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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2007, 09:11:03 PM »
Lexx really is like porn minus the sex.  And it seems like every time the characters have to come up with a plan, they pick the dumbest possible course.

Here we have the pioneer of the beehive mullet:


And this charming mongaloid only refers to herself in the third person, wears a suit made out of human skin, and referred to a brain as "think meat":


I'm not sure what this is, but it's an actual Lexx scene:


Here's Barry Bostwick in his red jeweled battleshorts:


Just when I thought there wouldn't be penis tentacles, guess what:


He actually said, "ARM STINGERS!" before that thing curled forward:


Yeah, Japanese spaceships give me claustraphobia too.  The seat just doesn't go back far enough:


Here's the pilot of Lexx and the crew's token robot.  I'll let you figure out which is which:


This show ran 4 seasons.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2007, 11:42:17 PM »
Interesting, as I thought Farscape was fairly good.  Lots of subtle humor.  And of course, if you approach Lexx seriously you will be disappointed.

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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2007, 02:29:27 PM »
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I was on my feet and wide-eyed when the Galactica was falling from orbit while it launched fighters.  The moment it jumped out I just screamed, "YYYYEEAHHH!!!".


That was without a doubt the single BEST scene in TV sci/fi ever.  And not by a close margin.

It's one of those things you as a viewer find yourself thinking "why don't they just..." but they never do it, or give a reason why they don't do something so obvious.  Jumping a Battlestar into planetary free fall, chucking out vipers, then jumping back into space the instant before impact though...THAT caught me totally by surprise.

I'm a pretty jaded sci/fi fan, and if a show can come up with something creative enough to make me say "whoa..." that's something.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2007, 04:18:57 PM »
Battle star is my hands down all time favorite.  It is one of the only examples where not only is the re imagining better than the original, it actually blows the original out of the water.

The scifi channel actually did worth while versions of the first two Dune books.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2007, 04:25:23 PM »
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I was on my feet and wide-eyed when the Galactica was falling from orbit while it launched fighters.  The moment it jumped out I just screamed, "YYYYEEAHHH!!!".


That was without a doubt the single BEST scene in TV sci/fi ever.  And not by a close margin.

It's one of those things you as a viewer find yourself thinking "why don't they just..." but they never do it, or give a reason why they don't do something so obvious.  Jumping a Battlestar into planetary free fall, chucking out vipers, then jumping back into space the instant before impact though...THAT caught me totally by surprise.

I'm a pretty jaded sci/fi fan, and if a show can come up with something creative enough to make me say "whoa..." that's something.


Damn, that was a cool scene.

But really there are a great many wonderful scenes in that series.  I thought Baltar and (imaginary?) Caprica were great fun, and then when they showed us that Caprica also hallucinated Baltar I almost died laughing.

And hey, BG proves that you can have a great show and your softcore porn too.

And the dynamic between Apollo and Starbuck, awesome.

The president and Adama.  I mean who ever did the casting for that show deserves some awards.

The special effects, the casting, the plot, the writing....
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2007, 04:26:07 PM »
The Twilight Zone.

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2007, 04:42:14 PM »
I loved the Caprica / Baltar role reversal.  In Caprica's head Baltar was self-assured, strong-willed, everything she believed him to be.  It's just like you idealize someone when you're in love.

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2007, 04:48:58 PM »
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I loved the Caprica / Baltar role reversal.  In Caprica's head Baltar was self-assured, strong-willed, everything she believed him to be.  It's just like you idealize someone when you're in love.


The writers are sooooo twisted.  Remeber how Caprica was sexing Baltar up to help him get through Xena's torture session?

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2007, 06:55:23 PM »
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I also think Lost is pretty well written scifi.

I'm confused as to what "scifi" is ... I can see that scifi doesn't have to be set in space (eg Eureka and I guess Lost), so am I right to think that Heroes is "fantasy" not scifi?  Heroes is very cool.  But for something to be scifi, are we talking about advanced science, but not powers or magic (eg Harry Potter)?

These are my top two favourite scifi series:
Babylon 5
Battlestar Galactica (new series, didn't like the old)

Red Dwarf and Firefly are pretty cool too.

But I'm not much of a trekkie ... I like startrek, but wont go out of my way to see it.  Same for stargate - I'll watch it be it wont bother me if I miss it.  Never got into Farscape or Lexx etc.

One that hasn't been mentioned is "Blake's 7" ... I grew up on that, and at the time it was just the best of the best (looks a bit corny now).

I wasn't sure about the new Dr Who series, but now I'm hooked.  The second season is better than the first.  The final double episode of series 2 made me cry for a long time.  How can scifi be so emotional?  It was a fantastic finish, very powerful.  The whole season led up to it (so don't just watch the last double episode).

Because of the new Dr Who, I'm watching "Torchwood" which is a spinoff, set in Whales.  I like it ... it's quite different, but definitely not for children (too much shagging and suicide etc).
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2007, 07:09:10 PM »
I enjoyed Farscape and I LOVED the Lexx movies. I only watched a few episodes of the Lexx TV series, so I can't really comment on that.

Other Sci-Fi series that I really enjoyed were the short-lived Space: Above and Beyond, and the old War of the Worlds series from the late 80s.
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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2007, 07:09:30 PM »
B5 definitely had it's merits, but its quality was variable.  It had moments that were just as bad as some of the stinkers mentioned above.

Stargate was ok, but I never saw a startgate episode that made me cheer.

When I was little I used to watch a cartoon called Robotech.  It was Japanamation.  I might not like it if I watched it now, but at the time it was wonderful.  It had a real plot line, people died in the combat scenes.  There was inter racial relationships (as a 12 year old mixed kid that was nice to see).  It was what I would call a real space opera.

I'm sure it is very dated by now.
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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2007, 07:12:14 PM »
God, Buck Rogers is horrible, but I LOVED it as a kid.
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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2007, 07:53:13 PM »
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One that hasn't been mentioned is "Blake's 7" ... I grew up on that, and at the time it was just the best of the best (looks a bit corny now).

Agree that it really was good, though as you say, it looks kinda sad now. I modernised sequel of some kind, set in the same universe (which is endlessly rumoured) would be truly glorious.
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2007, 08:09:50 PM »
I didn't like Space: Above and Beyond because the scenery was always so stark.  Even with Galactica they spend a third or more of most episodes on planets and, aside from the Galactica, most of the civvie ships aren't just iron tunnels.  Some asthetics.

Remember Earth 2?  Goofy.  Sort of a neat concept, but basically just a repackaged Lost in Space plot.  When it started getting into dreams and telepathy and crap I lost interest.  Besides, an alien planet that is basically Minnesota just didn't work for me.

I love Red Dwarf because it was my first SciFi.  My mom watched it when I was young and I totally got into it.  I love the idea of a ship that is a ball of garbage, and the brittish factor is just great.

I don't really think of Dr. Who as scifi I guess, even though it clearly is.  It's deffinately something that I go far out of my way to watch.  In fact, I think I have about 15 gigs of old episodes on my HD.

I also wasn't much of a trekkie.  I like the episodes, but the world just isn't right.  Bunch of space commies.  Some of the themes are cool.
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2007, 11:37:21 PM »
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It remains forever spoiled for me, having grown up with the old Doctors.


I've always been fond of the classic Tom Baker Doctor Who episodes. They don't really take themselves seriously, which I found refreshing. Not surprisingly, some of them were written by Douglas Adams. And Romana...wow! She could copilot my Tardis anytime.

BTW, skeptics take note that Romana was played by Lalla Ward, who is married to Richard Dawkins. No kidding! Douglas Adams introduced them! And Lalla was previously married to Tom Baker.
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