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Title: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on November 23, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
Just caught the first episode.  In Canada it is streaming on space.ca.  In the US it is streaming all over the place, on Syfy, at Goodreads, on Amazon, and in numerous other places.

I'm a huge fan of the novels, and have been excited for the show for months.  The first episode was very enjoyable to me - but I'm famously easy to please.  Anyone else check it out yet?

Episode 2 is slated for Dec 15.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Tassie Dave on November 24, 2015, 10:03:24 AM
It wasn't available to legally watch in Australia, but that has never stopped me  ;)

I enjoyed it. It started off a bit all over the place, which is understandable, there are a lot of characters and storylines to introduce.
I liked Leviathan Wakes, but not enough to read the rest of the series.

The episode ended on a high and I am looking forward to seeing the rest of the series.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on November 24, 2015, 12:26:35 PM
Haven't seen enough of Holden yet to really get a feel for him (initial reaction is he seems younger than I'd imagined), but Thomas Jane has so completely nailed Miller already - you can see so many layers to him already in just the one episode.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on November 25, 2015, 05:50:58 PM
FYI, there is also an Expanse podcast, 7 episodes in (some character/cast discussion before the show came out, and one since).  Give it a search on your podcast provider of choice.  It's not bad.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: teethering on November 25, 2015, 05:59:01 PM
Woah, this is relevant to my interests!

PS, haven't seen any episodes yet, but the actor is 100% NOT the Holden I expected.  In my head I pictured basically Tom Hanks.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on November 25, 2015, 06:03:48 PM
I don't know why, but I always had a early-90s William Hurt in my brain for Holden.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: teethering on November 25, 2015, 06:10:03 PM
I don't know why, but I always had a early-90s William Hurt in my brain for Holden.

That works too.  I also heard people picturing him as Ron Livingston or Nathan Fillion, either of whom would fit well for me as well.  But no the guy they cast.  You need that capacity for everyman cluelessness coupled with surprising sharpness and heroism when called upon.

I hope he can pull it off..
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on November 25, 2015, 06:13:41 PM
The big thing for me will be uncertainty followed up with decisiveness - pulling both of those off.

(ie. basically just rewording what you said)
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: teethering on November 26, 2015, 12:49:17 AM
Close to finishing the first episode, this is a badly cast show.  It's still a fun story, but it's less fun because the characters aren't coming through with the actors they picked.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on November 26, 2015, 10:35:26 AM
I'm still OK with it - Jane as Miller is a home run.  The others haven't had a chance yet to really do anything.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: teethering on November 26, 2015, 12:34:07 PM
Even Miller is way too pretty, not to mention Amos.  It feels like the casting was based on how good looking the actors are, rather than how much character they bring.  It's supposed to be a rag-tag group of nobodies and the crew looks like a bunch of models.  Just not buying it.

I'll still watch because the story is fun, but I am disappoint.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: daniel1948 on November 27, 2015, 09:11:26 AM
Just caught the first episode.  In Canada it is streaming on space.ca.  In the US it is streaming all over the place, on Syfy, at Goodreads, on Amazon, and in numerous other places.

I'm a huge fan of the novels, and have been excited for the show for months.  The first episode was very enjoyable to me - but I'm famously easy to please.  Anyone else check it out yet?

Episode 2 is slated for Dec 15.

I'd never heard of it, so I went to Amazon. It's not on Prime, but it's free to buy the first episode. So I did. I'll watch it soon. I suppose they're giving away the first episode as a teaser.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: PANTS! on November 27, 2015, 12:13:18 PM
Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: daniel1948 on November 28, 2015, 04:40:00 PM
Last night I watched the first episode of The Expanse. It's not my cup of tea. But I don't care for Star Trek or Star Wars or their ilk either. I love Firefly and Serenity. And I love both the book and the BBC radio serial (that came first) of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I didn't much care for the movie or tv versions. The infinite improbability drive seems to me a lot more probable, and certainly more fun, than warp drive. There's no imagination at all in the latter.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on December 16, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
So?  My wife liked Ep1 enough that I'm not allowed to watch any more without her.  Looking forward to the next ones...
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: teethering on December 18, 2015, 04:38:45 PM
The books are actually a lot more like Firefly than ST or SW.

The problem I have with the show is getting worse with each episode, especially the lady they have playing the kick-ass Indian Earth government lady.  I guess part of the problem is that there's only so much screen time to get those nuances across, but in the show she feels a lot like a cold, evil politician, rather than a plump, motherly Indian lady with a steel core who gives zero shits.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on February 04, 2016, 02:40:57 AM
Just watched the finale.  Haven't read the books (though I'm just now starting the first one) either.  I am very impressed with this show!  Very good stuff and I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for season 2.  I think more than anything though, I really have enjoyed getting to know the universe better as it's incredibly fascinating.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on February 13, 2016, 02:56:06 AM
OK, so I'm about halfway through Leviathan Wakes and just about to get to where the show concludes (more or less considering the order of events is different), and while I still am a big fan of the show it's pretty hard to not see where some of the criticisms in this thread are coming from.  Since I watched the show first, I can say that I feel the show on its own merits is really good and engaging, but it seems like some of the changes they made were in the interest of making things more dynamic between characters, and while they accomplished that I think they lost some of the wonderful flavor of the book.

More than anything, I have reacted pretty strongly to the differences between book Rocinante and show Rocinante.  In the book, Holden is a good leader who has the love and respect of his crew despite still making it up as he goes along.  In the show, I don't really see him as much of a leader at all and view the crew more as a group of people that don't quite get along or see eye-to-eye.  I mean, Alex is more or less the same, but Holden has a completely different dynamic with Naomi and Amos on the show and while it's certainly more dramatic I guess, I am left liking the book Rocinante crew way better.

Also, something that stood out to me is that the show doesn't seem to be depicting a war between the Belt and Mars at all.  Tensions, sure, but no war that I was aware of.  In the show, it feels much more like the main characters are trying to avert a war while in the book if feels like they are trying to navigate it and maybe stop it.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: brilligtove on February 13, 2016, 11:05:36 AM
OK, so I'm about halfway through Leviathan Wakes and just about to get to where the show concludes (more or less considering the order of events is different), and while I still am a big fan of the show it's pretty hard to not see where some of the criticisms in this thread are coming from.  Since I watched the show first, I can say that I feel the show on its own merits is really good and engaging, but it seems like some of the changes they made were in the interest of making things more dynamic between characters, and while they accomplished that I think they lost some of the wonderful flavor of the book.

More than anything, I have reacted pretty strongly to the differences between book Rocinante and show Rocinante.  In the book, Holden is a good leader who has the love and respect of his crew despite still making it up as he goes along.  In the show, I don't really see him as much of a leader at all and view the crew more as a group of people that don't quite get along or see eye-to-eye.  I mean, Alex is more or less the same, but Holden has a completely different dynamic with Naomi and Amos on the show and while it's certainly more dramatic I guess, I am left liking the book Rocinante crew way better.

Also, something that stood out to me is that the show doesn't seem to be depicting a war between the Belt and Mars at all.  Tensions, sure, but no war that I was aware of.  In the show, it feels much more like the main characters are trying to avert a war while in the book if feels like they are trying to navigate it and maybe stop it.

I'm almost done Leviathan Wakes on Audible. (I was listening in time with the SyFy episodes, but then the order of events divereged too much.)

I think Holden is more heroic in the books, but only because they rewound his personal history a few years to start him at a more vulnerable and inexperienced time of his life. I'm glad they dropped the love interest plot line. Reading that after watching the show, it felt discordant and out of character.

I didn't mind the way they put more tensions among the characters. We see very little outside of the Roci's crew's view. The show can't really do the kind of narrative teleportation and exposition that the book does (at least, it would be a lot harder to relate to, IMO), so the tensions and outright warfare that we hear in the narrative is represented by the characters in the show.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: MikeHz on February 14, 2016, 05:54:59 PM
I read the first two books prior to the show, and think the producers do a fair job. Adaptations ought to be judged separately from the source. The show is probably the best and most ambitious thing SyFy has done.

However, my wife, who has not read the novels, was unable to follow the story and grew bored by it. (Probably because she was too busy playing on her iPad rather than paying attention.)
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Ambious on February 14, 2016, 08:33:54 PM
Binged it in three days and absolutely loved it.
Didn't read the books, don't intend to.
The gravity (or lack thereof) was mostly handled well (better than can be expected, at least), the science of the fiction was mostly reasonable, and most of the cast is pretty good.
Only thing that bothered me was that the last episode didn't really conclude anything - it didn't feel like a season finale at all.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Harry Black on February 14, 2016, 08:44:00 PM
I got 5 episodes in and nothing was really clicking for me. Thomas Jane was cool. The other story was boring, the earth politicians were outright annoying.
That said, I find all political intrigue outside the Veep to be utterly insufferable so maybe Im not the audience.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on February 14, 2016, 08:55:00 PM
Yeah, I was definitely confused after watching the first season too, but after getting 3/4s of the way through the first book, I believe we're supposed to be confused at that point.  I'm not sure if us being unaware that our confusion was intentional was a good thing or not.  Even after getting through this book though, I'm still confused about the initial events that kick everything off.  What was the Scopuli's mission?  What was the stealth ship's that destroyed her?
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on February 19, 2016, 10:48:53 PM
OK.  Finally finished Leviathan Wakes and my opinion's have changed a bit.  I think the show is definitely doing a good thing with the alterations they've made.  First off, the addition of a third POV character makes the whole thing way more interesting as I found having only Holden and Miller's POV in the books limited how deeply the narrative was explored.  It's like having GRRM write his books with only Tyrion and Dany's POV.  Still interesting, the story is still good and engaging, but the treatment feels very shallow and narrow.

Second off, I've decided that I do like the more dynamic nature of the Rocinante crew.  Yes, it makes Holden's character much less of an imposing figure, but it also leaves him room to grow into such a character and to let us see him earn the respect of his crew.

Third, I still dislike that they made Holden sneakily log the Scolpuli's distress call.  Since it was a trap laid by the other ship, it makes much less sense if the standard reaction to such a distress call is to ignore it for fear of lost money and of it being a pirate trap.  It makes much more sense that the Canterbury was forced to respond rather than the bad guys creating a sloppy plan and getting lucky.

All in all, I like both the book and the show, but I found that once I became used to the universe the author had built and most of the major mysteries had been answered, the book became much less engaging to me.  Still fun, still interesting, but much more straightforward and less dynamic.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: brilligtove on February 19, 2016, 11:03:58 PM
OK.  Finally finished Leviathan Wakes and my opinion's have changed a bit.

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Third, I still dislike that they made Holden sneakily log the Scolpuli's distress call.  Since it was a trap laid by the other ship, it makes much less sense if the standard reaction to such a distress call is to ignore it for fear of lost money and of it being a pirate trap.  It makes much more sense that the Canterbury was forced to respond rather than the bad guys creating a sloppy plan and getting lucky.

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I thought the show hit the right beats to make it clear that ignoring a distress call in the "bad part of town" is not uncommon. In later episodes the "pirates" even make a comment to the effect of "Let's hope they don't ignore it so we can get this party started." It seemed to me that they were not expecting to snare the first ship that passed - just that they would snare someone eventually. They were always playing a longer game.

Holden's reaction also struck me as genuine and appropriate. He's portrayed as a relatively young and somewhat innocent and somewhat idealistic man, with a ton of natural charisma and leadership capacity. He's somewhat jaded, perhaps now thinking of people as 'mostly not evil' where he once thought of them as 'mostly good' so responding to the distress call is based in a crisis of conscience. This leads him to a crisis of confidence that shakes him for most of the season - up to the last few episodes.

It seemed like a very appropriate start to his journey as a reluctant hero.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on February 20, 2016, 12:41:12 AM
No, it felt fine watching the show and fit just fine with the different version of Holden that they are portraying, but since:

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That brings up one other thing I liked better about the book than the show; that the Belter mindset of "do what you will, but fuck with my air, water, or food and even the most pious clergy will toss you out an airlock" didn't come through.  They even had Miller accepting bribes from a super to allow him to not change the air filters.  Him accepting a bribe at all, also struck me wrong when compared to the book Miller.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: brilligtove on February 20, 2016, 07:38:21 PM
No, it felt fine watching the show and fit just fine with the different version of Holden that they are portraying, but since:

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That brings up one other thing I liked better about the book than the show; that the Belter mindset of "do what you will, but fuck with my air, water, or food and even the most pious clergy will toss you out an airlock" didn't come through.  They even had Miller accepting bribes from a super to allow him to not change the air filters.  Him accepting a bribe at all, also struck me wrong when compared to the book Miller.

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Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on February 20, 2016, 10:27:04 PM
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Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: brilligtove on February 21, 2016, 08:28:22 AM
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That makes sense.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: teethering on February 23, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
I got 5 episodes in and nothing was really clicking for me. Thomas Jane was cool. The other story was boring, the earth politicians were outright annoying.
That said, I find all political intrigue outside the Veep to be utterly insufferable so maybe Im not the audience.

I think the political stuff is way more compelling in the books.  Possibly because I think the actress they picked to play Avasarala is 100% wrong for the role.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: amysrevenge on February 23, 2016, 05:53:46 PM
I got 5 episodes in and nothing was really clicking for me. Thomas Jane was cool. The other story was boring, the earth politicians were outright annoying.
That said, I find all political intrigue outside the Veep to be utterly insufferable so maybe Im not the audience.

I think the political stuff is way more compelling in the books.  Possibly because I think the actress they picked to play Avasarala is 100% wrong for the role.

Maybe it's shallow and should be able to be written around, but the character REALLY suffers from cable TV foul language constraints.  She shines when every third word is fuck.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: teethering on February 23, 2016, 07:04:47 PM
I got 5 episodes in and nothing was really clicking for me. Thomas Jane was cool. The other story was boring, the earth politicians were outright annoying.
That said, I find all political intrigue outside the Veep to be utterly insufferable so maybe Im not the audience.

I think the political stuff is way more compelling in the books.  Possibly because I think the actress they picked to play Avasarala is 100% wrong for the role.

Maybe it's shallow and should be able to be written around, but the character REALLY suffers from cable TV foul language constraints.  She shines when every third word is fuck.

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that touch in the book!  Oh man... The foul-mouthed, no-nonsense, motherly Indian lady.

I don't think it's shallow at all, I think those small touches are what adds depth to a character, rather than the character we have in the show which is a pretty boring ruthless politician lady.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Tatyana on April 20, 2016, 02:28:31 AM
I forgot about the swearing as well,  it has been two years since I read the book.

We just started watching 'The Expanse' and I am loving it, I love the visuals, the intrigue. Even though they changed the appearance of Miller's character, I don't mind him.

Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on October 11, 2016, 07:52:07 PM
http://deadline.com/2016/10/space-drama-the-expanse-streaming-netflix-1201834745/
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Ah.hell on January 31, 2017, 12:17:21 PM
I was about to say that my one problem with casting is that Avasaral looks way too young.  So I looked the actress up on Wiki, she does not look her age. 

It would've been amazing if they could CGI some crazy tall, big headed belters but that's asking too much.

I've only seen the first ep but so far I like it.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Ah.hell on February 02, 2017, 02:43:14 PM
I've seen a few more now.  I guess they do have a few CGI tall belters or just a few tall skinny actors.

I've only seen a little bit of Fred Johnson but, I always pictured him has taller, skinnier, and older. 

I can get used to the main cast though. 

Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Muriel on February 02, 2017, 04:48:15 PM
They covered a whole lot more in the season premiere than I expected! Bodes well for the future :)
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: arthwollipot on February 03, 2017, 03:13:55 AM
Damn, I'm going to have to put this thread on ignore for a while. According to Gawker, Aussie Netflix isn't going to get any episodes of season 2 until the entire season has been broadcast in the US.

Fuck international distribution.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Tassie Dave on February 03, 2017, 04:39:54 AM
Damn, I'm going to have to put this thread on ignore for a while. According to Gawker, Aussie Netflix isn't going to get any episodes of season 2 until the entire season has been broadcast in the US.

Fuck international distribution.

My policy is, if I'm paying for a channel that broadcasts a show I like and they delay it by more than 2 days, then I'll find an alternate way to watch it.
They still get their money and I get to watch it spoiler free and can discuss it on my favourite forums in a timely manner.

It is the only way to get them to treat us fairly. It worked with Game of Thrones (Shown at the same time as the US) and The Walking Dead (Only 1 hour delayed) and many other shows are now same day broadcasts.

Showing it after the season is ended is unacceptable. Pre-internet that was the norm in Australia, due to different seasonal TV schedules and getting the shows physically transported here, but not now.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: mindme on February 03, 2017, 12:30:35 PM
This series is a very worthy successor to Babylon 5 with a bit of Firefly tossed in.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on February 03, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
This series is a very worthy successor to Babylon 5 with a bit of Firefly tossed in.

I love the hard sci-fi details.  How they handled the ship-to-ship combat?  My, oh my! 

Season's off to a great start
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: mindme on February 06, 2017, 09:00:17 AM
Started watching ep 1. Then I realized I forgot a crap ton of what happened last season. Need to read up. I'm finding this about a lot of series. There's so much you forget and you spend half the first ep going "okay who is this guy again?"

Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Ah.hell on February 06, 2017, 10:04:30 AM
I started re-listening to the first book.  The devices used to get Miller and the Rocinante in the same place at the same time in the book make more sense than the TV show, I wonder why they made the changes?  With the exception of Thomas Jane, the whole cast is 10 to 20 years younger than they should be. 

Still dig'n the show.

edit to change listening to re-listening.


Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: mindme on February 07, 2017, 08:33:05 AM
Filmed in Toronto, this show. Roy Thompson Hall seems to be used a lot for the UN HQ or something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Thomson_Hall
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: brilligtove on February 08, 2017, 12:00:13 PM
Filmed in Toronto, this show. Roy Thompson Hall seems to be used a lot for the UN HQ or something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Thomson_Hall

I thought I saw the ballet in there too.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: SkeptiQueer on April 13, 2018, 11:33:43 AM
Oh my God why didn't someone tell me it was Philip K Dick Noir had a baby with every good submarine movie!?!?!
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: SnarlPatrick on April 15, 2018, 07:55:11 AM
I've watched the first season. I thought it was good, but still not the A quality of Altered Carbon or Black Mirror or Game of Thrones, that I referenced in the Best TV thread. But I very much like how they presented modern economic arguments in a distant future... the emphasis on bone loss was very compelling... the Portuguese tinged patois is great, although it seems cribbed from Speaker of the Dead. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_for_the_Dead)

But still... it's got some silly looking Star Trek style "Aliens" and some distinctly B quality actors... which is not to say I can't enjoy it... I'll certainly watch the second season. I just don't put it in the top top tier.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: 2397 on May 13, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
Cancelled.

https://deadline.com/2018/05/the-expanse-canceled-syfy-after-three-seasons-to-be-shopped-1202388026/

Hopefully all new sci-fi shows avoid Syfy from now on.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: PANTS! on May 13, 2018, 12:31:42 PM
Cancelled.

https://deadline.com/2018/05/the-expanse-canceled-syfy-after-three-seasons-to-be-shopped-1202388026/

Hopefully all new sci-fi shows avoid Syfy from now on.

Well that's a damn shame - this season is intense.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on May 13, 2018, 01:04:51 PM
Great, this should free up SyFy's budget for more reality television.

(I want to die)
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: ArtistCeleste on May 13, 2018, 05:14:40 PM
Alcon owns the rights to this show and is trying to shop it to other networks. Right now Amazon is the best bet. You can send a message to Amazon streaming and ask them to pick it up.

Personally is one is the best Sci Fis I have seen. It's the smartest show on TV. I love their commitment to physics and plausible technology from Earth. I find out that I absolutely love hard sci fi. I love the subtle details of this show. I will be very disappointed if it is canceled.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: mindme on May 14, 2018, 08:28:12 AM
The Expanse is one of the best sci fi shows since BSG. Sad.

Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: SnarlPatrick on May 14, 2018, 07:39:05 PM
The second season was a huge improvement over the first imo. So there's going to be a third and no more? Crap.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on May 26, 2018, 01:44:15 AM
Bezos just announced that Amazon is picking up The Expanse! (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/8m7o4g/jeff_bezos_just_announced_that_they_are_picking/)
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: PANTS! on May 26, 2018, 02:06:25 AM
Bezos just announced that Amazon is picking up The Expanse! (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/8m7o4g/jeff_bezos_just_announced_that_they_are_picking/)
Awesome.  And a smart move on his part.

EDIT: Hoo boy, I appreciate what Amazon did, but people need to come up off of Bezos' junk. The praise he is getting for this is unseemly.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on May 26, 2018, 04:00:42 AM
Bezos just announced that Amazon is picking up The Expanse! (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/8m7o4g/jeff_bezos_just_announced_that_they_are_picking/)
Awesome.  And a smart move on his part,

Seriously.  I just don't understand Syfy.  They seem to have no connection to their viewers at all.  If one channel should be a safe place for quality sci-fi that a viewership as high as mainstream shows like NCIS or something, it should be Syfy.  I mean, I can't imagine they were losing money on the Expanse.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Soldier of FORTRAN on May 26, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
I am feeling very positive toward Jeff Bezos and Amazon right now. 

Also, I read that it was profitable but not as profitable as their usual crap.  It has to do with SyFy only making money off live airings and who watches live. 

More programming like this and maybe their fan base will improve a little, though?  But who cares.  Cable needs to cease to exist.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: PANTS! on May 26, 2018, 12:48:17 PM
Careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: The Latinist on August 27, 2018, 12:34:57 PM
I just started watching this like a week ago and have already finished the first two seasons.  Never read the books, so I’m coming at it fresh, and it’s among my favorite SciFi shows.  I find the belters fascinating, love the political machinations, and enjoy how hard they keep the sci-fi (with allowances for the big mystery, of course). The idea of a Mormon exodus is fascinating.  I loved the character of Miller, in the first season especially, and
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That said, I haven’t seen S3 because SyFi only streams the last five episodes.  I’ll wait for it to come to Amazon Prime, I guess.  I’m glad Amazon picked it up.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Belgarath on August 27, 2018, 03:38:15 PM
  I loved the character of Miller, in the first season especially, and I think the show will suffer from his loss.


No Spoilers! 
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: The Latinist on August 27, 2018, 04:17:29 PM
No Spoilers!

Sorry, I usually assume info from previous seasons is okay.  I’ve edited, and would appreciate if you edited your quote.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: PANTS! on August 27, 2018, 05:00:29 PM
I think he may have been pulling your leg. There's no such thing as spoilers from 3 years ago.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Belgarath on August 27, 2018, 06:26:22 PM
No Spoilers!

Sorry, I usually assume info from previous seasons is okay.  I’ve edited, and would appreciate if you edited your quote.


Sorry Lat

What I wrote was confusing. 

I was commenting/ stating that what you wrote made me laugh because of Season 3 and season 4!

It wasn’t meant to be a dig or a criticism of what you posted.  It was more of a ‘wait till you see season 3 I’ll try to hold my tongue!’
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: The Latinist on August 27, 2018, 07:44:49 PM
Oh, I don’t imagine Miller’s gone for good.  But I doubt he’ll serve anything like the function he did in S1-2.  In S1, at least, he’s the relatable Everyman character through whom we experience much of the action.  Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt he’ll ever be that again.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: PANTS! on August 27, 2018, 09:36:04 PM
Oh, I don’t imagine Miller’s gone for good.  But I doubt he’ll serve anything like the function he did in S1-2.  In S1, at least, he’s the relatable Everyman character through whom we experience much of the action.  Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt he’ll ever be that again.

Weeeeellllll.   >:D

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Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Ah.hell on August 28, 2018, 09:50:11 AM
Regarding miller
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Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Eternally Learning on August 30, 2018, 07:27:08 AM
I'm of the opinion that more Thomas Jane is always a good thing.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: The Latinist on September 03, 2018, 11:48:48 AM
Oh, I don’t imagine Miller’s gone for good.  But I doubt he’ll serve anything like the function he did in S1-2.  In S1, at least, he’s the relatable Everyman character through whom we experience much of the action.  Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt he’ll ever be that again.

Weeeeellllll.   >:D

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Having now watched the third season, I stand by my analysis.

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Overall, it remains an excellent show and one of the hardest sci-fi efforts I’ve seen.  I’m glad that Amazon has picked it up, but I fear that in the coming season it will veer farther afield from the system whose politics and culture I’ve come to love.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: 2397 on September 05, 2018, 10:04:08 AM
Overall a great show. From a hard sci-fi angle, I was a bit disappointed with how things developed towards the middle, but that feeling went away following the rest of the story. And the general idea that's revealed in season 3 of

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Might've had more to say if I was writing down my comments for each episode, but for season 3 episode 13:

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Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Tatyana on September 05, 2018, 07:09:32 PM
Oh, I don’t imagine Miller’s gone for good.  But I doubt he’ll serve anything like the function he did in S1-2.  In S1, at least, he’s the relatable Everyman character through whom we experience much of the action.  Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt he’ll ever be that again.

With the exception of Holden, all of the crew of the Rocinante are more of the everyday person, IMHO. Miller is more of the the mentor/martyr archetype to assist the hero, Holden.
Title: Re: The Expanse - Syfy/Space
Post by: Ah.hell on September 06, 2018, 09:24:39 AM
Never really liked Holden, always seemed like a self righteous douchebag.  Miller was much more flawed.