.)

http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=89 (http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=89)

Episode #002 discusses the "Patterson-Gimlin" film.  And I think we got "most" of the audio issues cleared up.  It certainly sounds better to me.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on July 27, 2009, 11:50:25 AM
If we're talking about the Skeptiko podcast episode after episode, we can do it for the Monster Talk one for sure... ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on July 28, 2009, 10:48:12 AM
Good work, sounds a lot better.

One thing I find hard to believe is that no-one has re-created the video. Really?

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 28, 2009, 12:46:18 PM
I can't remember if I left it in or not but we got off on a tangent about what - if anything - would be the value of re-producing it.  There have been several "re-creations" but it was obvious that none of them had studied the film or read any criticisms of it.  Their costumes were laughable.

BUT, according to Ben Radford, even if the re-creation was stunning in its accuracy the true believer would not be moved by such evidence.  If you can overlook the deceptions about the dates and times, etc...

Well - it's a lot of spend for little return...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: SQ the ΣΛ/IGMд on July 28, 2009, 12:56:30 PM
Excellent idea.
I used to watch monster quest in hopes they'd find something that has yet to be documented in the species books.  But at the end of every episode they say the same damn thing, "There is insufficient evidence to prove or disprove the existence of..."

I stopped watching.
Will you be doing something on Chupacabra in the future?
That legend is classic.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Dionysus on July 28, 2009, 01:31:18 PM
But at the end of every episode they say the same damn thing, "There is insufficient evidence to prove or disprove the existence of..."

What a disingenuous statement as well.  What exactly would constitute evidence for the non-existence of something?  Challenging people to prove a negative is a favored tactic of true believers and a pet peeve of mine.

Anyway, I'll definitely give this podcast a listen.  It seems these monster myths are the most widespread and believed fairy tales of all besides religion.  I welcome any attempt to inject some basic skepticism into the field of cryptozoology (is this an actual scientific field?).
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: jedischooldropout on July 28, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
....cryptozoology (is this an actual scientific field?).

A cursory look found no degree programs in cryptozoology.

It's hard to call it an out-right non-science as there are occasional findings of previously unknown/unproven cryptids.  But the scientists who make these findings self-identify as biologists, zoologists, anthropologists (in the case of Homo Floresiensis) and so on.  Fair enough - as soon as a cryptozoological specimen is genuinely discovered it immediately graduates to being zoological.

Dr. Bernard Heuvelmans, the generally accepted 'father of cryptozoology' was a zoologist by education.  I don't know how many other genuine scientists call themselves cryptozoologists.  Probably not many.  I suspect it skewers credibility in the blink of an eye.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 28, 2009, 02:12:30 PM
Good Job on this one! And the little audio-clips in between remind me of WNYC's RadioLab.

Hurry up with number 3!

OH! Look Up Charlie Carlson.. he may make a good guest. He's the author of "Weird Florida". - Lots of cool crap down here in the south.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: jedischooldropout on July 28, 2009, 04:03:44 PM
RadioLab...

That is high praise.  One of the best radio shows ever.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 28, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
RadioLab...

That is high praise.  One of the best radio shows ever.

They have the advantage of asking a college class to edit their audio. But it is really REALLY cool.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: I Doubt It on July 28, 2009, 07:14:34 PM

A cursory look found no degree programs in cryptozoology.

It's hard to call it an out-right non-science as there are occasional findings of previously unknown/unproven cryptids.  But the scientists who make these findings self-identify as biologists, zoologists, anthropologists (in the case of Homo Floresiensis) and so on.  Fair enough - as soon as a cryptozoological specimen is genuinely discovered it immediately graduates to being zoological.

Dr. Bernard Heuvelmans, the generally accepted 'father of cryptozoology' was a zoologist by education.  I don't know how many other genuine scientists call themselves cryptozoologists.  Probably not many.  I suspect it skewers credibility in the blink of an eye.

Loren Coleman rejoices when kids ask "How can I be a CRYPTOZOOLOGIST?" He gushes about the all the time. It's sad because I believe these folks think there might come a day for that. I would bet you can get a paper that calls you one from one of those odd internet unaccredited university. In fact,

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_tc_G31WB2gY/Sm-ETxYxnoI/AAAAAAAAB84/_PNQ4GR-I_M/s400/diploma.jpg)

So, lookie there. I has an edumacation.

There are a few like Drs. Shuker, Coleman, Meldrum, Chad Arment, etc. who call themselves cryptozoologists but it's a self-imposed title. Actually, you ought to have a degree in folklore and biology to call yourself one.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: ivenson on July 28, 2009, 10:06:28 PM
Atlantis....PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE keep doing this podcast.  The difference in audio quality and editing between 1 & 2 was night and day.  Plus, I love a show that gives me all of the thrill I remember from being 8 years old and watching In Search Of, but without the lobotomy that would be necessary to enjoy it at this stage of my life. 

You have put together 2+ really solid hours of podcasting.  I hope your enthusiasm stays high and your show lasts as long as the SGU.....

Well Done!!!!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 29, 2009, 12:01:28 AM
You have put together 2+ really solid hours of podcasting.  I hope your enthusiasm stays high and your show lasts as long as the SGU.....

Well Done!!!!

Thanks!  This is the only currency we deal in.  And now you're all paid up. ;)

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 29, 2009, 12:04:44 AM
There are a few like Drs. Shuker, Coleman, Meldrum, Chad Arment, etc. who call themselves cryptozoologists but it's a self-imposed title. Actually, you ought to have a degree in folklore and biology to call yourself one.

I got my education the same way Bigfoot communicates: Hard Knocks.

Now that's esoterica.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on July 29, 2009, 09:44:37 AM
Just finished ep 2. Is over night sensation too strong a term? Slather for more.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 29, 2009, 11:20:13 PM
Just finished ep 2. Is over night sensation too strong a term? Slather for more.
You're too kind!  Thanks!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 31, 2009, 11:23:57 AM
Check this out.

A couple years ago they spotted a "Bigfoot" in Las Vegas.

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/EvilEyeMonster/bigfoorinlv.jpg)

So I was skeptical, and noticed something.

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/EvilEyeMonster/myhorsebigfoot.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/EvilEyeMonster/myhorsebigfoot2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/EvilEyeMonster/bigfoothorse.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: I Doubt It on July 31, 2009, 10:04:42 PM
That's remarkably similar. When I squint, it looks exactly alike except for the space between the neck and front leg.

The landscape in photo 1 looks very large compared to the figure. Photoshopped?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 31, 2009, 10:19:22 PM
That's remarkably similar. When I squint, it looks exactly alike except for the space between the neck and front leg.

The landscape in photo 1 looks very large compared to the figure. Photoshopped?

The horse is mine.

I'm not suggesting that it is actually a horse in the Bigfoot video still, but that it is an alternate answer.

Falsifying the demanded answer.

ETA: In the original... it could be the animal's rear leg.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: I Doubt It on July 31, 2009, 10:26:05 PM
Oh, I see that point of view too. It's a good explanation.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on July 31, 2009, 10:28:16 PM
It's really hard to turn the horse back into a bigfoot after you know what it is.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 02, 2009, 01:24:26 AM
It's always nice to know what a "BlobSquatch" really is - but I don't think you can prove the existence of horses with flimsy evidence like this.  If horses are real then where are the bones!?

What's that?  In my Jello?  Seriously?

Nevermind then.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 02, 2009, 01:30:26 AM
Check this out.

A couple years ago they spotted a "Bigfoot" in Las Vegas.

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/EvilEyeMonster/bigfoorinlv.jpg)

That's so weird anyway.  If we assumed the "scale" were accurate both in the photo and in Bigfoot legends wouldn't that mean that the "bigfoot loping up the hill" would be around 7 feet tall - and consequently that patch of grass would be like 14 feet tall?  Do they have any 14 foot tall grass growing out in the desert near Las Vegas?  I sure didn't see any last time I went through there.

Where did this photo come from?  Google's clogged up with Biscardi and the Georgia Bigfoot hoax when I try to search on Vegas and Bigfoot.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: syameese on August 02, 2009, 05:13:49 AM
Just finished ep 2. Is over night sensation too strong a term? Slather for more.

Well said, my new fvt podcast. 
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on August 02, 2009, 05:18:17 AM
What I really like about Monster Talk is that it's to the point.

When I listen to skeptical podcasts, at the end of the day I'm kinda annoyed that so much time it's NOT about the fortean phenomenas. It's like listening to the SGU and having Phil Plait talking about Deaths from the Sky or listining to Skepticality and having an episode about the fossil record...

I mean, too often skeptical podcasts are too much just... science podcasts...

At least with Monster Talk, when you start the episode, you know that they're gonna talk about cryptozoology. ;D

I love it, just for that... well, and also because the hosts are really cool of course...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on August 02, 2009, 06:38:59 AM

Where did this photo come from?  Google's clogged up with Biscardi and the Georgia Bigfoot hoax when I try to search on Vegas and Bigfoot.

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_114251.asp?imgID=21522 (http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_114251.asp?imgID=21522)

http://www.silverstatechronicles.com/wordpress/news/bigfoot-near-las-vegas (http://www.silverstatechronicles.com/wordpress/news/bigfoot-near-las-vegas)

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 02, 2009, 05:37:31 PM

Where did this photo come from?  Google's clogged up with Biscardi and the Georgia Bigfoot hoax when I try to search on Vegas and Bigfoot.

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_114251.asp?imgID=21522 (http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_114251.asp?imgID=21522)

http://www.silverstatechronicles.com/wordpress/news/bigfoot-near-las-vegas (http://www.silverstatechronicles.com/wordpress/news/bigfoot-near-las-vegas)

Wow.  "It coulda been a horse, but when you look at it you just think Patterson Film."  Nice.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 16, 2009, 07:35:22 PM
Episode #003 is up - Sea-Monsters, Sharks, Plesiosaurs, Fossil-Footprints of giant humanoids, Evolution and Young-Earth Creationism.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on August 16, 2009, 09:27:49 PM
Episode #003 is up - Sea-Monsters, Sharks, Plesiosaurs, Fossil-Footprints of giant humanoids, Evolution and Young-Earth Creationism.

DLed ready for tomorrow. THANKS!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 17, 2009, 01:19:27 AM
Episode #003 is up - Sea-Monsters, Sharks, Plesiosaurs, Fossil-Footprints of giant humanoids, Evolution and Young-Earth Creationism.

DLed ready for tomorrow. THANKS!

Longer answer to your twitter question:  Ben was running late to the call so we started the pre-interview bit late and I couldn't find a good breaking point in the conversation to do my usual 15 - 20 second intro bit.  So I did - what was it? - something like 2 mins in.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on August 17, 2009, 05:47:22 AM
Episode #003 is up - Sea-Monsters, Sharks, Plesiosaurs, Fossil-Footprints of giant humanoids, Evolution and Young-Earth Creationism.

DLed ready for tomorrow. THANKS!

Longer answer to your twitter question:  Ben was running late to the call so we started the pre-interview bit late and I couldn't find a good breaking point in the conversation to do my usual 15 - 20 second intro bit.  So I did - what was it? - something like 2 mins in.

Yeah. I heard it soon after I tweeted. I had shut it off because I was fighting with the noise of the television.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 17, 2009, 10:28:12 AM

Yeah. I heard it soon after I tweeted. I had shut it off because I was fighting with the noise of the television.
But you were STILL right because I forgot to introduce the show.  :P  I need to go back in and patch it up.  I think I fixed all the breathing issues in this one.

Slowly but surely...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Evil Eye on August 17, 2009, 11:41:11 AM

Yeah. I heard it soon after I tweeted. I had shut it off because I was fighting with the noise of the television.
But you were STILL right because I forgot to introduce the show.  :P  I need to go back in and patch it up.  I think I fixed all the breathing issues in this one.

Slowly but surely...

I'm listening now and it sounds GREAT!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 21, 2009, 05:23:20 PM
OK - I fixed episode #003 - and it now conforms to the "MonsterTalk" Standard format.

Also, I cut a promo for the show in case anyone wants to use it for their own podcast.  Hopefully it is good for a laugh or two:

http://www.monstertalk.org/shows/MT_PROMO_001.mp3 (http://www.monstertalk.org/shows/MT_PROMO_001.mp3)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on August 22, 2009, 04:13:14 AM
OK - I fixed episode #003 - and it now conforms to the "MonsterTalk" Standard format.

Also, I cut a promo for the show in case anyone wants to use it for their own podcast.  Hopefully it is good for a laugh or two:

http://www.monstertalk.org/shows/MT_PROMO_001.mp3 (http://www.monstertalk.org/shows/MT_PROMO_001.mp3)

Oh cool, I'm soooooo gonna use this for my skeptical (French) podcast. ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 30, 2009, 01:00:22 AM
I'm editing episode #004 now but finished up a second promo too.

http://www.monstertalk.org/shows/MT_PROMO_002.mp3 (http://www.monstertalk.org/shows/MT_PROMO_002.mp3)

They're both silly but this is more "work-safe."

On the non-silly side of things Adam Stuart Smith's interview for episode #004 is just completely overstuffed with awesome plesiosaur science.  I'd best get back to work!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 31, 2009, 03:29:04 AM
MonsterTalk episode #004 - The Plesiosaur Hypothesis - is online and ready to go:  http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=164 (http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=164)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on August 31, 2009, 05:24:02 AM
Ok, so i'm a bit late to join the party, downloading now, loading into iPod soon.

Seems like a good show and i'm shure i'll enjoy it. Will report back later.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on August 31, 2009, 08:09:00 PM
Great thing about Monster Talk, no only do you find out about interesting woo but you also learn something about science that has nothing to do with woo.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 04, 2009, 10:04:35 AM
Great thing about Monster Talk, no only do you find out about interesting woo but you also learn something about science that has nothing to do with woo.

Thanks!  And we finally got noticed by cryptomundo.  Loren called us a "stalking horse for CSICOP."

I had to look that up.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on September 04, 2009, 11:30:57 AM
The plesiosaure dinosaure ( ;D ) episode was great!

Keep up the good work.  ;)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on September 04, 2009, 11:07:12 PM
Great thing about Monster Talk, no only do you find out about interesting woo but you also learn something about science that has nothing to do with woo.

Thanks!  And we finally got noticed by cryptomundo.  Loren called us a "stalking horse for CSICOP."

I had to look that up.

Bahhahahaha. Right. You guys go straight to the primary sources, like the scientists doing the published research, and therefore you're CSICOP bum boys. Geez. Isn't he the retard that was fool by a couple hicks with a bigfoot costume in a chest of ice?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Joe B on September 04, 2009, 11:43:19 PM
I could have sworn I already told you guys you are awesome in this thread, but I guess not. Awesome podcast.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on September 05, 2009, 04:57:37 AM
After listening to it i have to agree, awesome!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on September 05, 2009, 03:47:36 PM
Great thing about Monster Talk, no only do you find out about interesting woo but you also learn something about science that has nothing to do with woo.


Agreed. The latest one was so chock full of interesting stuff that I forgot that it was supposed to be about dear old Nessie. Glad to hear that you convinced the good doctor that you weren't YEC's.

Dudes, keep it up.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on September 06, 2009, 10:13:36 AM
Great thing about Monster Talk, no only do you find out about interesting woo but you also learn something about science that has nothing to do with woo.


Agreed. The latest one was so chock full of interesting stuff that I forgot that it was supposed to be about dear old Nessie. Glad to hear that you convinced the good doctor that you weren't YEC's.

Dudes, keep it up.

I'm sure the poor scientist gets the cranks all the time and basically assumes you're guilty until proven innocent. Geez, today I just got an email from a guy who I thought was claiming there was a conspiracy to keep fuel saving devices from the public. Luckily I didn't flame him :) I just asked "hmmm what's the % saving?" He then responded "yeah I don't know. The guy making the claim never says". Doh. He was just suggesting a topic about people who make this claim.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 06, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
Thanks so much!  I will pass these comments along to Radford and Stollzknow.  Weird dilema today - had to pick between taking Joe Nickell to airport on Tuesday and interviewing one of the world's leading Pterosaur experts...

Good problem to have, I suppose.

Sorry Joe!  I hate to make you take a cab.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 11, 2009, 11:59:17 AM
Sad but true: ended up having to postpone the scheduled interview because nobody was available to pick up Joe and take him to the airport.

Upon arriving to pick up Joe a mysterious person known only as "Crash" had already picked him up?

Next episode of MonsterTalk likely to be out 2 weeks from now.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on September 11, 2009, 12:06:26 PM
Sad but true: ended up having to postpone the scheduled interview because nobody was available to pick up Joe and take him to the airport.

Upon arriving to pick up Joe a mysterious person known only as "Crash" had already picked him up?

Next episode of MonsterTalk likely to be out 2 weeks from now.

Booo!!!!! Can't wait that long! No fair!

Will absence make the heart grow fonder?  ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 11, 2009, 12:28:12 PM
I've been considering doing a "news" bit and putting into the feed and calling it "MonsterChat" where it's just me talking about monsters in the news.  It would be short, like the 5x5 podcast but at least it would fill in while we wait to line up our next awesome guests.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on September 11, 2009, 12:42:07 PM
Seems a good idea to me, especially with a lot of news about monsters, like the Google Nessie and other stuff.

I was expecting to have your take on that one, for exemple.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on September 11, 2009, 12:51:02 PM
More monster talk more better.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 15, 2009, 11:48:52 PM
Alright - I have started MonsterNews - a micropodcast within the same feed as MonsterTalk.

http://tinyurl.com/MonsterNews001 (http://tinyurl.com/MonsterNews001)


Let me know what you think.

PS - I have a cold
PPS - Yes, I was being snarky as hell in that last story.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on September 16, 2009, 11:41:27 AM
I liked your news theme music, doc.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 19, 2009, 12:30:11 AM
Special Edition - MonsterNews
 (http://bit.ly/SlothInMedia)

Ridicule + Facts = hopefully useful podcast
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 28, 2009, 12:20:22 PM
http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=207 (http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=207)

New MonsterNews - Muck Monsters and Google Nessie
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 01, 2009, 12:45:22 AM
I have lined up our next two guests and something big is happening with MT but I can't talk about it yet.  October surprise. ;)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on October 01, 2009, 05:28:45 AM
We like surprises!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 12, 2009, 01:05:41 PM
OK - new episode about Pterosaurs and the Ropen is online:
http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=216 (http://www.monstertalk.org/wordpress/?p=216)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on October 12, 2009, 05:15:50 PM
Another great episode and further evidence paleontologists really need to be given the microphone more often. SGU had the bird-dino guy a few eps back and you guys have had a couple paleontologists on now.  These guys always have really interesting stuff to say, they talk a lot, and you learn a lot.

And I like how you guys dog Monster Quest. You see a lot of stuff on that show and you go "ummmm I know they've left a lot on the cutting room floor but what?"

Creationists like to claim dragon legends describe actual dinosaurs and they went extinct due to over hunting. A completely bizarre claim and one wonders why for all the dino hunting, no one has ever found evidence a king kept trophies. You'd think bringing down a T Rex kings would want those teeth in their crowns or buried with them.

If I can make a suggestion, can you do an ep about the aquatic ape? Not a monster per se.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 12, 2009, 09:10:29 PM
Another great episode and further evidence paleontologists really need to be given the microphone more often. SGU had the bird-dino guy a few eps back and you guys have had a couple paleontologists on now.  These guys always have really interesting stuff to say, they talk a lot, and you learn a lot.

And I like how you guys dog Monster Quest. You see a lot of stuff on that show and you go "ummmm I know they've left a lot on the cutting room floor but what?"

Creationists like to claim dragon legends describe actual dinosaurs and they went extinct due to over hunting. A completely bizarre claim and one wonders why for all the dino hunting, no one has ever found evidence a king kept trophies. You'd think bringing down a T Rex kings would want those teeth in their crowns or buried with them.

If I can make a suggestion, can you do an ep about the aquatic ape? Not a monster per se.

Thanks! 

We're going to end up talking about creationism a lot more than I ever expected.  I expect we could get Genie Scott on at some point to discuss this. 

I agree the aquatic apes theory is one where I have a lot of questions that this format is great for.  But I don't know if I can stretch that into the "monster" heading.

Once I win the lottery of course I'll have time to do multiple podcasts like Leo Laporte does.  Then I can do a Skeptics Coffee Table podcast and interview whoever the heck I want with a panel of skeptics. :)

Now what were my lucky numbers???
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on October 13, 2009, 09:00:08 AM
I agree the aquatic apes theory is one where I have a lot of questions that this format is great for.  But I don't know if I can stretch that into the "monster" heading.

You could look at it this way. You're doing a lot of shows on cryptids ("a creature whose existence has been suggested but lacks scientific support"). But it seems to me there's a whole branch of extinct cryptids, like the aquatic ape and giants.

http://www.newanimal.org/extinct.htm (http://www.newanimal.org/extinct.htm)

And given how great some of your paleontologist guests are... why not some real extinct monsters like that megashark (I gather the only fossil evidence is just giant teeth), giant ant eaters, that giant terror bird with the razor hook beak, etc. We all know the dinosaurs but there are some pretty monster-like mammals that are long extinct that we don't get much press on the Discover channel (recently renamed Dyscovyr) and I'm sure there's a dozen dusty old paleontologist who would love to get on a podcast and talk about these monsters.

From that link above there's also the whole "out of place" "monsters" like the Michigan panther or the panther sightings in the UK. Gators in the sewers, also.

http://www.newanimal.org/out-placed.htm (http://www.newanimal.org/out-placed.htm)

Sorry... I get so excited about this show I almost want to write it for you :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 14, 2009, 12:09:26 AM
I agree the aquatic apes theory is one where I have a lot of questions that this format is great for.  But I don't know if I can stretch that into the "monster" heading.

You could look at it this way. You're doing a lot of shows on cryptids ("a creature whose existence has been suggested but lacks scientific support"). But it seems to me there's a whole branch of extinct cryptids, like the aquatic ape and giants.

http://www.newanimal.org/extinct.htm (http://www.newanimal.org/extinct.htm)

And given how great some of your paleontologist guests are... why not some real extinct monsters like that megashark (I gather the only fossil evidence is just giant teeth), giant ant eaters, that giant terror bird with the razor hook beak, etc. We all know the dinosaurs but there are some pretty monster-like mammals that are long extinct that we don't get much press on the Discover channel (recently renamed Dyscovyr) and I'm sure there's a dozen dusty old paleontologist who would love to get on a podcast and talk about these monsters.

From that link above there's also the whole "out of place" "monsters" like the Michigan panther or the panther sightings in the UK. Gators in the sewers, also.

http://www.newanimal.org/out-placed.htm (http://www.newanimal.org/out-placed.htm)

Sorry... I get so excited about this show I almost want to write it for you :)

(Me too! on that last bit.  I get very excited about it.)

I like this angle.

I have a ton of plans - the most difficult part is getting the right guests.  I don't think I've made it much of a secret that my goal is to get as much good science out there as possible: effectively making the inverse of the typical Monster-Documentary. I'd like a 90-95% science with a 5% mystery content.  In general.

But we're going to try and talk w/ believers at some point.  And that in itself is a spectrum with  very science-ish people on one end who happen to think there could be mystery apes and the like - all the way over to Beckjord-style Multi-dimensional Bigfooters.

I'm really glad you like the show.

BTW - I've contributed a Halloween story to the Amateur Scientist podcast so you'll (hopefully) get to hear a little bit about how I became the weirdo that I am today.

As for Megaladon - yeah that's within my parameters.  My monster parameters includes ghosts, grays, goblins, ghouls, gremlins, ghasts, gargoyles - and that's just some of the G's.

Ben wants to do one on Coelacanth - and I am in agreement on that.

And I want to do one on The Kraken/Giant Squid since that is one that I always assumed would turn out to be real - and has become well verified in my lifetime. 

We're going to work on getting a more regular schedule for releases soon - but that's all I can say about our upcoming announcement at the end of October.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rai on October 14, 2009, 04:03:31 AM
The Megalodon would be interesting, but thre is a wee issue: it is not really a "cryptid". It became popular with the cryptozoology crowd after the Meg books of Steve Alten, but no-one has ever claimed to see, film or photograph it, not even in a blobsquatch form. Some people say that it might have survived in a ridiculous way (incidentally, the same way as in the books), and that's.

You should do one on Rex Gilroy's cryptozoology-related lunacies too, maybe get hold of an expert on Dreamtime, which would be just awesome :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on October 15, 2009, 12:29:02 AM
hey Doc, do you know this book: "Min Min Light"?

http://www.owlpages.com/articles.php?section=Product+Reviews&title=Min+Min (http://www.owlpages.com/articles.php?section=Product+Reviews&title=Min+Min)

That guy tries to explaign the min min light phenomena with glowing owls...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: whitedevilbrewing on October 15, 2009, 01:04:56 AM
Gonna give this a listen, sorry I didn't before :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 15, 2009, 09:48:40 AM
hey Doc, do you know this book: "Min Min Light"?

http://www.owlpages.com/articles.php?section=Product+Reviews&title=Min+Min (http://www.owlpages.com/articles.php?section=Product+Reviews&title=Min+Min)

That guy tries to explaign the min min light phenomena with glowing owls...

I was familiar with the theory of the bio-luminescent owl - but didn't know it was being tauted as a possible explanation for the Min Min Lights.

I'd be more inclined to think the lights were from mirages as outlined in this study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12643807?dopt=Abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12643807?dopt=Abstract)

and in Brian Dunning's Skeptoid podcast:
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4133 (http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4133)

But the owl theory - and even bioluminescent owls in general - seem like quite a stretch.  When you consider that the owl's big advantage over its prey is that it can see very well in the dark with it's big eyes, an owl species that glows seems like it would be detrimental to both its own ability to see in the dark, and counter-intuitive to a stealth-attack mode that keeps most owls so well fed?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on October 15, 2009, 11:42:23 PM
I agree that bio-luminescent owls is quite a strech, especially because it has never been seen in captivity.

But you could maybe try to interview that guy. He has a lot to say on the subject and on the Min Min Light. I read his book and it was really interesting, even if I was unconvince by his argument for bio-luminescent owls...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 16, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
I agree that bio-luminescent owls is quite a strech, especially because it has never been seen in captivity.

But you could maybe try to interview that guy. He has a lot to say on the subject and on the Min Min Light. I read his book and it was really interesting, even if I was unconvince by his argument for bio-luminescent owls...

I will put him in the list. (We do have a list.) :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DVMKurmes on October 16, 2009, 10:08:12 PM
I've been enjoying listening to the episodes as well, and I agree that the last guest talking about pterosaurs was really good. I have had the chance to work with some paleontologists and they are almost always interesting people to talk with. You really have to know a lot of biology as well as geology to be a successful paleontologist. Also good at critically evaluating sometimes scanty evidence.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 25, 2009, 12:25:12 PM
We're interviewing a genetics expert today - and we have a Werewolf episode in the can.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on October 26, 2009, 11:22:33 AM
We're interviewing a genetics expert today - and we have a Werewolf episode in the can.

Werewolf?

There wolf. There castle.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on October 28, 2009, 09:16:57 AM
Some monster talk:

The most recent Skepticality appears to be interviewing the hosts. Didn't get a real close look this morning as I was downloading it.

Skeptoid does a segment on Bloop.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 29, 2009, 10:28:49 AM
Some monster talk:

The most recent Skepticality appears to be interviewing the hosts.

Yep - we announced our partnership with Skeptic Magazine yesterday.  We're not hosting our site with Skeptic and in about a week I'll be setting monstertalk.org to redirect to Skeptic's MonsterTalk content.

It was very fun being interviewed by Skepticality - though I was pretty much hopped up on the Nyquil-train.  Listening to it later I noticed all the "uhs" and "you knows" that I do much better suppressing when not riding the vick's horse.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on October 29, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
Some monster talk:

The most recent Skepticality appears to be interviewing the hosts.

Yep - we announced our partnership with Skeptic Magazine yesterday.  We're not hosting our site with Skeptic and in about a week I'll be setting monstertalk.org to redirect to Skeptic's MonsterTalk content.

It was very fun being interviewed by Skepticality - though I was pretty much hopped up on the Nyquil-train.  Listening to it later I noticed all the "uhs" and "you knows" that I do much better suppressing when not riding the vick's horse.

Ah cool! I thought it was about you guys but I still haven't listened (really, that's next after quackcast) so I didn't want to say either way.

Brian also does a great job, I thought, with Bloop.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: cerveauxfrits on October 29, 2009, 11:41:14 AM
I just ran into a couple blips while trying to get subscribed in iTunes via the new site.  (I wasn't able to get to the old one, it looks like the redirect to Skeptic's content is already in place.)

I couldn't subscribe using the iTunes link from the page hosted on Skeptic.com (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/), nor could I subscribe through the iTunes Music Store.  In both cases, I got an error saying that the feed isn't available through the USA store.

Next I tried subscribing through the RSS link on the same page (http://www.skeptic.com/feed (http://www.skeptic.com/feed)), which supposedly includes the podcast in addition to eSkeptic.  iTunes gave another error complaining that the feed didn't contain any playable content.

Third time around I used the feed provided in the first post of this thread. That one seems to have worked.  First episode is currently downloading . . . trying to be patient. . .

& congratulations on the partnership!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 29, 2009, 03:15:59 PM
Itunes is FIXED - and we're #13 on Natural Sciences!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on November 01, 2009, 07:19:53 AM
Had a bit of a problem with the new feed through iTunes. Deleted the old podcast and re-subscribing seemed to have done the trick though.

What? No reviews? I'll have to see what I can do about that.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 01, 2009, 12:46:42 PM
My understanding is that itunes reviews are key to podcast prominence within the itunes app.  To that end I will try and remember to pander for itunes reviews.  (Preferably positive ones.) :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on November 02, 2009, 09:04:57 AM
More monster talk:

Dr Atlantis is on the spooktacular episode of amateur scientist telling us about the case of the disembodied hand. Really funny stuff.

http://www.amateurscientist.org/2009/10/amateur-scientist-halloween.html (http://www.amateurscientist.org/2009/10/amateur-scientist-halloween.html)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 02, 2009, 02:54:32 PM
More monster talk:

Dr Atlantis is on the spooktacular episode of amateur scientist telling us about the case of the disembodied hand. Really funny stuff.

http://www.amateurscientist.org/2009/10/amateur-scientist-halloween.html (http://www.amateurscientist.org/2009/10/amateur-scientist-halloween.html)

Glad you enjoyed that true, true story.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on November 11, 2009, 08:54:02 AM
MT appears to be on a different itunes feed. I had to delete my MT feed and resub via itunes to get the latest ep about the werewolf.

Another fine show. Again, digging behind the headlines. I read the science daily w/up about darwin killed the werewolf. And bam you get the actual author. Good stuff.

I like his caution about narratives. The Econtalk guy always warns about economics can fall into ex-post narratives. "Well, it was a market correction because blah blah." Someone once called it "the narrative fallacy", belief some historical events are contingent, necessary, planned, and justified vs sometimes events are random crap and action was a reaction. The narrative fallacy then leads us to ignore events that don't fit the narrative.

The guest cautioned moderating our narrative about science. I think a lot of scientists used to think Newton was this stone cold logician, a  vulcan devoid of passion, who saw a greater truth by wiping away his superstition. But as it turns out from Newton's letters, he was a huge believer in woo.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 16, 2009, 12:28:06 AM
Yeah - itunes messed up when we switched servers.  Not sure why - we didn't move the feed from feedburner, but it stopped acknowledging updates and we had to get some senior folks at libsyn to talk to some well-placed people at itunes.  Sad that itunes is such a black-box from a tech support perspective.

Anyway, I've finished up the next episode on Genetics, Humanzees, Chupacabras, and alien-human hybrids.

And it answers the important question:  What happens when you're a hermaphrodite having sex with another hermaphrodite and your  parter bites off your penis?

Admittedly that question wasn't on my mind before the interview, but it's nice to know how these things work out in real life. :)

Goes Live Wed.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 18, 2009, 09:17:42 AM
New MonsterTalk up at http://monstertalk.org (http://monstertalk.org) Horrible Hybrids featuring Dr. Steven Jones.
(http://www.skeptic.com/images_topbanners/banner-MonsterTalk.jpg)
Horrifying Hybrids
In this episode (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/007_Monstertalk.mp3), MonsterTalk examines monsters that genetically blend humans with the other. Hosts Blake Smith, Ben Radford, and Dr. Karen Stollznow explore the plausibility of alien-human hybridizations, dig into the real science of genetics — and consider the ethical questions involved.
Weighing in on these issues is Dr. Steven Jones — noted geneticist, teacher, and television presenter. (He is also the author of many books including Darwin’s Ghost, Introducing Genetics, and Coral: A Pessimist in Paradise.)

Did Stalin really want to build an army of gorilla-human hybrids? Is the upright-walking chimp called Oliver really some kind of chimpanzee-human mix? No - but the plausibility of such creatures may surprise you…
(http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-11-18images/Steven-Jones.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Dolomedes on November 18, 2009, 12:10:21 PM
How long does it usually take to actually show up on the web page and in the feeds? There the latest episode is still #6.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Dolomedes on November 18, 2009, 12:43:14 PM
Meanwhile I found it. I have to say, you make it really hard to find the proper feed. When you go to monstertalk.com (and are redirected to skeptic.com), you won't find the correct feed on any of the three MonsterTalk pages. The general feed for skeptic.com, which is linked from there, does not contain MonsterTalk.

So as a public service, here's the correct feed: http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/rss (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/rss)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 18, 2009, 01:46:45 PM
How long does it usually take to actually show up on the web page and in the feeds? There the latest episode is still #6.

Part of the partnership with Skeptic is that I gave them webserver control.  I'll work with their admin and see if we can get this straightend up a bit.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

-DA
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Dolomedes on November 19, 2009, 03:51:34 AM
On a lighter side, the new episode was very interesting, as were the previous ones I've listened to. Way to go!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on November 19, 2009, 09:07:44 AM
Light on the actual monster talk this ep but you had a great guest in hit him with a lot of interesting questions. He was kind of a good primer. "Before you talk monsters, you'll need to know this stuff."
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on November 19, 2009, 10:18:05 AM
You all lose Nerd points. Talking about Australian human/hybrid creatures and no mention of Booga?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 19, 2009, 11:55:29 AM
Light on the actual monster talk this ep but you had a great guest in hit him with a lot of interesting questions. He was kind of a good primer. "Before you talk monsters, you'll need to know this stuff."

True - this was part 1 of what will certainly be a multi-episode topic.  The thing is that genetics figures into so much monster lore I wanted to get a plausibility voice on first before digging in on particular claims.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 19, 2009, 11:56:26 AM
You all lose Nerd points. Talking about Australian human/hybrid creatures and no mention of Booga?

(click to show/hide)

Sad but true - the movie disappointed me so much I never went back and read the comic.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 09, 2009, 08:15:27 AM
(http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/09-12-09/images/philplait.jpg)
Are aliens from another planet visiting Earth? Astronomer and science writer Dr. Phil Plait seems a bit skeptical. In our discussion with Dr. Phil we cover a lot of interesting ideas including:

ALH84001 — what is it and does it prove aliens have come to Earth?
The role of extremophiles in the development of life on Earth?
The ratio of isotopes within a sample can tell us its origin — and what would we expect to see in an extraterrestrial sample?
Do amateur astronomers see more UFOs than average people?
Plus Dr. Plait tells us about his favorite monsters, favorite movies, and favorite paperback. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U0OGPE?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001U0OGPE)

Music

Introductory background music: Alien Alchemy by Man Manly (http://www.musicalley.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=a0e4a96b410b073d76215cf3341f68ad)
MonsterTalk theme: Monster by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://www.musicalley.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on December 15, 2009, 12:16:50 PM
5 million years to earth... that took me back! Yeah the devil thing at the end was pretty damn scary as a child.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 15, 2009, 02:43:26 PM
5 million years to earth... that took me back! Yeah the devil thing at the end was pretty damn scary as a child.

I easily cut out 20 minutes of Phil geeking out about Godzilla and other horror and sci-fi films.  I try to keep MT about the science, but at some point the talk needs to include Monsters of pop culture, not just folklore, myth and hoaxes.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: moj on December 15, 2009, 03:48:11 PM
late to the party and not caught up yet, but am really enjoying these.  I also think this is great for introducing certain people to skepticism. I have friends who are into some new age stuff and probably would not like the SGU, but monster talk is an easy sell and awesome! keep it up.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 15, 2009, 04:22:52 PM
MT thanks you for your patronage!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 12, 2010, 10:44:07 PM
Getting ready to post interview with Dr. Kenny Feder on the topic of Giants and the famous hoax of The Cardiff Giant.

Boy howdy this was a pain to produce - too many errors and glitches to count. <sigh>
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 13, 2010, 11:16:25 AM
January 13th: Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum!
Giants appear in cultures around the world: Biblical tales of giants more than ten feet tall; Roman and Greek stories of titans and heroes; European stories of giants of mountain and hill. They all have one thing in common: enormous monsters.

On this episode of MonsterTalk we chat with archeologist Dr. Ken Feder about giants, biblical archeology — and one of the biggest hoaxes in American history.

In this episode:
 
(http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-01-13images/cardiff-giant.jpg)
Photo by John and Keturah (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnandketurah/) used under a Creative Commons License. (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/)



ORDER the book by Ken Feder (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0073405299?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0073405299)


The bible has stories of races of giants (but also people who lived to be several hundred years old!); Is there any reason to think that people who lived in ancient times were any larger than modern man?
Are humans generally growing shorter or taller over milliennia?
Why do ancient cultures postulate giants?
What evidence would we expect to see if such creatures existed?
From a physiological point of view, what are the advantages and detriments to gigantism?
Gigantism often is implicit in the term “monster,” — almost all monsters are large (Bigfoot, Nessie, etc.) — you don’t really hear about many “monsters” that are only a few feet tall; what do you see as the link between gigantism and monsters?
One of the most famous hoaxes in American history is The Cardiff Giant. Can you give us an overview of that?
Were most scientists fooled by the giant?
Why were so many people treating the Biblical giant-tales as literal truth?
Are there other examples where people have misinterpreted archeological data to infer that it implied Giants?
Does giant architecture imply giant builders?

Interesting link:
A site that seems to promote credulous acceptance of retouched photographic evidence. (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/giants.htm)

Music
Opening Music: Battle of the Stone Giants by Dragon Ritual Drummers (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=73ef4363d88c7bb3000373657a570e52)
Monstertalk Theme: Monster by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on January 14, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
The sounds takes about 3 minutes to accommodate to. And it's totally Ken Feder unleashed. Holy! You hear him on SGU sometimes but it's nice to hear him with space to run. A great ep. I loved how he started talking about a message board guy who says there's evidence of giants, he then goes into about a 15 minute aside to bring you up to speed on the science, and then goes right back to the topic. I seem to recall only Penn could do this on his radio show. Brilliant.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 17, 2010, 03:14:39 PM
The sounds takes about 3 minutes to accommodate to. And it's totally Ken Feder unleashed. Holy! You hear him on SGU sometimes but it's nice to hear him with space to run. A great ep. I loved how he started talking about a message board guy who says there's evidence of giants, he then goes into about a 15 minute aside to bring you up to speed on the science, and then goes right back to the topic. I seem to recall only Penn could do this on his radio show. Brilliant.

He was teh awesome.  Almost cried when I realized what happened to the audio...  Feeling better now.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zalty on January 24, 2010, 06:25:47 AM
Very entertaining.

But I didn't hear the name of his book   :D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on January 25, 2010, 09:20:51 AM
Very entertaining.

But I didn't hear the name of his book   :D

Death from the Skies, I believe.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on January 25, 2010, 09:29:04 AM
Very entertaining.

But I didn't hear the name of his book   :D

Death from the Skies, I believe.

Wasn't it 59 Seconds?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on January 25, 2010, 01:09:36 PM
Very entertaining.

But I didn't hear the name of his book   :D

Death from the Skies, I believe.

Wasn't it 59 Seconds?

I stand corrected.
Title: MonsterTalk #011 - First Impressions (Jimmy Chilcutt)
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on February 03, 2010, 09:49:43 AM
FIRST IMPRESSIONS

This week on MonsterTalk we talk with fingerprint expert and self-described Bigfoot research “cheerleader” Jimmy Chilcutt. Chilcutt, a retired Texas lawman and crime-scene investigator, came to prominence in the Bigfoot community when he joined Dr. Jeff Meldrum in the documentary Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science making the pronouncement that his research had found evidence that some Bigfoot track-castings showed signs of dermal ridges — the equivalent of primate fingerprints. This is the first time we have interviewed someone on the “believer” side of the fence in cryptozoology, though you’ll hear in the interview that what Chilcutt is willing to attest to is somewhat different than the impression you’d get from his TV appearances.

Topics in this episode include:
We also discuss Matt Crowley’s research which shows that it is possible to mimic dermal ridges during the casting process. Crowley’s excellent research is detailed on his website in a series of essays and articles. His work on casting artifacts and the track hoaxing of Ray Wallace should be required reading for Bigfoot researchers.

Resources of Interest
Ben Radford: 50 Years of Bigfoot (http://www.csicop.org/si/show/bigfoot_at_50_evaluating_a_half-century_of_bigfoot_evidence)
Matt Crowley: Bigfoot Research into Casts & Hoaxing (http://orgoneresearch.com/category/bigfoot/)
Skookum Analysis reprinted from Bigfoot Times (http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/skookum_hokum.htm)

Music
Monstertalk Theme: Monster by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)
Celestial Stereogram by Sinfonia Electronique (http://www.musicalley.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=d83835536b5bdb9fa7be35067ff4b7cf)

Subscribe to MonsterTalk on itunes (http://www.skeptic.com/itunes_monstertalk)

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on February 03, 2010, 12:53:25 PM
Oooh, i can't wait! Always love monster talk!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on February 03, 2010, 09:31:56 PM
Another great guest. Following up Feder I guess is a bit like following pets and children. Still. The man came across as being reasonable, knowledgeable, and no real dog in the fight. The whole idea of peer reviewed evidence was unfamiliar to him but otherwise he talked with the measured language of a scientist. Never stating more than the evidence before him. Not willing to make claims or even speculate beyond his area of knowledge. Willing to admit he's ultimately human. He floored me when you guys asked him why there are only three casts with dermal ridges and without thinking he noted "I didn't say there were only three. I've only examined three".

I can see why prosecutors learn not to ask him about the bigfoot stuff. He comes across as a man who approaches any topic evenly, fairly, without preconceived notions. If he can do that about bigfoot, he can do that about crime scene evidence.

At first I was thinking "oh no who is this crank going to be?" but he just seemed genuine. He sees something he can't explain and it seems to fit one possible explanation.

This is a good example where historical science really needs a lot of debate in the literature. Many experts examining the prints suggesting alternatives, testing, etc.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on February 17, 2010, 03:13:19 PM
(http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10-02-17/images/making-of-bigfoot-cover.png)
Direct Link To Audio (http://cdn2.libsyn.com/skeptic/012_Monstertalk.mp3?nvb=20100217185701&nva=20100218190701&t=0075e942b95f8aff220f0)
Author Greg Long discusses his book The Making of Bigfoot (http://"http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591021391?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1591021391") which chronicles his search to get to the bottom of the Patterson-Gimlin film. His findings destroy the image of Roger Patterson as a simple country man looking for Bigfoot at the right place and right time. And it provides at least one plausible answer to the question “What did Patterson film that day in 1967?” Or should we say “Who?”

Long presents a very plausible tale of how two cowboys came to film one of the most controversial pieces of footage in American history.

Music

Monstertalk Theme:
Monster by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://"http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf")
Dirty Little Secret by 54 Seconds (http://"http://www.musicalley.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=18b2ec22b0b8918337d15b90fa695654")

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on February 18, 2010, 11:07:26 AM
I liked how you pointed out lie detector tests don't really tell us anything. Although the guest was a skeptic, you still held that claim to the same standard you might have held a believer who tried to use lie detectors to argue for the truth of a claim.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on February 18, 2010, 02:48:00 PM
We try. :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on February 18, 2010, 03:02:57 PM
Any opinion on the all the expert opinions about the film? One credentialed expert says "fake" another says "no way could they fake this". Any possibility getting  a show on the he says she says debate about the film itself?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on February 18, 2010, 04:33:42 PM
Any opinion on the all the expert opinions about the film? One credentialed expert says "fake" another says "no way could they fake this". Any possibility getting  a show on the he says she says debate about the film itself?

I would like to see a competent fake of this film.  All the "re-creations" I've seen have been with fancy suits and good cameras - kind of misses the bloody point.

No expertise is sufficient to refute or prove either side's position on authority alone, I think.

But I also think it's a hoax.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on February 19, 2010, 09:10:30 AM
It strikes me in science if a researcher is revealed to be a known fraud and liar, his evidence is always suspect. Patterson had a shady past. We should err on the side of hoax with this film.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on February 19, 2010, 03:25:38 PM
http://skepticblog.org/2010/02/11/bigfoot-rears-its-ugly-face/#more-6464 (http://skepticblog.org/2010/02/11/bigfoot-rears-its-ugly-face/#more-6464)

Check out this bigfoot video. Calling it a bad fake would be an understatement.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on February 26, 2010, 02:15:53 PM
Yes, people who mock cryptozoology enthusiasts frequently make the mistake of thinking they're idiots.  That's a non sequitor conclusion. 

Crypto-enthusiasts are very good at spotting bad fakes.  And most of these kind of thigs are amateurs with a storebought suit and a video camera.  They can fool some folks, but there are plenty of people who believe in bigfoot who ALSO think most videos and photos are fakes.

This case was reported & debunked on Cryptomundo.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on February 26, 2010, 02:17:24 PM
We recorded an interview on ghosts (and other stuff) last night with Dr. Steven Novella.  Y'all may have heard of him.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on February 26, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
Doc, do you have a link to the cryptomundo post on the youtube video? I don't follow his blog but a friend seems to and notes he spends a lot of time debunking fakes. I guess when you've been in it as long as he has, you have to get pretty down on the huge number of hoaxes.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on February 28, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
Doc, do you have a link to the cryptomundo post on the youtube video? I don't follow his blog but a friend seems to and notes he spends a lot of time debunking fakes. I guess when you've been in it as long as he has, you have to get pretty down on the huge number of hoaxes.

Sure - here ya go: 
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/scoftic-bighoax/ (http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/scoftic-bighoax/)
Title: MT 013: Interview with Steve Novella re: Ghosts
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 03, 2010, 02:01:42 AM
http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/013_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/013_Monstertalk.mp3)

Show notes tomorrow (or later today).
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: nocturnous on March 03, 2010, 03:42:35 AM
Are you still doing your paranormal state youtube vids? The last one is pretty epically funny. The team of prs talk to a deer in the forest. (thinking it's a demon)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 03, 2010, 09:06:47 AM
It's been a while - but I like doing them.  I keep hoping I'll get "caught up" on projects and have time...

I certainly still keep up with as many of the paranormal shows as I can with that in mind.
Title: Episode #013 - Getting into the Spirit of things
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 03, 2010, 08:13:08 PM
(http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10-03-03/images/novella-goggles-243px.jpg)

LISTEN NOW (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/013_Monstertalk.mp3)

This week on Monstertalk, we begin a multi-episode examination of ghosts. We start at the core of the idea by discussing the plausibility of continued consciousness after death. Our guest is neurologist and skeptical activist, Dr. Steven Novella. Steven is a prolific blogger whose work regularly appears on SkepticBlog.org, NeurologicaBlog, Science Based Medicine and The Rogues Gallery. He is the president of the New England Skeptical Society, and host of the popular Skeptic’s Guide To the Universe podcast as well as the short-form SGU 5x5.

All three hosts of MonsterTalk have conducted ghost investigations. Ghosts are a huge topic, and it will take many episodes to cover this type of phenomena. We begin with a brief discussion of the nomenclature, and some of the strange implications of ghosts in relation to privacy. We will dig much deeper into these issues in future episodes, bringing our own unique experiences to bear on the topics.

In this episode

The terminology of ghost hunting
New England and the culture of “Ghost Country”
The legacy of Ed and Lorraine Warren
The distinction between demons and ghosts
and the impact of religion on ghost belief
The mind as hardware/software
The brain as an antennae for consciousness
Connections between NDE and ghost sightings
The NESS’s own ghost investigations
Many tangential topics including AI, robots and Dungeons & Dragons

Music
Monstertalk Theme: Monster by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)
Haunted by Kelly Cavagnuolo (http://www.musicalley.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=7798ad6eb061265b10e9e33ef8cf7135) (her CD is available at CDBaby.com)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 07, 2010, 06:12:12 PM
Dr. N. was typically awesome. Dr. Atlantis had one of the best quips I've heard on a podcast in a long time. It went something like

(Talking about the problems with the "mind is an antenna" hypothesis of mind)

Dr. N: Nothing I can do to my TV can change a drama into a comedy.

Dr. A: That's beers role.

Words to that effect. I nearly fell off the treadmill when I heard that one.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on March 07, 2010, 07:25:29 PM
Yeah, loved it.

Was a little bit of a change of pace, too - it seemed to have a bit more rambling and off topic discussion getting left in the final result than usual, which was nice. (Not that theres anything wrong with the usual more focused discussion) ((I was disappointed there wasnt more discussion of Karen's roleplaying experience, though ;) :P))
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 07, 2010, 07:56:03 PM
I could have edited down to "on-topic" but thought the extraneous information was interesting, amusing and perhaps shed new light on a fairly public person.

Karl, glad you liked the quip.   ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 08, 2010, 10:09:12 AM
The life of a podcaster can be fairly lonely and when I get people on mine, I can't help but ramble. It's just nice to talk to another human. Yeah, I guess one could edit it out. Still, how often do you get a chance to shoot the shyte with Dr. N especially on a topic that's not about science or skepticism. It would be criminal, I think, to not air that.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on March 09, 2010, 07:51:36 AM
I could have edited down to "on-topic" but thought the extraneous information was interesting, amusing and perhaps shed new light on a fairly public person.

As a RPG player myself, it was great to hear all that stuff from Steven Novella, even if I don't play myself at D&D D20 system (I play at GURPS). I must say I was really surprised.

It was also funny to hear the tone of the voice of Karen Stolznow being annoyed at it, like "hey, kids, come back on topic now". ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 09, 2010, 09:43:39 AM
In Korea and Japan, ghosts traditionally take the form of a young girl with her hair all kind of brushed forward. Basically the girl from the Japanese version of The Ring. I found belief in ghosts to be a tightly and widely held belief in Korea, right up there with fan death.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 09, 2010, 10:58:30 PM
...right up there with fan death.

I never ordered a Korean bride.  Probably never will.
But if I ordered a Korean bride, I'd have to make sure she didn't believe in fan death.
I can't sleep without a fan blowing on me.  (Or at least I prefer not to.)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 10, 2010, 10:19:35 AM
Yeah, I'm big into having a fan going. Well, in the dead of Canadian winter not so much. But I also find I become addicted to the fan sound. It's great white noise for smoothing over the sirens and street drive bys.

What's in the pipe line for Monster Talk?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 11, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
Something may (or may not) be lurking in the swamp of Arkansas... That's all I can say right now.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Crowskie on March 11, 2010, 06:45:12 PM
Something may (or may not) be lurking in the swamp of Arkansas... That's all I can say right now.

Lurking, yes. But I am nowhere near the swamp.  >:D

Btw, I grew up in Woodruff County, AR, home of the Ivory Billed Woodpecker sightings. I'm not sure how this information can help, but I thought I would share.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 12, 2010, 08:06:45 PM
Something may (or may not) be lurking in the swamp of Arkansas... That's all I can say right now.

Lurking, yes. But I am nowhere near the swamp.  >:D

Btw, I grew up in Woodruff County, AR, home of the Ivory Billed Woodpecker sightings. I'm not sure how this information can help, but I thought I would share.

Stay tuned then! :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Crowskie on March 18, 2010, 03:25:47 AM
Still tuned...  ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on March 18, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Still tuned...  ;D

Me too!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 18, 2010, 11:31:28 AM
As always, I'm on a masturbation fast until we get a new episode of Monster Talk. No pressure, Dr Atlantis. But it goes without saying I'm a loaded pistol.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 19, 2010, 12:54:43 PM
New ep will be up Wed.  Had some problems and missed my deadline for this past Wed.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 19, 2010, 02:24:59 PM
I noticed the most recent ep of Monster Quest had Joe Nichol. I didn't see much of it before I fell asleep. It's the one about the space lizard. Stanton Friedman is in this one. Really Stanton? You really think a floating space lizard has been walking around West Virginia for the last 60 years? God. Oddly the show referred to him as Dr. but his wiki page says he only has an MA.

Oddly they also jammed in the star child skull (another great future topic). That's a really sad story. The guy takes his skull from doctor to doctor  until he finds one that goes "hey this is new to me!"
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 19, 2010, 09:51:54 PM
I noticed the most recent ep of Monster Quest had Joe Nichol. I didn't see much of it before I fell asleep. It's the one about the space lizard. Stanton Friedman is in this one. Really Stanton? You really think a floating space lizard has been walking around West Virginia for the last 60 years? God. Oddly the show referred to him as Dr. but his wiki page says he only has an MA.

Oddly they also jammed in the star child skull (another great future topic). That's a really sad story. The guy takes his skull from doctor to doctor  until he finds one that goes "hey this is new to me!"

The Star Child is annoying to me in that no matter WHAT the experts say about it, they can't address the claims of the owner.   He says it is an Alien Human hybrid.  How can you prove it isn't?  You can't.  How can he prove it is?  He can't.  Who has the burden of proof?  Well, if you're not in topsy-turvy land, he does. 

But TV is topsy-turvy land.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Jack on March 19, 2010, 10:48:26 PM
I can't believe I've never posted here. Love the show; big fan. That Ken Feder interview was fantastic.


I was listening to an old SGU episode(Live at DragonCon '08) and a strangely familiar voice jumped out at me around 39:10. ;)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 20, 2010, 09:51:46 PM
Wow - was that when I asked about the physiological difference between beliefs are stored vs. general knowledge?  That seems like a long time ago...

Glad you love the show!

I post here and on JREF - and on skeptic's own board "skepticforum".  I wish (sort of) that as small as the skeptic online world is we didn't thin ourselves out so much, but all these places have a different vibe.

Glad you found this thread! :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 21, 2010, 12:02:14 AM
Yeah, just double checked. Monster Quest's lizard man show calls Stanton "Dr." at the 8:30 mark. Slipshod writing/fact checking on Monster Quest's part? Or does Friedman have a PhD I'm unaware of?
 
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 22, 2010, 02:39:30 PM
Yeah, just double checked. Monster Quest's lizard man show calls Stanton "Dr." at the 8:30 mark. Slipshod writing/fact checking on Monster Quest's part? Or does Friedman have a PhD I'm unaware of?

That's funny.  I'll need to snag that as an audio clip.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 24, 2010, 11:51:48 AM
What happens when a creature thought to be extinct is spotted alive in the swamps of Arkansas? Can such a creature have survived? Can scientists verify the story? And when a town’s hopes and a school’s grant money are on the line, to what lengths will people go to find proof?

This week on MonsterTalk we discuss these issues with Scott Crocker, the documentary filmmaker behind Ghost Bird (http://www.ghostbirdmovie.com) — a feature length exploration into the mystery of the Ivory-billed woodpecker.

Producer's Note: The audio during the show is rough during the host-chat before the interview.  It clears up a good bit after about 5 mins.  Apologies for this.  We are seeking an alternative recording program and will be working to improve our sound.

Music

Intro Music:How Can We (http://www.archive.org/download/http://www.archive.org/details/HowCanWe1938) by Paul Martin’s Soothing Music (1938)
Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 24, 2010, 01:14:52 PM
Music

Intro Music:How Can We (http://www.archive.org/download/http://www.archive.org/details/HowCanWe1938) by Paul Martin’s Soothing Music (1938)
Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)

Ah. That clears that up. Sounded like it could be Keep Stealing Monkeys.

And let me toot Dr Atlantis' horn. He was a super guest on Brian Dunning's Amateur Scientist podcast, a live broadcast from Manual's Pub and Documentation Gastropia (found in the heart of Atlanta's technical writer district).

http://www.amateurscientist.org/2010/03/amateur-scientist-podcast-episode-94.html (http://www.amateurscientist.org/2010/03/amateur-scientist-podcast-episode-94.html)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: SkepticalEsquire on March 24, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
Music

Intro Music:How Can We (http://www.archive.org/download/http://www.archive.org/details/HowCanWe1938) by Paul Martin’s Soothing Music (1938)
Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)

Ah. That clears that up. Sounded like it could be Keep Stealing Monkeys.

And let me toot Dr Atlantis' horn. He was a super guest on Brian Dunning's Amateur Scientist podcast, a live broadcast from Manual's Pub and Documentation Gastropia (found in the heart of Atlanta's technical writer district).

http://www.amateurscientist.org/2010/03/amateur-scientist-podcast-episode-94.html (http://www.amateurscientist.org/2010/03/amateur-scientist-podcast-episode-94.html)

Let me second that.  the Amateur Scientist appearance was great listening, and not just for the Bigfoot assrape fan fiction.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on March 24, 2010, 01:55:31 PM
Music

Intro Music:How Can We (http://www.archive.org/download/http://www.archive.org/details/HowCanWe1938) by Paul Martin’s Soothing Music (1938)
Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)

Ah. That clears that up. Sounded like it could be Keep Stealing Monkeys.

And let me toot Dr Atlantis' horn. He was a super guest on Brian Dunning's Amateur Scientist podcast, a live broadcast from Manual's Pub and Documentation Gastropia (found in the heart of Atlanta's technical writer district).

http://www.amateurscientist.org/2010/03/amateur-scientist-podcast-episode-94.html (http://www.amateurscientist.org/2010/03/amateur-scientist-podcast-episode-94.html)

Let me second that.  the Amateur Scientist appearance was great listening, and not just for the Bigfoot assrape fan fiction.

+one
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Crowskie on March 24, 2010, 07:08:51 PM
That Brian Dunning gag will NEVER get old.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 25, 2010, 09:07:25 AM
That Brian Dunning gag will NEVER get old.

Gags about Brian Dunning never get old because Brian Dunning tears their still beating hearts from their chests and eats them before their dying eyes!

(With apologies to Chuck Norris.)
Title: MonsterTalk #015 - Historical Paranormal Investigations
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 07, 2010, 07:47:45 AM
Listen here: http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/015_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/015_Monstertalk.mp3)

Ghost investigations often feature in television shows and other media. Typically, these amount to people wandering around at night with EMF detectors, talking into the darkness and jumping at shadows and noises.

But how does one do a scientific paranormal investigation? On this first half of a two-part MonsterTalk, the hosts review two past ghost investigations (Ben Radford’s “Kimo Theater Ghost” and Dr. Karen Stollznow’s “Waverly Hills Sanatorium” investigations) and discuss some of the techniques that can help solve such cases. What steps are common to this type of research? Learn more this week on MonsterTalk.

In this episode

Picking what case to investigate
Finding case-zero
What phenomena is being reported
How many witnesses
Identifying and contacting witnesses, or getting primary research
Corroborative evidence
Evidence which falsifies
Research, research, research
Music

Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys
Intro Music: Vampire Organ
by Jeff Rosiana
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #015 - Historical Paranormal Investigations
Post by: DoctorOHM on April 07, 2010, 07:59:01 AM
Oh, i can't wait 'til i get home so i can listen to it!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 07, 2010, 10:09:06 AM
Giant lizard discovered in the Philippines

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100407/ap_on_sc/as_philippines_giant_lizard (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100407/ap_on_sc/as_philippines_giant_lizard)

Monster Talk fans will surely agree the article is a let down given the headline.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zalty on April 07, 2010, 11:13:01 AM
Monster Talk fans will surely agree the article is a let down given the headline.

Ya know, I don't really care too much for monsters but this podcast is one of my favourites.
I wonder why the didn't call it the "Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast."   ;)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 07, 2010, 11:36:40 AM
Monster Talk fans will surely agree the article is a let down given the headline.

Ya know, I don't really care too much for monsters but this podcast is one of my favourites.
I wonder why the didn't call it the "Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast."   ;)

We wanted to trick believers into listening, only to find themselves convinced of the value of critical thinking by the sexy (yet wholesome) hosts?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 07, 2010, 01:37:11 PM
Dammit I should have called my podcast "For Men With Big Penises".
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 07, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
Dammit I should have called my podcast "For Men With Big Penises".

That is the sub-title isn't it?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zalty on April 08, 2010, 09:05:45 AM
Monster Talk fans will surely agree the article is a let down given the headline.

Ya know, I don't really care too much for monsters but this podcast is one of my favourites.
I wonder why the didn't call it the "Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast."   ;)

We wanted to trick believers into listening, only to find themselves convinced of the value of critical thinking by the sexy (yet wholesome) hosts?

Critical thinking is just bland and boring sophistry for impartial college professors ..the sexy hosts are what really convinces me.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 08, 2010, 09:23:30 AM
Great ep. I really liked Ben's ghost story investigation. An arm chair skeptic might have gone "all the actors were worried about the donut ghost so it was a self fulfilling prophesy". It's not a bad hypothesis, of course, and one to suggest to ghost hunters that they have to explain, but Ben showed when you get to primary sources, the story always seems very different. He did that with Alex's so called slam dunk psychic detective case. I found that doing Paracast. The hosts presented me with what was intimated as three "best cases" and when I examined the primary documents, the story that had evolved over time didn't at all match the original source material.

Yeah, never, ever take an old story at face value. These things have a way of evolving over time. Details that don't make it a better story get dropped. Things that make it a better story get added.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on April 08, 2010, 08:33:37 PM
sound quality rocks!
Title: Episode #016 - Sinking the Watertown
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 21, 2010, 09:57:53 AM
HISTORICAL GHOST INVESTIGATIONS
PART II — SINKING THE WATERTOWN

(http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-04-21images/SSWatertown-ghosts-243.jpg)

This week, MonsterTalk continues its two-part discussion of historical ghost investigations. Blake Smith describes his investigation into a famous photo that allegedly shows two dead sailors floating off the side of a 1920’s oil tanker. Methodology for conducting historical investigation is detailed, using Ben Radford’s upcoming book on scientific paranormal investigation as a basis for the talk.

Did two sailors haunt their fellow shipmates? Does the photo really show two ghosts? Find out the answers in this informative conclusion — and find out how you can solve your own cases!

In this episode

Blake Smith’s Watertown research is in the April (UK) and May (US) editions of Fortean Times (http://www.forteantimes.com).

Much of the material for these Episode 15 & 16 of MonsterTalk come from Ben Radford’s upcoming book on Scientific Paranormal Investigation (http://www.radfordbooks.com).

The following is a brief sample of Ben’s insights which come from his own experiences in this field:

General Versus Specific Claims

As an investigator, you will be dealing with specific cases and claims. For example, general claims might be that house X is haunted, or person Y is psychic. Specific claims would be that a ghost was reported or photographed on one or more specific occasions at house X, or psychic Y can read volunteer’s minds. General claims are not testable or falsifiable (you cannot prove or disprove the existence of Bigfoot or psychic powers, but you can prove or disprove specific claimed examples or reports). One of the most important things is to ask the right questions; you must be able to focus on the relevant issues and know what to look for.

In many cases what seems like one simple question must actually be broken down into several different ones for independent analysis. For example, say a published report by a writer (Person A) quotes a psychic, ghost investigator, or eyewitness (Person B) as describing a ghost experience (information X).

To begin investigating, we first need to examine all the components of the claim: 1) Did Person B actually give Information X? Who heard him/her say that? Is there any independent proof or written record of it, or is it just A’s assertion? What, exactly, was the information? It could be that the claim is wrong; she said something different, and the story got better in the retelling. 2) Is the Information X accurate or plausible? For example, are they describing something that they physically could not have seen from their alleged location?

In sum, you need to not only verify that the claim about person A’s information is accurate (that is, she really said what it was claimed she said), but also that the information itself is accurate (information X correctly matches independently gathered information about Person B). Do not assume anything; check out everything.

Once you have chosen a mystery to investigate, you should research the topic thoroughly, on three levels: A) the general topic; B) the localized version of the topic; and C) the specific sighting, event, or phenomenon.

For example, if you are looking into a Bigfoot sighting on a farm in rural Pennsylvania, you need to not only learn as much as you can about that specific incident (C), but you also should research the history of Bigfoot sightings in Pennsylvania (B), as well as have a general knowledge (A) of Bigfoot sightings, claims, hoaxes, etc.

If you are investigating a local missing persons case where a psychic detective claims to have solved the crime, you should find out all you can about that missing persons case (C), but also do some investigation into the psychic detective herself (B), as well as have a good understanding of the skeptical literature about psychics detectives (A), their history, claims, and methods.

Types of mysteries and investigations

There are basic types of investigations you’ll encounter as a paranormal investigator. These divisions are not hard and fast, and some investigations fall into more than one category, but each of them requires a slightly different focus.

Historical mysteries

Historical cases are those in which an unexplained event or phenomena happened at some time in the past, usually at a specific place, and is not currently active. This might include the Great Pyramid of Ghiza, the Amityville Horror case, the Nasca lines of Peru, the Bermuda Triangle, the 1947 Roswell Crash site, and so on. My investigation of the Pokémon Panic (Chapter 11) is a historical mystery, as were parts of my chupacabra investigation (Chapter 14). These cases are often solved largely through careful research and analysis. While I always advocate actually going to the place where the mystery occurred, it is not always practical or useful in historical mysteries. For example it’s unlikely you will uncover any new information by visiting the Great Pyramid, or taking a cruise through the Bermuda Triangle.

Forensic research mysteries

Forensic research mysteries are similar to historical mysteries, though not necessarily tied to a specific place. Such investigations might include investigating a psychic detective’s claim of having solved an old crime, or looking at Nostradamus’s prophecies, or re-examining a person’s claim of alien abduction. “The psychic and the serial killer case” case is an example of a forensic research mystery. Like historical mysteries, these cases are often solved by attention to detailed research and analysis—discovering a “smoking gun” hidden in some obscure newspaper report, or double-checking facts to find that primary sources contradict the “official version.” These cases can be especially challenging because the investigator must rely on his or her research skills, and unlike historical mysteries, there may be no actual “place” to visit to further investigate or do original research: it’s all in books, files, newspaper reports, original documents, and so on. However, all investigations—every single one, no matter the subject matter—begins with good background research, and sometimes the mystery is solved by doing little more than reading what you found.

Music

Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)

Eternal Father, Strong to Save
from Archive.org (http://www.archive.org/download/http://www.archive.org/details/EternalFatherStrongToSave)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 26, 2010, 01:41:32 PM
Your faces in the water investigation sounded interesting but then I was kind of crushed you didn't reveal the whole story. But I guess you didn't want to scoop yourself. Magazine might start refusing to pay authors who do stuff like that :)

I did notice the Fortean Times offers a direct link to the story online. Would you mind if I posted a link to the FT page? I don't want to third hand scoop the print edition.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 26, 2010, 05:23:56 PM
Your faces in the water investigation sounded interesting but then I was kind of crushed you didn't reveal the whole story. But I guess you didn't want to scoop yourself. Magazine might start refusing to pay authors who do stuff like that :)

I did notice the Fortean Times offers a direct link to the story online. Would you mind if I posted a link to the FT page? I don't want to third hand scoop the print edition.

If I'd seen the direct link I'd have put it here myself.  Feel free.

I told them I'd run a longer version after the print version had run.  So June-ish...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on April 26, 2010, 06:42:56 PM
Yeah, I had the same feeling of disappointment... especially since Im not sure if the Fortean Times can even be found here in Australia. But when I found the article online it made it all better.

The article (http://www.forteantimes.com/features/fbi/3256/the_watertown_ghosts.html) is top of the list under their "Bureau of Investigation" section.
(Weird... I got to the article just fine, but now it suddenly has changed its mind and wants me to register to view anything. Hope the link works for others)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 27, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
Yeah, I had the same feeling of disappointment... especially since Im not sure if the Fortean Times can even be found here in Australia. But when I found the article online it made it all better.

The article (http://www.forteantimes.com/features/fbi/3256/the_watertown_ghosts.html) is top of the list under their "Bureau of Investigation" section.
(Weird... I got to the article just fine, but now it suddenly has changed its mind and wants me to register to view anything. Hope the link works for others)

Ditto. That's the link I found  yesterday and it linked directly now it wants me to register. I guess maybe FT noticed some spike in traffic for that page via Monster Talk's listener base.

Well, its their right to collect data in return for some free text.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 05, 2010, 09:40:20 PM
In this week’s episode, MonsterTalk looks once again at genetics and creatures created in the laboratory. Dr. Marcus C. Davis joins the hosts to discuss what constitutes a “monster.” In his work, Davis deals with paleontology, as well as embryological manipulation — which, by some definitions, means he literally creates monsters.
(http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10/05/05/images/marcus-davis.jpg)
What kinds of creatures are scientists making in labs today? What is the scope of their power? What guides their ethics? Learn more this week on MonsterTalk!

In this episode

Some questions we address with Dr. Marcus:

What defines a monster — and what is the history
of the word in a scientific context?
What does it mean to create a monster in the lab?
What are the ethical bodies that govern embryological and genetic experiments?
How do scientists feel about being subject to those levels of oversight?
What is up with that photo of a mouse with an ear on its back?
Links for more information on topics in the show

The mouse with an ear on its back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacanti_mouse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacanti_mouse)
(http://meredith007.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/mouse-human-ear.jpg)

The governing bodies that guide embryology/development experiments:
National Institute of Health has animal health governing body called OLAW:
http://grants.nih.gov/grants/olaw/olaw.htm (http://grants.nih.gov/grants/olaw/olaw.htm)
Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee (IACUC):
http://www.iacuc.org/ (http://www.iacuc.org/)

Music

Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://www.musicalley.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on May 16, 2010, 10:04:04 AM
MT fans here's a nice hold over:

http://www.skepticallyspeaking.com/ (http://www.skepticallyspeaking.com/)

The MT cast make a great point about monster legends and tourism, how tourist industries take hold.

A couple other gems from the podcast

http://www.skepticallyspeaking.com/episodes?page=2 (http://www.skepticallyspeaking.com/episodes?page=2)

The Wakefield Study
The Independent Investigations Group

(SS is actually a campus radio show and really professionally done. The host is awesome and she wrangles a lot of great experts.)

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 18, 2010, 12:50:04 PM
I'll have a new MT (the one with Joe Nickell) out next week.  Didn't make our deadline this week because of some family issues.  But Joe's talk is a fun one.

-DrA
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on May 31, 2010, 01:09:32 PM
Interview with Doctor Atlantis about Monster Talk:

http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html (http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 01, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
Interview with Doctor Atlantis about Monster Talk:

http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html (http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html)

Thanks for the Interview!  It made AmSci laugh out loud, which is good.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on June 01, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
Interview with Doctor Atlantis about Monster Talk:

http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html (http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html)

Thanks for the Interview!  It made AmSci laugh out loud, which is good.

Which part? Where I called Brian hipster king of skepticism? :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Nigel on June 01, 2010, 10:11:15 PM
 I enjoyed reading it a great deal.  I would love to see DoctorAtlantis do a piece on Atlantis.  Good stuff Karl & Blake.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 01, 2010, 10:19:58 PM
Interview with Doctor Atlantis about Monster Talk:

http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html (http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html)

Thanks for the Interview!  It made AmSci laugh out loud, which is good.

Which part? Where I called Brian hipster king of skepticism? :)

He might have laughed at that - but he mentioned the bit about The Warriors specifically.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on June 01, 2010, 10:27:17 PM
Interview with Doctor Atlantis about Monster Talk:

http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html (http://www.skepreview.com/2010/05/interview-with-blake-smith-of-monster.html)

Thanks for the Interview!  It made AmSci laugh out loud, which is good.

Which part? Where I called Brian hipster king of skepticism? :)

He might have laughed at that - but he mentioned the bit about The Warriors specifically.

He never laughs at my jokes :) Yes, that was pretty funny.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 04, 2010, 01:27:41 PM
Cthulhu is coming.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on June 04, 2010, 09:53:22 PM
Awesome :) Will be good timing, too, actually... Ive just been correcting my embarrassing lack of Lovecraft cred with some handy audiobooks.

Also, Joe Nickell was great. If there was any justice in the world he'd have his own show.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 07, 2010, 10:42:02 PM
Awesome :) Will be good timing, too, actually... Ive just been correcting my embarrassing lack of Lovecraft cred with some handy audiobooks.

Also, Joe Nickell was great. If there was any justice in the world he'd have his own show.

Had a hardware error after a lightning induced power outage. Ep will be delayed because I missed the pub-window.  It'll be out next week.

In the mean time please listen to this - it's a great interview:
http://www.pointofinquiry.org/st_joshi_fright_and_freethought/ (http://www.pointofinquiry.org/st_joshi_fright_and_freethought/)

I tried to get Joshi on our show but he never returned my inquiries.  However, Price (who we DO interview) interviewed Joshi and asked all the questions I'd have asked. :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on June 08, 2010, 05:02:13 AM
Had a hardware error after a lightning induced power outage.

Cthulhu f'tagn.


As for it being late, that actually works out well because Ill be busy for the second half of this week :D

And I think I actually saw Joshi in a doco over the weekend... By random coincidence a local channel had a 2.5 hour Lovecraft thing on, but I only found out about it about 20 minutes from the end :(
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 16, 2010, 02:13:44 AM
Listen to Episode 019 (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/019_Monstertalk.mp3)

Quote
That is not dead which can eternal lie And with strange aeons even death may die.

—H.P. Lovecraft,
The Call of Cthulhu

(The official show notes has pictures) (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10/06/16/)

The literary work of Howard Phillips Lovecraft is dark and macabre. It casts a long shadow in American Literature, influencing such writers as Rod Serling, Steven King, Bob Howard, Robert Bloch, and many others. In his stories he wove a tapestry of mad alien gods and unspeakable horrors and the insignificance of man. And of a mountainous evil that sleeps in the ocean, worshipped by mad cults and known only as … Cthulhu.

In this episode


Robert M. Price, a noted Lovecraft scholar, discusses:


We then interview biologist PZ Myers about Cthulhu’s biological inspiration, discussing the weird alien biology and physiology of cephalopods.

Links of interest

More on PZ Myers’ favorite monster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_Squid)
Robert M. Price’s interview of ST Joshi on Point of Inquiry (http://www.pointofinquiry.org/st_joshi_fright_and_freethought/)
Quirks and Quarks on the evolution of Cephalopod pseudopods: http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/09-10/qq-2010-05-29.html (http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/09-10/qq-2010-05-29.html)


Music
Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys
Intro Music: Death by 1000psi

Robert W. Price
Interstitial Music: Goblin Dreams A.R. Morgan
Outro Music: Hey There Cthulhu (http://www.ebenbrooks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=54) by The Eben Brooks Band and used by special permission.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rai on June 16, 2010, 05:34:37 AM
First I thought "hey, but Cthulhu is not cryptozoology, it's straight fiction!". Then I saw PZ and realised that it doesn't matter. You could be having an episode on hedge funds with him for all I care, I'd be interested. :D

There's one thing I'd like to ask though: I can has Darren Naish? 
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on June 16, 2010, 10:12:30 AM
This appeared in my Twitter feed earlier today:

Quote from: davegibbons90
HP Lovecraft discussion mp3 at http://bit.ly/cMdaNu (http://bit.ly/cMdaNu) via skeptic.com

Quote from: davegibbons90
I should add that there is also much cephalopod talk at that last link, for those who have ever felt squid-deprived.

And, yes, it is that Dave Gibbons. (http://davegibbonsfansite.com/cms/front_content.php) Kudos guys!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 16, 2010, 02:19:16 PM
This appeared in my Twitter feed earlier today:

Quote from: davegibbons90
HP Lovecraft discussion mp3 at http://bit.ly/cMdaNu (http://bit.ly/cMdaNu) via skeptic.com

Quote from: davegibbons90
I should add that there is also much cephalopod talk at that last link, for those who have ever felt squid-deprived.

And, yes, it is that Dave Gibbons. (http://davegibbonsfansite.com/cms/front_content.php) Kudos guys!

Yes, I have totally soiled my pants - and not in the back this time!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 16, 2010, 02:19:39 PM
First I thought "hey, but Cthulhu is not cryptozoology, it's straight fiction!". Then I saw PZ and realised that it doesn't matter. You could be having an episode on hedge funds with him for all I care, I'd be interested. :D

There's one thing I'd like to ask though: I can has Darren Naish?

We do want to have Darren on.  He's on the list.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: SkepticalEsquire on June 16, 2010, 02:30:55 PM
Listen to Episode 019 (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/media/skeptic/019_Monstertalk.mp3)

Quote
That is not dead which can eternal lie And with strange aeons even death may die.

—H.P. Lovecraft,
The Call of Cthulhu

(click to show/hide)

Best. Episode theme. Ever.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Jack on June 17, 2010, 12:46:38 AM
This appeared in my Twitter feed earlier today:

Quote from: davegibbons90
HP Lovecraft discussion mp3 at http://bit.ly/cMdaNu (http://bit.ly/cMdaNu) via skeptic.com

Quote from: davegibbons90
I should add that there is also much cephalopod talk at that last link, for those who have ever felt squid-deprived.

And, yes, it is that Dave Gibbons. (http://davegibbonsfansite.com/cms/front_content.php) Kudos guys!
Wow. That's really awesome! :laugh:
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on June 19, 2010, 10:31:07 AM
Wow, nice to hear Robert Price doing something else. I love his bible stuff but it was nice to hear he has some other deep interests.

Any flack on what might be interpreted as glossing over Lovecraft's racism? That can be a touchy subject. He was born in 1890, died in the late 1930s. Not the most enlightened times.

Wiki lays it out well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft#Race.2C_ethnicity.2C_and_class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft#Race.2C_ethnicity.2C_and_class)

Still some of his writings about Jews justs makes me cringe:

Quote
The mass of contemporary Jews are hopeless as far as America is concerned. They are the product of alien blood, & inherit alien ideals, impulses, & emotions which forever preclude the possibility of wholesale assimilation... On our side there is a shuddering physical repugnance to most Semitic types...so that wherever the Wandering Jew wanders, he will have to content himself with his own society till he disappears or is killed off in some sudden outburst of mad physical loathing on our part. I've easily felt able to slaughter a score or two when jammed in a N.Y. subway train.

Maybe a product of commuter rage? Hell, substitute "jew" for "Korean" and "New York" for "Seoul" and you might find some of my writing not far off.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 19, 2010, 09:27:17 PM
Any flack on what might be interpreted as glossing over Lovecraft's racism? That can be a touchy subject. He was born in 1890, died in the late 1930s. Not the most enlightened times.

I thought we covered it in more depth than most Lovecraft themed  books or shows do.  To put it more simply than i did in the show, I love his writing but repudiate his racism. 

He was a complex guy and a powerful intellect on many levels but I'm not willing to give him any kind of pass for his time.  But it doesn't make me un-like his fiction any more than Wagner's awful racism makes me un-like his operas.

And to be fair, Lovecraft's time (1890 - 1937) was concurrent with much of Hitler's life (1889 - 1945) and I'm unwilling to give him a pass either. ;)

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on June 20, 2010, 07:10:24 AM
Wow, nice to hear Robert Price doing something else. I love his bible stuff but it was nice to hear he has some other deep interests.

Robert M. Price is a really cool guy. I'm just reading "The Call of Chtulhu RPG" 6th edition by Chaosium game, and it's so funny to read his name in the book (because he writes the introduction to Chaosium's anthologies of novellas), when I'm a huge fan of the Bible geek podcast...  ;)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 20, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
Episode Link Live - Wed July 21, 2010:
MonsterTalk Episode #20 (http://traffic.libsyn.com//skeptic/020_Monstertalk.mp3)

Early in March of 1984, the Ohio newspaper The Columbus Dispatch began to tell the tale of a 14 year old girl who was undergoing a terrible ordeal. Objects in her house began to fly across the room and smash. Clocks ran faster than normal. Silverware and china flew and broke. Several witnesses reported seeing these terrifying events and a newspaper man caught photos of a telephone flying through the air in front of the frightened teen.

Tina Resch, a foster child, was in the care of a couple who, over the course of 31 years would take care of over 250 foster children. Was she just seeking attention? Or was she being plagued by the terrifying paranormal phenomena known as a POLTERGEIST?

We talk with James “The Amazing” Randi on his recollections of this case and on the tragic life of a poltergeist victim. Randi highlights the case in his upcoming book, A Magician in the Laboratory (digital excerpt).

Additional Reading

Tina Resch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Resch)
The Tina Resch (Christina Boyer) legal case (http://jamesaconrad.com/Tina/Tina-Resch-Boyer-case.html)
William Roll, Parapsychologist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Roll)
The Guyra Ghost (Australian Poltergeist) (http://www.guyraargus.com.au/news/local/news/general/final-verdict-on-the-guyra-ghost/1733287.aspx?storypage=1)
The Enfield Ghost (Australian Poltergeist) (http://www.australianparanormalsociety.com/news/?p=34)
Poltergeist (The Skeptic’s Dictionary) (http://www.skepdic.com/poltergeist.html)

Music

Restless Spirits: Underscore by David Beard
Restless Spirits: Beat C by David Beard
Churchyard by David Beard
Monstertalk Theme: Monster
by Peach Stealing Monkeys (http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=06ba115c9179b9129835f78ae26f76cf)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: cerveauxfrits on July 20, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
Woohoo!


You've made me a very happy boy.  I just finished listening through the entire backlog of episodes because I'd been jonesing for more, and was starting to worry about what I was going to listen to next.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Crowskie on July 20, 2010, 09:47:13 PM
So... this show is an excuse to talk to Randi?  :P

I recommended your show to a classmate who is a big fan of Monster Quest, and seemed to enjoy the small skeptical parts of it.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on July 20, 2010, 10:31:02 PM
The link isnt working for me? It just gives a 404.
Working now.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on July 21, 2010, 08:29:48 AM
So... this show is an excuse to talk to Randi?  :P

I recommended your show to a classmate who is a big fan of Monster Quest, and seemed to enjoy the small skeptical parts of it.

One never needs an excuse to talk to Randi at TAM!

Great Randi interview. I've never heard Randi talk about this story. And I've heard a lot of Randi interviews!

Randi pulls no punches about Roll. Check out this credulous telling:

http://jamesaconrad.tripod.com/Tina-Resch-Boyer-case.html (http://jamesaconrad.tripod.com/Tina-Resch-Boyer-case.html)

"I wrote and co-wrote the dictionaries for two related billion dollar industries. I know the difference between fact and fiction. My last dictionary had over 5,000 facts in it."

Well, his authority is beyond dispute.

Note his challenge:

Quote
A Challenge to CSI  (since January 20, 2006)

The Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP; now called The Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, or CSI) judged this case to be a "simple hoax" in 1984 (see quotes by skeptics further down this page). Something simple should be very easy to duplicate in a test. I would like to challenge CSI to find a 14-year-old girl with a similar height (5'8" in 1984) and physical build as Tina who can grab and throw a phone (handset and handset and base) from a side table seven times in a similar setting in front of a similar number of close-proximity witnesses, some of whom are photographed looking right at the girl and do so perfectly each time without being caught visually or on camera.

No practice in front of the witnesses allowed, no second chances at grabbing and throwing, no having all the witnesses close their eyes or look away briefly (however, the photographer, who saw the phones fly also with direct vision, can intentionally glance away while holding the camera ready, as is documented in this case), no thread or threads holding up the phone or throwing the phone already held in the hand in recreation or simulation photographs (see photo of Paul Kurtz, Skeptical Inquirer, summer 1984, p 295 with a phone and cord suspended in the air in front of him and his hands held up for the camera), and no "actor witnesses" as used by modern TV illusionists. Seven times. Perfectly achieved. If that cannot be done, then to a reasonable mind there is only one other likely explanation, one involving a genuine phenomenon of new physics: telekinesis, and the recording of a series of historic science photographs by a veteran newspaper photographer, accompanied by a reporter from the same paper recording the events with the written word.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 21, 2010, 09:19:18 AM
It's an odd, odd case.  The legal case is just as odd.  Tina Resch (Christina Boyer) didn't want to risk facing a jury trial in a death penalty case.  Lots of people have come forward to say that she would never have hurt her child - but SOMEBODY was abusing the 3 year old daughter.

The problem in the paranormal case is that once someone is caught cheating, the whole case is, as Daniel Loxton says, "Radioactive."  If they cheat once, they are dishonest and could have cheated in other cases.  It's why you put a magician on the case.  Just because the average Joe doesn't know how to solve the mystery or see a trick doesn't mean there isn't a trick.

Another possibility is that it isn't just Tina who was involved with the trickery.  It could be that the foster parents went along with it too.  It certainly sounds like, from Randi's perspective, that the newspaper people were just excited to have a story and would do anything to help prop it up.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on July 22, 2010, 10:15:55 AM
Hehe. Faux Gras.

Very interesting... Randi's stories are always great even when hes just talking about day to day stuff, and even better when its ghost stories.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 22, 2010, 08:09:57 PM
Hehe. Faux Gras.

Very interesting... Randi's stories are always great even when hes just talking about day to day stuff, and even better when its ghost stories.

+1 Points for you and Steven of http://www.skepticalviewer.com/ (http://www.skepticalviewer.com/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 11, 2010, 09:56:30 AM
DARREN NAISH is a palaeozoologist, freelance author and science writer of the Tetrapod Zoology column on ScienceBlogs. Affiliated with the university of Portsmouth, he obtained a degree in geology and then gained a PhD in vertebrate palaeontology at this institution. He mostly works on Cretaceous dinosaurs and pterosaurs, and “also messes around with swimming giraffes, fossil marine reptiles, British big cats and stuff like that.”

(http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-08-11images/naish.jpg)

Darren joined us on MonsterTalk to talk about the intersection of mainstream science and cryptozoology. Topics include:
This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion of the relationship of science and cryptozoology.

Related Links

BBC Timeline of Alien Big Cat sightings (http://www.bbc.co.uk/southerncounties/content/articles/2008/04/28/surrey_puma_sightings_feature.shtml)
Info on the Orang Pendek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Pendek)

Music

Music for today’s episode includes a sample from the theme from the Commodore-64 video game “Mail Order Monsters” and our regular theme by Peach Stealing Monkeys.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on August 11, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
Ah I quite enjoy his blog. Should be a typically good ep. Which leads me to ask,  you seem to be having a hard time getting on working scientsits, have you considered working the scienceblogs tree? They seem to be largely working scientists but many also seem to occasionally confront pseudo-science.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 11, 2010, 10:45:42 PM
I find it hard to get scientists to come talk about very specific topics.  I usually pick a topic and then try to think of a way to get some science injection from it.  In this case it was a pretty easy shot.

We're going to be talking with a scientist about a very real monster pretty soon - one which is very nasty and disgusting.  Can't wait.  That's Monday IIRC...

But our next ep will be from TAM8 and features Dr. Donald Prothero and Daniel Loxton.  They're collaborating on a book.


Ah I quite enjoy his blog. Should be a typically good ep. Which leads me to ask,  you seem to be having a hard time getting on working scientsits, have you considered working the scienceblogs tree? They seem to be largely working scientists but many also seem to occasionally confront pseudo-science.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on August 12, 2010, 03:25:58 AM
Btw, DocAtlantis, is the last Ben Radford book available on the kindle store yet? I know you've been working on that. Is it coming soon?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on August 12, 2010, 09:18:57 AM
Oh oh if I can put in a request/plug... maybe a show about alien virus invasions and get ERV blogger aka Abbie Smith?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 13, 2010, 01:37:28 PM
Oh oh if I can put in a request/plug... maybe a show about alien virus invasions and get ERV blogger aka Abbie Smith?

Thanks MindMe - that's a great idea.  I already tried this topic but was attempting to get someone from the CDC on.  I'm certain there are virologists and epidemiologists there who would do it but I couldn't get past their Media Relations firewall.

At least I have a formal media affiliation now thanks to Skeptic Magazine!   In the mean time, Abbie's blog makes her sound like a great candidate.

http://scienceblogs.com/erv/ (http://scienceblogs.com/erv/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 13, 2010, 02:00:03 PM
Btw, DocAtlantis, is the last Ben Radford book available on the kindle store yet? I know you've been working on that. Is it coming soon?

It's working pretty well - I think Ben is double/triple checking it before we get it uploaded.  I HOPE it is up this weekend.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rai on August 14, 2010, 05:44:29 AM
I have to say thank you for Darren Naish! It was an awesome episode.
Title: Dragon*Con
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on August 31, 2010, 12:32:44 PM
If you're going to be at Dragon*Con you can catch a live recording of MonsterTalk on Saturday at 4:00 pm in the Hilton's Skeptrack room. (That's just outside the bridge between the Hilton and the Hyatt.)

Hope to see you there!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 16, 2010, 06:27:46 AM
Direct Link (http://c2.libsyn.com/media/19039/023_Monstertalk.mp3?nvb=20100916101803&nva=20100917102803&sid=287630bc897b8b01511e78d653d5f5ef&l_sid=19039&l_eid=&l_mid=2033143&t=0d48de2e9410adfd0087a)

(http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10/09/15/images/mangemonsters.jpg)

IN THIS EPISODE we get under the skin of the chupacabra legend, and find out more about the lice that cause the hairless canids the media loves so much. It’s okay to scratch — but don’t skip this episode! Once you get past the disgust factor, there is some amazing science going in parasitology. Our guide into this fascinating world is acarologist Dr. Barry O’Connor, of the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology and the Museum of Zoology, University of Michigan.

Topics include:

What is acarology?
The origin of mange & scabies
The difference between the two diseases
Why does mange cause hair loss?
Why does mange cause death?
What is the life cycle of a mite?
What is the evolutionary origin of dust mites?
Why does the media get excited by hairless animals?
Music

Intro music by David Beard
Monstertalk Theme: Monster by Peach Stealing Monkeys
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on September 16, 2010, 08:28:16 AM
I didn't realize mites were related to spiders. Another science packed show!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on September 16, 2010, 09:21:25 AM
Apart from itching all over, i really enjoyed the show! As i do every time!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 16, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
I learned a lot in this one.  I was fascinated by O'Connor's explanation of why dust mites cause allergic reactions.  And the fact that human domestication of animals is why these critters get mange also surprised me.  And that an "epizootic" is what you call a disease that sweeps through an animal community...  Just lots of good stuff.
Title: MonsterTalk #024 - Live Show - Dragon*Con 2010
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 30, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
ep's up - we take questions from the audience. Including Dr. Rachie and Brian Dunning...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on October 02, 2010, 09:30:47 PM
Wow great sound. Usually live recordings are a pain in the ass due to the sound. But this was good stuff. Great questions from the audience as well.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on October 03, 2010, 07:19:23 AM
Looked at the subjects on the RSS feed. Going to have to subscribe at home  ;)
Mobile broadband simply does not have the speed for downloading them.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on October 08, 2010, 12:26:13 PM
I hope that posting under myself is alright in this instance

With the Watertown photo, I would say that while I have no disagreement on your conclusions, the positions on small items can vary on different ships of the same class greatly so the positions of stanchions is not really a good argument.
Ships also get modified the longer they operate.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: cerveauxfrits on October 08, 2010, 12:38:23 PM
That said, a stanchion whose bottom end doesn't appear to be fastened to anything seems like a rather unlikely modification.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on October 08, 2010, 07:06:54 PM
I would like to see what is above it just in case because it MIGHT be a line (what I mean is as in a rope)

Edit: I found the picture of her sister. Has it bee considered that the picture might have been taken a deck below the red arrow? Where the red arrow is might be little more than a scaffolding.

Now, I am in no way saying that the picture is not a fake.

As well, sorry, just as an ex-sailor I have a love of nautical mysteries.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on October 09, 2010, 07:43:06 AM
Wow great sound. Usually live recordings are a pain in the ass due to the sound. But this was good stuff. Great questions from the audience as well.

+1 I really agree with that. That was a great episode!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 11, 2010, 12:53:36 PM
I would like to see what is above it just in case because it MIGHT be a line (what I mean is as in a rope)

Edit: I found the picture of her sister. Has it bee considered that the picture might have been taken a deck below the red arrow? Where the red arrow is might be little more than a scaffolding.

Now, I am in no way saying that the picture is not a fake.

As well, sorry, just as an ex-sailor I have a love of nautical mysteries.

Me too - ex-sailor, loving nautical mysteries.

The location where the photo was allegedly taken is included in one version of the story - but in truth, I have absolutely no reason to believe the photo was ever taken from/on the Watertown at all.  Knowing that the most likely scenario is that the photo was faked in New York there is a good reason to suspect that it might not even be from the Watertown at all.  There just isn't enough detail in the photo to verify the location but there is a definite cut/paste job going on.

I would have loved to have gone further - perhaps using the ships plans to do a CGI model?  Only the shipping company didn't preserve the blueprints as near as I can tell.  LAME.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on October 11, 2010, 06:48:37 PM
I do line drawings of vessels but there is not enough detail in the photo, usually I need dozens of high quality photos to do a good job.

One advantage I might have is that I am also a navy history buff so that is why I think the deck that the picture is suppose to be taken from is not a deck at all but basically just a catwalk.

Have you tried the Navy history center and /or Navsource for ships at least similar? Also, do you have a higher quality picture of the ship I can look at. Can send you my e-mail address.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 15, 2010, 08:17:05 AM
Have you tried the Navy history center and /or Navsource for ships at least similar? Also, do you have a higher quality picture of the ship I can look at. Can send you my e-mail address.

Shoot me an e-mail at doctoratlantis@gmail.com and I'll send you some bigger pix. 
Title: MonsterTalk #025 - The Rise of Bat Boy
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 20, 2010, 12:05:11 AM
THE RISE OF BAT BOY
Direct Link to Show. (http://"http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/025_Monstertalk.mp3") Won't be active until show goes live at midnight PST.
(http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10/10/20/images/bat-boy-comp-515.jpg)
IN THE PANTHEON OF AMERICAN MONSTERS, only one truly dominated the newspapers of the 1990s. Checkout lines everywhere were haunted by the bald-headed, wide-mawed visage of Bat Boy.

What was Bat Boy, and where did he come from? The MonsterTalk team interviews cartoonist Tye Bourdony, a former employee of the Weekly World News and creator of the online comic “The Lighter Side of Sci-Fi (http://"http://thelightersideofscifi.com")”. Bourdony has had his comics published in Cracked, Sci-Fi and Star Trek magazines. He provides a behind-the-scenes look at the rise and fall of the famous tabloid paper the*World Weekly News*and shares his insights about the paper’s most popular recurring character: Bat Boy.

On Wikipedia
Weekly World News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News)
Bat Boy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_(character))

In this episode:
Plus lots of stories about what it was like to work at one of the country’s most unusual newspapers.

Music
Monstertalk Theme:*Monster*by*Peach Stealing Monkeys
Grocery-store ambient sound effects by ZuluT via*freesound.org, used with permission under*Creative Commons License.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on October 20, 2010, 12:18:39 AM
Direct Link to Show. (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/025_Monstertalk.mp3)
FTFY.

Now to figure out when PST midnight is in relation to me...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 20, 2010, 07:43:01 AM
Direct Link to Show. (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/025_Monstertalk.mp3)
FTFY.

Now to figure out when PST midnight is in relation to me...
Just as well - there was a bug in the audio. It's fixed now but was broken from midnight to 6 am EST.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zack kruse on October 20, 2010, 01:12:18 PM
Woo-hoo! New episode! BatBoy! Makes me want to read some Peter Bagge comics...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 20, 2010, 09:52:11 PM
Woo-hoo! New episode! BatBoy! Makes me want to read some Peter Bagge comics...

You're the second listener to point out that we failed to mention Peter's work. :P 
Lame on us.

http://www.peterbagge.com (http://www.peterbagge.com)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zack kruse on October 21, 2010, 10:23:44 AM
Woo-hoo! New episode! BatBoy! Makes me want to read some Peter Bagge comics...

You're the second listener to point out that we failed to mention Peter's work. :P 
Lame on us.

http://www.peterbagge.com (http://www.peterbagge.com)

One of my all-time favorite cartoonists. The Bat Boy strip is terrific
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on October 21, 2010, 03:46:55 PM
http://ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=8051 (http://ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=8051)

Monster Talk gets a mention in the U of M (go U of M Devil Dogs! Crush the Michigan State Magic Ponies again this year in the Rust Bowl!) news service.

Will this help you go legit, Doc A, and get more academics? "Look, get your name in your university's news service!"
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 21, 2010, 08:18:02 PM

Will this help you go legit, Doc A, and get more academics? "Look, get your name in your university's news service!"
 (http://ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=8051)

That's all nice and all, but Evil Eye (from the boards here) got me an interview on FM 104.1 The Monsters In The Morning show.  I think that probably has more impact... we'll see. :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on November 05, 2010, 07:49:53 PM
Theres a new one up.

"This week on MonsterTalk, author Stephen Asma (Professor of Philosophy at Columbia College Chicago) speaks about his comprehensive book surveying Western monster-lore."

Linkage (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/026_Monstertalk.mp3)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zack kruse on November 05, 2010, 09:55:11 PM
Really interesting episode this week. Good work, guys!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 07, 2010, 10:40:38 PM
Really interesting episode this week. Good work, guys!

Thanks!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zack kruse on November 08, 2010, 10:04:30 AM
Really interesting episode this week. Good work, guys!

Thanks!

No problem. I'm always fascinated with the psychology behind superstitions and belief in monsters and stuff. It was a lot of fun to listen to
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on November 22, 2010, 11:06:31 AM
Heard the expose trailer for MonsterTalk and Ben Radford on the Skeptic Zone podcast this week.

Very funny. Are all of you going to get one?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 28, 2010, 05:39:35 PM
Heard the expose trailer for MonsterTalk and Ben Radford on the Skeptic Zone podcast this week.

Very funny. Are all of you going to get one?

LOL - this is, I suppose, what happens when they ask you for a podcast promo and you don't provide them with one.   I think that must have been Kylie doing that?  Very funny.
Title: MonsterTalk #027 - The Iceman Goeth
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 01, 2010, 10:47:01 PM
Interview with Matt Crowley on The Minnesota Ice Man.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #027 - The Iceman Goeth
Post by: JMA on December 02, 2010, 07:36:51 AM
Interview with Matt Crowley on The Minnesota Ice Man.

That's my favorite episode so far. Really interesting stuff.

I saw recently during a cryptozoology exhibition in Japan (they call it UMA here, for Unidentified Mysterious Animals) a mermaid and also a mummy of Kappa (a mythical animal from Japanese lore). I've put a picture of that mummy on my blog:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q84Hze9wVME/TDxdbmCi1cI/AAAAAAAAA44/LYJN7Shjjs0/s1600/35740_405277101294_651456294_4594028_7677300_n.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q84Hze9wVME/TDxdbmCi1cI/AAAAAAAAA44/LYJN7Shjjs0/s1600/35740_405277101294_651456294_4594028_7677300_n.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on December 02, 2010, 07:38:18 AM
Great episode, enjoyed it greatly!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on December 08, 2010, 11:02:35 PM
Just listened to the Ice Man episode myself. . . .
Great podcast
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on December 09, 2010, 08:55:14 AM
The guest was really fascinating. Knocked this one out of the park!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on December 13, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
I just saw on Karen Stolznow's facebook was interviewing Loren Coleman for Monster Talk. I don't know any details beyond that.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: zack kruse on December 20, 2010, 10:21:53 PM
Interview with Matt Crowley on The Minnesota Ice Man.

Really great episode this week. Thanks, guys!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 21, 2010, 11:41:41 PM
I just saw on Karen Stolznow's facebook was interviewing Loren Coleman for Monster Talk. I don't know any details beyond that.

We had it scheduled but had some phone difficulties.  We're trying to resched for Jan.  We've been trying to hook up with Loren since this Summer.
Title: Ep #028 -MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 22, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
We interview author Christopher Dell about his art-history book MONSTERS (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594773947?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1594773947).
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: SkepticalEsquire on December 26, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Great interview with Christopher Dell.  Too bad about the sound problems (sounds like he is shelling and eating pistachios by an open window), but great content. 

I particularly related to his comment, "my journey [in skepticism and atheism] has been one of gradually losing fear."
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 27, 2010, 10:18:33 PM
Great interview with Christopher Dell.  Too bad about the sound problems (sounds like he is shelling and eating pistachios by an open window), but great content. 

I particularly related to his comment, "my journey [in skepticism and atheism] has been one of gradually losing fear."

He was brilliant but damned if we could figure out what the hell was up with the sound.  We were texting each other, making sure we were all muted, made sure he was on headphones - but it really sounded like an extra person was on the call and typing, eating and occasionally cranking up a jet engine.  Odd.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: SkepticalEsquire on December 28, 2010, 04:49:22 AM
Great interview with Christopher Dell.  Too bad about the sound problems (sounds like he is shelling and eating pistachios by an open window), but great content. 

I particularly related to his comment, "my journey [in skepticism and atheism] has been one of gradually losing fear."

He was brilliant but damned if we could figure out what the hell was up with the sound.  We were texting each other, making sure we were all muted, made sure he was on headphones - but it really sounded like an extra person was on the call and typing, eating and occasionally cranking up a jet engine.  Odd.


Oh well, call it ambiance.  Or EVP.
Title: MonsterTalk #028 - A Lizard's Tale
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 12, 2011, 06:58:10 PM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/029_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/029_Monstertalk.mp3)

In this episode, the MonsterTalk crew interviews Dr. Tony Russell, a professor at the University of Calgary who studies evolutionary and functional morphology in geckos. Dr. Russell’s work includes ethnobiology — the utilization of folklore to guide his research. He discuss the uses and limitations of this mode of research, as well as the remarkable features of the lizards that he studies.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on January 14, 2011, 09:40:08 AM
To sound like a broken record, another great interview with a real working scientist. I love how these guys can just talk for a solid hour with nary an "ummm" or "errrr".

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 14, 2011, 12:10:36 PM
To sound like a broken record, another great interview with a real working scientist. I love how these guys can just talk for a solid hour with nary an "ummm" or "errrr".

Most of them are college professors with experience talking in front of crowds - but I do actually spend a lot of time editing out that kind of thing when I can.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on January 14, 2011, 02:18:33 PM
Another great episode.

And for the record, I like the puns.

Maybe you should set up a poll? To pun or not to pun?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Chew on January 15, 2011, 01:25:02 AM
Righteous Indignation (http://www.ripodcast.co.uk/) podcast voted Monster Talk their favorite skeptical podcast of 2010. Skip ahead to 53 minutes to hear Hayley trying to mimic your "monster talk" intro.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 15, 2011, 11:16:57 AM
Righteous Indignation (http://www.ripodcast.co.uk/) podcast voted Monster Talk their favorite skeptical podcast of 2010. Skip ahead to 53 minutes to hear Hayley trying to mimic your "monster talk" intro.

Well, we're honored!

I wonder if we'll make Skeptiko's list?  I don't  think Alex is a fan.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on January 17, 2011, 10:28:47 AM
Righteous Indignation (http://www.ripodcast.co.uk/) podcast voted Monster Talk their favorite skeptical podcast of 2010. Skip ahead to 53 minutes to hear Hayley trying to mimic your "monster talk" intro.

I won 2009! Damn you, Monster Talk for unseating me!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on January 18, 2011, 06:24:06 AM
I won 2009! Damn you, Monster Talk for unseating me!

If I remember correctly, you won in 2009 only because you were hitting on Hayley Stevens, isn't it? ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on January 18, 2011, 09:31:57 AM
I won 2009! Damn you, Monster Talk for unseating me!

If I remember correctly, you won in 2009 only because you were hitting on Hayley Stevens, isn't it? ;D

I won in spite of that :)
Title: MonsterTalk #030 - Unmasking the Ninja
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 26, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
http://bit.ly/MT030Ninja (http://bit.ly/MT030Ninja)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61nUem0171L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
If you downloaded the episode before 1/26/2011 at 3:00 pm EST it was missing important parts of the audio.  Please re-download!
This week the hosts of MonsterTalk take on the mysterious, mystical, legendary menace of the ninja! Should ninjas be considered monsters? They come out at night, have mysterious powers and use fear and lethality to wreak havoc. But to be sure, we Ask a Ninja (http://www.askaninja.com). Also, we interview Matt Alt, co-author (with Hiroko Yoda) of Ninja Attack: True Tales of Assassins, Samurai and Outlaws. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/477003119X?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=477003119X)

In this episode
What are/were ninjas?
What was their purpose?
How did they make the transition to SuperHero?
How were they different than samurai?
What did real ninja look like?
Where did black-suits come from?
What were some of the super-secret ninja equipment? (shuriken, etc.)
What are some of the myths and legends surrounding ninjas, esp. supernatural powers and abilities?
What did it cost to hire a Ninja?
What were “ninja spells?”
Plus much, much more!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rider on January 26, 2011, 04:17:56 PM
As far as I can tell iTunes is still sending out the bad version.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on January 26, 2011, 06:16:20 PM
As far as I can tell iTunes is still sending out the bad version.

They cache it - not much way to fix that. I'll have to investigate. :(

In the mean time, the very funny intro can be streamed from URL in the show notes.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rider on January 26, 2011, 06:51:22 PM
As far as I can tell iTunes is still sending out the bad version.

They cache it - not much way to fix that. I'll have to investigate. :(

In the mean time, the very funny intro can be streamed from URL in the show notes.

I think your best bet would be just upload a new one.  Just call it Unmasking  The Ninja Fixed.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rider on January 26, 2011, 10:55:07 PM
Actually did not notice this but it's already fixxed.  The one in the iTunes store was still the old version but it downloaded the fixed version.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on January 27, 2011, 02:22:08 PM
 >:(

Not happy.

Not happy at all.

Way to ruin a cherished childhood memory.

Ninjas being nothing more than some farmer eavesdropping on conversations and not some highly-trained assassin who could kill you with his eyelashes.

But on the plus side, I can get to correct everyone the next time a ninja turns up in a film.  ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on February 26, 2011, 04:58:45 PM
Theres a new episode (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/MonsterTalk_Exclusive_BenRadford_ChupacabraMystery_Chapter1_Promo.mp3) up - a preview of Ben's new book Tracking The Chupacabra
Title: MonsterTalk #031 - Tracking the Chupacabra
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 03, 2011, 01:46:25 AM
Theres a new episode (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/MonsterTalk_Exclusive_BenRadford_ChupacabraMystery_Chapter1_Promo.mp3) up - a preview of Ben's new book Tracking The Chupacabra

Indeed:

Tracking the Chupacabra

This week MonsterTalk co-host Benjamin Radford becomes the interviewee! Radford discusses his newest book, Tracking the Chupacabra. The culmination of a five-year investigation, this book may provide an actual solution to these mysterious humanoid sightings.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on March 03, 2011, 01:57:05 AM
It was interesting, too.

Although of course there was a bit of overlap with previous episodes, particularly the Chupacabra episode, obviously. Also less puns. :D

Now I just need to wait for it be on sale so I find out about these constant hints of the new explanation Ben found... I need closure!
Title: MonsterTalk #032 - Is Skookum fair dinkum?
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 16, 2011, 08:40:09 AM
We interview bigfoot researcher Daniel Perez on the Skookum cast - which some say is among the best evidence for bigfoot.
Listen Now! (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/032_Monstertalk.mp3)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on March 16, 2011, 01:17:56 PM
Listening now!


Very interesting!
Title: MonsterTalk #033 - Tasks, Flasks and Dr. Pask
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 30, 2011, 12:06:09 AM
In which we discuss Thylacines, the latest bigfoot video, resurrection of extinct species and many other things.  Featuring an interview with Dr. Andrew Pask, whose team of genetics experts successfully resurrected a gene from an extinct animal and caused it to be expressed in a living one.

Link will be live on Wed.
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/033_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/033_Monstertalk.mp3)


(http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/files/imagecache/news/files/20080520_thylacine.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #033 - Tasks, Flasks and Dr. Pask
Post by: Crowskie on March 30, 2011, 01:18:01 AM
In which we discuss Thylacines, the latest bigfoot video, resurrection of extinct species and many other things.  Featuring an interview with Dr. Andrew Pask, whose team of genetics experts successfully resurrected a gene from an extinct animal and caused it to be expressed in a living one.

Link will be live on Wed.
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/033_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/033_Monstertalk.mp3)


(http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/files/imagecache/news/files/20080520_thylacine.jpg)

Yay!
Title: MonsterTalk - #034 - Joe Nickell / ManBeasts
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 20, 2011, 04:42:02 PM
Interview with Joe Nickell about his latest book.
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/034_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/034_Monstertalk.mp3)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - #034 - Joe Nickell / ManBeasts
Post by: quirk3k on April 21, 2011, 05:33:05 AM
Interview with Joe Nickell about his latest book.
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/034_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/034_Monstertalk.mp3)

W00t! Good Episode
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - #034 - Joe Nickell / ManBeasts
Post by: JMA on April 21, 2011, 08:56:16 AM
W00t! Good Episode

Yep, Joe Nickell is really cool...  ;)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on April 21, 2011, 02:13:31 PM
May I make a small request? I don't know about other people, but at the end when you have the ad for Skeptic Magazine, can you lower the volume on that, please? I find myself having to reach for the volume control everytime it appears. I think I had the same problem when I listened to Skepticality as well.

Other than that insy winsy minor niggle, another great episode.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 21, 2011, 11:25:00 PM
I don't know about other people, but at the end when you have the ad for Skeptic Magazine, can you lower the volume on that, please? I find myself having to reach for the volume control everytime it appears. I think I had the same problem when I listened to Skepticality as well.

Sure!  I run that promo as part of my deal with Skeptic Magazine - but there's no reason I can't make it quieter.
I will try and remember!!!  You're the second person who has commented on it.  I'd also like to get some new promo audio - but would need to get that cleared w/ Skeptic.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on April 25, 2011, 12:24:56 PM
Thanks. I get why it's there and I have to listen to it to see if there are any out-takes at the end. They're worth a couple seconds of scrabbling if needed.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 10, 2011, 08:44:55 PM
Well I remembered to lower the volume - hopefully the end result sounds ok.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on May 11, 2011, 12:44:02 AM
Just saying thanks for making the program.
I started listening to your podcast a couple of weeks back.
Being Australian, most of the stories are all new to me.

Aside from Bigfoot, who I've been compared to on this very forum.

(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6P3JSOyZemU/TZ95br9mYOI/AAAAAAAAAWI/Xno6wgE7u44/MissionBrown.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 11, 2011, 10:30:36 AM
Just saying thanks for making the program.
I started listening to your podcast a couple of weeks back.
Being Australian, most of the stories are all new to me.

Aside from Bigfoot, who I've been compared to on this very forum.

(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6P3JSOyZemU/TZ95br9mYOI/AAAAAAAAAWI/Xno6wgE7u44/MissionBrown.jpg)
Welcome aboard!
Title: Episode #035 - The Zombie Autopsies
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 11, 2011, 10:31:50 AM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/035_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/035_Monstertalk.mp3)
(http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/11/05/11/images/MonsterTalk-zombie-sm.png)

The Zombie Autopsies

This week on MonsterTalk, we interview Harvard medical doctor Steven Schlozman, author of The Zombie Autopsies and get inside the walking dead to discuss a plausible mechanism for the zombie apocalypse. It took a lot of guts, but in this episode we discuss:

* How did a doctor become interested in zombies?
* What can zombies teach us about neurology?
* Which is scarier:infection or cannibalism?
* Why don’t zombies have sex?
* What’s the best way to slice a brain?
* What do brains taste like?

Plus much, much more!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on May 12, 2011, 02:49:08 AM
Steven Schlozman was really a good guest. That guy is really fun to listen to!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on May 12, 2011, 03:57:25 AM
Damnit. Im going to have to start hiding my wallet and locking my Amazon account before listening to Monster Talk.

The book sounds amazing, and the interview was great. Its always fun to hear somebody actually excited about knowledge, whether the subject is fictional or real... I even agreed with 95% of the opinions expressed about what makes a good zombie.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on May 12, 2011, 03:59:03 AM
Well I remembered to lower the volume - hopefully the end result sounds ok.

Perfect. Thank you very much.

That was an awesome interview. Can't wait for the next zombie instalment.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 16, 2011, 12:55:49 AM
So... I do these episodes and we don't generate a lot of discussion.  Not here, not on the Skeptic forums, etc...  Are we not controversial enough?  Do the episodes make you think?  What does it take to spark a conversation?  Do I need to do a nude album cover? 
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on May 16, 2011, 12:57:39 AM
A nude Big Foot!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on May 16, 2011, 01:22:11 AM
The episodes are great listening, its just that the result is more of an "Oh, thats interesting" or an "Ooh, thats cool" rather than any disagreement or controversy. Especially for the interviews with authors, there isnt really anything more to discuss. If we want more information or have unanswered questions, we're probably going to go buy the book and see if the answer is in there before looking elsewhere.

And, partly, I think maybe they dont generate much discussion simply because you guys are too good. I tend to finish an episode with a feeling that the topic has been "covered", and with a rough idea of where to go for more information if Im still interested. I just dont feel like I have much to add, apart from saying that I enjoyed it. Although that may be due to being an Aussie, and as such I dont have a lot of personal connection to the monsters you usually cover so that I have any personal anecdotes to add.


Although come to think of it, I was going to comment on the "reasons zombies are scary" that you went over. You mentioned infection, etc, and I was going to talk about the zombie as a representative of the basic human fear of unavoidable mortality that Ive always found quite striking. Problem was it looked like it was going to turn into a 1000 word essay and I ran out of time and motivation to actually think it through :P
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on May 16, 2011, 01:31:49 AM
Yeah, what Caffeine said.

Excellent topics, with excellent non-aggressive interviews.
I like that in a show, it's what keeps me interested.
Those other "controversial" styled shows just give me the pip.

I love SGU and Are We Alone? and I never go on the forums to discuss those shows either.
So don't worry about the lack of discussion, I think that your 10k+ downloads per month speak volumes!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on May 16, 2011, 01:38:26 AM
Oh, I am also happy to discuss how the episodes have only been coming out about once every 3 or 4 weeks, and that the wait between episodes is unacceptable! A travesty, I say!

Oliver - please sir i want some more (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrgxHvNNUc#)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on May 16, 2011, 01:47:41 AM
This hasn't hit me yet as I've not got through them all.
But the wait is indicative of the quality and effort to get the content together :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on May 16, 2011, 01:48:07 AM
So... I do these episodes and we don't generate a lot of discussion.  Not here, not on the Skeptic forums, etc...  Are we not controversial enough?  Do the episodes make you think?  What does it take to spark a conversation?  Do I need to do a nude album cover?

Don't worry. Monster Talk is my favorite skeptical podcast. I love it. It makes me think a lot. After, discussions on a forum are generally a waste of time. I do it when I have lots of free time, otherwise...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 16, 2011, 08:18:45 AM
Thanks all!  That's good information.

I wish I wasn't so busy. I'd love to do MT as a weekly show - but it takes me about 10 hours between booking, interview, editing, release and It is all I can do to squeeze that kind of time out ever 2 to 3 weeks.  I'm too busy.  >:(

Maybe this summer I'll get more done with the kids out of school?   We'll see. :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rider on May 23, 2011, 02:53:31 AM
Thought people might like to know that the Documentary Channel has bought Ghost Bird they premiered it Friday and it will replay again on June 1st.  It' imposable to dig through their schedule, but I'm sure this will be replayed constantly just like everything else they air.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 23, 2011, 04:18:38 PM
Thought people might like to know that the Documentary Channel has bought Ghost Bird they premiered it Friday and it will replay again on June 1st.  It' imposable to dig through their schedule, but I'm sure this will be replayed constantly just like everything else they air.

Thanks!

I'll post this on facebook.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rider on May 23, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Thought people might like to know that the Documentary Channel has bought Ghost Bird they premiered it Friday and it will replay again on June 1st.  It' imposable to dig through their schedule, but I'm sure this will be replayed constantly just like everything else they air.

Thanks!

I'll post this on facebook.

It was funny I had just listened to that episode Friday morning and was going to try to track down a copy of it.  Flipping through the channels I see it listed.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on May 24, 2011, 12:08:09 AM
It was funny I had just listened to that episode Friday morning and was going to try to track down a copy of it.  Flipping through the channels I see it listed.

It's available streaming on Netflix now!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on May 31, 2011, 05:04:53 PM
Another blurry "bigfoot" video
Sorry, there's an add before it starts.

http://media.theage.com.au/news/world-news/its-either-bigfoot-or-someone-very-lost-2397558.html (http://media.theage.com.au/news/world-news/its-either-bigfoot-or-someone-very-lost-2397558.html)

Looks like CG to me.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rai on June 01, 2011, 06:05:36 AM
Another blurry "bigfoot" video
Sorry, there's an add before it starts.

http://media.theage.com.au/news/world-news/its-either-bigfoot-or-someone-very-lost-2397558.html (http://media.theage.com.au/news/world-news/its-either-bigfoot-or-someone-very-lost-2397558.html)

Looks like CG to me.

She claims that she took the footage at Downriver Park, Spokane, WA.

This is (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&q=downriver+park+spokane&fb=1&hq=downriver+park&hnear=0x549e185c30bbe7e5:0xddfcc9d60b84d9b1,Spokane,+WA&hl=en&view=map&cid=15490141843737304443&iwloc=A&ved=0CBIQpQY&sa=X&ei=Dw7mTfXYLYqK_Qbf8pWNDw)Downriver Park

Afterwards she went home and was surprised to find the Loch Ness Monster in her bathtub. :P
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on June 01, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Another blurry "bigfoot" video
Sorry, there's an add before it starts.

http://media.theage.com.au/news/world-news/its-either-bigfoot-or-someone-very-lost-2397558.html (http://media.theage.com.au/news/world-news/its-either-bigfoot-or-someone-very-lost-2397558.html)

Looks like CG to me.
She claims that she took the footage at Downriver Park, Spokane, WA.

This is (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&q=downriver+park+spokane&fb=1&hq=downriver+park&hnear=0x549e185c30bbe7e5:0xddfcc9d60b84d9b1,Spokane,+WA&hl=en&view=map&cid=15490141843737304443&iwloc=A&ved=0CBIQpQY&sa=X&ei=Dw7mTfXYLYqK_Qbf8pWNDw)Downriver Park

Afterwards she went home and was surprised to find the Loch Ness Monster in her bathtub. :P

Wowee, right in the middle of a real wilderness and all!
Title: MonsterTalk #036 - Searching For Sasquatch
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 09, 2011, 01:53:44 AM
Is cryptozoology science or pseudoscience? Do scientists ever really study cryptozoology, or merely ignore the field entirely? This week we dig into the history of Cryptozoology itself—focusing on the search for America’s most famous cryptid: Sasquatch. This week on MonsterTalk, we’re joined by Dr. Brian Regal to talk about his latest book, Searching For Sasquatch: Crackpots, Eggheads and Cryptozoology. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0230111475/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217153&creative=399701&creativeASIN=0230111475)

Listen to episode 036 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/036_Monstertalk.mp3)

Join us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_140469379305225&ap=1)

Hey - for future episodes I will only be posting these show notes at the Facebook page.  I do most of this work by myself and it is too time-consuming to try and keep up with multiple sites...  So please join us at Facebook and hopefully you'll meet some other listeners!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #036 - Searching For Sasquatch
Post by: Caffiene on June 09, 2011, 01:58:58 AM
Damn... I dont use facebook. Ill miss the discussion if it dies here.

I suppose Ill have to go RSS to know when there are new episodes.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #036 - Searching For Sasquatch
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on June 09, 2011, 11:15:34 AM
Damn... I dont use facebook. Ill miss the discussion if it dies here.

I suppose Ill have to go RSS to know when there are new episodes.

You can be my super secret MonsterTalk agent!  By the power invested in me, through this magic plaster-cast of bigfoot's footprint - I knight you, Sir Poster Boy!  *trumpet fan-fare*  ;)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #036 - Searching For Sasquatch
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on June 09, 2011, 07:16:56 PM
Damn... I dont use facebook. Ill miss the discussion if it dies here.

I suppose Ill have to go RSS to know when there are new episodes.

You can be my super secret MonsterTalk agent!  By the power invested in me, through this magic plaster-cast of bigfoot's footprint - I knight you, Sir Poster Boy!  *trumpet fan-fare*  ;)

Haha Caffiene has been volunteered!

Are there any Yowie sightings in/near Geelong?
The only cryptids near me are the ubiquitous Hipster. I call 'em cryptids because they're either really fast and can be seen everywhere at once, or there a million of them and they all look the same, like some genetic experiment.

Hold on a sec!

Hipsters are Chupacabra!
They fit the profile, mange, underfed, goat sucking....
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #036 - Searching For Sasquatch
Post by: Caffiene on June 09, 2011, 10:10:14 PM
You can be my super secret MonsterTalk agent!  By the power invested in me, through this magic plaster-cast of bigfoot's footprint - I knight you, Sir Poster Boy!  *trumpet fan-fare*  ;)

I can do that. :)

... Im helpding!

Are there any Yowie sightings in/near Geelong?

Nah... Id barely heard of the yowie as anything more than a childrens story until I got involved in skepticism.
The main one we get is the old "big cat" thing. The Otway Ranges have had quite a few supposed panther sightings.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #036 - Searching For Sasquatch
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on June 09, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
You can be my super secret MonsterTalk agent!  By the power invested in me, through this magic plaster-cast of bigfoot's footprint - I knight you, Sir Poster Boy!  *trumpet fan-fare*  ;)

I can do that. :)

... Im helpding!

Are there any Yowie sightings in/near Geelong?

Nah... Id barely heard of the yowie as anything more than a childrens story until I got involved in skepticism.
The main one we get is the old "big cat" thing. The Otway Ranges have had quite a few supposed panther sightings.

Yowie must be more of a snowie mountains thing.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on July 07, 2011, 03:05:16 PM
Doing my public service bit.

New episode (http://monstertalk.skeptic.com/haley-stevens-lake-monster-mysteries) available at all the usual outlets. This week, Hayley Stevens from the Righteous Indignation podcast is on to talk about BowNessie, a lake monster that haunts Windermere.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rider on July 07, 2011, 05:20:25 PM
Wow really short episode.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rider on July 08, 2011, 11:57:27 AM
I enjoyed this episode, but my god stop saying "umm" and "ahh", it was painful.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: quirk3k on July 08, 2011, 03:44:19 PM
LOVED IT!!

The tire jokes were punicious!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Hayley on July 09, 2011, 02:01:57 PM
I enjoyed this episode, but my god stop saying "umm" and "ahh", it was painful.

Apologies, but it's what I do when I'm, um..., thinking of an answer to a question.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on July 09, 2011, 09:37:05 PM
Im guessing its more of an artifact of Blake's current workload. Not as much time to um, edit it to that level.

The problem here is that it reminds me that I havent listened to RI in a few months, which makes me sad. Somebody invent a time machine so I can have more hours in the week.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 12, 2011, 05:06:02 PM
Im guessing its more of an artifact of Blake's current workload. Not as much time to um, edit it to that level.

The problem here is that it reminds me that I havent listened to RI in a few months, which makes me sad. Somebody invent a time machine so I can have more hours in the week.

QFT - I usually spend more time editing those out.  :(  Sorry.  I have set my bars too high.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on July 12, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
For the record, I listened after posting that and even having been forewarned I didnt actually notice the ums and ahs myself.

I did love the tire puns too. Hayleys "treading" on thin ice at the end almost seemed to go unnoticed...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Hayley on July 26, 2011, 07:48:18 AM
For the record, I listened after posting that and even having been forewarned I didnt actually notice the ums and ahs myself.

I did love the tire puns too. Hayleys "treading" on thin ice at the end almost seemed to go unnoticed...

Well, I'm glad SOMEONE noticed it  :D
Title: MonsterTalk #038 - Ancient Alien Astronauts
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on July 27, 2011, 07:22:53 PM
In this episode

Morning of the Magicians
Chariots of the Gods
The claims people commonly make
about ancient aliens
The History Channel’s
Ancient Aliens series
A brief overview of some of the more popular “anachronistic” evidence
    *The Antikythera mechanism
    *The Baghdad Battery
    *The Saqqara Bird & gold “airplanes” found in South America
    *The Crystal Skulls[/list]
How archaeologists test “ancient astronaut” theories
How archaeology works
Is the Venus of Willendorf porn?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: moj on July 28, 2011, 06:09:57 AM
great show, Dr. Feder salty ways crack me up.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: craig on July 28, 2011, 10:23:53 AM
+1

You can't go wrong with him as a guest.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: quirk3k on July 28, 2011, 11:10:14 AM
F**k Yeah! you can't f**king go wrong with himthat mother-f**ker as a guest.

Fixed it for you ;)
Title: MonsterTalk #039 - A Connecticut Haunting in a Keen Author’s Court
Post by: Caffiene on August 11, 2011, 01:03:08 AM
New episode up (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/039_Monstertalk.mp3)


The 2009 film The Haunting in Connecticut is purported to be based on true events. Similarly, there was the 2002 documentary A Haunting in Connecticut (which aired on The Discovery Channel and helped spawn the series A Haunting). These true events have been compiled by author Ray Garton into his book In A Dark Place: The Story of a True Haunting. The shocking tale contains adult elements of a graphic nature, and if true, described a terrifying case of a demonic and ghostly attack on a family. But Garton now says that the allegedly true events weren’t quite what they seemed.

Content Advisory: This episode of MonsterTalk contains adult themes and coarse language.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on August 11, 2011, 01:05:14 AM
sweet
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on August 11, 2011, 02:05:59 AM
Really interesting episode.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on August 11, 2011, 02:32:53 AM
Really interesting episode.

Mine got interrupted by a team meeting. >:(
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on August 11, 2011, 02:44:08 AM
Yeah, interesting discussion. Theres been interviews with "exposition" writers (eg, Ben of course) who've written books about the real facts behind hyperbolic monster tales, but its really interesting to hear from the other side of the fence - someone who has written one of those hyperbolic tales.

Matt Baxter was a great guest host, too. Slipped right in without missing a beat.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorOHM on August 11, 2011, 04:05:24 AM
Really interesting episode.

Mine got interrupted by a team meeting. >:(

Well, you can always finish listening to it later, the technology these days allows for that!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: eliensign on August 11, 2011, 04:12:28 AM
That was a fabulous episode.  I find these behind the scenes of the report interviews to be the most fascinating.    I'm saddened that Ray Garden is loathe to publish a book about his investigative experience.  (C'mon! Just say 'no' to Sanity! Cthulu would be proud).  A 2nd edition with an extended appendix about the reality behind the 'non-fiction' would be marvelous.  Then, those who wish to read the book will also have immediate access to the truth.

When I was 14 I read Communion, which was about alien abductions.
I didn't sleep at night for three months.
This is despite the fact that I noticed all the other alien abductees had jobs like musician, dancer, and fiction writer. 
"Hmm...that's weird, this might not be true."

If I had known about Sleep Paralysis, Hypnogogia, or even the stories from different cultures describing beings at the foot of one's bed, I think I would have managed to not only sleep at night, but do so with the lights Off. 

"Non-Fiction" slapped on a book makes me believe it even more.  If a second edition was released with a detailed explanation about the reality of the book's creation, I would not believe in demons I had never heard of before.  Yes, there is the internet, but one must find both the ghost story AND the retraction on separate occasions, and ghost stories tend to live in the public consciousness for far longer.

Thank you, skeptics, for helping me sleep at night.

***EDIT***

I have listened to the episode again, and have refined my opinion:  Just say 'no' to Cthulu.  KEEP your sanity. 







Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on August 11, 2011, 04:16:24 AM
Personally, Ive found MonsterTalk prevents me from sleeping at night. But thats mostly just Blake's puns.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on August 17, 2011, 07:01:48 AM
Ray is hilarious. You can hear another interview with him at the Ireligi Irrele that mormon podcast:

http://www.irreligiosophy.com/?p=1583 (http://www.irreligiosophy.com/?p=1583)

The boys also dissect the movie here:

http://www.irreligiosophy.com/?p=1461 (http://www.irreligiosophy.com/?p=1461)

Anyway, great show. I can't get enough of this guy. Especially his interactions with the Warrens. Amazing. The SGU guys cut their teeth on them.

I agree with Blake's wife. I liked American Werewolf in London better. Not that I didn't like The Howling. And hat tip to the masterful non spoilers of 30 year old movies! I'd have spoiled them. (30 years? Really? I could ethically date a woman born in the year of The Howling... sigh.)


Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: SkepticalEsquire on August 24, 2011, 12:45:04 PM
......... (30 years? Really? I could ethically date a woman born in the year of The Howling... sigh.)

Sounds like a cheesy Fantasy Novel: "Year of the Howling"

Really enjoyable episode: Monster Talk just gets better and better each episode.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Earl_of_Edmonds on August 24, 2011, 02:18:23 PM
A Connecticut Haunting in a Keen Author’s Court is one of the best they have done.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Chew on August 25, 2011, 12:19:47 AM
Wow! Great episode.

If you like the SGU's critiques of Ed and Lorraine Warren you'll love this episode.
Title: MonsterTalk #040 - Dead Men Are a Ghoul’s Best Friend
Post by: Caffiene on September 08, 2011, 01:52:48 AM
New eipsode: Dead Men Are a Ghoul’s Best Friend

"IN THIS EPISODE of MonsterTalk we discuss Ghouls and their real world counterpart: cannibals. The hosts are joined by Carole A. Travis-Henikoff, author of Dinner With A Cannibal: The Complete History of Mankind’s Oldest Taboo. This episode also features guest MonsterTalker Adam Levenstein, a long-time friend of the show whose background combines anthropology and skepticism."

Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/040_Monstertalk.mp3)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on September 08, 2011, 02:28:32 AM
Yay!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: craig on September 09, 2011, 11:54:46 AM
I don't like to criticize a show that I sincerely like but ...

The intro felt like a total bait-and-switch to me.  I understand that ghouls are cannibals but there didn't seem to be any real connection between the "monster" and the interview.  It would have made sense if you talked about how real-life cannibals inspired the myths of ghouls but you didn't.  As a matter of fact, the whole thing was kind of anti-monster; the discussion was all about how prevalent and "normal" cannibalism is (or has been).

While I'm in "cranky old man" mode, I will also complain about the sound quality.  I had to infer half of what the guest said through context.

I hope that you understand that I am only bothering to complain because I hope that it will be useful.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on September 10, 2011, 04:56:11 AM
The intro felt like a total bait-and-switch to me.  I understand that ghouls are cannibals but there didn't seem to be any real connection between the "monster" and the interview.

+ 1 I had the same impression.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 10, 2011, 05:30:45 PM
I don't like to criticize a show that I sincerely like but ...

The intro felt like a total bait-and-switch to me.  I understand that ghouls are cannibals but there didn't seem to be any real connection between the "monster" and the interview.  It would have made sense if you talked about how real-life cannibals inspired the myths of ghouls but you didn't.  As a matter of fact, the whole thing was kind of anti-monster; the discussion was all about how prevalent and "normal" cannibalism is (or has been).

I had intended to inject a really cool bit of audio from another interview I have in the hopper on Djinn - but had a lot of trouble fixing the audio.  It literally took me about 3x as long to get this episode out because of all the phone trouble poor Carole was having.  That being said, the clip will be in the upcoming Djinn episode so hopefully you'll get your full ghoul itch scratched shortly.

So - audio quality was a known issue.  In fact Carole is still having phone issues - but hopefully you could make out most of what she had to say. 

I think when we started the interview I figured we'd be talking more about the Jeffrey Dahmer kind of scenario - really creepy - only to discover that this particular kind of cannibalism is quite rare (although very scary) while mundane (if you can call it that) cannibalism is pervasive throughout the world across just about every culture.

Anyway, I hope you'll forgive me not having more ghoul content - it is coming.  Maybe it will be the tonic in our episode on Djinn.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: craig on September 10, 2011, 10:46:51 PM
I'll be listening!

Thanks.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on September 11, 2011, 07:48:45 PM
I don't like to criticize a show that I sincerely like but ...

The intro felt like a total bait-and-switch to me.  I understand that ghouls are cannibals but there didn't seem to be any real connection between the "monster" and the interview.  It would have made sense if you talked about how real-life cannibals inspired the myths of ghouls but you didn't.  As a matter of fact, the whole thing was kind of anti-monster; the discussion was all about how prevalent and "normal" cannibalism is (or has been).

I had intended to inject a really cool bit of audio from another interview I have in the hopper on Djinn - but had a lot of trouble fixing the audio.  It literally took me about 3x as long to get this episode out because of all the phone trouble poor Carole was having.  That being said, the clip will be in the upcoming Djinn episode so hopefully you'll get your full ghoul itch scratched shortly.

So - audio quality was a known issue.  In fact Carole is still having phone issues - but hopefully you could make out most of what she had to say. 

I think when we started the interview I figured we'd be talking more about the Jeffrey Dahmer kind of scenario - really creepy - only to discover that this particular kind of cannibalism is quite rare (although very scary) while mundane (if you can call it that) cannibalism is pervasive throughout the world across just about every culture.

Anyway, I hope you'll forgive me not having more ghoul content - it is coming.  Maybe it will be the tonic in our episode on Djinn.

Don't know how you managed a Cockney American accent, but I found it amusing.
You almost nailed the Cockney, but couldn't quite let go of your native accent.  ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on September 12, 2011, 08:31:32 AM
A fascinating episode regardless. The bit about the guy who would hunt and cook young women was a bit disturbing. I listened to it on my drive to my home town. I had my 25 year old ESL Chinese friend with me. What she made of it, I don't know. "What are these crazy shows you listen to?"
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 21, 2011, 09:37:22 AM
Don't know how you managed a Cockney American accent, but I found it amusing.
You almost nailed the Cockney, but couldn't quite let go of your native accent.  ;D

I do silly voices at home + watch a crapload of BBC.  I don't know if anybody from England thinks my accent was passable, but I'll take Oz's opinion as a good sign. :)  Thanks!
Title: MonsterTalk #041 - The Big Bad Wolf
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on September 21, 2011, 09:40:06 AM
The Big Bad Wolf
Play Episode. (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/041_Monstertalk.mp3)
Chances are if you listen to MonsterTalk you probably like nature documentaries. No doubt you’ve seen stories about wolves and heard words to the effect that wolves are often maligned and that wolves have an undeserved reputation for being killers. Yet how does one reconcile the idea that dangerous wolves are a myth with the many myths and fairy tales which feature wolves as the villain? In this episode of MonsterTalk we take on the legend of the big, bad wolf and what we find may surprise you. This episode features an interview with author Jay M. Smith, about his book Monsters of the Gévaudan: The Making of a Beast. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674047168/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0674047168)

(http://www.newanimal.org/beast_of_gevaudan.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DVMKurmes on September 21, 2011, 06:44:14 PM
I really enjoyed this episode, and plan on buying the book soon. Interestingly, there have been a couple of human fatalities associated with wild wolves in the last 5 years in North America;
http://www.hcn.org/issues/315/16084 (http://www.hcn.org/issues/315/16084)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35913715/ns/us_news-life/t/fatal-wolf-attack-unnerves-alaska-village/#.TnpnMNSTPAs (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35913715/ns/us_news-life/t/fatal-wolf-attack-unnerves-alaska-village/#.TnpnMNSTPAs)
Still an exceedingly rare occurrence, but it seems that certain activities like running in wild areas where large predators are present and allowing large predators to eat at garbage dumps, etc. are not a good idea.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on September 21, 2011, 06:52:08 PM
Don't know how you managed a Cockney American accent, but I found it amusing.
You almost nailed the Cockney, but couldn't quite let go of your native accent.  ;D

I do silly voices at home + watch a crapload of BBC.  I don't know if anybody from England thinks my accent was passable, but I'll take Oz's opinion as a good sign. :)  Thanks!

According to this bloke, Australian is just evolved cockney.
(http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/165481.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: craig on September 22, 2011, 10:15:45 AM
Great episode!

I really enjoyed the depth of the discussion as well as the topic.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on September 22, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
Don't know how you managed a Cockney American accent, but I found it amusing.
You almost nailed the Cockney, but couldn't quite let go of your native accent.  ;D

I do silly voices at home + watch a crapload of BBC.  I don't know if anybody from England thinks my accent was passable, but I'll take Oz's opinion as a good sign. :)  Thanks!

Compared to most American's attempts at Cockney (looking at you Dick van Dyke), it was pretty good.

Yet another cool episode.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Chew on September 27, 2011, 05:44:02 PM
Great episode!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on October 06, 2011, 08:16:02 AM
Part two of the Big Bad Wolf series is up. One complaint though: that interview was too damned short! I get that time is an issue with guests, but that was getting really interesting and then..... 'sorry, have to go'.

Arrggghhhh!  :argh:

Thinking about it though, having your listeners wanting more is a good thing. Right?  ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 06, 2011, 09:45:23 PM
Part two of the Big Bad Wolf series is up. One complaint though: that interview was too damned short! I get that time is an issue with guests, but that was getting really interesting and then..... 'sorry, have to go'.

Arrggghhhh!  :argh:

Thinking about it though, having your listeners wanting more is a good thing. Right?  ;D
Well, he was a fascinating interview - but he wouldn't actually make an appointment with me so I'd been trying to pin him down for months.  So when I finally got him and he said he could only talk for a few mins I had about 10 seconds to decide if I wanted to grab the interview or risk going another month or two without... so I snagged it and was glad for his time.  (But yeah, I'd prefer a longer interview if I'd been able.  Like that one part where he said, "we needn't go into that" -- normally I'd have said "yes, do go into it!" but in this case he was rushing to get through and I had very little to add.)

I'm glad you enjoyed it - think of it as a MonsterTalk quickie. ;)

-DA
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on October 09, 2011, 07:05:54 AM
Geez, thanks, was listening to it while hiking through the woods  >:D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on October 09, 2011, 06:56:45 PM
Part two of the Big Bad Wolf series is up. One complaint though: that interview was too damned short! I get that time is an issue with guests, but that was getting really interesting and then..... 'sorry, have to go'.

Arrggghhhh!  :argh:

Thinking about it though, having your listeners wanting more is a good thing. Right?  ;D
Well, he was a fascinating interview - but he wouldn't actually make an appointment with me so I'd been trying to pin him down for months.  So when I finally got him and he said he could only talk for a few mins I had about 10 seconds to decide if I wanted to grab the interview or risk going another month or two without... so I snagged it and was glad for his time.  (But yeah, I'd prefer a longer interview if I'd been able.  Like that one part where he said, "we needn't go into that" -- normally I'd have said "yes, do go into it!" but in this case he was rushing to get through and I had very little to add.)

I'm glad you enjoyed it - think of it as a MonsterTalk quickie. ;)

-DA

Just makes me glad that we don't have these beasts in Australia.
Sure we have the Dingo, but as far as I can recall,(This is from a lecture I attended way back on 2002, unfortunately I don't remember the name of the Lecturer) attacks on Meat Bipeds are more commonly perpetrated by Dingo/Domestic dog hybrids. Something about the mix makes them much more aggressive.

There are one or two monster myths surrounding these four legged beasts, I'm sure ;)


Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on October 09, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/09/sunsquatch/ (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/09/sunsquatch/)
(http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2011/10/friedman_bigfoot.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Dionysus on October 09, 2011, 10:15:14 PM
Gasquatch?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on October 21, 2011, 09:32:02 PM
On wolves, this is extremely interesting
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/radioactive-wolves/full-episode/7190/ (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/radioactive-wolves/full-episode/7190/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 25, 2011, 11:39:48 PM
Tomorrow's episode is about Mokele Mbembe...
Title: MonsterTalk #043 - Crypto O' Zoology: Dinosaurs in Africa
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on October 26, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
FROM THE LOST WORLD to Alley Oop toThe Flintstones, the idea of dinosaurs and humans living together has captured the imagination of readers across the globe. But there are some who believe that this idea isn’t fictional. Is there a population of sauropod dinosaurs living in Africa in modern times?

In this episode of MonsterTalk, we interview paleontologist Dr. Donald Prothero at TAM9 about his research into the creature known as Mokele Mbembe! Cryptozoology, paleontology and creationism converge in the jungles of the Congo.


http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/043_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/043_Monstertalk.mp3)
Title: MonsterTalk #044 - Richard Wiseman and the episode without a monster...
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 09, 2011, 01:32:55 PM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/044_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/044_Monstertalk.mp3)

Today on MonsterTalk, we share an interview with Dr. Richard Wiseman recorded at TAM9—the James Randi Educational Foundation’s “Amazing Meeting.” It is a wide-ranging interview that discusses Wiseman’s new book, Paranormality: Paranormality: Why we see what isn’t there, as well as ghosts, psychic dogs and the trouble with counting dolphins. It has naught to do with monsters, but it is an amusing interview and provides a little background into the upcoming debate between MonsterTalk and Alex Tsakiris’ Skeptiko.

Title: MonsterTalk vs Skeptiko
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on November 16, 2011, 07:01:22 AM
A special debate between MonsterTalk & Skeptiko is up this week as episode #170 on Skepticality.  (Not really "MonsterTalk" since we don't really talk about monsters - hence the venue.)

http://traffic.libsyn.com/skepticality/Skepticality_170.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skepticality/Skepticality_170.mp3)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #044 - Richard Wiseman and the episode without a monster...
Post by: JMA on November 16, 2011, 07:40:59 AM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/044_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/044_Monstertalk.mp3)

Today on MonsterTalk, we share an interview with Dr. Richard Wiseman recorded at TAM9—the James Randi Educational Foundation’s “Amazing Meeting.”

That interview was insane, but I kinda enjoyed it. ;D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk vs Skeptiko
Post by: moj on November 17, 2011, 07:56:46 AM
A special debate between MonsterTalk & Skeptiko is up this week as episode #170 on Skepticality.  (Not really "MonsterTalk" since we don't really talk about monsters - hence the venue.)

http://traffic.libsyn.com/skepticality/Skepticality_170.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skepticality/Skepticality_170.mp3)

Wow! listening now and forgot how much he likes to redefine things as he goes.  Way to keep your cool guys, good stuff!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk vs Skeptiko
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on November 30, 2011, 12:39:48 AM
A special debate between MonsterTalk & Skeptiko is up this week as episode #170 on Skepticality.  (Not really "MonsterTalk" since we don't really talk about monsters - hence the venue.)

http://traffic.libsyn.com/skepticality/Skepticality_170.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skepticality/Skepticality_170.mp3)

Wow! listening now and forgot how much he likes to redefine things as he goes.  Way to keep your cool guys, good stuff!

Ugh, I haven't been so annoyed by an interviewee since that guy on SGU who thought the earth was expanding.
Title: MonsterTalk #045 - Unbottling The Jinn
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 07, 2011, 12:06:52 AM
We return to monsters this week w/ an interview with author Robert Lebling on Djinn, Jinn, Jann, Genies & Ghouls...  No, seriously.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #045 - Unbottling The Jinn
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on December 07, 2011, 12:22:41 AM
We return to monsters this week w/ an interview with author Robert Lebling on Djinn, Jinn, Jann, Genies & Ghouls...  No, seriously.

Sweet!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #045 - Unbottling The Jinn
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on December 07, 2011, 12:25:24 AM
We return to monsters this week w/ an interview with author Robert Lebling on Djinn, Jinn, Jann, Genies & Ghouls...  No, seriously.

Sweet!

Cheese and Crackers, I thought you meant the download was up. :'(
I cannae see a link!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk #045 - Unbottling The Jinn
Post by: Caffiene on December 07, 2011, 04:59:10 AM
Cheese and Crackers, I thought you meant the download was up. :'(
I cannae see a link!

Its up now, for anyone waiting.


Now I just have to get it downloaded... Damn monthly limits. *grumbles*
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on December 07, 2011, 05:07:49 AM
It'l get me though the morning at work, I'll wager.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on December 08, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
You have to listen to Robert Lebling closely. It almost sounds like he believes in these things. Would it be fair to say he's just telling us the stories as told to him?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: craig on December 08, 2011, 11:04:36 AM
You have to listen to Robert Lebling closely. It almost sounds like he believes in these things. Would it be fair to say he's just telling us the stories as told to him?

I think that Blake did a good job of laying that out in the intro.  The book takes a neutral tone and they weren't there to challenge that.  My impression was that Lebling used the language carefully but always took the stories as stories.

I would have liked to have heard a couple of questions about what sort of pressure he felt in living in Saudi Arabia and publishing a book with such a charged subject.  Was he afraid of taking a stance on a paranormal subject that is recognized and outlawed by the government?

p.s.

I have never heard a pun fall as flat as the Exorcist one.  Good for you for just moving on and not trying to explain it.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on December 08, 2011, 12:54:29 PM
"I think that Blake did a good job of laying that out in the intro."

I heard that. But I first wondered if it an upfront explanation why they weren't trying to put the Tskaris smack down on their guest vs "this guy is just the messenger".
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on December 08, 2011, 02:14:46 PM
I got the impression that he does fall on the 'believer' side of the spectrum but not so far over that he wouldn't accept a rational explanation if needed. But it was good to hear the 'true' stories of the djinn from the culture that actually spawned them, rather than the watered down Disney version that we (in the West) normally get to hear.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on December 08, 2011, 05:02:53 PM
I thought the interview was great and that the author was passionate about his subject.
Nothing more than that, in terms of believing in invisible forces etc...

Have put the book on my list of "to buy".
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on December 08, 2011, 07:35:45 PM
Yeah, I got the opposite impression: That he was a very professional anthropologist who made a point not to judge the plausibility of the beliefs, just study and record them, but that if he were to give you his honest opinion he doesnt believe it.

I think some of the particular stories were telling, like the one about his student whose apartment got burned. He said "this is what the student claimed" and then in what sounded to me like a wry voice added something along the lines of "but Im not sure theres much evidence".
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 13, 2011, 02:02:07 PM
The truth is a bit silly.

I forgot to ask him if he believed these things were real.  So not knowing, and considering the academic voice of the interview, I decided to let it be and and put on the disclaimer at the beginning.  However, I suspect that he thinks there are some interesting phenomena being reported which are worth investigating.

Also, after editing and listening to the show again, I think there is a ripe market for an Arabic "Djinn Hunters" show in the vein of "Ghost Hunters."  Not suggesting there SHOULD be one, but that it would be very viable in that market.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: craig on December 13, 2011, 02:39:44 PM
I think that Ali Hussain Sibat would caution you about trying to run a show like that.

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Ali Hussain Sibat is a Lebanese national and former host of the popular call-in show that aired on satellite TV across the Middle East. On the show, he made predictions and gave advice to the audience.
 
In May 2008, Sibat was arrested on charges of "sorcery" in Saudi Arabia, where he traveled to perform the Umrah pilgrimage. Saudi authorities sentenced him to execution by beheading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Hussain_Sibat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Hussain_Sibat)

He hasn't been executed yet but others convicted of "sorcery" have been.

http://www.wdsu.com/r/29985487/detail.html (http://www.wdsu.com/r/29985487/detail.html)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on December 13, 2011, 04:33:36 PM
The truth is a bit silly.

I forgot to ask him if he believed these things were real.  So not knowing, and considering the academic voice of the interview, I decided to let it be and and put on the disclaimer at the beginning.  However, I suspect that he thinks there are some interesting phenomena being reported which are worth investigating.

Also, after editing and listening to the show again, I think there is a ripe market for an Arabic "Djinn Hunters" show in the vein of "Ghost Hunters."  Not suggesting there SHOULD be one, but that it would be very viable in that market.

Off topic: I hear your voice in my head when reading your comments.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 14, 2011, 12:28:43 AM
I think that Ali Hussain Sibat would caution you about trying to run a show like that.


I would caution me against that as well.  I just think it's a marketable idea for the region - not that it would be safe to put it together.  Or ethical.  Or likely to find Djinn.  It's just an entertaining idea in my head - this night-vision segment of something like TAPS only for Djinnis.  (Of course in my mental version they are chased out of desolate ruins by howling spirits as Robert E. Howard would have wanted...)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: craig on December 14, 2011, 09:01:12 AM
I like your world better than the real one.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on December 21, 2011, 06:23:06 AM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/046_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/046_Monstertalk.mp3) MonsterTalk #046 w/ Scott Herriott (The Bigfoot Show) and a very silly interview with The Krampus is live.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on December 21, 2011, 10:22:40 PM
I enjoyed that one. The episodes with interviews about specific sightings and evidence always really appeal to me, and I thought it went really well with the guest, too. Normally I get too fed up or frustrated to finish listening to any interview with a believer, but Scott was sensible and interesting even if I didnt agree with everything he said.

Im interested to listen to an episode or two of The Bigfoot Show, now. (For non iTunes listeners, like me, you can download direct from RSS here (http://www.bigfootproject.org/bfs/bfs_podcast.xml))
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on December 22, 2011, 03:47:32 PM
Another great episode and a very interesting guest.

Regarding the acceptance of photographic evidence, a photo is good enough for science. Meet the Spectacled Flowerpecker (http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2010/01/14/spectacled_flowerpecker_bird_species_discovered/):

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“On June 18, 2009, Richard Webster was making his way along a 250-meter [800-foot] canopy-walkway, built to allow visitors the thrill of seeing the tropical rain forest canopy at eye-level, when he stopped to examine some flowering mistletoe in a tree, some 35 meters [114 feet] above ground,” OBC’s statement said.

“There, amongst several familiar species of flowerpeckers–small, wren-sized birds that specialize in feeding on mistletoe berries–was a bird that he could not recognize.”

From the photographs he made, shown on this page and published in BirdingAsia, Webster was able to document an attractive gray bird with bright white arcs above and below the eye, a white throat extending as a broad white stripe down the center of the belly, and white tufts at the breast sides, OBC noted.

“Back at the Lodge, Webster consulted with Dr David Edwards, a Fellow at Leeds University’s faculty of biological science who has been conducting ornithological studies in the region for three years. They soon realized that this was a species never before recorded from Borneo and–following visits to museum collections in London, New York and Washington, D.C. later that year–nowhere else either.

“Over the following days, Webster, Edwards and Rose Ann Rowlett made further observations and found at least two of the unknown birds feeding on the mistletoe and even heard one bird singing.”

Have a good enough photo, go about it the right way and, yes, science will take you seriously. I'm fairly sure that there are other examples of species being found this way, just not a bigfoot.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on December 29, 2011, 05:30:50 PM
My thoughts is we now have remote cameras set up to record bears
They catch images / video of bears all the time.
Some of these are in the Pacific Northwest. Some of these really should have caught pictures /video of bigfoot
Even if not a smoking gun, would at least be highly suggestive.
Title: MonsterTalk #047 - Something Wiccan This Way Comes
Post by: Caffiene on January 19, 2012, 01:17:15 AM
New Episode: Something Wiccan This Way Comes

In this episode of MonsterTalk, two skeptics interview a witch about how to battle evil with magic. Emily Carlin is a magical instructor at The Grey School—an online magical university and the author of Defense Against the Dark: A Field Guide to Protecting Yourself from Predatory Spirits, Energy Vampires and Malevolent Magic. Is magic the best defense against evil monsters? Or is skepticism? Pull up a chair and sit a spell to find out.

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/047_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/01/18/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on January 19, 2012, 07:47:09 AM
I enjoyed the discussion with Emily, she was a good interviewee. My one complaint is that towards the end I thought Ben was arguing against ghost hunters and trying to include her in that group, which as Blake pointed out, she hadn't commented on. As it turned out, her views on that were surprisingly similar to the hosts with regards to the TV ghost hunters.

Oh and my head did asplode when she mentioned quantum.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: ting-bu-dong on January 19, 2012, 08:00:28 AM
What I enjoyed about this interview and the recent Bigfoot interview is that they were with believers who were not malicious or overtly dogmatic, which is a rare find.

My one complaint is that towards the end I thought Ben was arguing against ghost hunters and trying to include her in that group, which as Blake pointed out, she hadn't commented on. As it turned out, her views on that were surprisingly similar to the hosts with regards to the TV ghost hunters.

That part frustrated me. She kept saying she was skeptical, but she never articulated a way to distinguish imagined phenomena from genuine ones. I got the impression that the criterion is 'it's real if I want it to be'.

Quote
Oh and my head did asplode when she mentioned quantum.

I can understand why it's bad tactics to call an interviewee on something like this because it can shut down the flow of the interview, but some form of counter argument would have been nice, especially when the claim is flat out false.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on January 20, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
Quantum got me too. . . .
Probably should send her that youtube video
Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y5D7q1O1Uk&feature=related#)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: JMA on January 21, 2012, 10:53:44 AM
That video is really cool, but then he went on to write a book with Deepak Chopra, "War of the Worldviews: Science Vs. Spirituality". It's probably good for his bank account (I'm sure Chopra sells a lot). But now he's the guy who wrote a book with Stephen Hawking and another with Deepak Chopra. Like Chopra is a reputable scholar, with whom a scientific should engage into a "debate" of ideas. Nope. Chopra is a woo-woo proponent, and should be treated as such.
Title: MonsterTalk #048 - Monsters In America
Post by: Caffiene on February 08, 2012, 06:42:54 AM
New Episode: Monsters in America (interview with Scott Poole)

This week on MonsterTalk, the hosts talk with the author of Monsters In America (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1602583145/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1602583145), Dr. Scott Poole. His book chronicles the history of monsters from colonial America to modern times—and tries to tackle the issue of meaning in a world where monsters are “meaning machines.” Content Advisory: The content in this episode is rated is PG13. Be sure to read the episode notes to see the winners of the MonsterTalk t-shirt design contest and see the three winning designs.

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/048_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/02/08/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: quirk3k on February 09, 2012, 06:21:23 AM
Yea! another great podcast.I really enjoyed it.

I also did my duty and finally wrote an iTunes review for you guys.
Title: MonsterTalk #049 - Internet Hoaxes: A Mammoth Undertaking
Post by: Caffiene on February 22, 2012, 08:22:37 PM
New Episode - Internet Video Hoaxes: A Mammoth Undertaking

Did you see that popular Internet video that allegedly showed a mammoth crossing a river in Siberia? You probably figured it was a hoax—and we did too—but we decided to get to the bottom of the matter. Join us as we discuss the methods and motives for Internet hoax videos. This episode also includes interviews with documentary film maker Ludovic Petho (http://russianpromenade.com/) and Alan Melikdjanian (aka Captain Disillusion (http://captaindisillusion.com/)). Was there really something fishy about that video? Listen to see if you can bear the truth!

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/049_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/02/22/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Chew on February 22, 2012, 08:25:56 PM
Oy! Blake Smith’s video analysis link doesn't work.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on February 22, 2012, 08:29:49 PM
Im gonna take a guess that its supposed to be [noembed]this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FosctR7gKEQ)[/noembed] from his youtube.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: T.A.P.O.R. on February 22, 2012, 08:33:47 PM
I want more Ken Feder.

Re-listened to both of his interviews this week.
Great stuff!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 04, 2012, 11:15:53 PM
Im gonna take a guess that its supposed to be [noembed]this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FosctR7gKEQ)[/noembed] from his youtube.
Thanks!
Title: MonsterTalk #050 - Hell Hath No Furry
Post by: Caffiene on March 08, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
New Episode - Hell Hath No Furry

Episode 50 of MonsterTalk takes us to a small English village in the 1570s where a morning church service is interrupted by a horrific storm which heralds, perhaps, the appearance of Satan himself in the form of a huge black hound. Join us as we talk with David Waldron (author of Shock! The Black Dog of Bungay (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/095552377X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=095552377X)) as he helps us discover the facts behind this creepy tale—a tale which influences paranormal literature even today.

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/050_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/03/07/)



Im glad this episode isnt about the furries I first thought of when I saw the episode title...
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on March 09, 2012, 02:45:21 PM
I tweeted the link to the local Norfolk paper; you never know, you might get some more listeners that way.

@EveningNews is really worth following anyway. Really entertaining take on the local news (and Norfolk is a really rural area. UK doctors have a code 'NFN: Normal for Norfolk' due to the high level of inbreeding there).

Update: @EveningNews re-tweeted my tweet, so here's hoping. Their next tweet read:

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Bungay's greatest claim to fame is longhand for depression. I am saying nothing.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 10, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
I tweeted the link to the local Norfolk paper; you never know, you might get some more listeners that way.

@EveningNews is really worth following anyway. Really entertaining take on the local news (and Norfolk is a really rural area. UK doctors have a code 'NFN: Normal for Norfolk' due to the high level of inbreeding there).

Update: @EveningNews re-tweeted my tweet, so here's hoping. Their next tweet read:

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Bungay's greatest claim to fame is longhand for depression. I am saying nothing.

Hilarious.  :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Johnny Slick on March 10, 2012, 04:31:48 PM
I should point out here that Skeptics With a K pimped out this podcast all over the place in this week's episode (which is pretty funny in its own right). Cross-pollination FTW!
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on March 10, 2012, 06:09:27 PM
Oh, I forgot to say I got a pleasant surprise from this episode - local flavour!

The guest is from about 1 hour away from me, and his pig/bear story he says happened right around where I grew up. Im actually quite surprised... Ive never seen and never even really heard of wild pigs around here. Although I suppose it mightnt have been wild, since theres a few weird farms around.

He was a really good guest, too. I noticed the panel seemed a bit quieter than normal, like they were sort of hypnotised by him and just letting him ramble on with his stories.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 11, 2012, 12:15:32 AM


He was a really good guest, too. I noticed the panel seemed a bit quieter than normal, like they were sort of hypnotised by him and just letting him ramble on with his stories.

Apparently so - I didn't notice it at the time.  We just had a good time - but then when I went to edit I was taken aback by how much we let him talk.  But one thing to keep in mind is that when we record a phone call, the way Skype works if we have questions and the phone person is talking they can't bloody well hear us!  So where we'd normally interject something and I'd edit out any over-talking, we couldn't do that here.  But there wasn't much of it regardless.
Title: MonsterTalk #051 - The Jacobs Creature
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 28, 2012, 01:02:23 PM
Direct Link to the Episode:
http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/051_Monstertalk.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/051_Monstertalk.mp3)


Go read the show notes on this one - just in case we have to take down the photos.
http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/03/28/  (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/03/28/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Johnny Slick on March 28, 2012, 05:04:23 PM
Why would you guys need to take down the photos? ??? Isn't there some sort of fair use statute which allows you to use snippets of someone else's work for critical/educational purposes?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Chew on March 28, 2012, 07:49:26 PM
He explains it in the podcast.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on March 28, 2012, 09:16:47 PM
Question: The photos in the show notes seem to be cropped and sized differently in different photos. Did you do that for the analysis, or is that how they were originally shown?

Anyway... I disagree about the analysis of the weirdly posed photo (that you refer to as the 3rd photo on the podcast, but is the 5th photo in the notes)... It doesnt look like its facing the camera to me. The "eyes" seem more like paradolia to me. (Noting of course that this is all speculation and paradolia anyway, so who really knows...)


But either way... I found this episode pretty cool. And the photos are really interesting. The 20:32:05 photo in particular I can see how its probably a bear, but its really cool to see such an unusual body shape.

Looking forward to homunculi.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Johnny Slick on March 28, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
He explains it in the podcast.
Which I know now, having listened to it. I am truly gifted with the psychic condition.
Title: MonsterTalk #052 - ThylaCinema and Nocturnal Submissions
Post by: Caffiene on April 05, 2012, 07:47:03 PM
New Episode - ThylaCinema and Nocturnal Submission

Join the hosts of MonsterTalk for an interview with Daniel Nettheim, director of a new film about a man hunting for thylacines. The Hunter (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=NPWZsaxViDE&offerid=146261&type=3&subid=0&tmpid=1826&RD_PARM1=http%253A%252F%252Fitunes.apple.com%252Fus%252Fmovie%252Fthe-hunter%252Fid501863374%253Fuo%253D4%2526partnerId%253D30) stars Willem Dafoe as the eponymous character tasked with seeking out the last living thylacine in the wild. Also, Scott Sigler calls in to discuss his newest monster book, Nocturnal (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307406342/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0307406342).

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/052_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/04/04/)



Scott Sigler again... dude is everywhere. Good thing I like his work :)
More local(ish) content for me on the Thylacines, as well. Sweet.
Title: MonsterTalk #053 - Onan the Jar Burying
Post by: Caffiene on April 25, 2012, 09:14:01 PM
New Episode - Onan the Jar Burying

In modern science the homunculus refers to various models of the human mind, but in medieval times it was something quite different. Join us for a fascinating interview with professor William R. Newman, of Indiana University’s Department of History and Philosophy of Science. He is the author of seven books, including Promethean Ambitions: Alchemy and the Quest to Perfect Nature (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226575241/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=skepticcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0226575241)—a book which provides much insight into the seedy back-story of this strange creature.

This episode contains adult material and may be unsuitable for junior skeptics.

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/053_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/04/25/)
Title: MonsterTalk #054 - Qu'est Que C'est?
Post by: Caffiene on May 03, 2012, 01:51:24 AM
Holy crap, two episodes within a week... I think this is one of the signs of the end times.


New Episode - Qu'est Que C'est?

Remorseless killers are the stuff of countless films. Sadly, the real world has even more of them. Jack the Ripper, Ted Bundy, H. H. Holmes, John Wayne Gacy—these remorseless psychopaths filled graveyards with corpses and sleeping minds with nightmares. But these aren’t monsters—they’re real people who have a brain that developed differently than most peoples. Author Jon Ronson joins us on this episode of MonsterTalk to discuss the condition of psychopathy—and to share with us his journey into the world of these dangerous people.

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/054_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/05/02/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DK on May 04, 2012, 07:33:31 AM
I've recently read The Psychopath Test and highly recommend it to everyone. It's a quick read, I got through it in a day. Though to be fair, that was a day of me sat in an airport and plane, so had lots of free time.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Caffiene on May 04, 2012, 08:23:02 AM
It's a quick read, I got through it in a day.

Yeah, Jon Ronson's books I tend to find are like that... I picked up Them to flip through at a bookstore once and ended up reading 2/3 of it before left the store :P Just something about his style that makes everything feel light and easy to read. Same with the podcast, actually... turning talking about psychopaths into sounding like a cheerful chat, at least to my ears.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on May 25, 2012, 10:14:51 AM
Ronson is always a delight to listen to.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on May 25, 2012, 11:33:21 PM
And I agree. See Badlands. If only for 1) the sound track 2) what movies were like before CGI and everyone had a cell phone.

Carl Orff - Gassenhauer [1973 "Badlands" Version] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEgzGnzojc#)

Title: MonsterTalk #56 - Assault & Giant Battery
Post by: Caffiene on August 08, 2012, 05:54:14 AM
New Episode - Assault & Giant Battery

For decades, legends of a giant sexually-assaulting bat-creature have trickled out of Zanzibar. In this episode of MonsterTalk we interview Ben Radford about his investigation of the creature and the role that the monster called Popabawa has played in culture and politics in the United States.

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/056_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/08/08/)



Hooray. Been a while since the last one... I guess this Ben Radford bloke is a hard guy to line up an interview with.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: quirk3k on August 11, 2012, 07:54:09 AM
Thanks guys, it was a lot of fun to listen too.

In thinking about monsters as a stand in for cultural fears, I wonder what are the cultural fears that bring about the Popabawa? I would assume that fear of damnation and loss of group status, but I really don't know their culture.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Johnny Slick on August 11, 2012, 07:53:21 PM
Loved the podcast but I do think you underplayed the covering for other things angle. Like, I really think the succubus myth was many times invoked to paper over  sexual encounter with a prostitute or perhaps a traveller (and the to-women equivalent still had to invoke rape, similar to this monster in fact). The fact that Muslims are so stridently homophobic doesn't make the idea that someone might invoke a folktale to paper over a homosexual encounter less likely, if yo. Know what I mean.
Title: MonsterTalk #57 - The Blair Fish Project
Post by: Caffiene on August 22, 2012, 06:53:35 AM
Holy crap, another one already! I do remember them saying they wanted to get a mermaids one out in time after the Animal Planet episode made a lot of news...


New Episode - The Blair Fish Project

FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, people who made their living by working the sea have reported creatures that appeared to be half-human and half-fish. Some of these stories are legends and fairy tales, but more recent sightings are reported as real animals. Confounding things even more are mummified mermaids brought to Europe from sailors coming back from Asia. A recent Animal Planet “documentary” claimed that mermaids are real and the US government is hiding the truth. This week on MonsterTalk, we interview museum curator (and mermaid-model expert) Paolo Viscardi.

Direct Link (http://traffic.libsyn.com/skeptic/057_Monstertalk.mp3)
Show Notes (http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/12/08/22/)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: quirk3k on August 23, 2012, 07:53:02 PM
Great Episode. It felt like a giant puntastic rant!!
Title: MonsterTalk - Satanic Panic / Dungeons and Dragons
Post by: Desert Fox on March 06, 2015, 02:46:51 PM
I thought I would resurrect this thread

The latest episode is really good getting into Satanic Panic and Dungeons and Dragons
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: amysrevenge on March 06, 2015, 02:56:49 PM
A topic I'm pretty well versed in myself - checking it out.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on March 06, 2015, 03:05:20 PM
A topic I'm pretty well versed in myself - checking it out.

I had my stepfather destroy all my books as a teenager because of one of those satanic panic "documentaries"
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: amysrevenge on March 06, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
I got in to the hobby late enough (1990) that I missed experiencing the brunt of it myself, but it was a pet topic later on for me.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on March 06, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
I got in to the hobby late enough (1990) that I missed experiencing the brunt of it myself, but it was a pet topic later on for me.

I got into the game because of the movie "Mazes and Monsters" because it made the game sound good  >:D
Might have been 1982 / 83
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: amysrevenge on March 06, 2015, 03:24:02 PM
Were I a big city kid rather than a country bumpkin, I'd have gotten into it around then as well.  I likely wasn't within 200 miles of a D&D book until 1987 at least.  :P
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on March 06, 2015, 03:34:43 PM
Were I a big city kid rather than a country bumpkin, I'd have gotten into it around then as well.  I likely wasn't within 200 miles of a D&D book until 1987 at least.  :P

I lived in a little town called Jefferson, New Hampshire. There was a bookstore in Littleton, NH which had the books.
You might have been surprised if you looked.  >:D
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: amysrevenge on March 06, 2015, 03:51:11 PM
Guaranteed zero for sale pre-1990 inside my roughly 50km inner circle (no bookstores, mostly just canola fields - no towns with over 2000 people).

Possibly a very small handful of places to buy D&D material pre-1990 in my roughly 400km outer circle (a handful of bookstores, some of which could have been selling D&D material - one town of [at the time] roughly 30k people, nothing else over 10k).  In 1990 I located exactly one place with D&D books - might have been more, and there definitely were plenty more even by 1993.

Definitely bookstores selling D&D material just at that 400km mark, even back to the 70s.

I'll concede that my 200 miles was exaggerating, but not by a lot.

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j21/amysrevenge/radius_zpsvptithwf.jpg)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: amysrevenge on March 06, 2015, 03:59:23 PM
OK, got to the end.  A bit shallow for me, but that's probably because of how deep in I have dived into the topic myself.  Would probably enjoy the actual book by the guest more than this general overview of the book.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on March 06, 2015, 04:03:22 PM
I understand what you mean about it not being in depth enough
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on March 22, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
The book is VERY detailed.  It is extremely well researched and has a plethora of footnotes and a rich bibliography.  I always figure our role is to try get the most accessible narrative overview from material that goes that deep because to really dig in would make it a 2 or 3 hour lecture series and what I was really trying to accomplish was an overview of this one aspect of the Satanic Panic.  That is a broad topic in itself, but I knew that this particular sub-topic was monster rich and would not (hopefully) gain me the usual barrage of angry emails suggesting I leave religion out of the show.   At any rate, glad you folks gave it a listen. :)
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on March 22, 2015, 02:57:33 PM
The book is VERY detailed.  It is extremely well researched and has a plethora of footnotes and a rich bibliography.  I always figure our role is to try get the most accessible narrative overview from material that goes that deep because to really dig in would make it a 2 or 3 hour lecture series and what I was really trying to accomplish was an overview of this one aspect of the Satanic Panic.  That is a broad topic in itself, but I knew that this particular sub-topic was monster rich and would not (hopefully) gain me the usual barrage of angry emails suggesting I leave religion out of the show.   At any rate, glad you folks gave it a listen. :)

What is the name of the book?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 23, 2015, 03:57:31 PM
Just never get tired of stories about the 80s satan panics. Amazing how stupid people were. And are.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on March 23, 2015, 09:54:45 PM
Just never get tired of stories about the 80s satan panics. Amazing how stupid people were. And are.

Even today, an Italian prosecutor tried to argue that a US college student murdered her roommate in some type of Satanic ritual.
There was also a case where a couple who played dungeons and dragons had their daughter attacked by a dog and the prosecutor tried to use the doctors having cleaned up the wound as evidence of some kind of satanic ritual.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on March 24, 2015, 09:13:09 AM
Just never get tired of stories about the 80s satan panics. Amazing how stupid people were. And are.

Even today, an Italian prosecutor tried to argue that a US college student murdered her roommate in some type of Satanic ritual.
There was also a case where a couple who played dungeons and dragons had their daughter attacked by a dog and the prosecutor tried to use the doctors having cleaned up the wound as evidence of some kind of satanic ritual.

Yeah, amazing in such a high profile case the American media isn't bitch slapping this prosecutor theory six ways to Sunday.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on April 18, 2015, 02:50:18 PM
Latest one has an interview with John Ronson . . . . . Interesting that David Icke might have been right about something in that there seem to have been widespread pedophilia in British government and entertainment. 
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Ah.hell on April 18, 2015, 02:51:53 PM
Latest one has an interview with John Ronson . . . . . Interesting that David Icke might have been right about something in taht there seem to have been widespread pedophilia in British government and entertainment. 
He was a sports announcer, maybe he new from personal knowledge?
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on April 18, 2015, 02:56:46 PM
Latest one has an interview with John Ronson . . . . . Interesting that David Icke might have been right about something in that there seem to have been widespread pedophilia in British government and entertainment. 
He was a sports announcer, maybe he new from personal knowledge?

Jon Ronson suggests that it might also be due to Icke dealing with groups who are on the fringes but he does not know how Icke came up with it. I don't know if he knew it or if it was a broken clock sort of situation.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 20, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Good summary of the UK pedo ring:

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-pedophile-allegations-20141223-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-pedophile-allegations-20141223-story.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier)

These weird British celebs being busted for abusing children might be a "tip of the iceberg" thing.

Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: DoctorAtlantis on April 21, 2015, 10:44:28 AM
What is the name of the book?

Dangerous Games: What the Moral Panic over Role-Playing Games Says about Play, Religion, and Imagined Worlds
http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Games-Role-Playing-Religion-Imagined/dp/0520284925 (http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Games-Role-Playing-Religion-Imagined/dp/0520284925)

By Joe Laycock.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on April 21, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
Expensive book in paper format unfortunately. . . . .Bet impossible to get in the library.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 21, 2015, 01:28:12 PM
Expensive book in paper format unfortunately. . . . .Bet impossible to get in the library.

Come on. Get with the times. You can get the Kindle version for like nearly almost as expensive.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: EvilNick on May 26, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
Just noticed this thread.  One of the original links is broken--a fancy 404.  Is there a convenient list of the episodes that can be streamed online?  Figured I'd ask while I attempt to find something like it myself.  Google can't find everything.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on June 10, 2016, 02:06:21 PM
I thought the last Monster Talk on Boggy Creek to be extremely interesting. . . . .One still has to wonder why in 2014 they did not think to take pictures with their cell phones however.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on June 13, 2016, 08:54:35 AM
I thought the last Monster Talk on Boggy Creek to be extremely interesting. . . . .One still has to wonder why in 2014 they did not think to take pictures with their cell phones however.

I agree. The guest I gathered did believe in bigfoot. Blake and Karen however do a great job of showing how skeptics and believers can have polite, productive dialogs. Be Reasonable is another such podcast.

Oh, and if you like Kenny Feder you need to catch a podcast he cohosts:

http://www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/archyfantasies/

I like it has a Clean tag but Kenny swears a bit. I guess swearing only a bit is "clean" for him. Cohost Sarah Head is great too.



Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on June 13, 2016, 09:07:16 AM
I should add the episode about the Roswell excavation is interesting. And the episode about giants is fascinating. There's a lot of repetition but I think that is by design. People may only download a podcast or two about something they are interested in. "I know the Kensington rune stones are genuine!" And Ken and Sarah need to remind everyone in each podcast basically archeology isn't about uncovering treaures or one off relics that will re-write history. It's about finding context. If there's a Hebrew tablet maker in ancient Ohio, then there's a village or town or settlement that supports a tablet maker. It buries tablet makers in the style of Hebrews. It makes pottery like Hebrews. It arranges its settlement like ancient Hebrews. If you find some one off "treasure" and you don't find evidence of the culture that supports it, your find is exactly worthless.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on March 29, 2019, 07:50:39 PM
Instead of starting a new thread I thought I would comment on this one

Using the Nazis and saying that in effect that was normal or the right thing does not work for me.
There were plenty of Germans who were against the Holocaust. For example Albert Goering, the brother of Hermann Goering, worked to save as many jews as they could. There were also a number of generals who did the same thing. On the other side, it does not look like Hermann Goering had hatred for the Jews but instead persecuting them was just a tool.

Edit: One item I would also like to add is that I think there must have been something like post traumatic stress disorder historically. The Einsatzgruppenwere taught that the Jews were subhuman or other. Still, many soldiers had trouble dealing with just killing captives. They could not just keep doing it. That is why the SS found "cleaner" ways to kill Jews.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Rai on April 01, 2019, 06:49:31 AM
I found this episode somewhat problematic. I would have preferred for them to interview an anthropologist or historian (or both) than a communication/journalism expert. There were a few statements that are just not appropriate like the purpose of cave art, the reasons for allying with Stalin, ancient PTSD, the "big man" idea that is presented as a generic "tribal" feature when it only applies to parts of the Pacific Islands, and maybe a few more. I wasn't all that convinced about him in general.
Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: mindme on April 01, 2019, 08:04:17 AM
Edit: One item I would also like to add is that I think there must have been something like post traumatic stress disorder historically. The Einsatzgruppenwere taught that the Jews were subhuman or other. Still, many soldiers had trouble dealing with just killing captives. They could not just keep doing it. That is why the SS found "cleaner" ways to kill Jews.

My reading of history was, indeed, shooting people in lime-filled pits took a toll. Didn't one of the head Nazis get a live demonstration and after he got some brain splatter on him decide there had to be a more antiseptic method of killing? Killing eastern european Jews, however, was easier than killing Western European Jews. When it came to get Nazis to kill German Jews, people much harder to distinguish as the other, they had to find the truly psychotic killers in their ranks.


Title: Re: MonsterTalk - Skeptical Cryptozoology Podcast
Post by: Desert Fox on April 01, 2019, 10:56:24 PM
Edit: One item I would also like to add is that I think there must have been something like post traumatic stress disorder historically. The Einsatzgruppenwere taught that the Jews were subhuman or other. Still, many soldiers had trouble dealing with just killing captives. They could not just keep doing it. That is why the SS found "cleaner" ways to kill Jews.

My reading of history was, indeed, shooting people in lime-filled pits took a toll. Didn't one of the head Nazis get a live demonstration and after he got  some brain splatter on him decide there had to be a more antiseptic method of killing?  Killing eastern european Jews, however, was easier than killing Western European Jews. When it came to get Nazis to kill German Jews, people much harder to distinguish as the other, they had to find the truly psychotic killers in their ranks.

Yes, Himmler